View Full Version : Supreme Court Rules In Favor of Westboro Baptist Church
yourenotsam
03/02/11, 09:38 AM
Well, fuck.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/03/02/scotus.westboro.church/index.html?hpt=C1
saysmydoctor
03/02/11, 09:48 AM
A depressing victory for free speech, because we have to protect assholes like these folks.
yourenotsam
03/02/11, 09:52 AM
A depressing victory for free speech, because we have to protect assholes like these folks.
I know, right? Like I said other places, I'm glad the Supreme Court protects free speech in all its forms, but I really wish there was a legal loophole that could take those fuckers down.
saysmydoctor
03/02/11, 09:55 AM
I wonder if Alito's vote was because he just doesn't like WBC or could care less about protecting free speech.
If it's the former, what a noble asshole. If it's the latter, what an asshole.
vincentbiz
03/02/11, 09:59 AM
Thor hates straights
StephenYoung
03/02/11, 10:10 AM
Ugh, can't you guys ban these guys like Canada did?
inthemidst
03/02/11, 10:19 AM
Saw this news on CNN this morning. Really not happy about it, but they have the legitimate right to protest in any public forum. I didn't realize funerals were regarded as public forum, but I guess they are? I don't know anymore...
caveBEAR
03/02/11, 10:19 AM
Ugh, can't you guys ban these guys like Canada did?
Not really, no.
steve187
03/02/11, 10:23 AM
I would firebomb one of their meetings hoping for death without any remorse.
inb4 "no one deserves no matter how terrible people they are" etc. fuck off.
yourenotsam
03/02/11, 10:25 AM
I would firebomb one of their meetings hoping for death without any remorse.
inb4 "no one deserves no matter how terrible people they are" etc. fuck off.
Me too. I really wish all the irrelevant shit that people blamed for the Tuscon shooting actually worked. Then I could just make a fucking target map with their names on it and have crazies lining up to take 'em out.
RedWineSheets
03/02/11, 10:27 AM
Not sure why the holding in this case could not have been made extremely narrow. The IIED verdict being vacated sucks for the family, really could have done some damage to these assholes and provided the family with some sense of justice.
mantipede
03/02/11, 10:31 AM
I'll say it: if I can AIDS, I'd throw my blood on them in a heartbeat.
i can AIDS too ;-)
i don't know how i feel about this. free speech still exists, but damn if this doesn't fall under time/place/manner restrictions. guess it's not the same as yelling fire in a crowded theater.
topher465
03/02/11, 10:45 AM
These people are fools. I truly doubt that any logical sense exists in their minds.
StephenYoung
03/02/11, 10:53 AM
These people do it for the lawsuits. They don't believe the shit they do. Phelps are all lawyers. You lay one finger on them, they can all sue your asses, while pissing you off all within the confines of the law.
secretsociety92
03/02/11, 11:01 AM
Glad that these heartless assholes have been banned from our country especially since the were going to meet with the BNP and EDL.
NateFoundGlory
03/02/11, 11:01 AM
I would firebomb one of their meetings hoping for death without any remorse.
inb4 "no one deserves no matter how terrible people they are" etc. fuck off.
I'm with you. These people piss me the fuck off.
S7ranburgLar
03/02/11, 11:16 AM
These people preach nothing but a wrathful, angry God and promote nothing but hatred. Also, they receive nothing but a status of social pariahs. I don't understand what keeps these people going.
I refuse to acknowledge the existence of such a narrow-minded deity, and would certainly not devote my life to worship such a terrible entity.
caveBEAR
03/02/11, 11:17 AM
I'll say it: if I can AIDS, I'd throw my blood on them in a heartbeat.
Just quoting this to make sure "I'll say it: if I can AIDS" lives on forever.
crackedthesky
03/02/11, 11:30 AM
General thread VIII: If I Can Aids
Smash Adams
03/02/11, 11:34 AM
i can AIDS too ;-)
i don't know how i feel about this. free speech still exists, but damn if this doesn't fall under time/place/manner restrictions. guess it's not the same as yelling fire in a crowded theater.
More like yelling *** in a gay movie theater
dead.end.friend
03/02/11, 11:36 AM
How does what they do not fall under the category of hate speech?
More like yelling *** in a gay movie theater
lulz
How does what they do not fall under the category of hate speech?where do you draw the line of what's permissible and what isn't?
RedWineSheets
03/02/11, 11:43 AM
How does what they do not fall under the category of hate speech?
Brandenburg v. Ohio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio)
bandnamexmyname
03/02/11, 11:52 AM
Dammit.
saturday_snow_squall
03/02/11, 12:06 PM
Brandenburg v. Ohio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio)
ugh.
MyBestFiend
03/02/11, 12:30 PM
Someone needs to tell these dicks that just because it's legal doesn't mean its the right thing to do. I can't even imagine how pissed off I would be they were protesting at my son's funeral.
Ricketts
03/02/11, 01:38 PM
Keep the government out of private affairs, I say. IDGAF if you wanna protest my sons funeral but you should have to deal with it when I fuckin cut you.
saysmydoctor
03/02/11, 01:40 PM
Brandenburg v. Ohio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio)
Yupppp.
Jake Gyllenhaal
03/02/11, 01:44 PM
In the wake of their Supreme Court victory, the WBC is going to celebrate by quadrupling their funeral protests (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/02/westboro-baptist-church-supreme-court_n_830484.html).
Margie Phelps:
"Let me tell you what this church does: Shut up all that talk about infliction of emotional distress. When you're standing there with your young child's body bits and pieces in a coffin, you've been dealt some emotional distress by the Lord your God... I very much appreciate the fact that I get to be the mouth of God in this matter."
drawndead
03/02/11, 02:08 PM
Someone needs to tell these dicks that just because it's legal doesn't mean its the right thing to do. I can't even imagine how pissed off I would be they were protesting at my son's funeral.
Unfortunately there is no law against "opinion" but I'm right there with you
Tinnerz
03/02/11, 02:08 PM
You know, I'm usually one of those "bleeding heart" types that believes every living thing is precious. However, the sooner these asshats leave this world, the better.
Jake Gyllenhaal
03/02/11, 02:23 PM
You know, I'm usually one of those "bleeding heart" types that believes every living thing is precious. However, the sooner these asshats leave this world, the better.
Problem is that they won't stop breeding.
deFobbed14yrs
03/02/11, 02:36 PM
God WBC is disgusting. I watched a documentary on them last year on youtube, holy hell are they mean spirited
S7ranburgLar
03/02/11, 02:57 PM
Ugh, can't you guys ban these guys like Canada did?
yup. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2008/08/08/westboro-protest.html
it's a little old, but whatever.
"Your freedom to swing your arm in the air ends when it touches the end of my nose," I love that.
brenByah
03/02/11, 03:41 PM
I wish something could be done about these assholes. Being a lifelong Kansas resident, I simply can't stomach them and their hatred anymore. These funeral protests are completely unacceptable and absolutely disgusting.
saturday_snow_squall
03/02/11, 03:44 PM
i wouldnt have a problem if these people were burned harshly.
Under The Knife
03/02/11, 03:45 PM
We can picket Fred Phelps funeral then, right?
brenByah
03/02/11, 04:01 PM
I wanna burn that church to the ground so badly
fredrico0012
03/02/11, 04:50 PM
These people do it for the lawsuits. They don't believe the shit they do. Phelps are all lawyers. You lay one finger on them, they can all sue your asses, while pissing you off all within the confines of the law.
They came to our school once and we were told not to even pay them an ounce of attention so we wouldn't be sued.
saturday_snow_squall
03/02/11, 04:51 PM
They came to our school once and we were told not to even pay them an ounce of attention so we wouldn't be sued.
whyd they come to your school?
Jake Gyllenhaal
03/02/11, 04:52 PM
We can picket Fred Phelps funeral then, right?
His funeral will feature quite a fireworks show.
brenByah
03/02/11, 04:56 PM
These people do it for the lawsuits. They don't believe the shit they do. Phelps are all lawyers. You lay one finger on them, they can all sue your asses, while pissing you off all within the confines of the law.
They absolutely believe the shit they do, which makes it all the more upsetting.
ChaplainTappman
03/02/11, 05:00 PM
This is why society produced Anons.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504784_162-20036043-10391705.html
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://downloads.westborobaptistchurch.com /
captivewear
03/02/11, 05:20 PM
How can people like this get support from the supreme court yet Gays don't have equal rights?
So are we saying that gays are less then religious nutjobs that are on the verge of needing psychotherapy.
Just absolutely disgusting...
Jake Gyllenhaal
03/02/11, 05:54 PM
How can people like this get support from the supreme court yet Gays don't have equal rights?
So are we saying that gays are less then religious nutjobs that are on the verge of needing psychotherapy.
Just absolutely disgusting...
The Supreme Court is not technically supporting the Church's actions but ruled in favor of their Constitutional right to free speech. It's a double-edged sword and the Church has figured out how to exploit it.
saturday_snow_squall
03/02/11, 06:03 PM
The Supreme Court is not technically supporting the Church's actions but ruled in favor of their Constitutional right to free speech. It's a double-edged sword and the Church has figured out how to exploit it.
just travel back in time and change the constitution, dude.
fredrico0012
03/02/11, 07:16 PM
whyd they come to your school?
They came to Charleston. So they stopped at the Citadel since we're a military school. I honestly never saw them. Wish I did.
sauce301
03/02/11, 07:31 PM
They came to Charleston. So they stopped at the Citadel since we're a military school. I honestly never saw them. Wish I did.
they protested a marine from near my home town, but they got pushed a mile or so away cause of all of the counter protestors. i wanted to go, but ironically i was doing recruiters assistance/we aren't supposed to go to protest type deals. are you studying for a commission or something?
Steiny29
03/03/11, 06:01 AM
How can people like this get support from the supreme court yet Gays don't have equal rights?
So are we saying that gays are less then religious nutjobs that are on the verge of needing psychotherapy.
Just absolutely disgusting...
American policy is literally on a case by case basis. When our country was born all men were created equal. But since then we've had laws stating that blacks and women are equal.
And our society doesn't understand law anyway. Evident by the fact that States are making it illegal to be an illegal citizen. Like how much more stupid can we get?
caveBEAR
03/03/11, 07:44 AM
This is why society produced Anons.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504784_162-20036043-10391705.html
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://downloads.westborobaptistchurch.com /
I thought society invented anons to get pre-teens to strip?
fredrico0012
03/03/11, 02:31 PM
they protested a marine from near my home town, but they got pushed a mile or so away cause of all of the counter protestors. i wanted to go, but ironically i was doing recruiters assistance/we aren't supposed to go to protest type deals. are you studying for a commission or something?
Commissioning in May with the Army. You don't have to go into any of the branches if you go here though.
Jake Gyllenhaal
03/03/11, 07:31 PM
The father of the fallen Marine at the center of the Supreme Court case will not be surprised if a future WBC protest will result in gunfire against the protesters.
http://cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2011/03/03/nr.fathers.pain.cnn
sauce301
03/04/11, 10:11 AM
Commissioning in May with the Army. You don't have to go into any of the branches if you go here though.
nice. what's your MOS(i think that's what the army calls it) or field?
Dan1234
03/07/11, 05:42 PM
I think we should be able to legislate that a funeral, even though held in public, should be recognized as a private function and therefore it should be illegal to protest at a funeral.
open mind
03/08/11, 04:16 AM
good.
i say that as a big fan of free speech. the westboro people can go fuck themselves.
PunkInfluence09
03/08/11, 07:36 AM
My plan is to set up a fake funeral where I will claim that 1000 gay men and women will be participating, and then bomb them when they show up to protest.
Disanthro
03/08/11, 08:22 AM
I'll be damned.
PunkInfluence09
03/08/11, 08:30 AM
NEW VALID CONTACT INFORMATION FOR PHELPS
Elizabeth Phelps Work 785 233 0822
Tim Phelps Home 785 273 4780
Tim Phelps Work 7852915100
Abigale Phelps Work 7852967709 (Ask to be put through)
Fred Phelps JR Home 785 272 4135
Fred Phelps Work 785 296 3195
Shirley Phelps Work 785-233-4162 (Phelps Chartered)
Fred Phelps Sr Work 785 2963317
Just sayin'
caveBEAR
03/08/11, 08:51 AM
My plan is to set up a fake funeral where I will claim that 1000 gay men and women will be participating, and then bomb them when they show up to protest.
Right? Because that wouldn't make you 1,000 times worse than WBC...
:rolleyes:
JamesBond
03/08/11, 02:56 PM
I would firebomb one of their meetings hoping for death without any remorse.
inb4 "no one deserves no matter how terrible people they are" etc. fuck off.
all the church does is run their mouth. They don't believe in physically harming people. You on the other hand want to bring physical harm.
NEW VALID CONTACT INFORMATION FOR PHELPS
Elizabeth Phelps Work 785 233 0822
Tim Phelps Home 785 273 4780
Tim Phelps Work 7852915100
Abigale Phelps Work 7852967709 (Ask to be put through)
Fred Phelps JR Home 785 272 4135
Fred Phelps Work 785 296 3195
Shirley Phelps Work 785-233-4162 (Phelps Chartered)
Fred Phelps Sr Work 785 2963317
Just sayin'
Where did this come from? Haha.
ramomcferno
03/08/11, 08:51 PM
This is a hate group and as a Christian they sicken me to my core.
boxingwithstars
03/08/11, 09:06 PM
A depressing victory for free speech, because we have to protect assholes like these folks.
Do we though? Isn't what they do considered hate speech? That's not always protected.
myplanforescape
03/08/11, 09:17 PM
Do we though? Isn't what they do considered hate speech? That's not always protected.
Hate speech is protected unless there is threat of "imminent lawless action"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action
Hate speech is protected unless there is threat of "imminent lawless action"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action
I agree with this. I hate the Westboro Baptist Church and they're obviously terrible people but they do have the right. We can't stop limiting free speech cause that's a dangerous path.
fredrico0012
03/09/11, 12:55 PM
nice. what's your MOS(i think that's what the army calls it) or field?
Chemical.
EasySkankin
03/09/11, 01:51 PM
I don't understand why the local government can't stop them and write them off as "Disturbing the peace" or something like that.
Jake Gyllenhaal
03/14/11, 10:32 AM
Kevin Smith invited the Phelps family to a screening of his new film "Red State" (based loosely on the church)
They (http://twitter.com/#%21/ThatKevinSmith/status/46763830390427649) did (http://twitter.com/#%21/ThatKevinSmith/status/46765483134951424) not (http://twitter.com/#%21/ThatKevinSmith/status/46772820553908224) like (http://twitter.com/#%21/ThatKevinSmith/status/46764856438833152) it (http://twitter.com/#%21/ThatKevinSmith/status/46773937216032768).
bob xvx
03/14/11, 01:29 PM
This was the correct decision, no matter how shitty they are, free speach trumphs all!
domotime2
03/15/11, 03:39 AM
damn that document wrote 220 years ago. got us again!!!!! oh praise that heavenly document from the 18th century. you are always right. god bless you piece of paper with ink signed by pretty cool guys.
caveBEAR
03/15/11, 05:14 AM
:-|
damn that document wrote 220 years ago. got us again!!!!! oh praise that heavenly document from the 18th century. you are always right. god bless you piece of paper with ink signed by pretty cool guys.
I enjoy the sarcasm I see from you in countless threads. This was no exception. I recently heard Daniel Tosh's new special and in it he mentions that the founding fathers were a bunch of fucks. He's right, and everyone knows this.
bastard_of_ness
03/17/11, 07:58 AM
On my way into work today, this made me think of these insufferable assholes... but it also made me chuckle: http://tpm2.brookiellen.com/2011/worth-a-thousand-words-mobile-chapel/
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