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FondestMemory
02/20/07, 10:06 AM
of the seven new coaches going into next season, who initially seems like the one who will be most successful? least successful? granted, there's still the draft and free agency, but as of now, who's more likely to do what?

here's mine, in order of most successful to least:

1. mike tomlin - steelers
he's taking over a damn good team. they ended the season 6-2 and have every starter under contract from last season. he still has a great defense and coordinator, and the offense isn't changing. last year's 2-6 start was a fluke.

2. wade phillips - cowboys
he gets a lot of shit as a head coach, but his stint in buffalo wasn't horrible. he knows defense and has a lot of tools to work with. the biggest question mark is how successful his offense will be under a first time playcaller and a qb who clearly needs a lot of work. i think phillips is coming into this job with a lot to prove, and it's not a bad team he's taking over to do that with.

3. norv turner - chargers
he's only this high due to the talent on this team. norv's failed in two stints as a head coach. even if you want to discount his brief stint with the raiders, he proved he can't really cut it in washington. he is a great offensive playcaller, but lacks the fire and motivational tools to get teams to pour their heart out for him. he very well may end up with the best record of the new coaches, but i'm convinced that by the time he's done with this team their record won't be nearly as good as it should be.

4. ken whisenhunt - cardinals
i'd like to put him higher up on the list just because i think he's going to be a great head coach and he's put together a great staff, but the talent and ownership won't allow me to do that. i think they'll be fine on offense. they're two or three pieces on the line away from being extremely balanced and dangerous. sadly, two or three pieces of a five piece unit isn't fixable overnight. the defense also leaves a lot of questions, but is closer to being fixed than the o-line. the biggest question mark though is whether or not ownership will get out of the way for the first time ever and allow this team to succeed. if this were a long term question and not just next season, i'd have whisenhunt tied for first with tomlin.

5. bobby petrino - falcons
i wasn't a big fan of this hire at all. i didn't understand a passing oriented college coach taking over a team that's near playoff caliber with michael vick as qb. but vick is under more pressure now than ever, he knows if he doesn't finally step up and perform consistently, that it'll be him on his way out this time and not the coach. he also has a history of designing an offense to get the most out of a mobile left hander after stefan lefors at louisville. not to mention he has a great defensive coordinator who is on the verge of being one of the most sought after assistants.

6. lane kiffin - raiders
big doubts about this guy. seems too timid and almost like a deer in headlights. how he'll get a hardnose team like the raiders to follow him remains to be seen. the only reason he's not last on this list is because of the quality defense he has going for him. that's a playoff quality defense. that works in his favor since he's an offensive mind and can concentrate on putting an offense that can actually score touchdowns on the field. getting some consistency out of a quarterback and the o-line will turn this team quickly from laughing stock to legit.

7. cam cameron - dolphins
poor guy's taking over the worst situation by far. the strongest point of this team is their defensive front seven, but they're getting old. there are a shit ton of free agents that need signed. the running game has a solid feature back, but he needs a complement. the secondary is god awful. and that's not even getting to the cluster fuck of a situation quarterback turned into for them. saban somehow left this team far worse off than he inherited it, and poor cam is the guy stuck trying to clean it up. i don't see it ending well for him.

fluke182
02/20/07, 10:11 AM
I'm going to go ahead and disagree with Cam Cameron going into the worst situation. Ronnie Brown, with Ricky Williams back to support him, Chris Chambers, Marty Booker, and Wes Welker at wideout, plus a very decent tight end in Randy McMichael. Their offensive problems lie in the offensive line and QB, but maybe if Culpepper gets 100% they could him back in action - so long as he has time to throw the ball. Their D is extremely solid an opportunistic, and if they sign Nate Clements like I've heard they might they get a ballhawk they really need.

I'd have to put him above Lane Kiffin and Bobby Petrino at least, I mean - it's the Raiders and for the Falcons, Petrino already said he is going to kill their zone blocking scheme, which is the one reason they were incredible at running to begin with.

livethesounds
02/20/07, 01:29 PM
i pretty much agree with all of that. Although I think Norv Turner could surprise people.

xbrokendownx
02/20/07, 03:51 PM
saying the dolphins are in a worse situation than the raiders is crazy talk

bigmike
02/20/07, 04:51 PM
Mike Tomlin's in the best situation and poised for the most success right away, IMO.

Scott Weber
02/20/07, 05:03 PM
I have said this, and will say it again - Oakland is a QB and 2 offensive playmakers away from going 8-8 next year. That defense is stellar, and if they had any confidence to protect a lead, they could dominate.

xbrokendownx
02/20/07, 05:04 PM
I have said this, and will say it again - Oakland is a QB and 2 offensive playmakers away from going 8-8 next year. That defense is stellar, and if they had any confidence to protect a lead, they could dominate.






miami is a QB away from going 8-8, so him putting oakland above Miami really doesnt make sense

Scott Weber
02/20/07, 05:34 PM
miami is a QB away from going 8-8, so him putting oakland above Miami really doesnt make sense
did you even read his reasons why? miami has soooo much uncertainty in the off-season. you can't say that when you have no idea who's going to return.

xbrokendownx
02/20/07, 05:41 PM
we have an assload of cap space....i am not worried

FondestMemory
02/20/07, 05:41 PM
I have said this, and will say it again - Oakland is a QB and 2 offensive playmakers away from going 8-8 next year. That defense is stellar, and if they had any confidence to protect a lead, they could dominate.

i'd even say they're just a qb away from that mark. lamont jordan, randy moss and jerry porter are all still more than capable of making plays.

Scott Weber
02/20/07, 05:42 PM
i'd even say they're just a qb away from that mark. lamont jordan, randy moss and jerry porter are all still more than capable of making plays.
Well, I'm assuming Moss and Porter are gone.

Drew Beringer
02/20/07, 05:47 PM
I'm gonna laugh when Turner fucks up San Diego.

xbrokendownx
02/20/07, 05:52 PM
yeah fuck norv turner

fromwithin
02/20/07, 09:50 PM
it's a known fact tomlin has the best situation considering the steelers are two years since winning the super bowl and have the same team except for a few minor positions like bettis and randle el. I think the raiders continue to be the worst situation just because of al davis, no one will be able to succeed for a long time there.

FondestMemory
02/21/07, 03:57 PM
Well, I'm assuming Moss and Porter are gone.

possibly. i think porter's sticking around though. he's changing his number from 84 to 81 in an effort to 'start over.' he seems content staying in oakland and giving it another try with a fresh start under kiffin. whether the raiders want to keep him is another thing though.

i'd like to see moss dealt to green bay, but i have a feeling he won't go anywhere and that they'll be able to sell him on the potential of the team after keeping the number one pick.

zizou1790
02/21/07, 07:46 PM
steelers are losing their pro-bowl center Hartings due to retirement but yeah i can agree with most of this i would flip 6 and 7 though, also i see Turner having some immeadiate success as he inherits a good team but really that was a bad hiring

FondestMemory
02/21/07, 08:04 PM
steelers are losing their pro-bowl center Hartings due to retirement but yeah i can agree with most of this i would flip 6 and 7 though, also i see Turner having some immeadiate success as he inherits a good team but really that was a bad hiring

okobi will be fine at center though. losing hartings sucks, but it's not like they're immediately starting over. chukky's played well when given the chance. he won't be a pro bowler more than likely, but he'll get the job done.