Should Plastic Water Bottles Be Banned?

[captivewear]

The water bottling industry has killed America and the world. Not only in environmentally but costing tax payers a lot of money and making companies like Pepsi, Coca Cola and Nestle billions at our consumer's hard earned money. Bottled water and other liquids like soda not only hurt the environment but they cost us at the gas pump, grocery stores, taxes and subsidies so they can take advantage of the consumer (you and me).
So here is my question. So should plastic bottles be banned? Do we need to start banning bottled water?

Discuss...

[StephenYoung]

They taste like shit, and only idiots who don't realize this buy bottled water.

[Enolase]

I am surprised so many people still use the plastic bottles, so many better alternatives.

[mena]

I'll be honest, my family buys packs of bottled water all the time. It's more convenient to just quickly grab it on the way out when going to the gym, school, etc. I have refillable bottles, but they make my water taste like plastic and I don't fee like dragging them around with me all day. Plus, the tap water here starts to taste disgusting after being left out for more than 10 minutes. But I do recycle all of my plastic water bottles, so I'll just use that to justify my evil ways.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

Plastic water bottles should not be banned. In the interests of companies such as PepsiCo and The Coca-Cola Company, private industries should have the privilege of bottling their product as they see fit. Big government should have no intrusion on private industry. There is no conclusive evidence that plastic containers pose a negative impact to the environment. In addition, if consumers are so inclined to, they can always recycle their empty bottles.

[captivewear]

Plastic water bottles should not be banned. In the interests of companies such as PepsiCo and The Coca-Cola Company, private industries should have the privilege of bottling their product as they see fit. Big government should have no intrusion on private industry. There is no conclusive evidence that plastic containers pose a negative impact to the environment. In addition, if consumers are so inclined to, they can always recycle their empty bottles.
Well the only people that truly benefit from this is big business.
So then "Big gov't" shouldn't regulate anything?
Yeah cause it has worked so well on the private banking industry...

[captivewear]

There is no conclusive evidence that plastic containers pose a negative impact to the environment.
I am not the kind of person that likes to call people stupid or clueless but holy shit are you stupid if you truly believe that. Something that doesn't biodegrade. Plastic contains Benzene which is a huge cause in cancer.

-In 2006, only 24.7 percent of plastic bottles were recycled in the U.S., leaving 3.36 tons of bottles in the garbage. Once the bottles make it into a landfill, they take 200 to 400 years to break down. In 2007, according to the Environmental Protection Agency, the U.S. put about 14 million tons of plastic into the municipal solid waste stream. Containers are the largest proportion of waste.
-For every 1 bottle made it takes twice the size of water to make that one water bottle. Wasteful.



Making of water bottles takes 714 million barrels of oil each year. Hundreds of oil refineries being used. No negative effects? Really?
I think you are the kind of person who goes with the quote "out of sight, out of mind" when thinking about something.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

I am not the kind of person that likes to call people stupid or clueless but holy shit are you stupid if you truly believe that. Something that doesn't biodegrade. Plastic contains Benzene which is a huge cause in cancer.

-In 2006, only 24.7 percent of plastic bottles were recycled in the U.S., leaving 3.36 tons of bottles in the garbage. Once the bottles make it into a landfill, they take 200 to 400 years to break down. In 2007, according to the Environmental Protection Agency, the U.S. put about 14 million tons of plastic into the municipal solid waste stream. Containers are the largest proportion of waste.
-For every 1 bottle made it takes twice the size of water to make that one water bottle. Wasteful.



Making of water bottles takes 714 million barrels of oil each year. Hundreds of oil refineries being used. No negative effects? Really?
I think you are the kind of person who goes with the quote "out of sight, out of mind" when thinking about something.

Haha, thank you for that response. I don't actually believe in what I posted. I'm as liberal as they come. I was simply channeling Rush Limbaugh in that post. I posted that in order to get a response such as yours. Thank you for providing relevant info for any environmental skeptics out there.

[TinMan20]

YES. there are about 5 gyres in the earths ocean, each twice the size of texas, swirling with plastic debris, lots coming from water bottles. plastic is not easily recycled due to its extremely low melting point. humans need to figure out an alternative to plastics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch

[muttley]

It wouldn't be a bad thing.

[COREhorizon]

Maybe if you offered specific solutions people would take you seriously.

[kidinthebushes]

They make life more convenient for people, hence why they continue to buy them. Welcome to capitalism.

That being said, I definitely think they do more harm than good. But leave that up to the consumer.

[brook183]

Haha, thank you for that response. I don't actually believe in what I posted. I'm as liberal as they come. I was simply channeling Rush Limbaugh in that post. I posted that in order to get a response such as yours. Thank you for providing relevant info for any environmental skeptics out there.nice move :appl:

but to answer the question, yes they should definitely be banned.

[saysmydoctor]

Maybe if you offered specific solutions people would take you seriously.
I could argue the same thing to you.

[ohitsmark]

People are probably too familiar with them to ever change to something else. Like solar power. Which sucks. Wish people weren't so closed minded.

[COREhorizon]

I could argue the same thing to you.

Give me a few years, once I have my Lehigh engineering degree I'll get back to you.

[saysmydoctor]

Give me a few years, once I have my Lehigh engineering degree I'll get back to you.
Duly noted.

[S7ranburgLar]

I think this is where capitalists can point to and say "we won".
Companies turn on a tap, fill plastic up with it and charge 1-2 dollars for it, with free water sitting next to the vending machine in a fountain. Ridiculous.

[more heart]

Would any of you drink out of the Hudson?

Thought so. Bottled water it is.

[heyguys123]

you pretty much stopped having credibility to me when you opened with the statement that "the water bottling industry HAS KILLED THE WORLD."

[peder458]

They make life more convenient for people, hence why they continue to buy them. Welcome to capitalism.

That being said, I definitely think they do more harm than good. But leave that up to the consumer.

The average consumer, apparently does not care about the harm done. This is shown by the continued purchase of bottles. Something else needs to be done.

Some things are more important than convenience.

[peder458]

Would any of you drink out of the Hudson?

Thought so. Bottled water it is.

Sarcasm?

[ilovewiffleball]

Let the market decide. If everyone sees bottled water as an evil, they'll stop purchasing it and companies will no longer offer the product. The fact that it still exists means there must be some advantage that the consumer market perceives.

I think bottled water will eventually be phased out over time, I just can't see a complete overhaul happening overnight.

[more heart]

Sarcasm?
No, do you know how filthy the Hudson is?

[kidinthebushes]

The average consumer, apparently does not care about the harm done. This is shown by the continued purchase of bottles. Something else needs to be done.

Some things are more important than convenience.

Let me guess government intervention?

Let me guess, you're a raging anti-business, anti-capitalist, anti-free choice fucking liberal who wants government to make decisions for them?

[kidinthebushes]

Let the market decide. If everyone sees bottled water as an evil, they'll stop purchasing it and companies will no longer offer the product. The fact that it still exists means there must be some advantage that the consumer market perceives.

I think bottled water will eventually be phased out over time, I just can't see a complete overhaul happening overnight.

Thank you. Someone else is sensible here.

[peder458]

No, do you know how filthy the Hudson is?

No, did you know that drinking out of water bottles and drinking straight out of the Hudson are not the only two options available?

[Miketheunicycle]

I'll be honest, my family buys packs of bottled water all the time. It's more convenient to just quickly grab it on the way out when going to the gym, school, etc. I have refillable bottles, but they make my water taste like plastic and I don't fee like dragging them around with me all day. Plus, the tap water here starts to taste disgusting after being left out for more than 10 minutes. But I do recycle all of my plastic water bottles, so I'll just use that to justify my evil ways.

i'm the same way haha..

however when we have no bottles, i just fill up a glass with ice and tap water.

[<*)))><]

No, did you know that drinking out of water bottles and drinking straight out of the Hudson are not the only two options available?
It is here, a lot of the water supply comes from the Hudson.

[more heart]

No, did you know that drinking out of water bottles and drinking straight out of the Hudson are not the only two options available?
Enlighten me on my other options. Should I gather up rain drops the next time it rains?

[perceptrons]

YES. there are about 5 gyres in the earths ocean, each twice the size of texas, swirling with plastic debris, lots coming from water bottles. plastic is not easily recycled due to its extremely low melting point. humans need to figure out an alternative to plastics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch
Fun fact: "the hypothetically “cohesive” plastic patch is actually less than 1 percent (http://oregonstate.edu/urm/ncs/archives/2011/jan/oceanic-%E2%80%9Cgarbage-patch%E2%80%9D-not-nearly-big-portrayed-media) of the geographic size of Texas"

[peder458]

Let me guess government intervention?

Let me guess, you're a raging anti-business, anti-capitalist, anti-free choice raging fucking liberal who wants government to make decisions for them?

Let me guess, you're an uneducated red-neck, anti-equality, rights-stealing ignorant racist conservative who screams "socialism/nazism/communism" at anyone who disagrees with you?

Now, I don't really think that; I was just mocking your absurd response.

Simply letting the market decide when to stop irreparably harm the environment at its own leisure is a terrible argument.

[kidinthebushes]

Let me guess, you're an uneducated red-neck, anti-equality, rights-stealing ignorant racist conservative who screams "socialism/nazism/communism at anyone who disagrees with you?

Now, I don't really think that; I was just mocking your absurd response.

Simply letting the market decide when to stop irreparably harm the environment at its own leisure is a terrible argument.

Blame it on the capitalistic system we've been under since this country was founded. Consumers decide what sells and what doesn't.

I simply stated the obvious about you wanting the government to make decisions for you. No need to make things up about me.

[peder458]

It is here, a lot of the water supply comes from the Hudson.

Directly? No filtering or anything? Basically one long straw from the Hudson to your tap? (I am actually asking... not trying to be an ass.)

Enlighten me on my other options. Should I gather up rain drops the next time it rains?

See question(s) above.

[God damner]

Non biodegradable products are messed, and privatized water is evil.

[<*)))><]

Directly? No filtering or anything? Basically one long straw from the Hudson to your tap? (I am actually asking... not trying to be an ass.)



See question(s) above.
I'm sure it is filtered but the Hudson has a ton of pollution from garbage to nuclear waste.

[saysmydoctor]

Would any of you drink out of the Hudson?

Thought so. Bottled water it is.
There's more than one river, you know right.

Those are the two options available to us? Bottled water or drinking of the Hudson? How about you come back to the thread when you're serious.
No, do you know how filthy the Hudson is?
Yes. Depends on where you are.

[peder458]

Blame it on the capitalistic system we've been under since this country was founded. Consumers decide what sells and what doesn't.

I simply stated the obvious about you wanting the government to make decisions for you. No need to make things up about me.

I am sensing some learned helplessness on your part.

Show me where I stated that I wanted the government making decisions for me? No need to make things up about me.

[more heart]

See question(s) above.
You can only filter so much shit.

[saysmydoctor]

You can only filter so much shit.
God this is rich, coming from someone who gets their water from the Catskills, the cleanest water in the country.

[mena]

i'm the same way haha..

however when we have no bottles, i just fill up a glass with ice and tap water.
I have no problem drinking tap water when I'm at home, but when I'm out I just get a bottled water. Like someone else said, it's much more convenient for people and we continue to buy them. They're not going anywhere for a while.

[more heart]

There's more than one river, you know right.

Those are the two options available to us? Bottled water or drinking of the Hudson? How about you come back to the thread when you're serious.

Yes. Depends on where you are.
I'm well aware of that, but in Poughkeepsie it's either the Hudson or bottled water and this stretch of the Hudson is filled with awful substances. And again, what are these "other" options people are proposing?

[peder458]

I'm sure it is filtered but the Hudson has a ton of pollution from garbage to nuclear waste.
I am not saying I don't believe you, but I find it hard to believe that the only non-harmful option to the individual is bottled water. It is entirely possibly that I am wrong.

[saysmydoctor]

God this is rich, coming from someone who gets their water from the Catskills, the cleanest water in the country.
I'm going to correct myself, Poughkeepsie gets its water from the Hudson but here is the most recent water quality report from the town of Poughkeepsie: http://www.townofpoughkeepsie.com/water/2010_Annual_Water_Quality_Report.pd f

TL;DR version: Water Department received a single violation over an unlocked fence at a water storage tank at the time of inspection. Other than that, it was in compliance with state and federal regulations concerning the presence of contaminants in water.

[saysmydoctor]

Catskills still have the cleanest drinking water in the country, but I forgot that most of that water is used to quench the thirst of NYC.

[.dot]

I've always been against using plastic water bottles. But sadly, I'm forced to now. For some reason the water in my city pretty much instantly gives me canker sores. Even if I use a water filter :shrug:

[peder458]

I'm going to correct myself, Poughkeepsie gets its water from the Hudson but here is the most recent water quality report from the town of Poughkeepsie: http://www.townofpoughkeepsie.com/water/2010_Annual_Water_Quality_Report.pd f

TL;DR version: Water Department received a single violation over an unlocked fence at a water storage tank at the time of inspection. Other than that, it was in compliance with state and federal regulations concerning the presence of contaminants in water.

But that sounds like socialism!?

[more heart]

God this is rich, coming from someone who gets their water from the Catskills, the cleanest water in the country.
But we don't...

[<*)))><]

I am not saying I don't believe you, but I find it hard to believe that the only non-harmful option to the individual is bottled water. It is entirely possibly that I am wrong.
Its not harmful but it unbearable to drink.

[TheWonderYears]

Lake Michigan water is damn fine.

[peder458]

Its not harmful but it unbearable to drink.

Fair enough; I wasn't sure what the situation was.

[saysmydoctor]

But that sounds like socialism!?
Hudson River isn't all that bad. Don't get me wrong, it's filthy, but it's not the 70s/80s anymore, when GE was dumping shit into it. Those factories were here in the Albany/Saratoga area.

But NYSDEC has really brought the hammer down and really moved forward with the clean-up effort and the Clean Water Act really helped pave the way to cleaning up the river. A study in 2010 showed some improvements. (http://tarrytown.patch.com/articles/hudson-river-water-quality-results-are-in) It's all a matter of location and it is getting better.

[peder458]

Hudson River isn't all that bad. Don't get me wrong, it's filthy, but it's not the 70s/80s anymore, when GE was dumping shit into it. Those factories were here in the Albany/Saratoga area.

But NYSDEC has really brought the hammer down and really moved forward with the clean-up effort and the Clean Water Act really helped pave the way to cleaning up the river. A study in 2010 showed some improvements. (http://tarrytown.patch.com/articles/hudson-river-water-quality-results-are-in) It's all a matter of location and it is getting better.

I have never been to NY, but I was skeptical that bottled water was the absolute only option for safe water.

[troubledbyinsects]

I only drink rain water. It's the best way to help the environment.

[saysmydoctor]

Albany had the best tasting drinking water in the state last year, but we operate numerous reservoirs.

[saysmydoctor]

I have never been to NY, but I was skeptical that bottled water was the absolute only option for safe water.
Of course it isn't. The choice isn't simply between the Hudson and bottled water. That kind of oversimplification is just downright ridiculous.

Edit: I just realized I kind of made NY the discussion. Let's say he said some river instead of Hudson. The options still aren't that narrow.

[Miketheunicycle]

I have no problem drinking tap water when I'm at home, but when I'm out I just get a bottled water. Like someone else said, it's much more convenient for people and we continue to buy them. They're not going anywhere for a while.
i agree

[peder458]

Of course it isn't. The choice isn't simply between the Hudson and bottled water. That kind of oversimplification is just downright ridiculous.

Edit: I just realized I kind of made NY the discussion. Let's say he said some river instead of Hudson. The options still aren't that narrow.

Understood. I was just feeling like I was way off base for a moment.

[TinMan20]

Fun fact: "the hypothetically “cohesive” plastic patch is actually less than 1 percent (http://oregonstate.edu/urm/ncs/archives/2011/jan/oceanic-%E2%80%9Cgarbage-patch%E2%80%9D-not-nearly-big-portrayed-media) of the geographic size of Texas"

haha. gotta show that to my environmental health teacher. probly flip her shit it if i did.

[saysmydoctor]

When we talk geographic size, are we talking on the surface or are we counting what is happening underneath? Like an iceberg?

I mean, Texas didn't sound realistic anyway.

[Scrandon]

They make life more convenient for people, hence why they continue to buy them. Welcome to capitalism.

That being said, I definitely think they do more harm than good. But leave that up to the consumer.
It's a perfect case where individual incentives don't align with the common good. A failure of capitalism.

[domotime2]

let the market decide....i hate when people say that.

[JuneJuly]

I definitely don't think that bottled water tastes like shit. That's what I drink in college. I found out that I drink significantly less water if I don't have bottles of it. That being said...I know that I shouldn't buy bottles and I always feel at least a little guilty. This semester I haven't been...I've been filling up my Nalgene at the fountain.

At home we have a tasty well.

[armoireofdoom]

Haha, thank you for that response. I don't actually believe in what I posted. I'm as liberal as they come. I was simply channeling Rush Limbaugh in that post. I posted that in order to get a response such as yours. Thank you for providing relevant info for any environmental skeptics out there.

Well done sire. :bowdown:

[Ryan Rumsey]

I'll be honest, my family buys packs of bottled water all the time. It's more convenient to just quickly grab it on the way out when going to the gym, school, etc. I have refillable bottles, but they make my water taste like plastic and I don't fee like dragging them around with me all day. Plus, the tap water here starts to taste disgusting after being left out for more than 10 minutes. But I do recycle all of my plastic water bottles, so I'll just use that to justify my evil ways.

I feel the same way.

[<*)))><]

People should invest in a nalgene bottle, they are unbreakable.

[Theseventhson]

The water from the tap in my area tastes like shit, even when it's filtered. That's all I know.

[maxvsmaradona]

fuck bottles. i drink out of cups.

[caveBEAR]

I set out jugs to catch the month's rain water, then boil it as needed.

[secretsociety92]

If everybody recycled there wouldn't be a problem in terms of the environment. Water isn't the only thing that is put in a plastic bottle by the way.

[Theseventhson]

If everybody recycled there wouldn't be a problem in terms of the environment. Water isn't the only thing that is put in a plastic bottle by the way.

Yeah, but I don't have a sink that provides me with Coke.

[secretsociety92]

Yeah, but I don't have a sink that provides me with Coke.
What is wrong with pouring Coke out of a big bottle into a smaller one?

[caveBEAR]

:-|

[Scrandon]

If everybody recycled there wouldn't be a problem in terms of the environment. Water isn't the only thing that is put in a plastic bottle by the way.
The process of recycling plastic is actually pretty crappy. Most of it is sent to China to be handled, we don't want to even do our own recycling when it comes to plastic.

[s12sim]

anyone who looks into this topic and doesnt see why bottled water is a waste is simply a fool.

[bub2140]

eScDfYzMEEw

[caveBEAR]

The process of recycling plastic is actually pretty crappy. Most of it is sent to China to be handled, we don't want to even do our own recycling when it comes to plastic.

Yup, and the pollution and fuel the recycling trucks and plants use pretty much nullifies any of the good recycling does in the first place.
:shrug:

[apoemtothedead]

Give me a few years, once I have my Lehigh engineering degree I'll get back to you.
Wow dude. Lehigh. You must be the smartest person on the forum.

[J.C.]

They make life more convenient for people, hence why they continue to buy them. Welcome to capitalism.


Oh free market, is there any problem you can't fix?

[brook183]

eScDfYzMEEw

I couldn't even listen to this. Trying to save endangered species is "interfering with nature?" Doesn't he realize that we've been "interfering with nature" for the past 200 years and that is why there is an increased rate of species becoming endangered/extinct?

[perceptrons]

Yup, and the pollution and fuel the recycling trucks and plants use pretty much nullifies any of the good recycling does in the first place.
:shrug:
Aren't they usually on the same truck as the garbage?

[Drow Swordsman]

Yes.

[popdisaster00]

Would any of you drink out of the Hudson?

Thought so. Bottled water it is.
Yeah..I can guarantee that no one in this thread would enjoy the water that comes through the tap in my apartment. It tastes terrrrrible.

A purifier is a good option, though.

[saysmydoctor]

Yeah..I can guarantee that no one in this thread would enjoy the water that comes through the tap in my apartment. It tastes terrrrrible.

A purifier is a good option, though.
No, the choice is between drinking out of the Hudson and bottled water, can't you read?

:rolleyes:

[popdisaster00]

The thing is, there are just so many other things we buy that are packaged in plastic too. I know that water is the target simply because you can get it free from your tap so why waste the plastic on it, but everyone posting in this thread needs to take a look around the room that they're sitting in right now and see how many things are either made of plastic or were originally packaged in it.

[salt1384]

I love bottled water....it's so convenient!

[caveBEAR]

Aren't they usually on the same truck as the garbage?

Not always. Around my town there's recycling and garbage, and they're not interconnected. Different nights, different trucks, etc.

Don't know how it goes in other towns.

[captivewear]

The thing is, there are just so many other things we buy that are packaged in plastic too. I know that water is the target simply because you can get it free from your tap so why waste the plastic on it, but everyone posting in this thread needs to take a look around the room that they're sitting in right now and see how many things are either made of plastic or were originally packaged in it.
Couldn't agree more but targeting food and drinking products that actually harm people and cause cancer is more important. Bottle water has to be one of the worse products ever used that 90% of people don't know is bad. I think it is a good idea to start pushing new products that will eliminate the need to rely on oil and use of harmful products.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

I love bottled water....it's so convenient!

Invest in a PUR water filter ($26) and a Nalgene bottle ($8) = $34 (as oppose to spending $1.50 a day for bottled water)

[muttley]

Not always. Around my town there's recycling and garbage, and they're not interconnected. Different nights, different trucks, etc.

Don't know how it goes in other towns.
That's how it goes down over here. How it was in Southern California, too.

[konvalbr]

how about instead of whining about it on a forum you go out and actually do something about it? oh i forgot that requires you to do something.

[J.C.]

how about instead of whining about it on a forum you go out and actually do something about it? oh i forgot that requires you to do something.

Someone chisel this baby into Mount RushSNAP.

[perceptrons]

Not always. Around my town there's recycling and garbage, and they're not interconnected. Different nights, different trucks, etc.

Don't know how it goes in other towns.
Either way, citation needed on the claim.

[jawstheme]

how about instead of whining about it on a forum you go out and actually do something about it? oh i forgot that requires you to do something.

Because educating and raising awareness isn't doing anything?

[perceptrons]

Because educating and raising awareness isn't doing anything?
Don't be stupid, discussion is worthless.

[Jefferson Rank]

Yes.

The dorkiness of your username cracked me up. Nice job.

[Drow Swordsman]

The dorkiness of your username cracked me up. Nice job.

You're welcome! I've had it since I was 13 and just haven't had a desire to change it.

[caveBEAR]

Either way, citation needed on the claim.

I wouldn't be able to, it's more just a 'I see the garbage truck on Tuesday' and 'I see the recycling truck on Thursday' kind of thing. I assume they both use a lot of gas, and I assume they both go separate places, but I'll never know.
:shrug:

[perceptrons]

I wouldn't be able to, it's more just a 'I see the garbage truck on Tuesday' and 'I see the recycling truck on Thursday' kind of thing. I assume they both use a lot of gas, and I assume they both go separate places, but I'll never know.
:shrug:
No, citation needed on:

Yup, and the pollution and fuel the recycling trucks and plants use pretty much nullifies any of the good recycling does in the first place.
:shrug:

[caveBEAR]

No, citation needed on:

Ooooh. I forgot where I heard/read that, lemme see if I can track it down. My apologies for making it sound so definite.

[salt1384]

Invest in a PUR water filter ($26) and a Nalgene bottle ($8) = $34 (as oppose to spending $1.50 a day for bottled water)

Haha i have both of those. I don't mean i use bottled water everyday, it's just that when i need water and i forgot to bring some with me, i buy a bottle.

[InTheatersNow]

I am surprised so many people still use the plastic bottles, so many better alternatives.

What are some of those alternatives?

[InTheatersNow]

They taste like shit, and only idiots who don't realize this buy bottled water.

You are an idiot if you think you can tell the difference between tap and bottled.

[Scrandon]

You are an idiot if you think you can tell the difference between tap and bottled.
No, he just lives in a place where rivers run pure - straight from the heavens.

[mattyrocks]

No, he just lives in a place where rivers run pure - straight from the heavens.

LOLZ.

[open mind]

some areas of the country have become so polluted that bottled water has become a necessity for the people living in them so i couldn't get behind a total ban.

water filters do not filter a large amount of industrial chemicals.

[StephenYoung]

You are an idiot if you think you can tell the difference between tap and bottled.

No, I use Brita.


Bottled water tastes really gross. Don't they add minerals and what not? There's a clear difference, and I can't stand bottled water.

[.ALEXisonfire.]

My university's paper actually just ran articles about this.

http://www.martlet.ca/martlet/article/uvsp-uvss-want-move-towards-bottled-water-ban/

http://www.martlet.ca/martlet/article/ill-conceived-bottled-water-ban-will-be-bane/

[JamesBond]

paying for water is like paying for oxygen- stupid.
with that said, learn to filter water

[boxingwithstars]

I don't know the last time I drank a bottled water, I take my own reusable water bottle with me everywhere and drink out of that. So sure, get rid of them.

[open mind]

people who think that using an otc water filter means that they aren't potentially ingesting any number of the thousands of industrial chemicals and traces of innumerable prescription drugs that have gotten into our water supply are incredibly naive.

[Macbeth.]

Water bottles are the best!

[Smash Adams]

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Latest-News-Wires/2011/0315/Pepsi-bottles-no-more-plastic
seems relevant, Pepsi claims they're phasing out plastic bottles

[zion the lion]

Because educating and raising awareness isn't doing anything?

I learned literally nothing from this thread. In fact it only reinforced my belief that we should just let this species die out if we really want to help this planet, and that we should never ever ever do any type of space colonization.

[jawstheme]

I learned literally nothing from this thread. In fact it only reinforced my belief that we should just let this species die out if we really want to help this planet, and that we should never ever ever do any type of space colonization.

What in the fucking hell are you talking about?

[zion the lion]

What in the fucking hell are you talking about?

Nevermind.

[caveBEAR]

What in the fucking hell are you talking about?

We pollute, and therefore shouldn't colonize Mars. What don't you follow?
X-)

[jawstheme]

We pollute, and therefore shouldn't colonize Mars. What don't you follow?
X-)

Haha, actually I see her argument a little bit now when you put it like that. A little extreme I think, but at least I see it.

[StillTrying1288]

I'm gonna enjoy teraforming mars and polluting it with water bottles...but seriously I stopped using water bottles a while ago, much easier to just fill my water canister and much cheaper.

[EasySkankin]

But of course, the market's so perfect, people will magically realize buying water bottles is wasteful spending and capitalism will save the earth!

oh, wait...

[zion the lion]

We pollute, and therefore shouldn't colonize Mars. What don't you follow?
X-)

Yeah because we're never going to get to the point where we need to leave this planet. I was basically saying that the damage is done, unless we get hit with a really bad solar flare or we end up with a nuclear attack (which I think is really likely) we are going to continue the pollution and continue fucking the place up. I'm at the point where I dont give a fuck about the environment and I know a lot of other people who feel the same way. Banning plastic bottles isnt going to fix anything.


And not Mars, why the hell would you want to colonize Mars?

edit: or a zombie apocalypse, you cant really pollute much in that situation.

[sjb2k1]

Durham tap water likes to flirt with disaster a lot of the time, but it tastes fine. The only time I drink bottled water is at work, and they make us recycle.

[jawstheme]

Yeah because we're never going to get to the point where we need to leave this planet. I was basically saying that the damage is done, unless we get hit with a really bad solar flare or we end up with a nuclear attack (which I think is really likely) we are going to continue the pollution and continue fucking the place up. I'm at the point where I dont give a fuck about the environment and I know a lot of other people who feel the same way. Banning plastic bottles isnt going to fix anything.


And not Mars, why the hell would you want to colonize Mars?

edit: or a zombie apocalypse, you cant really pollute much in that situation.

Banning plastic bottles would help. If we get to a point where we become environmentally conscious enough to be aware of and prevent environmental impacts of all situations we could survive on this planet, or even carry it over to colonizing space. You don't have to go to the extreme of saying you want our species to die out. Environmental awareness has increased tremendously over the last 20 years.
Also, it seems backwards to say you think we should die off because we're fucking up the environment, and then say you don't give a fuck about the environment.

[StillTrying1288]

Banning plastic bottles would help. If we get to a point where we become environmentally conscious enough to be aware of and prevent environmental impacts of all situations we could survive on this planet, or even carry it over to colonizing space. You don't have to go to the extreme of saying you want our species to die out. Environmental awareness has increased tremendously over the last 20 years.
Also, it seems backwards to say you think we should die off because we're fucking up the environment, and then say you don't give a fuck about the environment.

So true.

[zion the lion]

Banning plastic bottles would help. If we get to a point where we become environmentally conscious enough to be aware of and prevent environmental impacts of all situations we could survive on this planet, or even carry it over to colonizing space. You don't have to go to the extreme of saying you want our species to die out. Environmental awareness has increased tremendously over the last 20 years.
Also, it seems backwards to say you think we should die off because we're fucking up the environment, and then say you don't give a fuck about the environment.

What would I drink my water out of?
And I dont want us to die out just because we're fucking up the environment, I just dont think we need to go on forever or that we should leave this planet.