HAHAHA what a joke

[CrenshawPunch]

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm


I will never take another word this man says seriously.

[thatwasamoment]

Eh, Gore > You

[CrenshawPunch]

Eh, Gore > You


Lol yeah right, I do more for the environment than this guys does. I have halogen light bulbs.

[thatwasamoment]

Lol yeah right, I do more for the environment than this guys does. I have halogen light bulbs.
congratulations, want an oscar?

[aminorthreat55]

What else did you expect Gore to live in? A studio apartment? A two bedroom, two and a half bath? Come on.

[CrenshawPunch]

congratulations, want an oscar?


No, its just funny. Not to you though apparently.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

although it is funny

it doesnt neccesarily make what he says any less true

[CrenshawPunch]

What else did you expect Gore to live in? A studio apartment? A two bedroom, two and a half bath? Come on.


Yeah, why the fuck not. Why doesnt he give up his money to further environmental causes? Then I would take him seriously. The biggest activists are generally the biggest hypocrites.

[CrenshawPunch]

although it is funny

it doesnt neccesarily make what he says any less true


Very true. He just not in a postition to condemn.

[DeathCabForCoon]

1.21 Gigawatts!

[thatwasamoment]

No, its just funny. Not to you though apparently.I didn't have to look it up on a website to know he lives in a mansion.

[CrenshawPunch]

I didn't have to look it up on a website to know he lives in a mansion.


Good for you buddy.

[Sleepaway]

Well, clearly he is a massive hypocrite.

[thatwasamoment]

Good for you buddy.:bow:

[splat out path]

I'm confused- does he leave all the lights on or something?

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

I'm confused- does he leave all the lights on or something?


no, it just takes a lot of energy to invent the internet and then manage it for all these years

[love_american_style]

HEY! he's very serial about these matters!

[MotionIsntMeaning]

I guess living in a mansion negates all of the positive work he's done for the environment.

[aminorthreat55]

Look if you want to make a legitimate and constructive argument against his hypocrisy, there needs to be more than just a big energy bill. Energy usage skyrockets as the size of an edifice increases, so it shouldn't be a surprise that he has a big energy bill. My church has a higher energy bill than Gore's house and it is a smaller building. The way to analyze this and create a constructive argument against his energy use would be to find the ratio of kilowatt hours used to the square-footage of his house; to see if he uses energy-efficient applicances, insulation, etc. and to compare those figures with similar-size homes. Until then, this "discovery" is basically meaningless.

[x togepi x]

Yeah, why the fuck not. Why doesnt he give up his money to further environmental causes? Then I would take him seriously. The biggest activists are generally the biggest hypocrites.

says the person typing this on a computer using the internet who probably drives a car and eats meat.

[CrenshawPunch]

says the person typing this on a computer using the internet who probably drives a car and eats meat.
Don't own a car, and I ride my bike to school everyday. I have all my life. And shit, if Im using the internet, Im only helping Al Gore. It is his invention after all.

[CrenshawPunch]

Look if you want to make a legitimate and constructive argument against his hypocrisy, there needs to be more than just a big energy bill. Energy usage skyrockets as the size of an edifice increases, so it shouldn't be a surprise that he has a big energy bill. My church has a higher energy bill than Gore's house and it is a smaller building. The way to analyze this and create a constructive argument against his energy use would be to find the ratio of kilowatt hours used to the square-footage of his house; to see if he uses energy-efficient applicances, insulation, etc. and to compare those figures with similar-size homes. Until then, this "discovery" is basically meaningless.


Here is an analysis. My 12 roommates and I occupy a house that is a fraction of Al Gore's mansion. Our energy bills each month total roughly 150 Dollars. Lets say that Al Gore's family is your basic family of four. That means each family member spends roughly 500 to 700 dollars a month powering their house compared to our 14 to 15 dollars a person.

Comparing square footage in mansions? Did you read the article? His small family burns more energy in a month than most do in an ENTRIE YEAR. What we should do is compare the amount of persons living in a home and their individual energy usage. If Al Gore had 150 people living in house then yes, this "discovery" would be meaningless. Since he does not, I find it pretty hypocritical.

[CrenshawPunch]

I guess living in a mansion negates all of the positive work he's done for the environment.


No, it doesn't. It just makes him lose all credibility.

[x togepi x]

Don't own a car, and I ride my bike to school everyday. I have all my life. And shit, if Im using the internet, Im only helping Al Gore. It is his invention after all.

i'm merely point out how stupid is to call someone a hypocrite. It doesn't at all change his position. He just doesn't follow it.

[Jason Tate]

Lol yeah right, I do more for the environment than this guys does. I have halogen light bulbs.
Drudge. Shocking.

1) Gore buys carbon offsets. 2) Tu Quoque, this doesn't discount his argument or the message.

[Jason Tate]

Don't own a car, and I ride my bike to school everyday. I have all my life. And shit, if Im using the internet, Im only helping Al Gore. It is his invention after all.
You realize he never said that -- right?

[CrenshawPunch]

You realize he never said that -- right?


You do realize its sarcasm, right?

[Jason Tate]

You do realize its sarcasm, right?
Sarcasm based on a lie? That's not sarcasm, it's ignorance.

[CrenshawPunch]

Drudge. Shocking.

1) Gore buys carbon offsets. 2) Tu Quoque, this doesn't discount his argument or the message.


Excellent term. I never said it did. I called him a hypocrite. Thats what he is. Its good so long as it doesnt apply to him.

[CrenshawPunch]

Sarcasm based on a lie? That's not sarcasm, it's ignorance.


Are you kidding me? Calling me out on a wisecrack? Come on.

[x togepi x]

it still doesn't matter. if i were to get to know you, i am sure i could find at least one instance of you being a hypocrite, which is why it's dumb to complain about it. The only time I could see it mattering is if someone is claiming they aren't a hypocrite (but even then why claim you're not?)

My point is that no matter how he lives, it doesn't make his argument any more or less true (ie: tu quoque fallacy). You can't attack one's position by attacking them because the position does not equal the person.

[CrenshawPunch]

it still doesn't matter. if i were to get to know you, i am sure i could find at least one instance of you being a hypocrite, which is why it's dumb to complain about it. The only time I could see it mattering is if someone is claiming they aren't a hypocrite (but even then why claim you're not?)

My point is that no matter how he lives, it doesn't make his argument any more or less true (ie: tu quoque fallacy). You can't attack one's position by attacking them because the position does not equal the person.


What is with you people. I never said it diminished what he did. I just said he looses credibility with me. If were reported that Bush championed some cause to which his life was contrary to, everyone here would be all over him. Its just uncomfortable to hear it on the other side.

[Jason Tate]

Are you kidding me? Calling me out on a wisecrack? Come on.
You said it as a disparaging remark toward the man -- and it's not factually correct.

[Jason Tate]

Excellent term. I never said it did. I called him a hypocrite. Thats what he is. Its good so long as it doesnt apply to him.

How does it not apply to him?

[Jason Tate]

What is with you people. I never said it diminished what he did. I just said he looses credibility with me. If were reported that Bush championed some cause to which his life was contrary to, everyone here would be all over him. Its just uncomfortable to hear it on the other side.
Yet not this "article", nor anything you've said, have shown his life to be contrary to his film.

[CrenshawPunch]

You said it as a disparaging remark toward the man -- and it's not factually correct.


Good, I will hold you to this same standard then. Im sure you have never made any such remark about your man Bill O'Reilly, Or President Bush.

[CrenshawPunch]

Yet not this "article", nor anything you've said, have shown his life to be contrary to his film.


It shows that he wastes more energy than the average American.

[Jason Tate]

Good, I will hold you to this same standard then. Im sure you have never made any such remark about your man Bill O'Reilly, Or President Bush.
Find it.

[CrenshawPunch]

How does it not apply to him?


He owns a mansion that requires 20 times the amount of energy that a normal house does.

[x togepi x]

What is with you people. I never said it diminished what he did. I just said he looses credibility with me. If were reported that Bush championed some cause to which his life was contrary to, everyone here would be all over him. Its just uncomfortable to hear it on the other side.

what exactly does credibility do?

[Jason Tate]

It shows that he wastes more energy than the average American.
He has a bigger house than the average American, that's a logical assumption I would have made without any "newsflash".

[Jason Tate]

He owns a mansion that requires 20 times the amount of energy that a normal house does.
So, because you assume he preaches energy conservation, he should live in a tent? He doesn't live in a normal house. Why would anyone expect him to?

[senatorlamb]

Gore buys carbon credits. He has stated that he pursues a personal energy strategy so that his individual carbon offset is zero.

[aminorthreat55]

Here is an analysis. My 12 roommates and I occupy a house that is a fraction of Al Gore's mansion. Our energy bills each month total roughly 150 Dollars. Lets say that Al Gore's family is your basic family of four. That means each family member spends roughly 500 to 700 dollars a month powering their house compared to our 14 to 15 dollars a person.

Comparing square footage in mansions? Did you read the article? His small family burns more energy in a month than most do in an ENTRIE YEAR. What we should do is compare the amount of persons living in a home and their individual energy usage. If Al Gore had 150 people living in house then yes, this "discovery" would be meaningless. Since he does not, I find it pretty hypocritical.
While a nice idea in principle, it is not a strong statistical measurement. The amount of electricity used in a building is more dependent on the size of the building than the number of inhabitants.

DOE Residential Energy Use (http://buildingsdatabook.eren.doe.gov/docs/1.2.3.pdf)

[CrenshawPunch]

So, because you assume he preaches energy conservation, he should live in a tent? He doesn't live in a normal house. Why would anyone expect him to?

Practicing what you preach is very important. I realize that every fucks up, including me, a lot. However Gore is preaching at a national level. For anyone to take him seriously he should lead by example. His mansion isnt doing anything for climate change. If anything, it is adding to the cause.

[CrenshawPunch]

Real change comes from personal sacrifice. Look to Ghandi, civil rights activists, and people who sacrificed everything for their cause. They sure as hell were not living in mansions. Those people deserve respect. Gore does not.

[Jason Tate]

Practicing what you preach is very important.

And how is he not?


I realize that every fucks up, including me, a lot. However Gore is preaching at a national level.

Never seen the film have you? No idea what it's about huh?

For anyone to take him seriously he should lead by example. His mansion isnt doing anything for climate change. If anything, it is adding to the cause.

So he should live in a tent? Hahaha, you are such a fucking idiot.

[aminorthreat55]

Gore buys carbon credits. He has stated that he pursues a personal energy strategy so that his individual carbon emission is zero.
Good point, I didn't even consider that.

This thread is even more pointless now.

[Jason Tate]

Real change comes from personal sacrifice. Look to Ghandi, civil rights activists, and people who sacrificed everything for their cause. They sure as hell were not living in mansions. Those people deserve respect. Gore does not.
Yeah, you're a moron - stop talking.

[x togepi x]

Practicing what you preach is very important. I realize that every fucks up, including me, a lot. However Gore is preaching at a national level. For anyone to take him seriously he should lead by example. His mansion isnt doing anything for climate change. If anything, it is adding to the cause.

people shouldn't be taking him seriously

they should take the argument seriously.

who the fuck al gore is as a person means jack shit compared to what will happen to the environment post-global warming

[CrenshawPunch]

So he should live in a tent? Hahaha, you are such a fucking idiot.


Now I am holding you to that standard which you presented earlier. You do not know me. You have never had a conversation with me, nor are you having a civil one with me right now. But you have made me happy with what you just said.

[CrenshawPunch]

Yeah, you're a moron - stop talking.


Again, thanks.

[aminorthreat55]

Practicing what you preach is very important. I realize that every fucks up, including me, a lot. However Gore is preaching at a national level. For anyone to take him seriously he should lead by example. His mansion isnt doing anything for climate change. If anything, it is adding to the cause.
Based on what senatorlamb has said, he isn't adding to the cause. We had assumed that his energy use was standard and not focused on limiting carbon emissions, which makes a huge difference. So now all that we've established here is that he spends a fuckload of money on being energy efficient, which makes this article pointless.

[Jason Tate]

Now I am holding you to that standard which you presented earlier. You do not know me. You have never had a conversation with me, nor are you having a civil one with me right now. But you have made me happy with what you just said.
"You're an idiot" is a factual statement - this thread is proof, the crack you made earlier about Gore is not.

I don't have to know you to know this. You show it.

[senatorlamb]

Again, thanks.

haha. you were annihilated by Tate.

[Jason Tate]

Again, thanks.
Anytime -- is there supposed to be a correlation you're drawing or something?

[CrenshawPunch]

"You're an idiot" is a factual statement - this thread is proof, the crack you made earlier about Gore is not.

I don't have to know you to know this. You show it.


Hahaha. Alright man. Good stuff

[senatorlamb]

GORE RESPONDS (http:/http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/26/gore-responds-to-drudge), HEY-O!

Gore Responds To Drudge’s Latest Hysterics

The right-wing is angry that Al Gore has won so much public attention and goodwill for his work on global warming. Determined to smear his efforts, Drudge writes in a screaming headline:
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/gore21.JPG

Responding to Drudge’s attack, Vice President Gore’s office told ThinkProgress:
1) Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch (http://www.tva.gov/greenpowerswitch/), installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology.
2) Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint — a concept the right-wing fails to understand (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/18/hannity-pathetic/). Gore’s office explains:
What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint (http://www.climatecrisis.net/takeaction/carboncalculator/) and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.
It’s the latest in a series of desperate attacks by Drudge to paint Gore as a hypocrite. Some other examples:
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/gore4.JPG (http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/27/drudge-gore-global-warming/)

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/gore1.JPG

These are the lengths that climate skeptics must go to suppress action on global warming. There is no meaningful debate within the scientific community, so the right-wing busies itself with talk about how much electricity Al Gore’s house uses — and even then they distort the truth.

[Trainsaw]

Real change comes from personal sacrifice. Look to Ghandi, civil rights activists, and people who sacrificed everything for their cause. They sure as hell were not living in mansions. Those people deserve respect. Gore does not.

do you understand the concept of him buying carbon credits? Though he does use energy him purchasing those credits completely negate the amount he does use. Your hypocrite statement therefor is null and void.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

Based on what senatorlamb has said, he isn't adding to the cause. We had assumed that his energy use was standard and not focused on limiting carbon emissions, which makes a huge difference. So now all that we've established here is that he spends a fuckload of money on being energy efficient, which makes this article pointless.


agreed

based on this, the only point that can really be made is, he could save himself a lot of money if he lived in a smaller house. it seems the effect on the environment would not change at all.

[1Roth4]

And how is he not?




Never seen the film have you? No idea what it's about huh?



So he should live in a tent? Hahaha, you are such a fucking idiot.

come on jason.

i think he's saying; that he should attempt to make his houses a little more environmentally friendly..

dismissing someones comment in that fashion isn't making your case more legitimate

[notoaststereo]

whatevs.

[x togepi x]

no you could also make the claim that gore should use less energy and buy more credits..but i don't think that's an argument he wants to make

[Jason Tate]

The right-wing is angry that Al Gore has won so much public attention and goodwill for his work on global warming. Determined to smear his efforts, Drudge writes in a screaming headline:
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/gore21.JPG

Responding to Drudge’s attack, Vice President Gore’s office told ThinkProgress:
1) Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch (http://www.tva.gov/greenpowerswitch/), installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology.
2) Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint — a concept the right-wing fails to understand (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/18/hannity-pathetic/). Gore’s office explains:
What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint (http://www.climatecrisis.net/takeaction/carboncalculator/) and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.
It’s the latest in a series of desperate attacks by Drudge to paint Gore as a hypocrite. Some other examples:
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/gore4.JPG (http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/27/drudge-gore-global-warming/)

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/gore1.JPG

These are the lengths that climate skeptics must go to suppress action on global warming. There is no meaningful debate within the scientific community, so the right-wing busies itself with talk about how much electricity Al Gore’s house uses — and even then they distort the truth.

[senatorlamb]

I already posted that Mr. Tate. :-)

[Ambulance Y]

Haha oh well, everyone knows gore is full of shit anyway.

[and we whisper]

of course he's gonna live in a big house. he still makes other people aware of stuff. you said you have halogen light bulbs? ever try convincing the rest of the world to use halogen light bulbs? try it sometime, hard as shit probably.

[senatorlamb]

Haha oh well, everyone knows gore is full of shit anyway.

your head is full of shit.

[Anton Djamoos]

you're head is full of shit.
Your*

[senatorlamb]

Your*

I'm so worried about saying your when it should be you're, now I'm forgetting to say your when thats the way it should be in the first place.

[Anton Djamoos]

I'm so worried about saying your when it should be you're, now I'm forgetting to say your when thats the way it should be in the first place.
Way to wake me up after it took me an hour to fall asleep with that annoying finger thing on the door.

[senatorlamb]

Way to wake me up after it took me an hour to fall asleep with that annoying finger thing on the door.

that wasn't me. it was was your other two roommates copying me, started by your best friend on my door.

[Anton Djamoos]

that wasn't me. it was was your other two roommates copying me, started by your best friend on my door.
Seriously? Why did they do that? Man, I was not happy last night and today I've been so tired. If either of them are there right now, I would appreciate it if you could express some displeasure in their direction.

Edit: Oh wait, was it on my door or just yours?

[senatorlamb]

Seriously? Why did they do that? Man, I was not happy last night and today I've been so tired. If either of them are there right now, I would appreciate it if you could express some displeasure in their direction.

In fact, I did not make any sound because for some reason my otherwise moist hands were very dry last nite. And in fact, Groogz stole my crown because his our louder than what mine used to be. However, in their defense, they thought you were awake.

EDIT: on my door and the closet door next to my room.

[Anton Djamoos]

In fact, I did not make any sound because for some reason my otherwise moist hands were very dry last nite. And in fact, Groogz stole my crown because his our louder than what mine used to be. However, in their defense, they thought you were awake.
Oh well. What's done is done. Now I must plot retribution.

[senatorlamb]

Oh well. What's done is done. Now I must plot retribution.

sounds like fun for the whole family. I'll watch. Wow, we took over this thread. The home viewers out there must be scratching their heads. Just remember, I was innocent.

[splitsecond]

amusing, but not necessarily damning. gore is still ranked somewhere in the top 5 douches in america though.

[IAPAI]

come on jason.

i think he's saying; that he should attempt to make his houses a little more environmentally friendly..

dismissing someones comment in that fashion isn't making your case more legitimate

but the comment, and the entire thread, is inaccurate. you can't pin Gore's face to "global warming", then attack Gore in an effort to discount the credibility of the IACC's report - which is really what this is all about.
Nobody should have any reason to have a beef with Gore. The only reason people do is because they're so fucking stubborn that they can't admit when someone is right.

[senatorlamb]

amusing, but not necessarily damning. gore is still ranked somewhere in the top 5 douches in america though.

Considering how Gore has been instrumental in bringing public attention to Global Warming, a growing threat that endangers our very existance, I don't see why he qualifies as a douche.

I'd like to know who your other 4 douches of America are. Michael Jordan? Tiger Woods? Oprah?

[Shatter_Glass]

congratulations, want an oscar?

Might as well....they're giving them out to crazy people deez' days.

[Shatter_Glass]

Considering how Gore has been instrumental in bringing public attention to an issue, Global Warming, that endangers our very existance, I don't see why he qualifies as a douche.

I'd like to know who your other 4 douches of America are. Michael Jordan? Tiger Woods? Oprah?

No, they are black and that would be racism.

Ps. Global Warming doesn't exist. Nor will.

[senatorlamb]

No, they are black and that would be racism.

Ps. Global Warming doesn't exist. Nor will.

I was just highlighting some of the most postively recognized American role models, who happen to be black. Its not my fault you bring race into the issue.

If you think Global Warming doesn't exist you might as well also believe the Sun revolves around the Earth, because you're rejecting science that is just as sound and agreed upon.

[Jason Tate]

No, they are black and that would be racism.

Ps. Global Warming doesn't exist. Nor will.

How's it feel to be perpetually wrong?

[atticus1492]

No, they are black and that would be racism.

Ps. Global Warming doesn't exist. Nor will.

Really? Good to know.

[splitsecond]

Considering how Gore has been instrumental in bringing public attention to Global Warming, a growing threat that endangers our very existance, I don't see why he qualifies as a douche.

I'd like to know who your other 4 douches of America are. Michael Jordan? Tiger Woods? Oprah?

Id like to see opinion polls to back up that claim. Gore hasnt done anything but make people who already care about it, care about it more. I cant say I know anyone who has suddenly said "you know, that global warming thing is a pretty big deal, maybe I should do something about it.

[senatorlamb]

Id like to see opinion polls to back up that claim. Gore hasnt done anything but make people who already care about it, care about it more. I cant say I know anyone who has suddenly said "you know, that global warming thing is a pretty big deal, maybe I should do something about it.

Thanks to Al Gore: global warming is now a major issue constantly talked about in the news, has become apart of the regular vernacular of Americans, forced President Bush to allude to it in his State of the Union, and has it made it a major focus of the 08 presidential campaign. Al Gore is doing something positive not only for America, but for the world. This isn't some wacky environmental theory. It is scientific proof agreed upon by 99% of the the legitimate scientific community. The only reason I emphasize "legitimate" is because little study groups and organizations spring up to cast doubt on global warming, only to be later learned that they have ties to the oil and gas lobby. Its a strategy right out of the cigarette company's handbook when they used to run ads bragging about how their cigarette is approved by 9 out of 10 doctors. Yet, when history is written, doubters and opponents of solving the global warming crisis will have been shown to be fools.

[senatorlamb]

This should end it.

DailyKos (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/2/27/164154/282):
Vice President Gore's office also wanted everyone to know:


100 percent of the power the Gores use in their home (and in all their homes though I wouldn't bring this up) is green power.


Both the Vice President and Mrs Gore have home offices and conduct business at the house so obviously they use more power than someone who is just a homeowner


The Gores drive a hybrid, use compact fluorescents, et cetera


And the Gores live a carbon neutral life which means that for every ton of carbon they emit, they also purchase offsets.

[rikfrommf]

No, they are black and that would be racism.

Ps. Global Warming doesn't exist. Nor will.

where exactly did you learn that fact? You are 20 correct? Where do you go to school?

[Lueda Alia]

Id like to see opinion polls to back up that claim. Gore hasnt done anything but make people who already care about it, care about it more. I cant say I know anyone who has suddenly said "you know, that global warming thing is a pretty big deal, maybe I should do something about it.
Actually, that's not true. I'm one of those people. I care about global warming now more than I have before. Maybe that has something to do with age, but I know it's because I've learned more about it in the recent year(s).

[FreshyFresh23]

Id like to see opinion polls to back up that claim. Gore hasnt done anything but make people who already care about it, care about it more. I cant say I know anyone who has suddenly said "you know, that global warming thing is a pretty big deal, maybe I should do something about it.

You live in Arizona. If you read t he Arizona Republic (a conservative paper) they have printed articles throughout the past year highlighting Global Warming and its effects as well as its higher visibility following the release of "An Inconvenient Truth."

They only printed about 15 letters to the editor regarding Global Warming and how people have swapped in their old car for a hybrid or how people have began donating to the fund to save Arizona's local environment.

[FreshyFresh23]

No, they are black and that would be racism.

Ps. Global Warming doesn't exist. Nor will.


There we go folks. That settles it. NOR WILL. THANKS. After that bit of startling info could you go ahead and pass in whatever documentation proves YOU an authority on global warming, cancelling out the educated opinion of over 98% of the worldwide scientific community?

(PS you dont have any and sorry to break it to you but it exists. Now. and will get worse.)

[captainhampton]

Practicing what you preach is very important. I realize that every fucks up, including me, a lot. However Gore is preaching at a national level. For anyone to take him seriously he should lead by example. His mansion isnt doing anything for climate change. If anything, it is adding to the cause.

exactly, good to see someone who gets it.

[aminorthreat55]

exactly, good to see someone who gets it.
Right, because no one else thinks that, just the two of you.