Whats Leaked And Where To Get It

[fire_over_la]

so there you have it...what's leaked? where can you get it....? if you know of anything post it here....

[3mpire]

Oink gets most things really early.

[fire_over_la]

you have to be a member of oink though and you cant join unless you get an invite right?

[fire_over_la]

im not a member
:-(

[ringstad]

Oink is invite only yes, but its most likely one of your friends online have an invite or something. I got surprised when I suddenly had alot friends who wanted to give me an invite. Just look around, someone oughta have one :)

[Inthenickoftime]

Great idea.

I have been looking for an invite for a while now. If anyone has one please send it to IntheNICKoftime4@gmail.com thank you.

[tellmycaster]

Anyone have an invite please help me out and send it to tellmycaster@yahoo.com

[kemichels]

so there you have it...what's leaked? where can you get it....? if you know of anything post it here....


well Diditleak.com pretty much handles the first part...but I suppose it would be nice to find out where you can get something

[bard]

there is this thing called Google.

you see, you type in www.google.com (http://www.google.com) and then in the search box, you type in the album you want.

and yes, it does work.

glad to help

[igetmikey]

there is this thing called Google.

you see, you type in www.google.com (http://www.google.com) and then in the search box, you type in the album you want.

and yes, it does work.

glad to help


When you type in the name of the album type in .zip or .rar at the end of it (example: thenewfuckingalbum.zip )this will cut out all the crap and get straight to a website that is hosting the album for download, works almost very time for me.

However you might need a file expander to open it... i only use Macs so stuffit file expander is what i use, if you use a P.C. i believe winrar works good or just google search something.

[TalkShowsOnMute]

When you type in the name of the album type in .zip or .rar at the end of it (example: thenewfuckingalbum.zip )this will cut out all the crap and get straight to a website that is hosting the album for download, works almost very time for me.

However you might need a file expander to open it... i only use Macs so stuffit file expander is what i use, if you use a P.C. i believe winrar works good or just google search something.

Good call. I feel like an idiot for never thinking of that.

[kemichels]

The .zip/.rar thing works pretty well. I used to just type in the name of a cd + blog, and it would usually be within the first 5 hits of the search

[j-mil]

Oink gets most things really early.

I'm sad Oink is gone. :-(

[3mpire]

I'm sad Oink is gone. :-(
Damn my post must have been old. Loved Oink back the day..

[ReadyForAction]

Terrible

[ammar]

Oh god, this brings back memories...
Oink... the pink palace. Such a wonderful place.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

So it goes, and so it went: over the weekend it came to my attention, first via trickle (a well-meaning e-mail to this website from a kind fan) then via relative flood (a phone call from the label, management, confirmation in the blogosphere, etc.) that "Brother's Blood" has leaked, 2 months before its official release.

I'm ambivalent, or more appropriately, confused. (Is "multivalent" a word? I'm that.) I understand it, and I'm a touch flattered, a touch bewildered, and a touch annoyed. I'm not thrilled with myself for the last of those feelings, because it's ultimately not that surprising in this day and age, and beyond that, I'm pretty positive it wasn't a malicious act borne of career-sabotaging intentions, the 'leak.' Someone probably left a file-share open on the wrong server, or gave an advance of the record (necessary in generating press 'buzz' in our little indie ghetto) to the wrong friend, etc. etc. etc.

Besides - there are clearly WAY WAY WAY bigger issues in the world right now than the iron-clad security (or lack thereof) of my record. It doesn't exactly rate given the context. This is what's called a 'luxury problem,' and rightly so.

That being said, it is making some ripples in my little world, so in the interests of responding/addressing/smoothing it out: downloading music from someone like me IS a different enterprise than, say, downloading the new Eminem or Coldplay or Justin Timberlake disc. Last. fm (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vTGFzdC5mbQ==) says I have over 75,000 listeners, which shocked the shit out of me; I've never sold more than probably 8 or 10,000 records in America (and I consider that to be pretty goddamn good).

I work hard at what I do, and I am blessed to be doing it and enjoy it immensely. I'm lucky people give a shit and generally speaking it is an honor to play for you and crazy that I can make a living at it in the process. But by all means, I work, and for the past three years, I have at a pretty intense pace. I've played about 450 shows internationally since June 2006, and I've officially and unofficially released a full-length record (twice), one 7", two EPs, and more than an album's worth of songwriting demos in that time. I've never placed restrictions on filming/photographing my shows and am grateful to the vibrant community that's popped up on YouTube and beyond. I often sell my own merch, and talk to everyone who's interested in talking. I'm not exactly what you'd call inaccessible, and I don't have a history with being withholding or tight-fisted with my content.

So, when viewed from that vantage, it's a little disappointing when someone decides to give away something you've worked hard to present to people in a very specific and deliberate manner for specific and deliberate reasons. It takes my agency away as an artist to share my work with you in context and as intended. It hurts the independent label that risked sinking its money - money they don't necessarily have in bunches - into helping me make a record I'm proud of and really love. And, if the leak impacts how my record actually sells to the small corner of the world expected to purchase it, and it potentially hurts the perception about me as a touring artist, at least to the people who look at album sales as an indicator of an artist's viability.

And that's the biggest problem. I've generally been a proponent of, "Fuck it, just give it away - it's going to leak anyway, and so long as kids come to the shows, it all evens out." But if that math is fuzzy, if downloading doesn't beget a bigger draw, someone like me, who is by no means fat with wealth from a career in music, has never received a record label royalty check, and makes his living almost entirely from income earned on the road, is in trouble (relatively speaking). Which I'm sure is NOT the intention of the people downloading the music.

And while that's something to be mindful of, I also realize it's not nearly so intricate a moral decision for those of you at the other end, especially those of you who've grown up your entire music-loving lives in the culture of the freebie. You're on a budget, or you're a casual music fan, or you're voracious and want to hear what the bands you love are working on, and all of it's available with a couple mouse clicks. And that's totally understandable to me. People are not, to borrow a passionate and clear-eyed friend's phrase, "self-negating angels," nor should we be expected to be. If someone in the street had a sign up advertising oranges at a nickel a pop in twenty minutes while across the road someone else was offering those same oranges for free now, I know I'd have a hard time reasoning out why it'd be better to buy one, especially if I'm hungry now, and even more-so if I'm going broke, just got laid off, or in fear of losing my job. A man's gotta eat, and a man's gotta be entertained.

In a sense, I'm flattered anyone WANTS to hear my record two months before it's finished, and add it to the list of things I never thought I'd be able to tell the proverbial grandkids. And from what I understand, the vast majority of the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive, which is heartening. I'd especially like to thank Jason Tate from absolutepunk. net (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vYWJzb2x1dGVwdW5rLm5ldA= =), who offered kind, sensible and empathetic support on his website, as did many of the listeners in the forum - I try not frequent those spots as I think it's probably bad for someone's head to constantly canvas strangers' ideas of/responses to him, but in this instance and in the interests of curiosity, research, and damage control, I did, and I was surprised and humbled.

Anyway. What else to say? Later this week, we'll be announcing a 6-week US tour around "Brother's Blood" to celebrate its official release. I'm hopeful you'll still buy it, or turn a friend on to it, and I'm hopeful you'll come out and see us when we're in town. But I'm also glad you're listening at all, and hope in these unprecedented and frightening and very real times, the record's provided or will provide some solace, distraction, connection, whatever, because writing and recording and playing it has helped me make sense of the mess a bit and I'd love to be able to share that.

So. To quote another exquisitely unique and beautiful friend, from a song a bunch of you will be listening to and singing and finding relief through this summer: "Whatever comes, whatever comes - let it come.
"
Thank you.

Yours,
Kevin


Read that before you download a leaked album

[acfrue]

uhh, it-leaked?

[igetmikey]

Good call. I feel like an idiot for never thinking of that.


hah yeah i just recently thought of doing it, it simplified finding music so much for me.

[the daniel]

for an example, say you want Fear Before's Self-Titled you do either:
"Fear Before - Fear Before - Mediafire"
or
"Fear Before - Fear Before - blogspot"

thats what usally works for me. i mean, i don't support downloading music, i look at it as a...sample if you're going to give the money back to the band. Of Machine's "As If Everything Was Held In Place" leaked a few days ago.

[JunBringer]

google blog search works quite well too.

[live.]

Megaupload, ftw.

[dancelukedance]

Most of the methods mentioned work well, however i haven't been able to find punk goes pop 2 a'tall. Does anyone know if it's leaked? cheers

[JunBringer]

I prefer mediafire links, but if it's not something popular than I may settle for megaupload or, God forbid, Rapidshare.

[|adr3naLine|]

Don't ignore s.t.e.v.e.n's post. Kevin Devine really puts it into perspective and it's a bit of an eye opener.

[drudo182]

We got something from our internet providing about downloading so I'm freaked out about the whole thing.

[JunBringer]

Yeah the industry has been trying to get the ISP's to crack down on it themselves. Gay!

[Burn That Shit]

www.sordomusic.com

[Yes. And?]

Megaupload, ftw.
Usually, yeah. I've just started using torrents, too, which is helpful.

[JunBringer]

Meh, I'll use torrents for software but just using google blog search for music is always a win.

[x togepi x]

Read that before you download a leaked album

meh, how many of those 75,000 people would be listening to him if not for leaks and downloading?

if people cared about my band's new EP i'd leak it. i'd probably also get in trouble.

[Yes. And?]

meh, how many of those 75,000 people would be listening to him if not for leaks and downloading?

if people cared about my band's new EP i'd leak it. i'd probably also get in trouble.
Leak it to me.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

Don't ignore s.t.e.v.e.n's post. Kevin Devine really puts it into perspective and it's a bit of an eye opener.

meh, how many of those 75,000 people would be listening to him if not for leaks and downloading?

if people cared about my band's new EP i'd leak it. i'd probably also get in trouble.

I'm not even saying that downloading a leaked album is wrong. If its a band I've never heard of and then I download the leaked album and that leads to me liking the band, buying the album then thats great. However, I also see that there are negatives. I mainly posted that just because I think he recognizes both sides and has an interesting perspective.

[fadedmemories]

blogspot sites are your best friend

[|adr3naLine|]

I'm not even saying that downloading a leaked album is wrong. If its a band I've never heard of and then I download the leaked album and that leads to me liking the band, buying the album then thats great. However, I also see that there are negatives. I mainly posted that just because I think he recognizes both sides and has an interesting perspective.
There's nothing wrong with it, as long as like you said, you at least go out and buy merch, go to shows, and whatever else helps out the band.

If you read anything from that (yeah it's long) read the section where he brings up the numbers. Something like 75,000 listeners on last.fm (just last.fm) and about 8,000-10,000 album sales. But he also makes it very clear that he's grateful to even have those couple thousand.