what the hell is emo? [Archive]

UNcreative86

07/26/03, 04:44 AM

Originally posted by steverocks33
its a term used to describe people who cant get laid and choose to spend their lives whining about it

you forgot to mention all the crying that's involved. you can''t just whine about how pathetic you are, tears must be shed.

stratdude

07/26/03, 05:19 AM

Originally posted by GoFFick-RAR
[COLOR=deeppink]Okay.....Im going to do it...Im going to make a complete dork of myself....what is emo? Im more of a metal girlie myself so I er woulden´t kno......:confused:

emo is that voice inside of your head that tells you not to listen to limp bizkit or disturbed.

dreamareality

07/26/03, 05:29 AM

emo has emotional lyrics. emo=emotional

**michelleV**

07/26/03, 06:35 AM

richter915

07/26/03, 06:35 AM

emo is garbage...not the band garbage...but it's terrible. Involves guys, losing their girls, or not getting the girl, and then crying...whining...bitching...and crying some more. Since you're more into metal, screamo might be your thing. It's more..."aggressive" let's say. The lyrics are a little more intense. It has the same basis as emo, stupid heartbreak, but instead of crying, you slit your wrists. It also has a little harder sound than emo.

torch

07/26/03, 06:53 AM

Someone delete this, because SOMEONE didn't read the forum guidelines.

ReFuSeD!

07/26/03, 06:55 AM

Whoever came up with the name emo should be shot. ALL GOOD music should be emotional, not some whiney ass group that cries about girls.

ifeelused

07/26/03, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by randy
saves the day, senses fail, hidden in plain view etc= thats all i got to say

they're all emo

senses fail is emo?

kidinthecorner

07/26/03, 07:05 AM

Originally posted by ReFuSeD!
Whoever came up with the name emo should be shot. ALL GOOD music should be emotional, not some whiney ass group that cries about girls. Werd homie.

Greg

07/26/03, 07:08 AM

i am emo...

Seanmo

07/26/03, 07:15 AM

I'm emo to the max, son.

And...that makes me kind of....sad....*tear*

kenner

07/26/03, 07:52 AM

emo is senses fail.

Ridd

07/26/03, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by ReFuSeD!
Whoever came up with the name emo should be shot. ALL GOOD music should be emotional, not some whiney ass group that cries about girls.

Most of the shitty "empty v punk" around today just write lyrics about there girls n stuff. but this "punk music" is canny crappy bands like Good charlotte etc. aint as good as some emo stuff.

ifeelused

07/26/03, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by kenner
emo is senses fail.

haha

worldstheory

07/26/03, 09:14 AM

I'm glad no one's mentioned Dashboard yet. Dashboard is not true emo. It has the emo mood, but it lacks the musical style of real emo. Actually, from what I've heard of the upcoming album, their style is beginning to bring itself into true emo. But classic Dashboard is NOT emo. Classic Dashboard is unclassifiable. The best description I could come up with would be Sad Acoustic Alternative Pop.

Some good examples of real true emo are The Get Up Kids and The Early November.

Some people have mentioned Saves the Day, and I know that many consider this band to be emo, but I disagree. Saves the Day is pop-punk.

Some bands that many don't consider to be emo but (by my definition) ARE emo are Senses Fail (as mentioned above) and --- get this --- Finch.

ms y o o n

07/26/03, 09:19 AM

emo is supposedly this sad sad boy who cant get any girls and they write songs to it with their accoustic guitars

but if you really pay attention.. every band is emo!
ah i dont know what im saying. just.. its emotional tsuff

worldstheory

07/26/03, 09:22 AM

Everyone keeps saying emo is about guys who can't get girls. I have no idea what you guys are talking about. Most emo songs are about being in love, or having been in love and fallen out of it. People who can't get girls don't sing about these things.

kevin

07/26/03, 02:22 PM

Stop trying to define emo. Really, it gets old.

earlynovemberX

07/26/03, 02:51 PM

funny that the bright eyes fan ends the thread. :)

contraaaast and compaaaa ia aia re.

AFittingLie

07/26/03, 08:09 PM

HAHAHAHA

I thought someone on this board would be smart. Guess I was wrong. Everything posted so far has been wrong.

All that Finch, Senses Fail, Thursday, etc. stuff is not emo and has nothing to do with emo. Jesus christ...

proeuthanasia

07/26/03, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by AFittingLie
HAHAHAHA

I thought someone on this board would be smart. Guess I was wrong. Everything posted so far has been wrong.

All that Finch, Senses Fail, Thursday, etc. stuff is not emo and has nothing to do with emo. Jesus christ...

i agree. infact, i think that the whole meaning..and even concept..of emo gets hidden, or smothered rather, beneath the music of bands categorized with the likes of finch, senses fail, and thursday. and that's the very reason why. emo can't truly be categorized. it's all the music policing internet fucks that have to slap a label on every goddamn sound they come into contact with that make questions like 'what is emo' even come up. if i had to give an example of an emo band, however, i'd probably stick with brand new. they're sound is different from all the other sounds being produced out there, and the lyrics are emotionally interwoven with experience, firsthand heartfeltness (if that's a word), and genius. despite all the kids out there who hate brand new for one reason or another, pretty much everyone has to admit that their lyrics are far from gradeschool quality. all in all, emo stands for emotional. draw your own conclusions.

AFittingLie

07/26/03, 08:28 PM

No, emo is actually about a 19 year old genre, and the word's been used since 1987 or so. It stands for emotional hardcore, since emo grew straight from the hardcore scene. Brand New is not an emo band. They're pop-punk. Not all pop-punk has to sound like Blink 182 remember. They're still a pop-punk band.

proeuthanasia

07/26/03, 08:30 PM

state your opinion. it is the opinion of most. fine with me, think what you want.

papathomas

07/26/03, 08:32 PM

Emo is just a way to classify music.

AFittingLie

07/26/03, 08:32 PM

We're not talking about opinions, we're talking about facts. Rites Of Spring formed in 1984 and at either a RoS concert or Embrace concert, some crazy fan yelled out "emo" to describe the sound. It's just stuck since then. Any true emo fan will tell you the word doesn't stand for emotional. That's just silly, since mostly all music would be emo. It's a sub-genre of hardcore with a distinct sound and history, and none of it includes bands like Brand New.

sigh

07/26/03, 09:39 PM

seans krazy fact of the day: if u rearrange the letters of emo kids, you get moe! wow thats krazy!

ifeelused

08/05/03, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by randy
yeah go to www.mp3.com/sensesfail and check out the genre next to each song and you will see genre "emo" :)

that doesnt mean much

BrandNewRock05

08/05/03, 08:12 AM

from dictionary.com

emo (n)- short for emotional, used to describe feeling sorry for yourself, form of self pity, see Greg

ifeelused

08/05/03, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
from dictionary.com

emo (n)- short for emotional, used to describe feeling sorry for yourself, form of self pity, see Greg

did you come up with that yourself silly!?

BrandNewRock05

08/05/03, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by ifeelused
did you come up with that yourself silly!?
yeah, i tried to find it on dictionary.com, but emo is a word finder or something, like a spell checker, so i made up a def

ifeelused

08/05/03, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
yeah, i tried to find it on dictionary.com, but emo is a word finder or something, like a spell checker, so i made up a def

well i'd say thats a pretty good definition

BrandNewRock05

08/05/03, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by ifeelused
well i'd say thats a pretty good definition
well thank you, i was going to put it in my sig, but its not cool to put your own quotes in your own sig, stupid unwritten laws

HIPVTENTSL

08/05/03, 08:48 AM

i like emo...look at my username, it screams emo

omegaX

08/05/03, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by ReFuSeD!
Whoever came up with the name emo should be shot. ALL GOOD music should be emotional, not some whiney ass group that cries about girls.

nud0

08/05/03, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by ReFuSeD!
Whoever came up with the name emo should be shot. ALL GOOD music should be emotional, not some whiney ass group that cries about girls.

Well SOME of us do like girls and like songs that teenagers (like me) who can relate to. It get's boring hearing about politics, weird things, or death from any hardcore punk band or metal band out there.

omgomgjamison!!

08/05/03, 11:14 AM

emotional hardcore

the end

AFittingLie

08/05/03, 01:21 PM

No, some of you may think you like emo, but you don't. Just remember that and remove the word from your vocabulary.

rockoutwcockout

08/05/03, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by worldstheory
I'm glad no one's mentioned Dashboard yet. Dashboard is not true emo. It has the emo mood, but it lacks the musical style of real emo. Actually, from what I've heard of the upcoming album, their style is beginning to bring itself into true emo. But classic Dashboard is NOT emo. Classic Dashboard is unclassifiable. The best description I could come up with would be Sad Acoustic Alternative Pop.

Some good examples of real true emo are The Get Up Kids and The Early November.

Some people have mentioned Saves the Day, and I know that many consider this band to be emo, but I disagree. Saves the Day is pop-punk.

Some bands that many don't consider to be emo but (by my definition) ARE emo are Senses Fail (as mentioned above) and --- get this --- Finch.

you act like you've cured cancer or something...no shit finch is "emo"? gee, couldn't tell.

lollirot

08/05/03, 01:38 PM

Emo is emotional hardcore. Think Rites of Spring. Fugazi.

That's what I think, anyways.

AFittingLie

08/05/03, 01:40 PM

Finch has nothing to do with emo. They are a pop-punk band that mixes hardcore into their sound. They are not emo.

Fugazi is not emo. They're post hardcore. Rites Of Spring and Embrace are emo.

rockoutwcockout

08/05/03, 01:46 PM

i can't believe the depths of all these labels...how can anything be post(insert genre of music here) when that genre is still going? i mean what happened to rock, pop, rap, classical, country, jazz, etc?

Absolute Mest

08/05/03, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by rockoutwcockout
i can't believe the depths of all these labels...how can anything be post(insert genre of music here) when that genre is still going? i mean what happened to rock, pop, rap, classical, country, jazz, etc?

new sounds are created, people get likings to a certain sound and pretty much starts it's own genre.

as for this emo crapp. emo stands for EMOTIONAL HARDCORE.... Dashboard is NOT emo, nor is Finch (the fucker that said that needs to be shot in the foot), Thursday isn't emo, neither is Senses Fail (Despite what MP3.com says). Saves the Day is no way emo and The Early November is definetly not emo. You guys have all been categorizing your pop-punk bands as emo. Emo isn't fairly new, the only person here who knows his emo stuff would be AFittingLine.... congrats bro

rockoutwcockout

08/05/03, 02:09 PM

your scene points can be redeemed for cool prizes

StartingLine182

08/05/03, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by rockoutwcockout
your scene points can be redeemed for cool prizes

Nice name, Stifler rules.

AFittingLie

08/05/03, 02:43 PM

Sometimes genres die out a little, and a new sound emerges and people attach the "post" to it. Listen to Fugazi's old stuff. Do they sound like Minor Threat or any of that other tough guy or sXe 80's hardcore to you? No, they were doing something different. They are a forefather of post hardcore. There's also post rock (Mogwai, Godspeed You! Black Emepror, Sigur Ros, etc.). I don't know how that genre title came to be, but it is accepted to call those bands it. And there's post-emo indie rock. There was a time in the mid 90's where emo basically died, and a new sound was happening. That's what Sunny Day Real Estate was for their first two albums. They were never an emo band. They were an indie rock band that took minor influences from emo. Mineral is also a post-emo indie rock, and my favorite one.

kevin

08/05/03, 03:53 PM

I just bought the new Mogwai album. I don't know what to think of it yet. I guess I need to just listen to it some more.

Ronin

08/05/03, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by kevin
I just bought the new Mogwai album. I don't know what to think of it yet. I guess I need to just listen to it some more.

Kevin, you saved an unsalvageable thread

I didn't like the new Mogwai at first, but I'm coming around (I think)

People who need to have things labelled are anal retentive. When you can do a scientific experiment that shows a band to be "emo", then I will listen to your definition. Otherwise, I don't give a flying fuck what you say.

AFittingLie

08/05/03, 04:09 PM

You sir, are a moron. Emo is emotional hardcore. What else is there to say? I'm sure you use terms like metal, rock, and punk, so I don't see why you're complaining about emo.

Ronin

08/05/03, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by AFittingLie
You sir, are a moron. Emo is emotional hardcore. What else is there to say? I'm sure you use terms like metal, rock, and punk, so I don't see why you're complaining about emo.

I tend to call it "music"

Honestly, I could give a fuck about titles. I don't even know the names of half the songs I listen to, just the track numbers.

Call me a moron if you want, but I listen to pretty much every band you've talked about, so it would reflect poorly on yourself.

kevin

08/05/03, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by Ronin
Honestly, I could give a fuck about titles. I don't even know the names of half the songs I listen to, just the track numbers.

I'm the same way. Unless it's my favorite album or something, I don't know most of the titles.

AFittingLie

08/05/03, 04:17 PM

I listen to like 2000 bands. I doubt you would know many of them. And that 2000 is full of many different bands, so I have to use genres to have some organization or else it'd be a complete mess. Fine if you don't want to use genres, but don't diss on them because you don't understand them.

kevin

08/05/03, 04:18 PM

2000 bands? Crazy. How many cd's do you have? 5,000?

Ronin

08/05/03, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by AFittingLie
I listen to like 2000 bands. I doubt you would know many of them. And that 2000 is full of many different bands, so I have to use genres to have some organization or else it'd be a complete mess. Fine if you don't want to use genres, but don't diss on them because you don't understand them.

Who did I diss? What don't I understand?

I have honestly never seen someone try so hard to be elite. Honestly, it's pretty damn funny.

AFittingLie

08/05/03, 04:22 PM

I wish. About 800, and 1000 on my want list.

AFittingLie

08/05/03, 04:23 PM

You act like emo doesn't exist when it actually does and has since 1984.

Ronin

08/05/03, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by AFittingLie
You act like emo doesn't exist when it actually does and has since 1984.

I didn't say that it doesn't exist, I said I don't care.

So when it gave birth to emo, did the hardcore scene have to undergo a c-section? Was it a difficult birth? I understand that there are often complications after giving birth to a music scene. How long did it take the hardcore scene to recover after it left the hospital? How much did emo weigh when it was born?

I was 2 years old when emo was born, I wonder if it graduated in 2002....

AFittingLie

08/05/03, 04:27 PM

If you don't care then don't talk about. And you're also not funny.

Ronin

08/05/03, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by AFittingLie
If you don't care then don't talk about. And you're also not funny.

Damn kid, you're the ultimate authority on everything....

So I've been thinking about microwaving some food, but I can't decide between the sketchy looking salisbury steak, and the sketchy looking "meatloaf"

Since you have all of the answers, care to enligten me?

And I'll talk about whatever the hell I want to talk about. How exactly would you stop me?

devin

08/05/03, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by AFittingLie
If you don't care then don't talk about. And you're also not funny.

Dude, I like you, but don't fuck with Colin. I don't mean that in a "he'll kick your ass" way, because only a tool would get that pissed over some message board bickering. I mean it in a "he's way cooler than you even realize and will someday feel foolish for not loving him" way,

AFittingLie

08/05/03, 04:34 PM

I'm not here to make friends. I come here to post about bands when a decent band actually gets mentioned. And I'm here to try and explain what emo is (but moreso for this board) and isn't. Don't want to use genres or talk about them, then you can find another thread.

devin

08/05/03, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by AFittingLie
I'm not here to make friends. I come here to post about bands when a decent band actually gets mentioned. And I'm here to try and explain what emo is (but moreso for this board) and isn't. Don't want to use genres or talk about them, then you can find another thread.

Oh man, I was like you once too. I don't know how many paragraphs of mine went over the heads of board members. I probably posted in at least 10 "What is emo?" threads. Each time, I thought that I had settled the matter for the board. Within a week, the same arguments would resurface. You're knowledge is impressive, but few are willing to listen to someone with a haughty arrogance. At least, they are not willing while you are fairly new and picking fights with members that people have grown to appreciate and respect.

AFittingLie

08/05/03, 04:45 PM

I appreciate your advice, but it's really not going to work. I've been posting on internet forums for a few years and I've come across so many people that are so stupid you wouldn't believe. Being nice about everything doesn't last long after all the idiotic encounters and pages upon pages of debates/arguments.

Ronin

08/05/03, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by AFittingLie
I'm not here to make friends. I come here to post about bands when a decent band actually gets mentioned. And I'm here to try and explain what emo is (but moreso for this board) and isn't. Don't want to use genres or talk about them, then you can find another thread.

I can't tell you how much I appreciate the fact that you've come here to educate us.

We were just a rag-tag bunch of misfits in this run down forum. Nobody ever tried to get through to us, so we just stopped caring about what was "emo" and what wasn't.

But just when we had reached our lowest point, Michelle Pfeiffer...err...AFittingLie walked through the door, and taught us how to be elitist again.

::cue "Gangsta's Paradise"::

rockoutwcockout

08/05/03, 04:49 PM

i dunno...journey was pretty emo

AFittingLie

08/05/03, 04:49 PM

Elitist - trendy word of the year that any internet scum can use to throw at anyone that has some music knowledge. Yes, there's a difference between an elitist and an emo fan. Shocker huh?

rockoutwcockout

08/05/03, 04:52 PM

is there an emo for dummies book yet?

AFittingLie

08/05/03, 04:54 PM

No, I'm not finished with it yet.

devin

08/05/03, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by Ronin
I can't tell you how much I appreciate the fact that you've come here to educate us.

We were just a rag-tag bunch of misfits in this run down forum. Nobody ever tried to get through to us, so we just stopped caring about what was "emo" and what wasn't.

But just when we had reached our lowest point, Michelle Pfeiffer...err...AFittingLie walked through the door, and taught us how to be elitist again.

::cue "Gangsta's Paradise"::

Dude, you cannot claim that is not funny.

Anyway, I've been posting on message boards for years too. I generally tire of them after a period and move on. I didn't suggest that you be nice, merely that you not turn people off to your knowledge by coming across as a prick. Colin is well aware of what emo is, he's not 14. Don't make it your personal mission to educate everyone, and you'll enjoy yourself a lot more.

Ronin

08/05/03, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by AFittingLie
Elitist - trendy word of the year that any internet scum can use to throw at anyone that has some music knowledge. Yes, there's a difference between an elitist and an emo fan. Shocker huh?

You're absolutely right. I had never used the term "elitist" until I saw it on a message board. i've also never used the term unless in conjuction with a ridiculous conversation concerning emo.

devin

08/05/03, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by AFittingLie
Elitist - trendy word of the year that any internet scum can use to throw at anyone that has some music knowledge. Yes, there's a difference between an elitist and an emo fan. Shocker huh?

Cole always calls me an elitist, but I still don't see how that's not a compliment.

And the word is only trendy if you're new to the English language.

AFittingLie

08/05/03, 04:56 PM

If he knows what emo is, then how come he hasn't mentioned some emo bands yet? I never see emo band threads on here (I saw one about PMFS, but only their old stuff was emo, and hardly anyone here had heard them). I know like a few people like Saetia, and that's it.

AFittingLie

08/05/03, 04:58 PM

Trends aren't always something new. They recycle themselves a lot. And elitist is definitely a hot and trendy word people use now when usually a real emo fan says something about poseurs.

AFittingLie

08/05/03, 04:59 PM

Enough of this for now. I'm going to hit the shower and go out for a few hours.

Ronin

08/05/03, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by AFittingLie
If he knows what emo is, then how come he hasn't mentioned some emo bands yet? I never see emo band threads on here (I saw one about PMFS, but only their old stuff was emo, and hardly anyone here had heard them). I know like a few people like Saetia, and that's it.

Because this isn't a goddamn pissing contest chief.