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Here's a good question that I hope hasn't been done before. Who do you think are the top 3 songwriters right now?
Here's mine:
1. Kris Roe (I swear he writes about my friggin life. I know i sound like jason now)
2. Matt Pryor (Even his stuff with new ams. is incredible)
3. Davey Havok (deep shit)
neb nawoc
08/02/03, 01:40 PM
Ben Harper.
surfwaxsideshow
08/02/03, 01:43 PM
well of right now it's tough to say but i would have to say my favorite songwriter is Rivers Cuomo of Weezer. Though their more recent stuff has kind of sucked, tons of what he wrote before the green album is golden. For bands doing well right now, Jesse of Brand New would have to be my favorite.
MaybeOneDay
08/02/03, 01:59 PM
I don't really concentrate on how well the lyrics are written, or how much originality is in the song or how they use descriptions or whatever. i basically focus on how well they get the point of the song across. i don't really have a favourite song writer, but i really like the singer from fm static's writing and the guy from billy talent. right now anyways.
RUFiOOOOOOO
08/02/03, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by omegaX
Kris Roe (I swear he writes about my friggin life. I know i sound like jason now)
I agree whole-heartedly!
StartingLine182
08/02/03, 02:25 PM
Kris Roe and many more, but im too lazy right now.
wadejunkie
08/02/03, 02:52 PM
kris roe is the corniest writer ever
conor oberst, yes
guy who is KoLS
slug
eminem
goldfinger55
08/02/03, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by wadejunkie
conor oberst, yes
yes. and jesse lacey
unsung_zero02
08/02/03, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by goldfinger55
jesse lacey
Clarett'sGreyGoose
08/02/03, 05:21 PM
Matt Skiba
Conor Oberst, though i'm not a fan of Bright Eyes or Desperacidos, has some damn good lyrics.
NicoleC
08/02/03, 05:22 PM
i hafta say jesse lacey just cuz im more obsessed with deja entendu than i am with sonic.
pUnKrOcKgIrL917
08/02/03, 05:31 PM
3. jesse from brand new
2. conor oberst
::drumroll::
1. john mayer....the one and only.
chopstyks
08/02/03, 05:36 PM
Conor Oberst, Tim Kasher, I'm quite fond of Thom Yorke's lyrics too...that's all I can think of now.
Clarett'sGreyGoose
08/02/03, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by pUnKrOcKgIrL917
3. jesse from brand new
2. conor oberst
::drumroll::
1. john mayer....the one and only.
your name makes my eyes hurt.
stratdude
08/02/03, 06:10 PM
matt skiba
tom delonge (no, i'm not kidding)
rivers cuamo
dave grohl
brad nowell
tim armstrong
chris from Saves The Day (forgot his last name)
wadejunkie
08/02/03, 06:21 PM
oh yeah
jesse lacey
tim kasher
john mayer actually isnt bad
Originally posted by chopstyks
Conor Oberst, Tim Kasher, I'm quite fond of Thom Yorke's lyrics too...that's all I can think of now.
I love you.
lollirot
08/03/03, 04:30 PM
Conor Oberst
ThriceOwnsYou
08/03/03, 05:12 PM
haha. John Mayer.... possibly the worst song writer ever. "your body is a wonderland" makes me sick its so bad. But seriously, Dustin Kensrue is the best out right now, hands down, then maybe Geoff from Thursday.
I don't know about "best hands down". Thrice's lyrics really aren't that good.
ThriceOwnsYou
08/03/03, 05:18 PM
yes they are
Wow. I love how people think out there posts and actually back up their opinion.
nostalgia
08/03/03, 05:23 PM
TRUE FRIENDS STAB YOU IN THE FRONT!
ThriceOwnsYou
08/03/03, 05:32 PM
Wow. I love how people think out there posts and actually back up their opinion.
I don't see youbacking up that opinion.
There was no reason to back it up. It's obvious that Thrice's lyrics aren't good. Just read them.
ThriceOwnsYou
08/03/03, 05:38 PM
There was no reason to back it up. It's obvious that Thrice's lyrics aren't good. Just read them.
So only others have to back up their opinions? Sounds hypocritical to me. But thank you for the tip, I will now go and read Thrice's lyrics for the first time....wait. Tell me Kevin, what is so "obviously" not good about Thrice's lyrics, also, how are Conor Oberst's better?
BuriedAlive
08/03/03, 05:39 PM
I don't know about "best hands down". Thrice's lyrics really aren't that good.
finally someone agrees with me, kevin your a smart guy.
hot damn!
08/03/03, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by chopstyks
Conor Oberst, Tim Kasher, I'm quite fond of Thom Yorke's lyrics too...that's all I can think of now. i'd like to add ben barnett to that equation
I am pretty sure I backed up my opinion. Just read them, they are unoriginal and not well thought out. How about this for example?
can we,
can we kill each other quickly?
quick enough so i won't feel it?
a shot of strobe light anesthia
and I'll be fine
as I begin to feel cold
my hands are shaking from fear,
white from clutching my pride,
red from cutting you,
and blue from telling lies.
Nearly every band, like Thrice, has so called, intelligent lyrics, like these.
Conor Oberst's lyrics on the other hand, are inredible. The man is a genius.
Let's see, can Dustin write something like this?
I have a friend, he is made mostly of pain. He wakes up, drives to work,
and then straight back home again. He once cut one of my nightmares out of paper.
I thought it was beautiful, I put it on a record cover.
And I tried to tell him he had a sense of color and composition so magnificent.
And he said "Thank you, please but your flattery is truly not becoming me.
Your eyes are poor. You are blind. You see, no beauty could have come from me.
I am a waste of breath, of space, of time."
I knew a woman, she was dignified and true. Her love for her man was one of her many virtues.
Until one day, she found out that he had lied and decided the rest of her life,
from that point on would be a lie. But she was grateful for everything that had happened.
And she was anxious for all that would come next. But then she wept.
What did you expect? In that big, old house with all those cars she kept.
"Oh!" and "such is life," she often said. With one day leading her to the next,
you get a little closer to your death, which was fine with her.
She never got upset and with all the days she may have left,
she would never clean another mess or fold his shirts or look her best.
She was free to waste away alone.
Last night, my brother he got drunk and drove. And this cop pulled him off to the side of the road.
And he said, "Officer! Officer! You have got the wrong man.
No, no, I'm a student of medicine, the son of a banker, you don't understand!"
The cop said, "No one got hurt, you should be thankful. And you carelessness,
it is something awful. And no, I can't just let you go. And though your father's name is known,
your decisions are yours alone. You are nothing but a stepping stone
on a path to debt, to loss, to shame."
The last few months I have been living with this couple.
Yeah, you know, the kind that buy everything in doubles. They fit together, like a puzzle.
I love their love and I am thankful that someone actually
receives the prize that was promised by all those fairy tales that drugged us.
And they still do me. I'm sick, lonely, no laurel tree, just green envy.
Will my number come up eventually? Like Love is some kind of lottery,
where you can scratch and see what is underneath. It's "Sorry",
just one cherry, "Play Again." Get lucky.
So I have been hanging out down by the train's depot. No, I don't ride.
I just sit and watch the people there. They remind me of wind up cars in motion.
The way they spin and turn and jockey for positions.
And I want to scream out that it is all nonsense.
And that their lives are one track, and can't they see how it is all pointless?
But then, my knees give under me. My head feels weak and
suddenly it is clear to see that it is not them but me, who has lost my self-identity.
As I hide behind these books I read, while scribbling my poetry,
like art could save a wretch like me, with some ideal ideology that no one can hope to achieve.
And I am never real; it is just a sketch of me.
And everything I have is trite and cheap and a waste of paint, of tape, of time.
Sometimes I park my car down my the cathedral, where floodlights point up at the steeples.
Choir practice is filling up with people. I hear the sound escaping as an echo.
Sloping off the ceiling at an angle. When voices blend they sound like angels.
I hope there is still some room left in the middle.
But when I lift my voice up now to reach them. The range is too high, way up in heaven.
So I hold my tongue, forget the song, tie my shoe and start walking off.
And try to just keep moving on, with my broken heart and my absent God
and I have no faith but it is all I want, to be loved ad believe in my soul.
Just because some "generic hardcore" band can put together some "deep" lyrics, doesn't make them good.
ThriceOwnsYou
08/03/03, 05:56 PM
I'm sorry that the metaphor in Kill Me Quickly is above you. The lyrics you posted were horrible. Writing a whiny short story doesn't make Conor Oberst a good lyricist. In fact it pisses me off you would even consider Dustin and him comparable. Thrice's lyrics don't evolve around the lead singer's neverending depression, probably the reason you can't relate. If you think whing and crying are better than these, you are FUCKED.
to what end do we
proceed so boldly
if all we are is
chemical reactions
and what world have you
deftly sold me
if you reduce me
if I have no soul to touch
no heart to love
no evil to rise up above
no angels and no ghosts
no real victories to toast
if you believe that this is true
then I must ask
to what end do you proceed
NO FIRE IN OUR EYES
NO STEEL IN OUR HEARTS
NO MAGIC IN OUR SONGS
ARE WE JUST EMPTY VESSELS
did I not feel your love
did I not feel your hate
and did my heart not beat
and did my heart not break
and are these tears for naught
and are these worlds in vain
if this is all we are then what
HAVE WE TO GAIN
What of all the art and books
music and poetry
What of all our memories
What of OUR HOPES AND DREAMS
They hold no value then
We hold no faith but greed
So I must ask you
To what end do we proceed?
So all Conor does is wine and cry? Is your brain even capable of appreciating his music?
ThriceOwnsYou
08/03/03, 06:02 PM
Just because some "generic hardcore" band can put together some "deep" lyrics, doesn't make them good.
HAHAHAHA. Thrice aren't even hardcore, let alone "generic". Name another band that sounds like Thrice. What, can't? Even if you do manage to find one, it's because they are ripping off Thrice. Too bad you can't say the same about Conor Oberst, his lyrics and music are both uninspired and annoying, not to mention generic. NEWS FLASH WALTER CRONKITE: whining about breakups isn't innovative.
BuriedAlive
08/03/03, 06:04 PM
kill me quickly isnt whining about a break up?
ThriceOwnsYou
08/03/03, 06:06 PM
So all Conor does is wine and cry? Is your brain even capable of appreciating his music?
Yes, and no. I'm not saying he isn't talented, I'm saying Thrice totally owns him. I'm not a fan of his music personally so maybe I am a bit biased, but forgive me for pointing out that all his lyrics seem to be depressing and self-pitying.
BuriedAlive
08/03/03, 06:07 PM
the songs i heard by thrice he was whining about a breakup.
First off, I never said Thrice was a bad band. I simply said that Dustin's lyrics weren't the best. Me calling them "generic hardcore" simply means that they incorporate uneccessary and fake, hardcore "glamore", to try and come off as a hard band. Disagree, then cool, it's your opinion.
Obviously you have never listened to a Bright Eyes album if you think it's all whining about breakups.
TimexToxHodder
08/03/03, 06:10 PM
Andy Moore-Kane Hodder & Sorority House
Tyler Lewis-Time To Fly
Travis Shettle-Piebald
BustaNutz
08/03/03, 06:11 PM
Gavin Rossdale
Absolute Mest
08/03/03, 06:11 PM
Jesse Lacey
Kris Roe
someone else...
ThriceOwnsYou
08/03/03, 06:11 PM
the songs i heard by thrice he was whining about a breakup.
You have misinterpreted the songs then, beacuse while kill me quickly is talking about relationships, it doesn't come across as whining to me. But i would like to know what songs you have heard, because they would have to be extremely limited, being that only a couple songs have anything to do with that. Dustin does not 'whine" at all even if talking about relationships, while all conor oberst(and untold numbers of bands like his) does is whine.
BuriedAlive
08/03/03, 06:14 PM
anything that says kill me is whining. the title tells you hes whining. you are just way into thrice to realize that they whine alot. i dont like thrice. never have. and the looks of it never will.
ThriceOwnsYou
08/03/03, 06:20 PM
anything that says kill me is whining. the title tells you hes whining. you are just way into thrice to realize that they whine alot. i dont like thrice. never have. and the looks of it never will.
They don't "whine alot". Even if you construed kill me quickly as whining, thats only one song. Name others, since every song you have heard Dustin is whining. Not liking Thrice isn't an excuse to say they whine.
Originally posted by kevin
First off, I never said Thrice was a bad band. I simply said that Dustin's lyrics weren't the best. Me calling them "generic hardcore" simply means that they incorporate uneccessary and fake, hardcore "glamore", to try and come off as a hard band. Disagree, then cool, it's your opinion.
Obviously you have never listened to a Bright Eyes album if you think it's all whining about breakups.
ThriceOwnsYou
08/03/03, 06:23 PM
why did you quote yourself.
BuriedAlive
08/03/03, 06:23 PM
i didnt say they whined in every song. but most yes. and i dont no the titles of the songs. im not a fan of course i wouldnt know the title.
Originally posted by ThriceOwnsYou
why did you quote yourself.
So you can respond.
ThriceOwnsYou
08/03/03, 06:39 PM
First off, I never said Thrice was a bad band. I simply said that Dustin's lyrics weren't the best. Me calling them "generic hardcore" simply means that they incorporate uneccessary and fake, hardcore "glamore", to try and come off as a hard band. Disagree, then cool, it's your opinion.
First off, I'm glad you don't dislike Thrice. I only said his lyrics were the best. By "unnecessary and fake hardcore glamore" I will assume you mean screaming, heavy breakdowns and guitar parts, double kick-drums etc. Just because they don't sound the way you want them to, doesn't mean they sound "fake". Screaming etc. is used to show emotion not just "to come across as a hard band", because I'm pretty sure that isn't their goal. What would they have to do to not become generic, invent there own sound? Too late. Thrice are not hardcore, they are not punk, they are not pop, they are not rock. They blend elements of all those seamlessly into what anyone can recognize as they're own sound.
Cool. I believe this argument is over.
Originally posted by stratdude
tom delonge (no, i'm not kidding)
When he writes seriously, he writes great. I gotta agree with you there.
And if i made a #4, it would be jesse.
ThriceOwnsYou
08/03/03, 06:40 PM
agreed.
ThriceOwnsYou
08/03/03, 06:41 PM
Cool. I believe this argument is over.
i meant agreed to that, not the tom delonge thing.
Originally posted by ThriceOwnsYou
i meant agreed to that, not the tom delonge thing.
Damn, you two went all out, and that was a really long argument to read. I'd hafta side with you, cause I love thrice. I love dustin's lyrics, and they only got better over time.
wadejunkie
08/03/03, 07:11 PM
BURN WITCHES BURN WITCHES BURN WITCHES BAWDGSDGSDGASGSDGSGA
THE BLOOD IN MY HEART
IT POURS OUT IN MASSES
AND SHIELDS UP MY EYES
ANGEL COME SAVE ME TONIGHT
STAB ME ONCE QUICKLY
AS I THANK YOU FOR BEING
THERE FOR ME TONIGHT AS ALWAYS
BURN WITCHES BURN WITCHES BURN WITCHES BURN ADSFASFFFFFFUSAFJKASLK
THE WATERS SO SHALLOW
IM DROWNING IN INNOCENSE
YOUR GUILTY OF MY CRIIIIIIIIIIME
isnt that a thrice song
ThriceOwnsYou
08/03/03, 07:55 PM
BURN WITCHES BURN WITCHES BURN WITCHES BAWDGSDGSDGASGSDGSGA
THE BLOOD IN MY HEART
IT POURS OUT IN MASSES
AND SHIELDS UP MY EYES
ANGEL COME SAVE ME TONIGHT
STAB ME ONCE QUICKLY
AS I THANK YOU FOR BEING
THERE FOR ME TONIGHT AS ALWAYS
BURN WITCHES BURN WITCHES BURN WITCHES BURN ADSFASFFFFFFUSAFJKASLK
THE WATERS SO SHALLOW
IM DROWNING IN INNOCENSE
YOUR GUILTY OF MY CRIIIIIIIIIIME
isnt that a thrice song
hahaha nice.
Originally posted by wadejunkie
BURN WITCHES BURN WITCHES BURN WITCHES BAWDGSDGSDGASGSDGSGA
THE BLOOD IN MY HEART
IT POURS OUT IN MASSES
AND SHIELDS UP MY EYES
ANGEL COME SAVE ME TONIGHT
STAB ME ONCE QUICKLY
AS I THANK YOU FOR BEING
THERE FOR ME TONIGHT AS ALWAYS
BURN WITCHES BURN WITCHES BURN WITCHES BURN ADSFASFFFFFFUSAFJKASLK
THE WATERS SO SHALLOW
IM DROWNING IN INNOCENSE
YOUR GUILTY OF MY CRIIIIIIIIIIME
isnt that a thrice song
I love that line ADSFASFFFFFFUSAF JKASLK!!!!
That's gonna become a political chant.
Most of mine were mentioned, so I'll add some obvious ones:
Bob Dylan
Tom Waits
Keith Richards
I don't really like Thrice, and find their lyrics to be fairly simplistic. They don't even bother to bust out of a mundane rhyme scheme. At least Conor tries different things.
xxSpOoKsxx
08/03/03, 09:05 PM
probably the singer from five pointe o right now!
MSIndulgence
01/22/10, 07:37 PM
Justin Pierre.
Next would be William Beckett and Max Bemis. Tough. But as of now it is definitely Justin.
Casey's Dad
01/22/10, 07:44 PM
psh... Will Sheff
I'm surrounded, each doorway covered
by at least twenty men.
And they're going to take me and throw me in prison.
I ain't coming back again.
When I was younger, handsomer and stronger,
I felt like I could do anything.
But all of these people making all these faces
didn't seem like my kith and kin.
Colin Kincaid from the twelfth grade,
I guess you could say he was my best friend.
He lived in a big tall house out on Westfall
where we would hide when the rain rolled in.
We went out one night and took a flashlight,
out with these two girls Colin knew from Kenwood Christian.
One was named Laurie, that's what the story
said next week in the Guardian.
And when I killed her it was so easy
that I wanted to kill her again.
I got down on both of my knees and...
She ain't coming back again.
Now, with all these cameras focused on my face,
you'd think they could see it through my skin.
They're looking for evil, thinking they can trace it,
but evil don’t look like anything.
duhpunk
01/22/10, 07:48 PM
shit. 6 and a half year bump
PenThrive
01/22/10, 07:51 PM
Morrissey
invincibleXL
01/22/10, 08:16 PM
butch walker
marshall mathers
tim pagnotta
bert mccracken
waymon boone
mitch allan
ajay and jeremy popoff
max collins
to name a few
oh, forgot about max martin..........pause
Brokenhill
01/22/10, 08:19 PM
http://mitkadem.homestead.com/files/floyd/roger_waters_Greatphoto.jpg
TangledUp
01/22/10, 08:46 PM
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/4695238/Bob+Dylan+1962_4thStapartment_gibso n.jpg
Forever he will be my choice.
therukus
01/23/10, 04:24 AM
jesse lacey
elliott smith.
cryates
01/23/10, 07:15 AM
psh... Will Sheff
I'm surrounded, each doorway covered
by at least twenty men.
And they're going to take me and throw me in prison.
I ain't coming back again.
When I was younger, handsomer and stronger,
I felt like I could do anything.
But all of these people making all these faces
didn't seem like my kith and kin.
Colin Kincaid from the twelfth grade,
I guess you could say he was my best friend.
He lived in a big tall house out on Westfall
where we would hide when the rain rolled in.
We went out one night and took a flashlight,
out with these two girls Colin knew from Kenwood Christian.
One was named Laurie, that's what the story
said next week in the Guardian.
And when I killed her it was so easy
that I wanted to kill her again.
I got down on both of my knees and...
She ain't coming back again.
Now, with all these cameras focused on my face,
you'd think they could see it through my skin.
They're looking for evil, thinking they can trace it,
but evil don’t look like anything.
Holy shit yes! Westfall is such an amazing song.
FeynmanWannabe
01/23/10, 07:16 AM
the bearded one
SophGod
01/23/10, 07:41 AM
Geoff Rickly
Brian Aubert
Dustin Kensrue
Conor Oberst
Jesse Lacey
Andy Hull
Matt Skiba
Dan Andriano
Matt Embree
cryates
01/23/10, 08:28 AM
<---- Maybe this dude. :shrug:
Oh_Snap!:O
01/23/10, 08:31 AM
Ian Curtis
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