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Jason Tate
04/03/07, 12:20 PM
Mark Cuban recently blogged about the music industry (http://www.blogmaverick.com/2007/04/01/some-quick-thoughts-on-the-music-business/).

Adrian Villagomez
04/03/07, 12:25 PM
John Nolan called this a long time ago.

iblamethegovt
04/03/07, 12:26 PM
Long live the LP packaged with a free digital download coupon! (Saddle Creek FTW)

bankrom
04/03/07, 12:28 PM
i'd like to go drinking with mark cuban and steve jobs.

permanentdan
04/03/07, 12:30 PM
i like him a lot. id love to have a sit down and just to listen to what he has to say sometime. not many people in his position open their mouths about the things they see as dying trends, or try to make any movement forward, instead they try to milk what they can for all they can. its refreshing having someone like him around and given a spotlight so to speak.

Adeniz19
04/03/07, 12:31 PM
well that didnt make much sense to me haha. i thought IPods were already an accessorie to ones self with different skins and functions within it. sure cd players dont sell anymore but mp3 players do.... i really don't see what he's getting at.

thewk
04/03/07, 12:31 PM
He's out of his mind, but I love his team.

HazeLitRise
04/03/07, 12:39 PM
Long live the LP packaged with a free digital download coupon! (Saddle Creek FTW)

i have never been more happy to have bought a cd
after having received my cassadaga pre order

ReturningSunday
04/03/07, 12:40 PM
Mark Cuban is an awesome speaker. He spoke at one of my company's meetings and it was really motivating.

wegiveblood
04/03/07, 12:40 PM
Another "The CD is Dead" Title. Greeeaaaatttttt.





:explode:

BeerNSluts
04/03/07, 12:40 PM
How about we just repeat everything that's already been said. Jesus, I've heard this a hundred times. It's already been talked bout in the The Future of Music book. Instead of just throwing ideas out, how about Mark Cuban actually comes up with a business model to use?

mht
04/03/07, 12:43 PM
My goal is to shake his hand someday.

Adrian Villagomez
04/03/07, 12:45 PM
My goal is to shake his hand someday.I'm sure he'd be find with that - seems like a very approachable guy.

What's with the Sugar Gay pic in your sig?

Gunwalls
04/03/07, 12:46 PM
You know some people would still like to hav ecd players in their cars to listen too. Not everyone has an ipod jack in their BMW. Jackass.

wegiveblood
04/03/07, 12:46 PM
Actually, it's not that bad. The business might be dying, but its the business of selling CDs.


As long as the music doesn't die, we're good.

KickOutTheJams
04/03/07, 12:47 PM
Hi i'm Mark Cuban i can buy god. I def don't listent to emo.

PoliticalMike
04/03/07, 12:48 PM
Mark Cuban is financing the distribution of "Loose Change" a movie that questions the official 9/11 story. Something doesn't smell right about the whole situation. I smell an attempt to marginalize and pigeon hole.

Iamhome
04/03/07, 12:55 PM
I don't think i'll ever stop buying cd's... They might be more expensive, but It's the best way for me to keep a hard copy, a good looking one at that. I put all of my music on my computer, and on my IPOD put the cd back in it's case, and put it in its spot on the shelf. Any time I want to read the lyrics, or look at the artwork, it's right there for me. I love that aspect of CD's. I'm afraid the reason I WILL stop buying cd's is because they are no longer available. However, I don't see that as something that will happen anytime soon. Big business can't thrive off of them, but Independent artists can still sell them and make profit.

LPMagic
04/03/07, 12:56 PM
The CD isn't dead. Hundreds of thousands are sold every week. Is it a dying market? Yeah, because everything is going digital and piracy is at an all time high. But ask The Shins or Modest Mouse if the CD is dead, look around at the missing copies in the aisles of your local Best Buy, take a look at all the preorders for albums each month. It's never going to be what it was in the late 90s, and ever since Napster came to the forefront, it's been on a decline. You don't have to be a billionaire to realize what's happened the last decade, but apparently you do need to be one to repeat a false claim that's been stated hundreds of times over as if it's some new and remarkable discovery.

- Jeff

captainamazing4
04/03/07, 12:59 PM
he's a little cuckoo, but i'm sure everyone already knows this :]

chiodos13
04/03/07, 12:59 PM
He may be right about this, but the mavs aren't winning the title this year... nor are they making the finals

weworemasks
04/03/07, 01:00 PM
I don't think i'll ever stop buying cd's... They might be more expensive, but It's the best way for me to keep a hard copy, a good looking one at that. I put all of my music on my computer, and on my IPOD put the cd back in it's case, and put it in its spot on the shelf. Any time I want to read the lyrics, or look at the artwork, it's right there for me. I love that aspect of CD's. I'm afraid the reason I WILL stop buying cd's is because they are no longer available. However, I don't see that as something that will happen anytime soon. Big business can't thrive off of them, but Independent artists can still sell them and make profit.

we are the same. i agree 100%.

Adrian Villagomez
04/03/07, 01:00 PM
The CD isn't dead. Hundreds of thousands are sold every week. Is it a dying market? Yeah, because everything is going digital and piracy is at an all time high. But ask The Shins or Modest Mouse if the CD is dead, look around at the missing copies in the aisles of your local Best Buy, take a look at all the preorders for albums each month. It's never going to be what it was in the late 90s, and ever since Napster came to the forefront, it's been on a decline. You don't have to be a billionaire to realize what's happened the last decade, but apparently you do need to be one to repeat a false claim that's been stated hundreds of times over as if it's some new and remarkable discovery.

- JeffJeff wins again.

Iamhome
04/03/07, 01:13 PM
The CD isn't dead. Hundreds of thousands are sold every week. Is it a dying market? Yeah, because everything is going digital and piracy is at an all time high. But ask The Shins or Modest Mouse if the CD is dead, look around at the missing copies in the aisles of your local Best Buy, take a look at all the preorders for albums each month. It's never going to be what it was in the late 90s, and ever since Napster came to the forefront, it's been on a decline. You don't have to be a billionaire to realize what's happened the last decade, but apparently you do need to be one to repeat a false claim that's been stated hundreds of times over as if it's some new and remarkable discovery.

- Jeff

Smart man..

we are the same. i agree 100%.

:highfive: good work team.

Jeff wins again.

Yes, he does.

aminorthreat55
04/03/07, 01:13 PM
The solution to the problem is in the jurassic business model that the major labels attempt to employ. Fix the inefficiencies to match with the efficiency of modern communications and they'll be golden for another 30 years until they fuck it up again.

WarpSpeedChewy
04/03/07, 01:24 PM
The CD isn't dead. Hundreds of thousands are sold every week. Is it a dying market? Yeah, because everything is going digital and piracy is at an all time high. But ask The Shins or Modest Mouse if the CD is dead, look around at the missing copies in the aisles of your local Best Buy, take a look at all the preorders for albums each month. It's never going to be what it was in the late 90s, and ever since Napster came to the forefront, it's been on a decline. You don't have to be a billionaire to realize what's happened the last decade, but apparently you do need to be one to repeat a false claim that's been stated hundreds of times over as if it's some new and remarkable discovery.

- Jeff
Where's your Maverick blog. I'd rather listen to you about CDs than Mark Cuban.

FatJordan
04/03/07, 01:27 PM
Am I one of the only people here who think Mark Cuban is a genius?

thedrummingpuma
04/03/07, 01:29 PM
The CD isn't dead. Hundreds of thousands are sold every week. Is it a dying market? Yeah, because everything is going digital and piracy is at an all time high. But ask The Shins or Modest Mouse if the CD is dead, look around at the missing copies in the aisles of your local Best Buy, take a look at all the preorders for albums each month. It's never going to be what it was in the late 90s, and ever since Napster came to the forefront, it's been on a decline. You don't have to be a billionaire to realize what's happened the last decade, but apparently you do need to be one to repeat a false claim that's been stated hundreds of times over as if it's some new and remarkable discovery.

- Jeff

I agree. I also think consumers have so many more options when it comes to music these days thanks to the interwebs.

In my opinion if the majors still want to sell cd's they need to make more effort to try to keep the price down. 9.99 can influence me to take a chance on a cd so much better then one that's 13.99. It's sad to see an industry that is supposed to be full of "creative" thinking people fall on their asses with the number game.

I don't think cd is completly dead like Cuban thinks. How do the songs on my ipod get there. I don't buy stuff off of itunes. I personaly like something tangible in my hand upon purchase. I don't get that feeling downloading off of itunes or whatever source.

My main point(and I appluad you for reading my post) is that the industry needs to stop looking for excuses.

snakeinmyboots
04/03/07, 01:30 PM
i agree with him.

TyroneShoolaces
04/03/07, 01:34 PM
ok Cuban. spent more time trying to acquire the Chicago Cubs, then maybe we won't suck so much.

thisismyname
04/03/07, 01:35 PM
Long live CD's.

FU Itunes.

Tony
04/03/07, 01:46 PM
As long as I can get a CD that places no restrictions on how I choose to listen to the content for about the same price as an album on iTunes, the CD will be alive and well for me. I bought close to 200 CDs last year and I'll probably do the same again this year.

Spicoli hey bud
04/03/07, 01:53 PM
The CD isn't dead. Hundreds of thousands are sold every week. Is it a dying market? Yeah, because everything is going digital and piracy is at an all time high. But ask The Shins or Modest Mouse if the CD is dead, look around at the missing copies in the aisles of your local Best Buy, take a look at all the preorders for albums each month. It's never going to be what it was in the late 90s, and ever since Napster came to the forefront, it's been on a decline. You don't have to be a billionaire to realize what's happened the last decade, but apparently you do need to be one to repeat a false claim that's been stated hundreds of times over as if it's some new and remarkable discovery.

- Jeff
To a man like Mark Cuban, this decline is enough to constitute death. He doesn't actually mean that the CD is a dead product, but essentially he is correct (although it is pretty apparent to the rest of the world as well). And he is also correct in saying that there has yet to be a viable idea to help solve this growing problem. The music industry is in a state of "what the fuck do we do" right now, and while there will always be loyal consumers (fuck, some people even still buy vinyl), ultimately "the CD is dead."

xerovision1
04/03/07, 01:53 PM
he's right about some stuff, but music will never be the kind of business it once was. so much music complemented by so much media, and not enough money to pay for it all.

LPMagic
04/03/07, 02:13 PM
To a man like Mark Cuban, this decline is enough to constitute death.
A billionaire, professional sports team owner who's made his money trying to push new technology? Of course. With his extremely exclusive perception of dollars and cents, there could be an argument that a lot of things are "dying."

He doesn't actually mean that the CD is a dead product, but essentially he is correct (although it is pretty apparent to the rest of the world as well). And he is also correct in saying that there has yet to be a viable idea to help solve this growing problem.
People still make a living off of selling CDs. The market for them still exists, and it's not just a "niche."

The music industry is in a state of "what the fuck do we do" right now, and while there will always be loyal consumers (fuck, some people even still buy vinyl), ultimately "the CD is dead."
I still think Cuban has an extremely narrow minded view of the industry. Just because the major labels aren't making the bank they were before filesharing doesn't mean everyone should go in a frenzy and start claiming compact discs have no place being sold in the mainstream.

And for the record, I consistently buy CDs and vinyl while on a very limited budget. So maybe my view is "skewed" too, but I still think Cuban is exaggerating. I'd even go so far as to say there's a hidden agenda behind his rant, but that's all up for conspiracy theorists to dispute.

- Jeff

Russellmcdoogle
04/03/07, 02:14 PM
You've got to consider this site's demographic. Most of us will buy CDs forever; the mass consumer will not.

LPMagic
04/03/07, 02:19 PM
You've got to consider this site's demographic. Most of us will buy CDs forever; the mass consumer will not.
The sales of hip hop / R&B, American Idol, and Now That's What I Call Music releases refute this point.

- Jeff

michael6820
04/03/07, 02:35 PM
yeah man the music industry is messed up...ever since Paul McCartney outted himself. THE CD IS DEAD!

mcr_fob_aarx3
04/03/07, 02:49 PM
Both Itunes and Limewire have taken over. And if people do buy CD's they copy and burn them for other friends. The CD is now the equivalent to a VHS tape in comparison to a DVD: very rare to come by...

_kate
04/03/07, 03:46 PM
i just got home from spending a good 40 minutes cruising through an indie record store and buying 5 cds (along with two i bought on sunday)

if the cd is dead, i'm happy to be behind the times.

(and i didn't read the article, just going off of the title here)

punklet2101
04/03/07, 03:48 PM
I hate it when people say the CD is dead.. it makes me sad

ZeoVGM
04/03/07, 04:15 PM
This is the same douchebag who thinks America caused 9/11, right?

If so, anything he says is wrong, even if it's right. Heh.

krisko
04/03/07, 04:54 PM
lets go heat.

converter
04/03/07, 05:03 PM
Welcome to five years ago. Where has this guy been??

LPMagic
04/03/07, 05:06 PM
The CD is now the equivalent to a VHS tape in comparison to a DVD: very rare to come by...
This is why I stereotype people by their screen name / post count on AP.net. It's wrong to do, but it proves itself right again and again.

- Jeff

lou<>phillips
04/03/07, 05:50 PM
You know some people would still like to hav ecd players in their cars to listen too. Not everyone has an ipod jack in their BMW. Jackass.

word.

sheisarebel
04/03/07, 08:26 PM
I don't think the music industry should completely get rid of CDs and CD players. What the hell else would I listen to when I'm in between Ipods?? Eventually Ipods do break, and, like most, I have to either wait for a significant holiday or my birthday to receive a new one. Music stores should still offer CDs as an option. Let ALL consumers decide on whether or not they want to buy them as well as their players. Personally, I love holding a brand new CD case in the palm of my hands the day the album drops in stores. But that's just me.

PoliticalMike
04/03/07, 09:51 PM
This is the same douchebag who thinks America caused 9/11, right?

If so, anything he says is wrong, even if it's right. Heh.

Incorrect. Cuban supports the release of the "Loose Change" documentary, but stated he doesn't support the ideas presented in it.

FYI, I may not go so far as to shout government complicity, but I am of the mind thatthe official 9/11 story as we know it is not completely true. I doubt we will ever know the full truth of what really happened in the time leading up to and that day itself.

Hainzey X
04/03/07, 10:05 PM
I hate this, but you can't argue the fact that he is right. I'd hate to see the compact disc die. I love buying CDs and having a hard copy of the music complete with artwork and lyrics and all that stuff. I just bought the Almost & academy is...CDs today. Ill never fully support digital downloading but I feel like sadly, some day, ill have no choice to give into it.

allthruwinter
04/03/07, 10:06 PM
The cd is NOT dead. I own a stereo system and there is nothing i love more than making mixes and blaring them through that thing. That is something that a fucking IHOME could never touch. I could give a shit less about Ipods and technology there is nothing like album art and records and cds and true appreciation of what the artists we love have to go through to make an album. I'll probably get eaten alive for that alone but whatever.

Mscales67
04/03/07, 11:35 PM
lets go heat.

fuck you and your heat



sorry i just still cant get over last season....

Yes. And?
04/04/07, 12:03 AM
fuck ipods. the fact that so many people in the world are depending on this one company for music, doesn't sit right with me. No wonder ipods are so overpriced, apple has a monoply, basically(nobody gives a shit about zune). and it seems like every year, some new ipod model is coming out, so you have to go spend another couple hundred...even if you've got more than enough space for songs on your old model. And the battery life is a joke. Cd's really let you feel like you own the music, and that's a good thing. I'll take a special edition of "The Black Parade" and all its extras over an ipod any day. And I'm the kinda person who has to grow into songs. If I had just downloaded songs, I would only like MCR's 'Mama' and 'Teenagers'....assuming I bothered to check out their past work, I'd have only dug 'Helena', 'You Know What They Do To Guys Like Us In Prison', and I'd probably never have checked out "Bullets", but if I did, I'd have only downloaded 'Vampires Will Never Hurt You'. Since I didn't have the option of picking and choosing songs..and had to buy the cd's, I've had time to grow to love every song. Which I do. And if I downloaded "Full Collaspe" songs...the only one I would have bothered with would have been "Cross Out The Eyes". Still working on that disc a bit, though. The point of my rant? Ipods have no soul. I'll hold out against them as long as I can. I only succumbed to a dvd player a few months ago..and only have two dvd's of my own. And I don't have a cell phone and don't fucking need one. Down with technology!

lalalalovely
04/04/07, 01:27 AM
The cd is NOT dead. I own a stereo system and there is nothing i love more than making mixes and blaring them through that thing. That is something that a fucking IHOME could never touch. I could give a shit less about Ipods and technology there is nothing like album art and records and cds and true appreciation of what the artists we love have to go through to make an album. I'll probably get eaten alive for that alone but whatever.

thats one of my big issues with the whole "the cd is dead" thing, a home stereo's sound makes something like an i dock seem worthless. one of the main reasons i still buy cds is that i like to listen to music at home too (and it's that much better if i can feel the bass shake the floor)

lalalalovely
04/04/07, 01:28 AM
This is why I stereotype people by their screen name / post count on AP.net. It's wrong to do, but it proves itself right again and again.

- Jeff

though normally a pet peeve of mine, you're dead on in this case

PoliticalMike
04/04/07, 06:42 AM
thats one of my big issues with the whole "the cd is dead" thing, a home stereo's sound makes something like an i dock seem worthless. one of the main reasons i still buy cds is that i like to listen to music at home too (and it's that much better if i can feel the bass shake the floor)


Most high end sound cards (x-fi) can easily produce the same quality as a home sound system while offering the same outputs in the back.

smeguy
04/04/07, 08:56 PM
if there's still a market for vynl, CDs will still stay alive. Maybe not as mainstream, but theres no way people are going to stop making CDs entirely.

PoliticalMike
04/05/07, 12:19 PM
if there's still a market for vynl, CDs will still stay alive. Maybe not as mainstream, but theres no way people are going to stop making CDs entirely.


Yeah, if vinyl is still selling, we will sell fine too.

Signed,
8-Tracks & Cassette Tapes

smeguy
04/29/07, 07:37 AM
8 tracks and casettes are completely impractical. The beauty of CDs is that you can rip them in any format you want, without any DRM. You also get the actual booklet too, thats a good thing. and if your harddrive crashes and you don't have CDs, you're pretty much fucked.

LPMagic
04/29/07, 10:55 AM
Yeah, if vinyl is still selling, we will sell fine too.

Signed,
8-Tracks & Cassette Tapes
Each post I see of yours I think less and less of you. Simply put, you're an idiot.

- Jeff