Lead Singer of Mest Charged with Murder

[Jason Tate]

The ex-lead singer of Mest (http://www.mestcrapp.com) (Tony Lovato (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofi le&friendid=1743818)) has been accused of stabbing a man to death (http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=2765742&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.2.1).

[thatwasamoment]

That's a headline you never expect to see.

[The Revisionist]

Got to get back in the news somehow, right?

[Paul Tao]

Remember, folks, to reserve judgment until actual facts start coming out. Innocent until proven guilty.

[Burning Star IV]

Wow. Hxc.

[Melissa Johnson]

Whoa.

[ironk]

thats MEST up

[Jason Tate]

To be fair, was Mest ever in the news?

Well, aside from one or two memebers being involved in the KKK.

Anyway, I will resume laughing.









Hah.
Not sure how it's funny on any level. Someone's life ended. If it was "self defense" or whatever remains to be seen -- but someone DIED. I have a hard time finding that "funny."

From Wikipedia: On March 25, 2007, Tony Lovato was arrested by LAPD and held on 1,000,000 bail. He is accused of murdering his ex-girlfriend's new boyfriend, Wayne Hughes.

[NJUNDERDOG]

accusations of murder even if found innocent always follow you around and haunt you down the road

[-Aaron-]

Thats pretty br00t@l.

[Chris Fallon]

Holy shitballs. That's nuts.

[The Revisionist]

thats MEST upIf it's true, then he's one FUCT UP KID.

[ClemTiger0408]

I guess he won't be up on the rooftop listening to punk rock anymore

[emerson1892]

I'll bet his boys in Good Charlotte are gonna bail him out

[Jason Tate]

A million bail? That's insane.

[emerson1892]

I guess he won't be up on the rooftop listening to punk rock anymore


This thread will be filled with witty sayings hahaha

[i12punk]

Can we stop making mest jokes? I agree with Tate, this isn't a joke, nor is it funny.

[Hainzey X]

accusations of murder even if found innocent always follow you around and haunt you down the road

very true.

[The Revisionist]

You guys remember that song "Jaded" from a few years ago with the dude from Good Charlotte? Man, that was bad.

I sort of feel bad for Mest, it has to suck releasing four albums and basically staying at the exact same level of "fame" throughout.

[Unclear Lies]

"25...25 to life, to life, to life, to life....yeah 25....25 to life..."


Dang...if that wikipedia is true...it would be a similar story to that song...

[The Revisionist]

And I know this because I've seen the "sai" comment on another board.Hahahahahahaha AMB love <3333

[emerson1892]

It's a good thing he didn't kill one of their girlfriends.

They have brass knuckles


Well duh, that shows how hard core they are

[The Revisionist]

A million bail? That's insane.Yeah, I couldn't believe that either. Do you know if there's a "general" pricing range for murder bail? I never would have thought of it being so high.

[starinyourfire]

wow

[Adrian Villagomez]

Well, aside from one or two memebers being involved in the KKK.Seriously? KKK?

This is some heavy late night news.

[Hainzey X]

A million bail? That's insane.

jason, im not familiar with legal jail holding or anything like that but lets say he does put up that million dollers bail and your found innocent. that must be shitty to have to pay all that money when you didnt deserve to ever be there in the first place. do you feel like that someone in that situation would deserve to be in anwyway ?

[Jason Tate]

Yeah, I couldn't believe that either. Do you know if there's a "general" pricing range for murder bail? I never would have thought of it being so high.
Not sure, I've been reading online to try and find out.

http://people.howstuffworks.com/bail.htm

[Burnout2888]

He does seem somewhat believeable though - he called the police after the incident, stayed there and immediately surrendered himself. They say he is fully cooperating too. Who knows. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

[niveK]

Yeah, I couldn't believe that either. Do you know if there's a "general" pricing range for murder bail? I never would have thought of it being so high.

It is LA though, so everythign costs more

[notoaststereo]

wow. ive heard that is guy is a tool and a jackass... but murder is something else.

[Jason Tate]

jason, im not familiar with legal jail holding or anything like that but lets say he does put up that million dollers bail and your found innocent. that must be shitty to have to pay all that money when you didnt deserve to ever be there in the first place. do you feel like that someone in that situation would deserve to be in anwyway ?
When you show up at court, from what I understand, you get the money back.

[thegamethelight]

if somebody stabs somebody over a girl, its funny cuz they are that stupid.

[Scoot]

accusations of murder even if found innocent always follow you around and haunt you down the road

I don't know, Snoop seems to be doing alright.

[Jason Tate]

If this was Punknews.Org, this would be the SUPREME make a sandwich thread.

From Wikipedia:

The "I'm Going To Get A Sandwich" Meme
In September 2002, it was announced that Fenix Tx were breaking up. In the original news story, news editor Adam White expressed a lack of interest and empathy by writing the following simple statement:

Our comrade-in-arms Timmy over at PunkBands.com has confirmed with MCA Records that Fenix Tx has broken up... I'm going to get a sandwich. [11]

The joke became popular among readers posting in the comment section, and was initially used and reused to punctuate the insignificance of a generally disliked yet well-known band's break up. Since then the joke has caught on to the point where anytime any band announces their break up, it is inevitable that someone will reference the joke, whether consensus warrants it or not.
I love that they have tried to take a joke that's been commonly deployed by 3rd rate comedians on Comedy Central for the past 10 or so years -- and take credit for it.

Weird.

[notoaststereo]

I don't know, Snoop seems to be doing alright.

snoop is a differnt story.

[emerson1892]

jason, im not familiar with legal jail holding or anything like that but lets say he does put up that million dollers bail and your found innocent. that must be shitty to have to pay all that money when you didnt deserve to ever be there in the first place. do you feel like that someone in that situation would deserve to be in anwyway ?


I think and I could be completely fucking wrong, but I believe that bail is to insure that you will show up to court and you get it all back when you do

[Jason Tate]

His myspace:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofi le&friendid=1743818

[The Revisionist]

His myspace:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofi le&friendid=1743818Hooooooboy this should be interesting for the next couple days.

From earlier today:

" hey tonyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

how have you been doing??

greatfully awesome i hope!

chat back sometime...."

[Tony]

jason, im not familiar with legal jail holding or anything like that but lets say he does put up that million dollers bail and your found innocent. that must be shitty to have to pay all that money when you didnt deserve to ever be there in the first place. do you feel like that someone in that situation would deserve to be in anwyway ?

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bail) is your friend:

In most cases bail money will be returned at the end of the trial, if all court appearances are made, no matter whether the person is found guilty or not guilty of the crime accused.

Anyway, this shit is crazy. I loved Mest's first 2 albums, but I figured we'd probably never hear anything from any of those guys again.

Anyone else notice how they tried to sensationalize the story by playing up his punkness?

[thebestkylever]

holy fuckin shit.

[azrielen]

O.o

D:

I'll admit I have no clue about MEST or their music, but I've seen Tony around Warped Tour and WOW. Unexpected is an understatement. He always seemed like an OK dude. I hope it was self-defense or whatever and everything comes out all right. At the very least it says something that he was the one who called 911.

[Jason Tate]

That's like you stealing news and mp3's from other sites without giving credit. Not to mention, being a shill for anyone that gives you a dollar.

Someone needs to put that in the Wikipedia entry for this website because that is true.

But I digress, back to shittyness known as Mest.
Stealing "news"? 1) That's not possible. 2) That's stupid.

And linking to an mp3 is not illegal or an act requiring "credit" - that's why it is a link. If something can be found via google, and linked via google, why can't I link to it? It might not be proper netiquette -- but it's not "stealing."

[thatwasamoment]

Most of his friends don't seem too bothered with the situation.

[Adrian Villagomez]

His Myspace headline: "Its easy to love your friends..learn to love your enemies. they only hate you because they envy you.."

Evidence?

[_all_star_me_]

To be fair, was Mest ever in the news?

Well, aside from one or two memebers being involved in the KKK.

Anyway, I will resume laughing.









Hah.

kkk? whats the story with that?

[Tmovielife16]

oh snap

[_all_star_me_]

Yeah, I couldn't believe that either. Do you know if there's a "general" pricing range for murder bail? I never would have thought of it being so high.

i thought it had something to do with your annual income or your tax or something.

[The Revisionist]

kkk? whats the story with that?http://www.jimdero.com/News2002/LiveApril5.htm

i thought it had something to do with your annual income or your tax or something.It's entirely possible, I really am clueless about this sort of stuff.

If that's true though, apparently Tony was much more blingin' than I thought.

[Nowisnotthetime]

isnt he related the good charlotte brothers?

[thebestkylever]

kkk? whats the story with that?

i think a few years back he was involved in some sort of white supremacy group. he eventually pulled his head out of his ass. it was not the kkk.

[NationalProduct]

wooooooooooooooow

[Tony]

I love that they have tried to take a joke that's been commonly deployed by 3rd rate comedians on Comedy Central for the past 10 or so years -- and take credit for it.

Weird.

In all fairness, nobody affiliated with the site ever (to my knowledge) took credit for coming up with it. In fact, I'd wager you'd have a hard time finding out who originally came up with such a general joke in the first place.

[TheBaroness]

A million bail? That's insane.

Murder is one of the few charges where the common law presumption is not in favor of granting bail. However, the amount of bail is not a form of punishment. Rather it is determined according to factors such as the severity of the offence, the likelihood of the accused absconding, character associations, home environment and background, strength of evidence against the accused, and any previously granted bail. I'm not too familiar with the American criminal justice system, but if an accused was asked to post $1mil for bail in this country it would be as a result of the accused posing a significant unacceptable risk in relation to any of the abovementioned facts which determine whether or not bail is to be granted and, if granted, the amount at which it is set.

jason, im not familiar with legal jail holding or anything like that but lets say he does put up that million dollers bail and your found innocent. that must be shitty to have to pay all that money when you didnt deserve to ever be there in the first place. do you feel like that someone in that situation would deserve to be in anwyway ?

when the accused shows up in court the money is refunded

I never imagined Tony Lovato would be helping me study for my Crim Procedure exam.

[_all_star_me_]

hes such a nice guy too..i met him like 4 yrs ago..im sure ..probably just trying to protect himself

he seemed pretty cool and called the cops and was co-operative.

[Jason Tate]

I suppose he wasn't granted one "Last Kiss".
http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Original_Photo/2005/03/08/1110298957_0741.jpg

[thegamethelight]

That's like you stealing news and mp3's from other sites without giving credit. Not to mention, being a shill for anyone that gives you a dollar.

Someone needs to put that in the Wikipedia entry for this website because that is true.


thank god, for a minute i started to feel like i was the only one who felt this way.

[The Revisionist]

I suppose he wasn't granted one "Last Kiss".Ehhhhh back to the drawing board?

[XGirlinAisle10]

Holy shit.

I really can't believe this.

[ApAthY]

that's my boy

[takeweakme]

just saw this dude out at metal skool a few weeks ago with his girlfriend.

[Poppunkkid182]

this is really shitty news....i hope everything goes ok for tony....i really miss mest too fyi.

[DeGausseR187]

I'm just wasting my time.
What's the dillio????

[HumMKE]

stabbing in self defense?? its not like he accidently fired a gun at someone and the person died. the dude "stabbed" someone to death, with a pocket knife. thats pretty brutal to be self defense. i'm no doctor, but i imagine it would take a while to kill someone with a swiss army knife.

i'm pretty sure that if i was in the middle of stabbing someone to death, i would have time to realize, "holy shit, i'm stabbing someone to death..."

[thegamethelight]

2) That's stupid.


hold your breath. i'll bet every penny to my name that if some label looking to promote a band you hate approached you (i.e. cute is what we aim for) and offered you the right amount of money you would allow them to use every square inch of this website. i cannot stand how you claim this is some hoenst news site, but on the flipside bands that you personally love (i.e. sherwood, the academy is, paramore) get way more coverage than other bands who are doing just as many things newsworthy. and sure, you don't personally post about some of the stuff (could be rohan, tony, anybody who posts), but since you do run the site you could put a stop to the excess news related to the previously mentioned artists as if anybody really gives a shit that the 4,675th installment of acadmey is tv is up for veiwing, just as you put a stop to things going up on the site that you aren't down with. (i.e. the whole i'm never posting about my american heart ever again because i'm a pussy and don't like it when people give me shit about what gets posted on my website), even though this is supposively a news website, which would involve things that you don't agree with or enjoy listening to. i can't wait till you complain about this in your "hot" journal.

[JunkBondTrader]

o wow, thats probably the last thing you expect to see.

[LPMagic]

While I'm out on tour, keep your hands off my girl. I got nothin.

- Jeff

[XGirlinAisle10]

i think a few years back he was involved in some sort of white supremacy group. he eventually pulled his head out of his ass. it was not the kkk.

Yea he was in a white supremacy group, but became wiser.

I don't know under what circumstances he joined but he left a long time ago.

I hope Tony is Ok this all kinda freaks me out a bit.

[krishasaheadake]

I refreshed the Fox 11 LA site until it showed up to submit the news here. But I figured a million people sumbitted it as well.

crazy news though. awful that someone lost their life

[AP_Punk]

http://www.jimdero.com/News2002/LiveApril5.htm

.

Damn, I did not know about that. Crazy.

[cory-182]

Tony Lovato was in a racist punk band when he was a teenager, so who knows.

[TheBaroness]

stabbing in self defense?? its not like he accidently fired a gun at someone and the person died. the dude "stabbed" someone to death, with a pocket knife. thats pretty brutal to be self defense. i'm no doctor, but i imagine it would take a while to kill someone with a swiss army knife.

i'm pretty sure that if i was in the middle of stabbing someone to death, i would have time to realize, "holy shit, i'm stabbing someone to death..."

self-defence and accident are not the same thing. accident means that there was no intention to commit harm occasioning death, whereas self-defence indicates that there was an intention to commit harm, but that this was occasioned out of necessity for ensuring the accused's own safety and bodily integrity remained intact.

[joshy hizzle]

either way this is completely unexpected

[feigningapology]

Fucked up to say the least. I still can't get the video to work, but I'm waiting for a response from his immediate family and likely Good Charlotte.

[thewk]

who expects to hear this?
very sad news, indeed.

[kevinhagan]

its kinda odd that tates gettin more hate in this thread than mest.

[Jason Tate]

hold your breath. i'll bet every penny to my name that if some label looking to promote a band you hate approached you (i.e. cute is what we aim for) and offered you the right amount of money you would allow them to use every square inch of this website.

No money from any band or label goes through me - so this would be an impossible situation. That's why the website is set up like it is -- by design. So, not only are you wrong (as I've turned down plenty of $ from plenty of sources) but the ads aren't even handled by me.


i cannot stand how you claim this is some hoenst news site, but on the flipside bands that you personally love (i.e. sherwood, the academy is, paramore) get way more coverage than other bands who are doing just as many things newsworthy.

1) Where did I claim it was "hoenst"? It's an editorial blog like message board. The connotation that goes with that description is most correct.

2) I can't stand Paramore.

3) What gets coverage is what we are submitted or I find while browsing the internet - the fans/users are the main force that dictate what is getting coverage on the website. Not me.


and sure, you don't personally post about some of the stuff (could be rohan, tony, anybody who posts), but since you do run the site you could put a stop to the excess news related to the previously mentioned artists as if anybody really gives a shit that the 4,675th installment of acadmey is tv is up for veiwing, just as you put a stop to things going up on the site that you aren't down with.

Users are given control (http://www.absolutepunk.net/profile.php?do=editoptions) over what bands they don't want to see news from.

(i.e. the whole i'm never posting about my american heart ever again because i'm a pussy and don't like it when people give me shit about what gets posted on my website),

Not the situation at all.

even though this is supposively a news website,

No, really it's not. It's a message board and as much a "news" website as Digg or Fark. You're holding us to a standard we don't hold for ourselves, never did, never plan to -- again, that's by design. So far, it's worked beautifully for us.

which would involve things that you don't agree with or enjoy listening to.

I post countless things about bands I don't enjoy listening to (very (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=223165) recent (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=223795) examples (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=223787)).

i can't wait till you complain about this in your "hot" journal.

Why would I complain about anything? I can simply respond to you.

[ApAthY]

stabbing in self defense?? its not like he accidently fired a gun at someone and the person died. the dude "stabbed" someone to death, with a pocket knife. thats pretty brutal to be self defense. i'm no doctor, but i imagine it would take a while to kill someone with a swiss army knife.

i'm pretty sure that if i was in the middle of stabbing someone to death, i would have time to realize, "holy shit, i'm stabbing someone to death..."

I hope you realize that it is possible for you to stab someone once, and they could still die. Paramedics don't just atomize beside you when you call them.


[edit]
just realized what Tate wrote above me...

I'd have to go get a sandwich if someone shut me up that badly

[theESCO]

hold your breath. i'll bet every penny to my name that if some label looking to promote a band you hate approached you (i.e. cute is what we aim for) and offered you the right amount of money you would allow them to use every square inch of this website. i cannot stand how you claim this is some hoenst news site, but on the flipside bands that you personally love (i.e. sherwood, the academy is, paramore) get way more coverage than other bands who are doing just as many things newsworthy. and sure, you don't personally post about some of the stuff (could be rohan, tony, anybody who posts), but since you do run the site you could put a stop to the excess news related to the previously mentioned artists as if anybody really gives a shit that the 4,675th installment of acadmey is tv is up for veiwing, just as you put a stop to things going up on the site that you aren't down with. (i.e. the whole i'm never posting about my american heart ever again because i'm a pussy and don't like it when people give me shit about what gets posted on my website), even though this is supposively a news website, which would involve things that you don't agree with or enjoy listening to. i can't wait till you complain about this in your "hot" journal.

It's also a business..i never understood why people let stupid shit like this bother them so much. It's a fucking website.

[miltownrob]

self-defence and accident are not the same thing. accident means that there was no intention to commit harm occasioning death, whereas self-defence indicates that there was an intention to commit harm, but that this was occasioned out of necessity for ensuring the accused's own safety and bodily integrity remained intact.

either way he had a knife on him. which means there was some sort of intention. unless it was like a 2in pocket knife, which would most likely not kill someone unless it sliced a jugular or wrist

[Scott Weber]

Tony Lovato was in a racist punk band when he was a teenager, so who knows.
Blah, blah, he wasa 13. I didn't know dick when I was 13.

[Jason Tate]

either way he had a knife on him. which means there was some sort of intention. unless it was like a 2in pocket knife, which would most likely not kill someone unless it sliced a jugular or wrist
I have a pocket knife on my key-chain. Habit I picked up from my Grandpa and Boy Scouts ... :shrug:

[Rockrider311]

hold your breath. i'll bet every penny to my name that if some label looking to promote a band you hate approached you (i.e. cute is what we aim for) and offered you the right amount of money you would allow them to use every square inch of this website. i cannot stand how you claim this is some hoenst news site, but on the flipside bands that you personally love (i.e. sherwood, the academy is, paramore) get way more coverage than other bands who are doing just as many things newsworthy. and sure, you don't personally post about some of the stuff (could be rohan, tony, anybody who posts), but since you do run the site you could put a stop to the excess news related to the previously mentioned artists as if anybody really gives a shit that the 4,675th installment of acadmey is tv is up for veiwing, just as you put a stop to things going up on the site that you aren't down with. (i.e. the whole i'm never posting about my american heart ever again because i'm a pussy and don't like it when people give me shit about what gets posted on my website), even though this is supposively a news website, which would involve things that you don't agree with or enjoy listening to. i can't wait till you complain about this in your "hot" journal.

shut up. if i could make a living off this kind of job, i'd be more than willing to part with some of my personal tastes for a dollar or two. when you're a kid living off your parents' income (as jason was when he started this site), it's one thing to only post about bands you love...but this is his job - his livelihood. how can you just hate on him for making enough money to keep doing what he loves while making as few sacrifices as possible?

[The Revisionist]

You guys... can we stick to talking shit about Tony Lovato in this thread? It was going so well...

[miltownrob]

I have a pocket knife on my key-chain. Habit I picked up from my Grandpa and Boy Scouts ... :shrug:

yea. there is nothing wrong with that. but you would agree that it would take some effort to kill somebody with a pocketknife

plus my point was that he had a large knife

[mht]

hold your breath. i'll bet every penny to my name that if some label looking to promote a band you hate approached you (i.e. cute is what we aim for) and offered you the right amount of money you would allow them to use every square inch of this website. i cannot stand how you claim this is some hoenst news site, but on the flipside bands that you personally love (i.e. sherwood, the academy is, paramore) get way more coverage than other bands who are doing just as many things newsworthy. and sure, you don't personally post about some of the stuff (could be rohan, tony, anybody who posts), but since you do run the site you could put a stop to the excess news related to the previously mentioned artists as if anybody really gives a shit that the 4,675th installment of acadmey is tv is up for veiwing, just as you put a stop to things going up on the site that you aren't down with. (i.e. the whole i'm never posting about my american heart ever again because i'm a pussy and don't like it when people give me shit about what gets posted on my website), even though this is supposively a news website, which would involve things that you don't agree with or enjoy listening to. i can't wait till you complain about this in your "hot" journal.



.... stop. please. Jason and the ladies and men who work for him, do a fine and fair job of covering bands equally, if it was up to Jason, I'm sure Morrisey news would be posted 50 times a day instead of crappy bands like Russian Circles. But that isn't the case, wether he or is staff likes the music, they still try and cover it [though the heavy music does need some work around here] everything is pretty much done great when it comes to news, music and reviews, so I don't know where you are pulling any of that garbage from. Oh and I doubt he actually cares to post some nonsense post like yours in his journal when he can actually put music he likes and enjoys there instead. Nice try though man, get 'em next time.

[XGirlinAisle10]

Stabbing someone to death isn't becoming "wiser".

But who knows?

Perhaps he was defending himself? But since the guy is dead, that may be hard to prove.

Maybe he had some racy photographs?

I agree stabbing someone isn't wise. However I so believe he was protecting himself. Especially If he has been cooperating with the cops.

I honestly hope if it was self defense that this will sort itself out.

Here is to hoping.

[Jason Tate]

yea. there is nothing wrong with that. but you would agree that it would take some effort to kill somebody with a pocketknife

plus my point was that he had a large knife
I (fortunately) have no idea what it takes to kill a man with a weapon. I would assume it would be multiple stab wounds (as I think the news implied) - but could also assume in the "heat of the moment" someone not understanding what they're doing.

Regardless -- I don't have it in me to ever do something like that, unless I was about to die if I didn't. So I really have no idea. I would assume it would take strength and great effort to KILL someone with a pocket knife -- and that if it's really over a girl, and her new boyfriend, that you are severely messed up (no pun intended) to get involved in a situation where it could lead to this sort of consequence.

That said ... I've been in fights ... I would never, ever pull a knife. I remember reading in a book once, "don't carry a knife unless you're going to pull it, don't pull a knife unless you're going to use it, don't use a knife unless you're willing to kill someone." I think it was in one of these books (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/002-2083961-0072050?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Marc+Animal+MacYoung&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go); and that mantra/adage always stayed with me.

[Jerzeyboy525]

people need to get a life seriously and quit cracking on Tony...ive listened to Mest for like 7 years now and i know i am not the only person that is offended by your stupid comments. i cant believe this happened, he was one of the nicest guys

[TheBaroness]

either way he had a knife on him. which means there was some sort of intention. unless it was like a 2in pocket knife, which would most likely not kill someone unless it sliced a jugular or wrist

I haven't read the facts, but I guess that's for the jury to decide

[miltownrob]

i just watched the video, apparently it was a pocketknife.

the real question is, did anyone think of Tricia Takanawa while watching this?
http://www.losanjealous.com/img/news/triciatackanawa.gif

[Dante3000]

shut up. if i could make a living off this kind of job, i'd be more than willing to part with some of my personal tastes for a dollar or two. when you're a kid living off your parents' income (as jason was when he started this site), it's one thing to only post about bands you love...but this is his job - his livelihood. how can you just hate on him for making enough money to keep doing what he loves while making as few sacrifices as possible?
Wait...Am I to understand someone makes a living off of this herpes sore for the eyes? It's crazy enough people read this turd stain but someone makes enough money to live off of this? That's worse than racism.
-Dante

[Adrian Villagomez]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7f_tvDHogs&mode=related&search=I feel sad for that girl.

That said ... I've been in fights ... I would never, ever pull a knife.I never saw you as the bloodthirsty type.

[formaldehyde]

crazyyy.

[Jason Tate]

Wait...Am I to understand someone makes a living off of this herpes sore for the eyes? It's crazy enough people read this turd stain but someone makes enough money to live off of this? That's worse than racism.
-Dante
I never get tired of the irony in posts like these.

If you want, feel free to register your complaint here (http://www.absolutepunk.net/login.php?do=logout&logouthash=d864722bdb012edaae7afcd7 279d18cd).

[TheBaroness]

i just watched the video, apparently it was a pocketknife.


Sounds like it'll be an interesting case...

[lostromanticxx]

You know, it's funny watching all of you make jokes out of a rather serious situation. Reguardless of your opinions on Mest or A Permanent Holiday, Tony is still a fucking person, a human being, he actually has feelings. Most of you if any of you have probably never in your lives known someone in a situation like this on either side. I have and I know how much it sucks for the family of that guy that died right now and the family and friends of Tony Lovato. I've met Tony many times, and he's always been nothing but sweet to me, and yeah maybe he did stab this guy, he also stood up and told the police what it is that he did and his side of the story. You all want to make jokes? Really. That's cool. Put yourself in the fucking places of those poeple and you would think fucking different. If it was some guy from some shitty scene band who did something like this all of you would be sitting at home crying your little eye liner clad eyes out about it, but it's not. He's somoene that everyone has heard stories about how he's an asshole and everything else, but you know what? They're just stories. He made a mistake just as a lot of people do in life and some fuck up more then others, but that does not give any of you the fucking right to sit there and crack jokes about it because it's a serious situation. You all need to seriously grow the fuck up and get some fucking manners because if it was one of you who killed someone whether it was self-defense or not would you stand there and take the blame and fess up to what you did wrong or would you run away like a fucking coward? I bet most of you would put your tail between your legs and fucking run. Smarten the fuck up. I know a lot of you aren't that idiotic and immature, so show it and show some fucking respect.

[nateisbliss]

i can't think of anything to say that hasn't already been said, so i'm just going to agree with everyone in that this is really effin crazy.

[FourStarters]

Wow.

[miltownrob]

You know, it's funny watching all of you make jokes out of a rather serious situation. Reguardless of your opinions on Mest or A Permanent Holiday, Tony is still a fucking person, a human being, he actually has feelings. Most of you if any of you have probably never in your lives known someone in a situation like this on either side. I have and I know how much it sucks for the family of that guy that died right now and the family and friends of Tony Lovato. I've met Tony many times, and he's always been nothing but sweet to me, and yeah maybe he did stab this guy, he also stood up and told the police what it is that he did and his side of the story. You all want to make jokes? Really. That's cool. Put yourself in the fucking places of those poeple and you would think fucking different. If it was some guy from some shitty scene band who did something like this all of you would be sitting at home crying your little eye liner clad eyes out about it, but it's not. He's somoene that everyone has heard stories about how he's an asshole and everything else, but you know what? They're just stories. He made a mistake just as a lot of people do in life and some fuck up more then others, but that does not give any of you the fucking right to sit there and crack jokes about it because it's a serious situation. You all need to seriously grow the fuck up and get some fucking manners because if it was one of you who killed someone whether it was self-defense or not would you stand there and take the blame and fess up to what you did wrong or would you run away like a fucking coward? I bet most of you would put your tail between your legs and fucking run. Smarten the fuck up. I know a lot of you aren't that idiotic and immature, so show it and show some fucking respect.
it's the internet. people do/say things just because they can. no need to get bent out of shape.

plus the great thing is, if you start reading something offensive, you can always hit alt+f4 or just stop reading, like i did after your first sentence

[drivethruaz]

holy shit. all i can say

[The Revisionist]

So what's worse: being arrested for alleged murder or being in Mest?

[formaldehyde]

Wow.
i like your icon.

[nateisbliss]

You know, it's funny watching all of you make jokes out of a rather serious situation. Reguardless of your opinions on Mest or A Permanent Holiday, Tony is still a fucking person, a human being, he actually has feelings. Most of you if any of you have probably never in your lives known someone in a situation like this on either side. I have and I know how much it sucks for the family of that guy that died right now and the family and friends of Tony Lovato. I've met Tony many times, and he's always been nothing but sweet to me, and yeah maybe he did stab this guy, he also stood up and told the police what it is that he did and his side of the story. You all want to make jokes? Really. That's cool. Put yourself in the fucking places of those poeple and you would think fucking different. If it was some guy from some shitty scene band who did something like this all of you would be sitting at home crying your little eye liner clad eyes out about it, but it's not. He's somoene that everyone has heard stories about how he's an asshole and everything else, but you know what? They're just stories. He made a mistake just as a lot of people do in life and some fuck up more then others, but that does not give any of you the fucking right to sit there and crack jokes about it because it's a serious situation. You all need to seriously grow the fuck up and get some fucking manners because if it was one of you who killed someone whether it was self-defense or not would you stand there and take the blame and fess up to what you did wrong or would you run away like a fucking coward? I bet most of you would put your tail between your legs and fucking run. Smarten the fuck up. I know a lot of you aren't that idiotic and immature, so show it and show some fucking respect.
oh and one other thing - i agree with what you're saying, but at least say it with a little more eloquence. you probably said "fuck" or "fucking" at least once in every sentence. you can't expect everyone to respect your statement when you're talking like a prison inmate.

[Dante3000]

I never get tired of the irony in posts like these.

If you want, feel free to register your complaint here (http://www.absolutepunk.net/login.php?do=logout&logouthash=d864722bdb012edaae7afcd7 279d18cd).
All that did was take me to an error page. Am I to assume that your complaint department is an error page? That's not very witty.
And I'm not sure what the irony is exactly. I don't make my living by feeding off the young and impressionable (or perhaps just slow). Nor to I produce visual herpes that exist for the sole purpose of rim jobbing the lowest common denominator of humanity. Perhaps you meant you never get tired of Starbusts, they are delicious.
-Dante

[lostromanticxx]

oh and one other thing - i agree with what you're saying, but at least say it with a little more eloquence. you probably said "fuck" or "fucking" at least once in every sentence. you can't expect everyone to respect your statement when you're talking like a prison inmate.

I honestly at this point don't really care if people respect what I say. The way my life is going right now fuck is pretty much an understatement.

[TheBaroness]

You know, it's funny watching all of you make jokes out of a rather serious situation. Reguardless of your opinions on Mest or A Permanent Holiday, Tony is still a fucking person, a human being, he actually has feelings. Most of you if any of you have probably never in your lives known someone in a situation like this on either side. I have and I know how much it sucks for the family of that guy that died right now and the family and friends of Tony Lovato. I've met Tony many times, and he's always been nothing but sweet to me, and yeah maybe he did stab this guy, he also stood up and told the police what it is that he did and his side of the story. You all want to make jokes? Really. That's cool. Put yourself in the fucking places of those poeple and you would think fucking different. If it was some guy from some shitty scene band who did something like this all of you would be sitting at home crying your little eye liner clad eyes out about it, but it's not. He's somoene that everyone has heard stories about how he's an asshole and everything else, but you know what? They're just stories. He made a mistake just as a lot of people do in life and some fuck up more then others, but that does not give any of you the fucking right to sit there and crack jokes about it because it's a serious situation. You all need to seriously grow the fuck up and get some fucking manners because if it was one of you who killed someone whether it was self-defense or not would you stand there and take the blame and fess up to what you did wrong or would you run away like a fucking coward? I bet most of you would put your tail between your legs and fucking run. Smarten the fuck up. I know a lot of you aren't that idiotic and immature, so show it and show some fucking respect.

I like the way so many kids are calling on us to have some sympathy for Tony...how about having sympathy for the victim and his family?

[lostromanticxx]

I like the way so many kids are calling on us to have some sympathy for Tony...how about having sympathy for the victim and his family?

I have sympathy for the victim and his family. I'm not saying what Tony did was right, because it wasn't, I know someone who was murdered pretty brutally in the same situation, what I'm saying is people fuck up. For all we know the other guy pulled a weapon first. It does occasionally happen that the person under arrest is actually telling the truth.

[Jason Tate]

All that did was take me to an error page. Am I to assume that your complaint department is an error page? That's not very witty.
And I'm not sure what the irony is exactly. I don't make my living by feeding off the young and impressionable (or perhaps just slow). Nor to I produce visual herpes that exist for the sole purpose of rim jobbing the lowest common denominator of humanity. Perhaps you meant you never get tired of Starbusts, they are delicious.
-Dante
The irony is your current stay on the website ... and how with each second you enable what you purport to hate.

[danielplaysbass]

he was so nice at warped a few years ago...

[marksescon]

What's the dealio?

[Roboman]

All that did was take me to an error page. Am I to assume that your complaint department is an error page? That's not very witty.
And I'm not sure what the irony is exactly. I don't make my living by feeding off the young and impressionable (or perhaps just slow). Nor to I produce visual herpes that exist for the sole purpose of rim jobbing the lowest common denominator of humanity. Perhaps you meant you never get tired of Starbusts, they are delicious.
-Dante

Maybe it's ironic that you've been a member since October 2005, yet you seemingly hate this website?

[miltownrob]

if the tables were reversed and you were under arrest, tony wouldn't be sticking up for you. so just leave it alone. people are going to be assholes. one post or a thousand posts will not make a difference. your best bet would be to click on their user name, then click ignore them. it's that simple

[Jason Tate]

What's the dealio?
I'm curious how many times that joke's gonna be posted in this thread by morning.

[mht]

All that did was take me to an error page. Am I to assume that your complaint department is an error page? That's not very witty.
And I'm not sure what the irony is exactly. I don't make my living by feeding off the young and impressionable (or perhaps just slow). Nor to I produce visual herpes that exist for the sole purpose of rim jobbing the lowest common denominator of humanity. Perhaps you meant you never get tired of Starbusts, they are delicious.
-Dante

nerdy guys from california that do podcasts have a small penis and can't get laid.

[lostromanticxx]

if the tables were reversed and you were under arrest, tony wouldn't be sticking up for you. so just leave it alone. people are going to be assholes. one post or a thousand posts will not make a difference. your best bet would be to click on their user name, then click ignore them. it's that simple

I know plenty of people who would stick up for me though and that's all that matters to me. I don't care who it is I just know people would, and I am far from defending Tony's actions, what he did is wrong and he's pretty aware of that, but he also turned himself into police, to me that isn't the sign of a cold hearted killer. Everyone deserves forgiveness no matter how badly they have sinned as far as I'm concerned, and the Tony I have met probably more then a hundred times has always been nothing but sweet as pie to me and he listened to me in my time of need, so why shouldn't I say something in his?

[kissbangkill]

All that did was take me to an error page. Am I to assume that your complaint department is an error page? That's not very witty.
And I'm not sure what the irony is exactly. I don't make my living by feeding off the young and impressionable (or perhaps just slow). Nor to I produce visual herpes that exist for the sole purpose of rim jobbing the lowest common denominator of humanity. Perhaps you meant you never get tired of Starbusts, they are delicious.
-Dante

and yet here you are, on this "visual herpe" of a website getting "rim jobbed" by the person you have so much disdain for. you could just you know.. go away.

[Jason Tate]

nerdy guys from california that do podcasts have a small penis and can't get laid.
http://myspace-210.vo.llnwd.net/00359/01/29/359039210_l.jpg


Ahhh, but he looks so happy.

[garlicgirl1210]

holy fuck.
at least he cooperated, that is nice. really.

[nateisbliss]

I'm curious how many times that joke's gonna be posted in this thread by morning.
agreed. i wonder if they really thought they were the first to make that connection/joke.

[Dante3000]

The irony is your current stay on the website ... and how with each second you enable what you purport to hate.
I'm assuming living in the great (sure) state of Oregon you're on Pacific Standard Time and know full well it's 12:30 or so. This matters only because it's 12:30 and I'm currently stuck at work (these things happen in my line) and therefore stuck at a company computer. Believe me, if I was at home I would either be:
A) Asleep or
B) Looking at porn.
As I'm at work I'm unable to do either of these things.
Now being the CEO and all the good shiny crap I'm sure you can look at my profile and see I've made enough posts that you can count them on your fingers (maybe even one hand) and you can probably even tell how many times I've logged in in the past billion years. I'm guessing the number can also be counted on one hand.
Perhaps my using your site once ever 6 months (while stuck at work) to insult the people who use it and try and bring some sense levity to these kids, is what is pushing you just over the top to keep this shitty shitty bang bang running. Perhaps my one account, that is used more than half these kids genitals is what is allowing you to keep this site functioning at it's stellar rate.
Maybe, but I doubt it.
-Dante

[kissbangkill]

sad situation, no matter how you look at it. simple as that.

[miltownrob]

I know plenty of people who would stick up for me though and that's all that matters to me. I don't care who it is I just know people would, and I am far from defending Tony's actions, what he did is wrong and he's pretty aware of that, but he also turned himself into police, to me that isn't the sign of a cold hearted killer. Everyone deserves forgiveness no matter how badly they have sinned as far as I'm concerned, and the Tony I have met probably more then a hundred times has always been nothing but sweet as pie to me and he listened to me in my time of need, so why shouldn't I say something in his?
what the hell? who are you to judge someone based on pure speculation. you were being a nazi to everyone else and the fact is tony could have just been at the wrong place at the wrong time.

[mht]

Ahhh, but he looks so happy.


Happy enough to join your "blah blah blah rimjob whatever he said negative" website almost 2 years ago...figure that out.

[Jason Tate]

sad situation, no matter how you look at it. simple as that.
Agreed

[lostromanticxx]

what the hell? who are you to judge someone based on pure speculation. you were being a nazi to everyone else and the fact is tony could have just been at the wrong place at the wrong time.

He wasn't in the wrong place at the wrong time if you read the news stories. The police were called to the apartment earlier that evening because of a dispute but no one was arrested. The only reason I defended Tony in the first place is for reasons I'll probably never share with the rest of the world, but they are things I hold close to my heart.

[FourStarters]

In Tony's defense, he's always been a really nice guy with some really shitty luck. In a fight, I'm not sure how well he'd do - this is a guy that's been nearly crippled by back problems. I can't imagine him putting up much of a fight in the first place.

[Dante3000]

nerdy guys from california that do podcasts have a small penis and can't get laid.
Two things, one do you seriously have over 12,000 posts on this site? And I am to be of the understanding that I can't get laid?
Two, small penis? Wow, I'm 12 and that hurt. Like...I'm crying. Maybe you can come over and we can discuss our feelings later.
-Dante

[mht]

I'm assuming living in the great (sure) state of Oregon you're on Pacific Standard Time and know full well it's 12:30 or so. This matters only because it's 12:30 and I'm currently stuck at work (these things happen in my line) and therefore stuck at a company computer. Believe me, if I was at home I would either be:
A) Asleep or
B) Looking at porn.
As I'm at work I'm unable to do either of these things.
Now being the CEO and all the good shiny crap I'm sure you can look at my profile and see I've made enough posts that you can count them on your fingers (maybe even one hand) and you can probably even tell how many times I've logged in in the past billion years. I'm guessing the number can also be counted on one hand.
Perhaps my using your site once ever 6 months (while stuck at work) to insult the people who use it and try and bring some sense levity to these kids, is what is pushing you just over the top to keep this shitty shitty bang bang running. Perhaps my one account, that is used more than half these kids genitals is what is allowing you to keep this site functioning at it's stellar rate.
Maybe, but I doubt it.
-Dante


I doubt you get chicks or use your genitals much from having your nerdy little radio podcast shows either... hence your love for porn I guess, I think your just jealous that Mr. Tate has more viewers and people who enjoy his site than your little radio shows.

[mht]

Two things, one do you seriously have over 12,000 posts on this site? And I am to be of the understanding that I can't get laid?
Two, small penis? Wow, I'm 12 and that hurt. Like...I'm crying. Maybe you can come over and we can discuss our feelings later.
-Dante


I'd rather have 12,000 posts on this site than listen to your terrible radio shows and taste of music any day.

[lostromanticxx]

In Tony's defense, he's always been a really nice guy with some really shitty luck. In a fight, I'm not sure how well he'd do - this is a guy that's been nearly crippled by back problems. I can't imagine him putting up much of a fight in the first place.

I agree with that. He's always been a really nice guy and from what I know he's had some terrible luck. He's a tough kid though.

[Adrian Villagomez]

Two things, one do you seriously have over 12,000 posts on this site? And I am to be of the understanding that I can't get laid?
Two, small penis? Wow, I'm 12 and that hurt. Like...I'm crying. Maybe you can come over and we can discuss our feelings later.
-DanteWhy do you waste your time posting on a message board that you hate? It's fine to disagree with the site in general, but if that's the case, there's no point in your being here. I don't walk into Starbucks and insult the managers/employees/customers just because I think it's foolish to spend upwards of $5 for what is essentially a cup of coffee.

[Dante3000]

I'd rather have 12,000 posts on this site than listen to your terrible radio shows and taste of music any day.
I like that you found one thing about me, my podcast, and have decided that's totally enough to make fun of me, it's quaint. Like the kid that wears a blue shirt to school so you make fun of him by calling him, "blue shirt". Totally awesome.
Truth is, despite the fact that I think this site is more humorous than useful for music information, Tate does have a lot of people that come here, so I guess that's cool. I don't hold that against him. This is what he wants to do for a living, I don't. I do my "nerdy little internet radio blah blah" for fun. I never ever want to make money off of anything music related because once you do (and especially once it's your livelihood) it becomes something else. Maybe it's still fun but it's definitely different when your rent depends on it. So no, I'm not jealous. I don't care if 10 people or 10,000 listen to the show. It's afforded me the opportunity to talk to some amazing people and do some things I never would be able to do otherwise.
Now I could go on and talk about how I totally get laid and all the totally cool famous people I've met, and try and make the podcast sound cool to you or make myself sound cool to you. But I think I could win you over if I just gave you some tasty, non-toxic paste.
-Dante

[Dante3000]

Why do you waste your time posting on a message board that you hate? It's fine to disagree with the site in general, but if that's the case, there's no point in your being here. I don't walk into Starbucks and insult the managers/employees/customers just because I think it's foolish to spend upwards of $5 for what is essentially a cup of coffee.
You would if it was this funny. Trust me.
-Dante

[Adrian Villagomez]

You would if it was this funny. Trust me.
-DanteNaw, antagonizing people simply for the sake of it isn't my brand of humor.

[mht]

I like that you found one thing about me, my podcast, and have decided that's totally enough to make fun of me, it's quaint. Like the kid that wears a blue shirt to school so you make fun of him by calling him, "blue shirt". Totally awesome.

I like how you found one thing about Jason Tate...his website, and how you like to make fun of him/it for something he likes to do and enjoys. Totally awesome.


Truth is, despite the fact that I think this site is more humorous than useful for music information, Tate does have a lot of people that come here, so I guess that's cool. I don't hold that against him. This is what he wants to do for a living, I don't. I do my "nerdy little internet radio blah blah" for fun. I never ever want to make money off of anything music related because once you do (and especially once it's your livelihood) it becomes something else. Maybe it's still fun but it's definitely different when your rent depends on it. So no, I'm not jealous. I don't care if 10 people or 10,000 listen to the show. It's afforded me the opportunity to talk to some amazing people and do some things I never would be able to do otherwise.

You don't think Jason started this for fun, and something he enjoyed doing...so what if he is making money off it, I would too if I was him, I don't think Jason cares if 10 people or 10,000 visit his website either...same stuff could be said about him and what he likes to do with his website as you do your podcasts. Everything you are saying you are just the pot calling the kettle black...very hypocritical of you man.


Now I could go on and talk about how I totally get laid and all the totally cool famous people I've met, and try and make the podcast sound cool to you or make myself sound cool to you. But I think I could win you over if I just gave you some tasty, non-toxic paste.
-Dante

That's cool you met famous people and stuff, good luck man and enjoy it, I'll enjoy the non-toxic paste.



-Mike-Mike-Mike

-Mike

-Mike-Mike-Mike

-Mike


-Mike-Mike

[Dante3000]

I like how you found one thing about Jason Tate...his website, and how you like to make fun of him/it for something he likes to do and enjoys. Totally awesome.



You don't think Jason started this for fun, and something he enjoyed doing...so what if he is making money off it, I would too if I was him, I don't think Jason cares if 10 people or 10,000 visit his website either...same stuff could be said about him and what he likes to do with his website as you do your podcasts. Everything you are saying you are just the pot calling the kettle black...very hypocritical of you man.



That's cool you met famous people and stuff, good luck man and enjoy it, I'll enjoy the non-toxic paste.

I'm not making fun of Jason. I simply think this site is ridiculous. I never said Jason had a tiny penis and didn't get laid. Maybe you were thinking about what you said to me.

Jason cares how many people visit this site, if you think otherwise you're wrong. He might be doing AP.net still in some capacity even if it wasn't making money. However, if it is in fact his source of income, he most certainly does care how many people come to this site. That'd be like Steve Jobs at Apple saying he doesn't care if they sell another song, computer or iPod. It's against your own self interest. Now, I have no investment in my podcast but my free time. It's lost me money hand over fist in equipment, shipping prizes, gas to get to interviews and everything else involved. If I didn't have that podcast I'd be a richer man. If Jason didn't have AP.net (again if it is his source of income) he'd have a different job. It doesn't mean he can't enjoy it or that he's a bad person but it puts your values in a different place, though I'm sure others would disagree.
-Dante

[captainamazing4]

this is quite surprising indeed. :/

[mht]

I'm not making fun of Jason. I simply think this site is ridiculous. I never said Jason had a tiny penis and didn't get laid. Maybe you were thinking about what you said to me.

Jason cares how many people visit this site, if you think otherwise you're wrong. He might be doing AP.net still in some capacity even if it wasn't making money. However, if it is in fact his source of income, he most certainly does care how many people come to this site. That'd be like Steve Jobs at Apple saying he doesn't care if they sell another song, computer or iPod. It's against your own self interest. Now, I have no investment in my podcast but my free time. It's lost me money hand over fist in equipment, shipping prizes, gas to get to interviews and everything else involved. If I didn't have that podcast I'd be a richer man. If Jason didn't have AP.net (again if it is his source of income) he'd have a different job. It doesn't mean he can't enjoy it or that he's a bad person but it puts your values in a different place, though I'm sure others would disagree.
-Dante


The fact that he was blessed to make money by doing something he likes means he doesn't need or have to get another/different kind of job. So yes, right now it makes perfect sense for him to care about his site, because it's a way to make a living for him. Big deal, he shares it with people who like music and can meet other people that might have stuff in common with them, or can share opinions...people that come to this site are the best interactions between people anywhere on the internet, I'd say even better than myspace or a facebook, or up there at least, regardless if the people agree or not, in this case, me and you.

[falloutboy.]

fuck, tony. he was a cool dude. his new band had promise, i thought..www.myspace.com/apermanentholiday (http://www.myspace.com/apermanentholiday). they ripped all the songs and pics down just this morning, damn. innocent until proven guilty, hopefully he isnt a criminal and truly was defending himself.

[salinejoy]

This is crazy. And sad.

Is fighting on the internet really that much fun? People do it all the time, so it seems like it must be, but I don't really see the appeal.

[Butaire]

This is crazy. And sad.

Is fighting on the internet really that much fun? People do it all the time, so it seems like it must be, but I don't really see the appeal.

It's like the special olympics, no matter who wins you're still retarded

[Co and Ca]

My cat is in heat

[falloutboy.]

It's like the special olympics, no matter who wins you're still retarded
ahahaha thats so bad yet so funny. im going to hell

[splutton]

thats MEST up

hahaha

[Dante3000]

Is fighting on the internet really that much fun? People do it all the time, so it seems like it must be, but I don't really see the appeal.
Salinejoy, I'm glad you asked that. I'll field this the best I can. Yes and no. Fighting on the internet isn't fun in a lot of ways. You'll almost never sway a persons opinion, chances are they'll be nothing more than silly name calling (saying someone has a small penis, or never gets laid, or even posting a picture of someone with Mike Park that's over a year and a half old as if that's some kind of an insult), and in the end you typically get gang banged by a bunch of people who don't share your opinion (or can't back up theirs and resort to simple, personal attacks or threats). So, it can really suck.

However, it can also be a laugh riot if:
1) you really don't care how it turns out. You simply have your beliefs and you know (like this instance) no matter what you say you won't be able to sway anyone. You go in knowing the outcome and that just makes the path that much more enjoyable. Why? Because you get to watch as people become heated and hurl baseless insults and then go on thinking you were schooled.
2) You can actually get someone really pissed off. Having someone threaten you with physical violence over the internet is always a good time. Why? Mostly because it's physically impossible. If a kid from Denver says he'll beat my ass, how is he going to get to me? Does he have the time or energy to track me down and if he does can't it be better spent? AND because the thought of someone getting so pissed off over the internet that they would actually resort to physical violence is insane.

Mostly, I'm at work till 2am and I'm just killing time. All I'm doing is supervising an event, so unless someone needs something I'm just sitting at my desk. I think this site is funny because it really does try to pass itself off as a legit music site (which I guess some of you buy) but it's a site that's supremely run and focused by a single person and those who tend to disagree with him are either removed or gang banged. Fact is that makes a great one man site, but it makes an awful music site. It's really this simple, I noted a ton of people applauded when Jason admitted he had a bias in the Fall Out Boy review. People should have asked (with a full stable of competent reviewers, one of whom already rated the album similar to Jason) why he reviewed it at all.
-Dante

[chokeychicken]

good.

[3GunGaz]

Great comments on his MySpace page

"Everyone! We Need a FREE TONY picket line! This is rediculous! We all know he didnt do it! Come on whos with me?" - Despite him phoning the police and admitting it?

" dude i tried to call you.
didnt believe it.

im hoping to god youre alright." - Do they get access to MySpace in jail?

[SilenceBrokenTT]

BAHAHAHA...

never liked them.

[salinejoy]

Salinejoy, I'm glad you asked that. I'll field this the best I can. Yes and no. Fighting on the internet isn't fun in a lot of ways. You'll almost never sway a persons opinion, chances are they'll be nothing more than silly name calling (saying someone has a small penis, or never gets laid, or even posting a picture of someone with Mike Park that's over a year and a half old as if that's some kind of an insult), and in the end you typically get gang banged by a bunch of people who don't share your opinion (or can't back up theirs and resort to simple, personal attacks or threats). So, it can really suck.

Stop, stop; there is no need to write a novel. You had me at "gang banged."

(I'm involved in the fight now, aren't I? Shit.)

2) You can actually get someone really pissed off. Having someone threaten you with physical violence over the internet is always a good time. Why? Mostly because it's physically impossible. If a kid from Denver says he'll beat my ass, how is he going to get to me? Does he have the time or energy to track me down and if he does can't it be better spent?

The answers to all these questions can be found here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH_Sl_gk4ck).

[Dante3000]

Stop, stop; there is no need to write a novel. You had me at "gang banged."

(I'm involved in the fight now, aren't I? Shit.)



The answers to all these questions can be found here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH_Sl_gk4ck).
I laughed.
Well, it's been real AP.neters. The event should be cleaned up in a few minutes and I'll be out of your hair (well the five of you who noticed me) for at least a while. I really do enjoy some of this and could see coming here more often for this kind of thing but then Jason would have me dead to rights, I really would be perpetuating the thing I claim to despise and I'm not that kinda asshole.
-Dante

[oldskool]

wow this is crazy

[weworemasks]

BAHAHAHA...

never liked them.

what the fuck does that have to do with it? yes, i chose your comment out of 120 idiotic, immature fucking priceless comments, many from people above the age of 20. what the hell is going through all of your heads? someone DIED.

this reminds me of the anna nicole smith thread...when people were cracking jokes hours after she died.

how the fuck is this a time to make jokes about that kind of shit? yeah, i understand the jokes are about tony, and not the victim etc etc. but seriously, some people on the site have a lot of growing up to do. apparently i'm in a different mindset than most.

the users on this site do a fine job of showcasing how fucking stupid and childish 18 to 24-year-olds can be.

[NoOneRunsFaster]

i just watched the video, apparently it was a pocketknife.

the real question is, did anyone think of Tricia Takanawa while watching this?
http://www.losanjealous.com/img/news/triciatackanawa.gif

that was my first thought!

[Alex DiVincenzo]

Wow, that's pretty fucked up. I used to like Mest. I've met him before and he was cool. I hope it's not true, but you never know.

[Praetor]

what the fuck does that have to do with it? yes, i chose your comment out of 120 idiotic, immature fucking priceless comments, many from people above the age of 20. what the hell is going through all of your heads? someone DIED.

this reminds me of the anna nicole smith thread...when people were cracking jokes hours after she died.

how the fuck is this a time to make jokes about that kind of shit? yeah, i understand the jokes are about tony, and not the victim etc etc. but seriously, some people on the site have a lot of growing up to do. apparently i'm in a different mindset than most.

the users on this site do a fine job of showcasing how fucking stupid and childish 18 to 24-year-olds can be.
Thank you. I cannot believe some people.

[Thisisntright]

whats the dealio well its jailio

[katekate]

what the fuck does that have to do with it? yes, i chose your comment out of 120 idiotic, immature fucking priceless comments, many from people above the age of 20. what the hell is going through all of your heads? someone DIED.

this reminds me of the anna nicole smith thread...when people were cracking jokes hours after she died.

how the fuck is this a time to make jokes about that kind of shit? yeah, i understand the jokes are about tony, and not the victim etc etc. but seriously, some people on the site have a lot of growing up to do. apparently i'm in a different mindset than most.

the users on this site do a fine job of showcasing how fucking stupid and childish 18 to 24-year-olds can be.
i just read through all 12 pages and i agree.
i can't believe how many people are trying to crack jokes about this.

[NoOneRunsFaster]

what the fuck does that have to do with it? yes, i chose your comment out of 120 idiotic, immature fucking priceless comments, many from people above the age of 20. what the hell is going through all of your heads? someone DIED.

this reminds me of the anna nicole smith thread...when people were cracking jokes hours after she died.

how the fuck is this a time to make jokes about that kind of shit? yeah, i understand the jokes are about tony, and not the victim etc etc. but seriously, some people on the site have a lot of growing up to do. apparently i'm in a different mindset than most.

the users on this site do a fine job of showcasing how fucking stupid and childish 18 to 24-year-olds can be.

two things

1. is it bad i forgot anna nicole smith was dead?

2. i love the arrested development icon

YOUR ALL ROBOTS! TASTE MY SADNESS! TASTE THE SAD!

[thebestkylever]

whats the dealio well its jailio

dude are you fucking serious?

[Thisisntright]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032600121.html

[altemose09]

thats MEST up
word

[NoOneRunsFaster]

if mr. lovato was never in mest.. does the washington post cover this story?

[zerock]

that's sad

[Mercy Medical]

Holy shit...

[BGP]

wow

[BTNGHRTSBB]

Wow. Hxc.

Lol.

[thekinison]

whoa thats messed up

[myworstmistakes]

whoa. that's nuts.

[bankrom]

trisha takanawa?

[NationalProduct]

The irony is your current stay on the website ... and how with each second you enable what you purport to hate.

also his spelling tate, its quite funny hehe =)

Originally Posted by Dante3000View Post
All that did was take me to an error page. Am I to assume that your complaint department is an error page? That's not very witty.
And I'm not sure what the irony is exactly. I don't make my living by feeding off the young and impressionable (or perhaps just slow). Nor (to) I produce visual herpes that exist for the sole purpose of rim jobbing the lowest common denominator of humanity. Perhaps you meant you never get tired of (Starbusts), they are delicious.
-Dante

[Big_Guy]

Blah, blah, he wasa 13. I didn't know dick when I was 13.

I knew better than to be in a racist punk band and so did you. stop sticking up for this guy.


and back to the story. I doubt he just outright stabbed some dude, but well see

[Kif]

The lead singer of Mest isn't worth $1 million bail to be honest.

[MegH]

Crazy situation.

[xcandynecklacex]

The lead singer of Mest isn't worth $1 million bail to be honest.
^ lol, so true.
damn my friend's gonna freak out.
tony is like his idol.

[bankrom]

^ lol, so true.

damn my friend's gonna freak out.

tony is like his idol.


you need better friends

[ethicka]

wtf, this is insane.

[Who Is This Guy]

Remember, folks, to reserve judgment until actual facts start coming out. Innocent until proven guilty.


sounds like he confessed though, seems pretty guilty on this one

[DaveHallow]

Keep this shit updated, i don't hear anything in Australia.

[cymbals110]

wow... fuct up!

[drive-thru]

holy shit, that's insane.

[emerypearl]

shiit.

[Shoes]

I knew better than to be in a racist punk band and so did you. stop sticking up for this guy.


and back to the story. I doubt he just outright stabbed some dude, but well see
He used to be in a racist punk, he and the other members were always open about it and even took anti-nazi groups with them on tour.
whats the dealio well its jailio
Either way, this is insane. And the bad jokes aren't funny, someone is dead. How would you like it if it was your brother or friend and stupid little kids on a messageboard were cracking jokes?

[Tom Good]

this is crazy

[HTL570]

thats MEST up

hahaahahaa

[HTL570]

He used to be in a racist punk, he and the other members were always open about it and even took anti-nazi groups with them on tour.

Either way, this is insane. And the bad jokes aren't funny, someone is dead. How would you like it if it was your brother or friend and stupid little kids on a messageboard were cracking jokes?



its pretty screwed up, but I still think "thats MEST up" is funny.

this dude was my childhood idol, what a FUCKED UP KID.

[KEVINFNX]

Well at least he will have plenty of time to write a new album when he's locked up.

Maybe we'll see a new MEST album in 3-5 years!

[combatbaby]

Ohh shit!

[TasonJate]

I was in a bar in Blue Island a couple weekends ago and a lady there was talking about how she used to be his neighbor

[Refused.]

how many times would u need to stab someone with a small pocket knife to kill them?

[LouderThanBombs]

I won't bother to reply to any more of your responses about this because you're full of shit and you know it. And much like Orenthal J. Simpson, you'll never admit it.

Thus, why so many people here and from other websites consider you such an enormous tool.

Again, move on and let's focus on the shittyness known as Mest.

I like Tate.

and it disturbs me beyond comprehension the way so many of you(particularly YOU) are making a joke out of this situation.

Someone
was
stabbed
to
DEATH.

this is no laughing matter by any means...how could you possibly joke about how "shitty" you thought Tony's bands were, when he is in jail for possibly killing someone(self defense or not)?

you people are absolutely sick, and you deserve to rot in hell.

[LouderThanBombs]

Stabbing someone to death isn't becoming "wiser".

But who knows?

Perhaps he was defending himself? But since the guy is dead, that may be hard to prove.

Maybe he had some racy photographs?

again...not funny.

[LouderThanBombs]

One of the few Mest fans is shocked to say the least after hearing the news:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7f_tvDHogs&mode=related&search=

disgusting...why do you keep making a joke out of this?

[PaintMeBlue]

thats MEST up

hahahaha i just knew that one would be coming before i even opened this post.

[Iamhome]

When you show up at court, from what I understand, you get the money back.

Once the case is complete, yes. Your money is tied up until the case is either dismissed or a verdict is reached. In the case that you pay a bailbondsman (typically 10% of your bond, so in this case 100K) they put up the full ammount (1M) and when your case is over, they get their 1M back from the court, and they get to keep your 100K as well. Very profitable business, if you can keep track of your criminals.

[SAOsurviveSTD]

damn, whats the dillio?

I guess he had long days and long nights. he's probably just misunderstood.

i wont lie, Mest's "destination unknown" album was one of the first albums in this "genre" of music I really got into. and lead me in to waht I listen to today.

that really sucks. i remember at the Camden Warped Tour last year or two years ago, there were atleast 1,000 bottles thrown at these guys. it was pretty funny shit.

movin on...

[HTL570]

daamn i was hoping for some angry responses to my post.

Blink 182 "Dude Ranch"
Mest "Wasting Time"
and Fenix TX was my shiiittttt back in the day.

They pretty much went downhill after wasting time, but there is a strong arguement as to if they were ever on the uphill.

[Iamhome]

its pretty screwed up, but I still think "thats MEST up" is funny.

this dude was my childhood idol, what a FUCKED UP KID.

Your lame joke has already been made. Good attempt.

[ChadisRad]

wow...this is horrible

[StevieShotgun]

I have a pocket knife on my key-chain. Habit I picked up from my Grandpa and Boy Scouts ... :shrug:


Boy Scouts? wow. Did not know people still joined the Boy Scouts.

[LostSymphonies]

he was probably strung out on the thousands of drugs he does

[serpent_sky]

That's a headline you never expect to see.

On the same day the policeman from The Village People was arrested for threatening someone with a knife... his girlfriend. I'm losing my mind over here, at the craziness of the day's news.

[TBSowns524]

wow, i'm shocked to say the least

and for all of you making jokes this isn't the place to be doing it

[thefoldsays]

Seriously? KKK?

This is some heavy late night news.

Serious. I remember when John Feldmann played me some of their early demos. He was contemplating working with them, but had heard questionable things about Tony's past. Obviously, he DID work with them, but man if this is true, I guess he never changed.

[Ruggiero2oo8]

holy shit.

[The Revisionist]

Give me a break. If I was in his exact situation, I would expect people to be making jokes and talking shit about me and I would take it because I WOULD COMPLETELY DESERVE IT. There was no excuse for him to kill somebody else and I feel that would make me a person deserving of ridicule.

Besides, I feel like the people making fun of him aren't making fun of the murder, they are making fun of his shitty band... which I'm preeeeetty sure they have been doing since the shitty band's been around, and I don't remember anybody raising a huge stink about it then.

[jetsto]

shitty band

[Slaur]

This is insane.Mest is my four year old's favorite band.

[theguiltyfew]

Wait...Am I to understand someone makes a living off of this herpes sore for the eyes? It's crazy enough people read this turd stain but someone makes enough money to live off of this? That's worse than racism.
-Dante

its funny cuz obviously you read this site too. way to go asshat.

[Chevy114]

That guy seemed a little off when I saw them.

[Dr. Acula]

wow. I dont even know what to say. crazyness.

[theguiltyfew]

You know, it's funny watching all of you make jokes out of a rather serious situation. Reguardless of your opinions on Mest or A Permanent Holiday, Tony is still a fucking person, a human being, he actually has feelings. Most of you if any of you have probably never in your lives known someone in a situation like this on either side. I have and I know how much it sucks for the family of that guy that died right now and the family and friends of Tony Lovato. I've met Tony many times, and he's always been nothing but sweet to me, and yeah maybe he did stab this guy, he also stood up and told the police what it is that he did and his side of the story. You all want to make jokes? Really. That's cool. Put yourself in the fucking places of those poeple and you would think fucking different. If it was some guy from some shitty scene band who did something like this all of you would be sitting at home crying your little eye liner clad eyes out about it, but it's not. He's somoene that everyone has heard stories about how he's an asshole and everything else, but you know what? They're just stories. He made a mistake just as a lot of people do in life and some fuck up more then others, but that does not give any of you the fucking right to sit there and crack jokes about it because it's a serious situation. You all need to seriously grow the fuck up and get some fucking manners because if it was one of you who killed someone whether it was self-defense or not would you stand there and take the blame and fess up to what you did wrong or would you run away like a fucking coward? I bet most of you would put your tail between your legs and fucking run. Smarten the fuck up. I know a lot of you aren't that idiotic and immature, so show it and show some fucking respect.


dude youre getting upset for no reason. no one is making jokes about the victim. and no one is saying that they hope tony goes to prison.

they're just making funny jokes about him. its impossible to not crack a joke or two when he's in the news.

[mfshockey]

To be fair, was Mest ever in the news?

Well, aside from one or two memebers being involved in the KKK.



Has information on the victim's race been released? It could be real interesting if the guy was non-caucasion and this whole KKK or white power punk band could be a real problem.

On a side note, do you think that the charts for the AP.net group on Last.fm will have Mest #1 overall for the coming week?

[The Revisionist]

On a side note, do you think that the charts for the AP.net group on Last.fm will have Mest #1 overall for the coming week?Hopefully we are not dumb enough to start listening to Mest again (in the first place?).

[mikearduini9]

Hopefully we are not dumb enough to start listening to Mest again (in the first place?).

Hell no, haha.

[mikearduini9]

This is insane.Mest is my four year old's favorite band.

To say the least, this is the best time for you to broaden your child's musical taste.

[thefoldsays]

I was in a bar in Blue Island a couple weekends ago and a lady there was talking about how she used to be his neighbor
How many times are you gonna post that?

[abusedcat]

He always seemed like a hothead.
But I loved that band.

[Bob Payne]

Why would a big old wookie go and live on endor? IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE.

[Hainzey X]

When you show up at court, from what I understand, you get the money back.

Oh ok, I never knew that. Thanks.

[Jawknee]

Remember, folks, to reserve judgment until actual facts start coming out. Innocent until proven guilty.
He turned himself in.

He got Mest up!

[Bob Payne]

come on guys, seriously...i'm sick of seeing the same 'mest up' 'fuct up kid' and' 'what's the dealio' posts over and over. I'm fucking serious, I'd rather go to jail for murder than listen to---


oops.

[i12punk]

If this was Punknews.Org, this would be the SUPREME make a sandwich thread.

From Wikipedia:

The "I'm Going To Get A Sandwich" Meme
In September 2002, it was announced that Fenix Tx were breaking up. In the original news story, news editor Adam White expressed a lack of interest and empathy by writing the following simple statement:

Our comrade-in-arms Timmy over at PunkBands.com has confirmed with MCA Records that Fenix Tx has broken up... I'm going to get a sandwich. [11]

The joke became popular among readers posting in the comment section, and was initially used and reused to punctuate the insignificance of a generally disliked yet well-known band's break up. Since then the joke has caught on to the point where anytime any band announces their break up, it is inevitable that someone will reference the joke, whether consensus warrants it or not.

This has nothing to do with what I said.

[chrisstahl]

the funny thing is as i was going through my itunes to pick a song and i totally randomly selected 'rooftops' before clicking my ap.net hotlink and then i read it and was like whoa

[Brandon Allin]

Btw, after looking at his profile picture above, he really does need to be punched in the face.
Regardless of his actions, way to judge someone based on appearance alone.

[love_american_style]

25...25 to liiifffeee!!!!

sorry, had to say it...

[The Revisionist]

Seriously, their songs just fit so perfectly! Maybe the band was a front the entire time and solely set up so we could make jokes later on.

[Brandon Allin]

I won't bother to reply to any more of your responses about this because you're full of shit and you know it. And much like Orenthal J. Simpson, you'll never admit it.

Thus, why so many people here and from other websites consider you such an enormous tool.

Again, move on and let's focus on the shittyness known as Mest.
It says a lot about someone who finds it in them to visit an "enormous tool's" website, don't you think?

[fueledbyiz]

holy shit.

[joshy hizzle]

I like Tate.

and it disturbs me beyond comprehension the way so many of you(particularly YOU) are making a joke out of this situation.

Someone
was
stabbed
to
DEATH.

this is no laughing matter by any means...how could you possibly joke about how "shitty" you thought Tony's bands were, when he is in jail for possibly killing someone(self defense or not)?

you people are absolutely sick, and you deserve to rot in hell.

uh kinda harsh, boss...

[Maniac Moses]

He probably deserved it.

[RonMexico]

thats MEST up

ROFL

[callingallcars]

Wait...Am I to understand someone makes a living off of this herpes sore for the eyes? It's crazy enough people read this turd stain but someone makes enough money to live off of this? That's worse than racism.
-Dante

hey twelve year old, it's not "cool" to rebel against authority, I don't care what minor threat cds you listen to. and if this site is so bad for your tough guy street cred, then why do you keep coming up here and posting. you have eleven posts, if this site is so bad then thats eleven more posts then you should have. i wish i was as cool as you that i could talk trash about some guys website while my mom makes me a pb and j and checks my history to make sure im not on any porn sites. get a life kid. seriously.

[Jason Tate]

Boy Scouts? wow. Did not know people still joined the Boy Scouts.
"Still" - I'm 24, it was like 10-12 years ago. That's not really "still" - that's "in the past."

[SeanEBoy2686]

wow... surprising

[*crying stars*]

That's insane.

[AshtonThomas]

thats MEST up



HAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHA.


CLASSIC.

[callingallcars]

hey twelve year old, it's not "cool" to rebel against authority, I don't care what minor threat cds you listen to. and if this site is so bad for your tough guy street cred, then why do you keep coming up here and posting. you have eleven posts, if this site is so bad then thats eleven more posts then you should have. i wish i was as cool as you that i could talk trash about some guys website while my mom makes me a pb and j and checks my history to make sure im not on any porn sites. get a life kid. seriously.

yeah i just quoted myself, owning you

[smelltheglove]

oh my word. well 'destination unknown' is still a 'killer' pop punk album. sounds like he got mixed up with one of those girls NFG warned me about in 'boy crazy'. tony should have listened to more NFG.

[xXHeyLushXx]

woah

[PaulsRightNut]

1 million dollars bail eh

i bet his buddy joel madden could help him out haha

[12:46AM]

It says a lot about someone who finds it in them to visit an "enormous tool's" website, don't you think?detroit sucks. that is all.

[Poppunkkid182]

how many times would u need to stab someone with a small pocket knife to kill them?

once. if you hit the right spot.....stab or slice someone right under their arm...near the aimpit, you'll kill them in a matter of seconds.

[NoOneRunsFaster]

"Still" - I'm 24, it was like 10-12 years ago. That's not really "still" - that's "in the past."

i don't think when he said "did not think people still join the boy scouts" he was taking a shot at you, i think he may be speaking generally.

[ramstar]

i don't know if anybody posted this or not but heyxchris (yes, of fall out boy's song grenade jumper, yes the heyxchris wentz is no longer friends with) had something to say in his eljay about it...

http://askheychris.livejournal.com/149210.html
for those of you out of the punk rock (and i use that term loosely here) gossip loop, tony from MEST stabbed and killed a dude. before you start saying, "dont judge til you hear the entire story," fact is, he did that shit because he called the police and admitted it. sucks that someone died and all but hey, couldnt have happened to a bigger douchebag. ive seen this dude call girls sluts and whores and kick them off the bus for not "blowing" him. ive never liked his ass, not because he was arrogant (lord knows that would be the pot calling the kettle black) but because he was mean, bitter, spiteful and conceited. we'll see if his street cred from being in a white power band when he was young will get him in with the aryan nation in prison.

[kallok]

This is a publicity stunt... in a few days they'll be like "ohh he was not guilty... ps: we're back and going on Warped Tour!"

lolllllllllllll! never did like his band.

[jmarellano]

i just watched the video, apparently it was a pocketknife.

the real question is, did anyone think of Tricia Takanawa while watching this?
http://www.losanjealous.com/img/news/triciatackanawa.gif
Acutually this is the reporter she was based on lol.

[stevadore]

i just watched the video, apparently it was a pocketknife.

the real question is, did anyone think of Tricia Takanawa while watching this?
http://www.losanjealous.com/img/news/triciatackanawa.gif


yes! hahahha.

[lbc182]

A million bail? That's insane.

Million is standard for this sort of thing. All you'll need is 100K

[Sureshot182]

i obviously don't know what happened, but i'm guessing since we're in the good old usa if he would have brutally murdered him in broad daylight screaming at the top of his lungs he could get off with some bullshit litigation. however, if it was an accident he will probably get life in prison.

[shitastro]

http://forums.clubsi.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/1190456/page/1/fpart/1