WWE, TNA, ROH (Official Thread)

[xZiggyStardustx]

Yeah nice job on Joe's part. I dont know why they trusted Hall in the first place. The guy is a hack.

And if he had food poisoning, wouldnt he have contacted TNA and told them he could make it?

[nightskies]

damn, just finished watching turning point. joe is awesome. i read that he was looking at dixie carter, when he said go ahead fire me. and also that they had a meeting today and dixie carter said that anyone who wanted their release could have it on the spot and low ki took it. damn.

[TellYourFriends]

Yea, kinda sad to see Senshi go. I was looking forward to a few more Outsiders matches too. Damn shame.

[nightskies]

i'm surprised no one else left. i thought a lot of people were trying to get their releases not too long ago.

[TellYourFriends]

Haha. The shot at TNA and Scott Hall when Kennedy thanked "Razor Ramon" for actually showing up was funny.

[EnderDove]

So I just happen to turn on RAW, the second Lilian said "hired protection", I knew the APA was on their way out. When the music hit, I started laughing. Ahhh, so funny. Not quite the good old days, but close enough.

[Lost Glories]

i just want to comment on the "worked shoot" promo given by Joe.

i was just like you guys with the "yeah joe RULES!" but then when i gave it more thought i smell Vince Russo all over this. He did this in WCW too putting over Booker and Jarrett.

i think it puts the company down for making bad business decisions by putting Hall in a Main Event Situation with his reputation.

Hopefully this is the "Turning Point" for TNA

[Kif]

He did it at Bash Of The Beach when Hulk no-showed I think.

As "worked" as it was, even if it was a work, everything Joe said is true. Nash has been free-loading off the the X Division for a long time now, and couldn't put any of them over (Except Black Machismo). Kurt Angle hasn't put ANYONE over. VKM won't either. Hell they beat MCMG in 90 seconds! The only people I can think who actually do want to work with "TNA originals" is Christian and Tomko. Team 3D maybe, but no one cares about Team 3D anyway so that doesn't matter.

[EnderDove]

I'm glad to see Low Ki leaving, if he really did. ROH return would be very nice.

[Christian Lee]

I'm really curious as to just how serious the beef is between Nash and Joe. Supposedly, they're truly not on good terms now after the supposed altercation between the two backstage after the shoot/match. I agreed with some of what Joe said, but regardless of how much of it was work or shoot, he didn't need to dog Kevin Nash in front the PPV buyers.

Joe can call Nash "old" all he wants, but if I was Nash I woulda been like "I may be 20 years older, but at least I'm better shape". (lol). I like Joe but I'm sick of him believing his own hype. Just because he's over in TNA, doesn't mean he's over with the rest of the wrestling audience, because the vast majority of wrestling fans look at him and say to themselves..."This guy is the future of the business???"

[chokeychicken]

wait a minute. Michaels and Cena had a 50 minute match on RAW in April of this year?! really?

[EvilButters]

wait a minute. Michaels and Cena had a 50 minute match on RAW in April of this year?! really?

Yeah, it was actually a hell of a lot better than their match at Wrestlemania, too. If it's not the match of the year from WWE, then it's definitely a candidate.

[chokeychicken]

i'm going to pick up the michaels dvd. right now.

[EvilButters]

That DVD looks like it has some really great matches on it. You'll have to tell us what you think of it.

[Lost Glories]

I'm glad to see Low Ki leaving, if he really did. ROH return would be very nice.

he burned his bridge no showing a long while ago.

dont hold your breath.

[Lost Glories]

I'm glad to see Low Ki leaving, if he really did. ROH return would be very nice.

he burned his bridge no showing a long while ago.

dont hold your breath.

[EnderDove]

he burned his bridge no showing a long while ago.

dont hold your breath.

he burned his bridge no showing a long while ago.

dont hold your breath.


You must have REALLY meant it. :-)

Well shit, that deflated me a bit.

[Kif]

Might see him in PWG though.

[DaveFeelsRight]

the hbk dvd is sick

[EnderDove]

Might see him in PWG though.

Yaaaaay. Lets hope he doesn't fuck that up, too.

[DaveFeelsRight]

1995 royal rumble=amazing

[xZiggyStardustx]

Hornswoggle = annoying midget that should have gotten fired a long time ago

[gilatron5000]

I'm watching last weeks Smackdown, for whatever reason I hadn't watched it, and for some reason, I felt the need to. Someone tell me WHY they need to film Khali on such an extreme angle. I GET IT. HE'S TALL.

[xZiggyStardustx]

because its "Sports Entertainment"....

[heavydistortion]

I'm watching last weeks Smackdown, for whatever reason I hadn't watched it, and for some reason, I felt the need to. Someone tell me WHY they need to film Khali on such an extreme angle. I GET IT. HE'S TALL.

lol. yeah that makes me laugh all the time! its like the camera guy is laying on his back sometimes. and on a somewhat related note, i also find it comical how the commentators exaggerate heights of ladders/cages/falls so frequently. they say something like "so and so just fell right of the ladder! that mustve been 20 feet. but clearly when the wrestler stands next to it, hes like 3/4 the height of the ladder making it 10 at most. buuutttt i understand its all to play it up for the home audience, so i dont have a problem with it, i just think its funny.

[EnderDove]

1995 royal rumble=amazing

Not as good as '92, but still awesome.


As for the midget and the giant. Vince likes extremes, tall and huge, short and tiny. It will never change, don't get too worked up about it.

Although, there is one extreme he doesn't care for...ECW.

[chokeychicken]

i really hope they do some great things for the rumble.

[Kif]

Not as good as '92, but still awesome.


As for the midget and the giant. Vince likes extremes, tall and huge, short and tiny. It will never change, don't get too worked up about it.

Although, there is one extreme he doesn't care for...ECW.
I think you mean VelociheatCW :shrug:

I haven't seen that much of HBK's older stuff so I might check out his DVD. I did just get BOLA07 though, and Honor Nation leaked on XWT. I'll make room for HBK I think though.

[gilatron5000]

Not as good as '92, but still awesome.


As for the midget and the giant. Vince likes extremes, tall and huge, short and tiny. It will never change, don't get too worked up about it.

Although, there is one extreme he doesn't care for...ECW.
I know, it's just, when they shoot at an angle that makes the translator look huge, they need to take it down a notch.

Since when was ECW extreme?:-|

[Goodbye Forever]

Impact crushed ECW in the ratings last night (1.1 to 0.6)... While it's not that big a deal seeing as ECW is pretty much a joke, TNA has to feel somewhat good about that.

[pewpewpewpew]

Booker T on TNA = LOL.

[EnderDove]

Impact crushed ECW in the ratings last night (1.1 to 0.6)... While it's not that big a deal seeing as ECW is pretty much a joke, TNA has to feel somewhat good about that.

It's a very small win, but still a win.

[Kif]

I'm certain we will be hearing about this in Impact at the next tapings. Besides it's not like TNA's ratings go up ever.

[EnderDove]

I know, it's just, when they shoot at an angle that makes the translator look huge, they need to take it down a notch.

Since when was ECW extreme?:-|

1994-2001. Not the WWECW, I try and pretend it doesn't exist.

[Kif]

1994-2001. Not the WWECW, I try and pretend it doesn't exist.
I think he was joking.

[gilatron5000]

1994-2001. Not the WWECW, I try and pretend it doesn't exist.Yeah, I was referring to the current incarnation(it was a small joke too). It's Smackdown-Lite. I tried to like it, I really did.

[EnderDove]

I think he was joking.

Yeah, I was referring to the current incarnation(it was a small joke too). It's Smackdown-Lite. I tried to like it, I really did.

Well, I knew he was talking about the current brand, so yeah...I don't know. I knew he was joking, but my response makes me look like an idiot no matter what, damn.

[Kif]

It makes you look like a smark :-p

God I hate that word haha.

Just got Honor Nation, although it is 4:20am. Debating whether to at least watch Necro/Mark Briscoe before I go to bed.

[EnderDove]

It makes you look like a smark :-p

God I hate that word haha.

Just got Honor Nation, although it is 4:20am. Debating whether to at least watch Necro/Mark Briscoe before I go to bed.

Indeed; smart mark is still a mark.

[Kif]

Oh my god. I'm watching Butcher/Jay (Got that slightly wrong haha), and Butcher's elbow was dislocated before the match even started. This is the first thing that has made me want to hurl while watching wrestling. It's just disgusting.

[Lost Glories]

Yeah, I was referring to the current incarnation(it was a small joke too). It's Smackdown-Lite. I tried to like it, I really did.

from what i have seen i think its the most solid show out of the three.

but with school finals coming i havent seen much.

[pewpewpewpew]

Raw is going to be fucking absurd tonight, I really hope DX comes out and does something funny and not fucking that stupid Revolution shit. I hate Triple H as a bad guy.

[underdog217]

raw will be off the hook, im trying to avoid wrestlezone like the plague but west coast means i have three more hours til we go live and i cant post here anymore because if someone spoils something im gonna kill myself.
my hope is that during the battle royal for the last entrant we see 5,4,3,2,1.......... IF YA SMELL?! and i jizz everywhere

[pewpewpewpew]

LOL I fucking love Triple H.


"Whatever Clinton."

[pewpewpewpew]

LOL at Jerry Brisco and Pat Patterson


"That doesn't suprise me."

[pewpewpewpew]

Shawn Michaels just cut a semi funny promo by himself.

[pewpewpewpew]

Holy fuck RVD!

[DaveFeelsRight]

what did i miss in the first hour? my cable has been out all night and i just got it back

[pewpewpewpew]

RVD did one move to Santino.

Evolution faced off against Rated RKO+Umaga.


Lots of fake titties from the God Father's Ho Train.

[pewpewpewpew]

They have the Hulk come out to fight the worst wreslter ever in Khali? LOLOLOL

[DaveFeelsRight]

al snow!

[pewpewpewpew]

holy fuck al snow this is gonna be great. DOINK!

[pewpewpewpew]

they should sign fucking Steve Blackman back up. He looks fucking stacked.

[DaveFeelsRight]

mean street posse, how i forgot about them

[pewpewpewpew]

There are some fucking winners in this match.

[DaveFeelsRight]

omg scotty 2 hotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pewpewpewpew]

Jesus fucking H Christ are they serious with this. LOL @ the Sparklers.

[gilatron5000]

HAHAHA Gillberg. Man, this battle royale will be amusing

[DaveFeelsRight]

gillberg!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pewpewpewpew]

lolololol

[pewpewpewpew]

If Sgt. Slaughter loses I am done watching this shitty show forever.

[pewpewpewpew]

LOL Fucking Yes. Million Dollar Man just made up for that.

[pewpewpewpew]

Lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllolol olollllll

[DaveFeelsRight]

million dollar man <3

[EvilButters]

Raw is going to be fucking absurd tonight, I really hope DX comes out and does something funny and not fucking that stupid Revolution shit. I hate Triple H as a bad guy.

You are like the only person ever to not like Triple H as a heel. He's so much more awesome as a heel. Revolution is quite bad ass, too. Also, Gillberg ftw.

[pewpewpewpew]

Triple H as a baddie makes WWE a shitty.

[gilatron5000]

You are like the only person ever to not like Triple H as a heel. He's so much more awesome as a heel. Revolution is quite bad ass, too. Also, Gillberg ftw.shhh, you're not supposed to like the bad guys.

That being said, Triple H is pretty good either way.

[theESCO]

of course tonight is the night my DVR fucks up and doesnt record RAW.

Anyone know anyplace that will have it for download like...tonight.

[pewpewpewpew]

Lita is looking hottttt as fuck.

[pewpewpewpew]

DX! yay.

[gilatron5000]

of course tonight is the night my DVR fucks up and doesnt record RAW.

Anyone know anyplace that will have it for download like...tonight.Same here. But I'm not blaming my DVR, I'm blaming the listing. It's not listed this week as "WWE Monday Night Raw" so my DVR didn't think it was supposed to. Or something.

[DaveFeelsRight]

no rock. boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo

[DaveFeelsRight]

IS CM PUNK HAVING A BEER?!!?!?!?


x

[pewpewpewpew]

CM PUNK BROKE EDGE DRINKIN A BEER WITH STONE COLD



bahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaha

[pewpewpewpew]

YES


I SAW PUNK WITH A BEER ON MY TV IN THE RING lololol

[DaveFeelsRight]

bahahahahahhahahahahahaha he is a lie. all lies!

[pewpewpewpew]

fucking hilarious. he was one of the first ones walking down into the ring and i was like... what the fuck is he gonna do? do they have a sprite set aside just for him?

[DaveFeelsRight]

hahahha oh man. that was great.

[nightskies]

bhahahah wtf

[theESCO]

it was a can of coke, william regal was drinking the same thing (recovering alcoholic)

[pewpewpewpew]

how can you make that accurate call unless your TV has 200 percent zoom angles included in it. It was come down and drink a beer with Stone Cold not come down and show what a pussy you can be.

[theESCO]

how can you make that accurate call unless your TV has 200 percent zoom angles included in it. It was come down and drink a beer with Stone Cold not come down and show what a pussy you can be.

im just assuming. but you can clearly see regal with a can of coke when the camera was on the announcers side of the ring.

[Vincewithouthee]

Steve Blackman made Raw for me. He has the greatest music ever.

[theESCO]

Steve Blackman made Raw for me. He has the greatest music ever.

STEVE BLACKMAN!?!?!?!?!? fuck i need to find somewhere to download.

[AshesAshes]

Hahahaha,IRS wins!!!!!!!!!Than the Million Dollar Man this is fantastic

[AshesAshes]

Hahaha,not so fast Million Dollar Man bought his way to victory I love that laugh

[DaveFeelsRight]

jericho's first appearance ever in the wwe...i remember watching that shit.
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[chokeychicken]

i probably marked out 20 times tonight during RAW. what a great broadcast. I really liked how they integrated the anniversary aspect into current storylines the best they could. lots of surprises. would have liked to have seen rock, but that will never happen.

blackman made my night. he looked great.

i am pumped for armageddon.

[pewpewpewpew]

They really need to fucking sign Blackman... dude looked better than some current stars.

[Lost Glories]

They really need to fucking sign Blackman... dude looked better than some current stars.

he has said before he is done with wrestling.

he has a lance storm perspective.

but punk was drinking a pepsi. the can was blue like the miller light they were drinking. relax kids. he then drank it sandman style.

AGWjywWXxbw

[Lost Glories]

it was also a complete shock to me to see rvd.

he is wrestling booker in PWA soon.

[last light]

RVD was the only thing that really shocked me. The crowds love that guy.

[pewpewpewpew]

Lol at Triple H pooring beer on Mickie James. They cut that part off on tv. He loves the ladies.

[Andy K]

RAW was pretty good last night. My favorite parts were RVD and the Ted Dibiase bit. I was kind of surprised that Hacksaw Jim Duggan wasn't given a small part somewhere. I really mark out for that guy even that he is old as dirt, but he sure makes me laugh and yell out "hooooooo."

[chokeychicken]

the whole "hey steph" bit made me laugh.

[pewpewpewpew]

Triple H did like 100 things last night. The opening with Steph... then he was part of Evolution... then he fucking comes down with Michaels to throw on a DX shirt and give a suck it chop lol.

[Goodbye Forever]

That was pretty fun. I don't think I've marked out more recently than when RVD's music hit. The Trips/Steph stuff was funny, Ted DiBiase will always be awesome, the Cody/Dusty celebration was a nice moment, Jannetty seemed coke out but he was still pretty good in the ring, the Trish/Lita segment was cool and the Lita/Kane/Simmons backstage moment was pure gold, and then ending pretty much delivered exactly what we all expected. Definitely the best Raw in recent memory.

Anyone else notice Hogan tease Savage when he said, "Never say never"? Looks like it's going to be Hogan/Khali at WM, but I'm pretty sure everyone would rather see Savage/Hogan.

[pewpewpewpew]

I was bummed Mick Foley didn't talk. It really didn't even look like him.


Also I thought Doink was in a very good heel form walking down to the ring like a typical asshole bad guy style. Scotty 2 Hotty looked very not in wrestling form.

[Goodbye Forever]

The only Trips that was missing...

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[pewpewpewpew]

correction: this was the trips that was missing:

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lollllllllllllllllll best storyline ever

[EvilButters]

Triple H did like 100 things last night. The opening with Steph... then he was part of Evolution... then he fucking comes down with Michaels to throw on a DX shirt and give a suck it chop lol.

100...3...close enough. He was in the show quite a bit more than everyone else, but he's also been around longer than a lot of other superstars.

I was bummed Mick Foley didn't talk. It really didn't even look like him.

Are you serious? He just had long hair.

[TellYourFriends]

I just watched the special. Pretty good overall I thought. The highlights for me were defiantly seeing Sunny again and Gilberg.

[xZiggyStardustx]

Triple H and the dummy was so much better than the Torrie/Dawn thing in 2002

[theESCO]

if anyone missed the show.
http://www.watchtvsitcoms.com/wrestling-JV.php

[OtherBen]

any opinions on armageddon and raw?

i thought kennedy and michaels wasn't a bad match and it was nice to see trips put hardy over.

overall, disappointing though, rey and mvp was looking good until the end.

[Andy K]

Wow, 8 days without a post.

I have only watched a little bit of Armageddon online, but RAW last week was pretty decent. I enjoyed the Ric Flair vs. Umaga match. Also I enjoyed seeing Santino Marella & Carlito as a tag team.

I have been really impressed with Shannon Moore & Jimmy Wang Yang as a tag team on ECW the last couple of weeks. Those two work really well together.

[chokeychicken]

i'm pissed. i don't want to see jericho fued with JBL. fucking worst storyline ever. i wanted jericho to win the title and be set up for a huge WM main event. way to drop the ball.

[Kif]

How is that worst storyline ever? At least now we'll get some good promos unlike the Jericho/Orton feud.

[Vincewithouthee]

i'm pissed. i don't want to see jericho fued with JBL. fucking worst storyline ever. i wanted jericho to win the title and be set up for a huge WM main event. way to drop the ball.

I think Y2J-JBL is gonna be awesome. I am pretty pissed that Jericho isn't getting the title anytime soon but we should've expected that. HHH is probably gonna get the title eventually or someone else. Orton as the champion is terrible to have.

[Goodbye Forever]

Even if Bradshaw blows in the ring, the feud should be gold for entertainment purposes.

[nightskies]

leaving for final battle in an hour!

[nightskies]

if hero wins the title tonight ill be so pissed.

[jordan22]

Can anyone tell me what is the best ROH DVD to begin with? I've been reading a lot about the company, but I've yet to see any matches.

[Kif]

They are bringing out 2 best of DVDs pretty soon I think, one of the bloodiest matches and another of old ROH alumni. But if you are in a hurry, the Final Battle DVDs are usually a great starter.

Oh, and hell yeah Age of the Fall Out Boy won the belts!

[nightskies]

yaa AOTF! final battle was awesome. im lookin forward to stevens vs danielson next weekend.

[Kif]

http://www.ageofthefall.com/images/IMG_3953.JPG

Jimmy looks pretty crazy there actually. And Tyler looks a little like BJ...

[chokeychicken]

picked up jericho's book in barnes & noble last night. the stuff about benoit is chilling.

[Goodbye Forever]

Even though it's passed, how about some end of the year thoughts from you guys...

Wrestler Of The Year:
Match Of The Year:
Fed Of The Year:
Tag Team Of The Year:
Most Improved Wrestler:
Worst Wrestler:
Best Feud:

Feel free to add whatever.

[nightskies]

gail kim vs kong from last night was good

[Goodbye Forever]

That's the one thing TNA has going for them right now... Their women's division is really solid. Kim, Kong, ODB, Jackie, Roxxi... As long as they don't pretend Christy Hemme is actually a wrestler (and maybe bring in one more legit wrestler, perhaps getting Molly Holly out of retirement) the division should remain the most entertaining part of the fed.

Edit: I just read through the results, and apparently Shelly Martinez debuted last night. That should be another boost.

[Kif]

Yeah, she hit Christy and stripped. Truly a great moment for women's wrestling. In all seriousness she was awesome at BFG, so I can't wait for her to get in the ring more. And yeah Kong/Kim was just vicious. First time I've seen a women's match like that.

[nightskies]

kong vs kim rematch on impact. this really is the best part of tna right now.

[Goodbye Forever]

I love Jeff Hardy... The spot about 1:15 or so into this video is one of the best in recent WWE memory, and the expression on Randy's face afterwards is priceless.

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[Kif]

That was ridiculous. I can't wait for their match at the Rumble.

[Handy Man]

i never watched WWE until last saturday (it started to be broadcasted in brazil)

do they really think people will believe all of that is true???? I mean...what's the fun of that? isn't everything made up???

[msheeley23]

Wrestler Of The Year: "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson (WWE: Jeff Hardy; TNA: Christian Cage)

Match Of The Year: John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels from Wrestlemania 23 (ROH: The Briscoe Brothers vs. Kevin Steen and El Generico Ladder War from Man Up; TNA: **Didn't watch enough TNA in 2007 to decide**)

Fed Of The Year: Ring of Honor

Tag Team Of The Year: The Briscoe Brothers (WWE: Paul London and Brian Kendrick; TNA: Motor City Machine Guns)

Most Improved Wrestler: MVP (ROH: Erick Stevens; TNA: **See Match of the Year**)

Most Underrated Wrestler: Shelton Benjamin (ROH: Davey Richards; TNA: Homicide)

Most Overrated Wrestler(s): Batista (ROH: Takeshi Morishima; TNA: Kevin Nash)

Best Feud: John Cena/Shawn Michaels (ROH: Bryan Danielson/Takeshi Morishima; TNA: TNA Management/Samoa Joe)

[chokeychicken]

I love Jeff Hardy... The spot about 1:15 or so into this video is one of the best in recent WWE memory, and the expression on Randy's face afterwards is priceless.

U7RjYEObHTQ

video is no longer available - what was the video of?

[Goodbye Forever]

Whisper in the wind off the top of the cage. Here's another one (about 4:00 in)...

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[nightskies]

Wrestler Of The Year: "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson (WWE: Jeff Hardy; TNA: Christian Cage)

Match Of The Year: John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels from Wrestlemania 23 (ROH: The Briscoe Brothers vs. Kevin Steen and El Generico Ladder War from Man Up; TNA: **Didn't watch enough TNA in 2007 to decide**)

Fed Of The Year: Ring of Honor

Tag Team Of The Year: The Briscoe Brothers (WWE: Paul London and Brian Kendrick; TNA: Motor City Machine Guns)

Most Improved Wrestler: MVP (ROH: Erick Stevens; TNA: **See Match of the Year**)

Most Underrated Wrestler: Shelton Benjamin (ROH: Davey Richards; TNA: Homicide)

Most Overrated Wrestler(s): Batista (ROH: Takeshi Morishima; TNA: Kevin Nash)

Best Feud: John Cena/Shawn Michaels (ROH: Bryan Danielson/Takeshi Morishima; TNA: TNA Management/Samoa Joe)

i hate the joe/tna management feud so much. it was cool how joe went off and ran his mouth off on that ppv unscripted, but then of course they had to turn it into a storyline and turn joe into a crying bitch.

[nightskies]

holy shit, briscoes, vulture squad aotf anything goes brawl in nj tonight was the greatest thing i've ever seen.

[Kif]

Of course the deserved champs won :-D

[chokeychicken]

that hardy bump reminds me of the fantastic angle/benoit cage match from richmond in 2002 on raw. what a match that was.

[msheeley23]

I think Jeff's done that before. Pretty sure it was against Edge and Christian at Unforgiven 2000.

[chokeychicken]

why the fuck did i have to go to page 6 to find this thread?

the rumble has me excited. and jericho's book is excellent.

[Kif]

No one comes in here anymore haha.

[EvilButters]

why the fuck did i have to go to page 6 to find this thread?

the rumble has me excited. and jericho's book is excellent.

I loved Jericho's book, man. The one thing that bothered me though was the amount of typos in it. Other than that, I really enjoyed it.

So what are everyone's predictions for the rumble? Mainly the rumble itself and the Hardy/Orton match.

[nightskies]

roh spoiler

I can't believe aotf lost the belts already. i'm so pissed. i wasn't even paying attention to the results last night b/c i figured no titles would change, and then i saw this when i woke up. damn.

[Kif]

Pretty much all I had to say to that was fuck the NRC.

[chokeychicken]

there's no way hardy or mysterio will win tonight. so that means they're going to have orton will go into wrestlemania with the belt. i could see HHH winning, i could see michaels winning. i just watched the entire miachaels dvd including match footage, so i'm kind of on an hbk high right now. i'm hoping he wins and goes into wm and wins. chances of that happening, i'm not sure.

its obvious that flair will continue to win until wrestelemania. thats been obvious since day one.

there's only 5 matches onthe card, so i just hope and pray that they give all of them the time they need to evolve and develop. because its a solid card - one of the best in months. i'm excited.

[pewpewpewpew]

Bobby Lashley signed with TNA.

[nightskies]

bhahah

[chokeychicken]

is it true that the big show lost 200 lbs?

[Goodbye Forever]

I haven't seen anything about that yet, but I really wouldn't even find that remotely surprising. The good thing for them is he's a relative big name talent. The downside is that he blows in the ring and sounds like a 12 year old on the stick.

[Goodbye Forever]

As for tonight, both champions come out on top (although putting Hardy/Orton last and having Jeff win in MSG establishes him as a money star, plus he can lose the rematch at the next PPV since Orton is definitely going to be in the title match at WM... Just wishful thinking), Flair wins thanks to Matt Hardy (Flair isn't losing but a clean job for MVP right now would be an awful move), JBL/Jericho ends by DQ one way or the other, and Trips is probably taking the Rumble, with Punk as a darkhorse. Final Four: Trips, Punk, Dave, Taker.

[Vincewithouthee]

It's probably gonna be HHH winning the rumble. I can't imagine anyone else, since heels never win Rumbles but that'd be nice to see I think. Big Show I heard lost around 100lbs or more and it's gonna be interesting to see how he looks. I'd like to see him return tonight most likely as a heel.

Hardy isn't gonna win the title, neither will Rey no way. Hardy may eventually get it in the long run but Taker's destined to get the title at WM yet obviously.

[xglassjawx]

I AM TOTALLY FUCKING WATCHING THIS LIVE TONIGHT!

A mate has like just this minute rang me about it and says he has got in on box office. :-) I couldn't work out how the fuck to do it on our TV. Bear in mind UK time this will be on at like 1AM-5AM ish to make it just that little bit more epic!

Gonna watch Rock-Mankind I Quit and the HHH-Cactus Jack Street Fight to get us in the mood. :-)

[chokeychicken]

i am so pumped for this.

[pewpewpewpew]

I have stopped watching shitty WWE since they don't even have Jericho running with the title.


Shitty Orton at WM? Seriously? Is that the best they can do with their talent? They are making TNA look so much better and all TNA has to do is sign the garbage WWE releases.

[Goodbye Forever]

Off to the bar, I haven't been this pumped for a PPV in a long time.

[Kif]

Buh gawd, Cena retains! Cena retains!

Wait I got that wrong.

[AshesAshes]

I was pumped for the ppv enjoyed it until John Cena came out....I fucking hate him fuck you WWE for him winning the rumble.

[Kif]

It could have been much worse. Batista or Triple H could have won it.

[nightskies]

bhahaha woww

[TellYourFriends]

I will admit, I was shocked. The last person I thought would come out was Cena.

[Jra1]

I used to hate John Cena, then it turned out he was a huge Tottenham fan, now I simply dislike him.

[EvilButters]

I like how this was just posted like last week:

Source: TheSun.co.uk

"The Sun" UK newspaper has conducted an exclusive interview with John Cena. Despite recent rumors that he is trying to return ahead of schedule in time for WrestleMania, Cena revealed that he will NOT be competing at WrestleMania 24 and that he will probably not return to WWE until shooting for his new movie wraps up at the end of May.

Here are the highlights:

-- John Cena will "definitely NOT" be competing at WrestleMania 24

-- Regarding an appearance at WrestleMania: “I most likely will be at WrestleMania in some capacity, but you probably won't see me on camera.

-- The good news for Cena's fans is he will almost certainly return to action as soon as shooting is over. The bad news is: “The movie will take up the bulk of my time through to US Memorial Day, which is at the end of May."

-- Physical Therapy: “I do four to six hours of physical therapy each day. My goal is get back into the ring as soon as possible. I'm sick of sitting on the sidelines."

-- His Upcoming Movie: “I'm actually moving to New Orleans in one week and spending some time with the police there, to learn how to be a better cop as that's what the film is about."

And now...Cena's winning the Rumble. Will Triple H ever be able to beat John Cena in a big match?

[TellYourFriends]

I read that same interview, that's why I never even considered it. Haha

[leftstranded]

wow. talk about one of the best kept secrets the wwe has pulled off in a long time. i'm still in shock

[Vincewithouthee]

I am surprised as shit as well. Wish I would've ordered the PPV then. Sounded awesome as hell.

[TellYourFriends]

It was pretty cool seeing it in HD. Had some sound issues at first but overall I was impressed.

[Vincewithouthee]

I would still like to see Cena as a heel but it'll never happen sadly.

[pewpewpewpew]

Cena back already in the spotlight. WWE back in the shithole.

[chokeychicken]

i really enjoyed the ppv. the undercard was a joke, however. i've never, ever, see a match that bad out of jericho. ever. botched spot aside, it was just awful. i'd love to be building towards a huge HHH/Jericho WM match, but instead we get garbage.

hardy and mysterio were exactly what i thought they'd be. whatever.

cena was a great secret, like him or not. and cena orton could be decent. what i'm most exciting about, however, is the huge potential for hbk/taker at wrestlemania. holy shit.

[Kif]

I really like Cena. Like it or not, he carries Raw. The WWE Title hasn't headlined since he left.

Also, in before Cena/Triple H for his title shot at WM.

[theESCO]

With or without Cena, number 30 winning feel cheap.

[Goodbye Forever]

I think the optimal situation would be having Randy drop the title to Trips at No Way Out and have Cena/HHH headline WM. Yeah, it's already been done but it'd be so much better matchwise and moneywise. I'm not a huge Cena fan, but I've started to come around because whether people like it or not the dude delivers in big time matches.

[last light]

Cena/HHH
Michaels/Undertaker
Flair/Kennedy (probably)
Edge/CM Punk (will steal the show)
MITB

I think Cena/Orton could be a decent match, but like you said money-wise it makes no sense. HHH/Cena would be a better match, anyway.

[chokeychicken]

and jericho gets left behind :(

[pewpewpewpew]

Cena is going to hold the title for another fucking 2+ years. It seems like yesterday when he got "hurt."


Who has had the title run since he was hurt.

Orton? The fucking best they could do is Orton? HHH and Jericho, or fucking even bring Taker or Batista over to shake ropes and win the title. Orton is fucking terrible. If they wanted a bad guy to hold it should have been Kennedy Kennedy.

[last light]

and jericho gets left behind :(

I'm sure they'll have Jericho in another match w/ fat JBL.

[chokeychicken]

the rumble also made me realize that they need to fire carlito, snitzky, and khali immediately. they get no heat and are a waste of space

[williek311]

I can't believe this thread has over 2000 posts.

[chokeychicken]

shut up will.

[Vincewithouthee]

Cena/HHH
Michaels/Undertaker
Flair/Kennedy (probably)
Edge/CM Punk (will steal the show)
MITB

I think Cena/Orton could be a decent match, but like you said money-wise it makes no sense. HHH/Cena would be a better match, anyway.

I think they may do a 4-way, or a triple threat, between Cena/HHH/Orton/Hardy (in 4) cause I do not see Hardy in the MITB it wouldn't make sense to me and I don't see what other kind of match he'd be in other than those. I don't see the title going that quick in change from Orton to HHH to Cena either. But who knows.

Taker/HBK will be awesome.
Edge/CM would be as well, hope that happens.
and MITB is always fantastic. Jericho will be in that match I think. He better not get pushed down to midcarder lameness but that's what it looks like now. Figures.

[last light]

I think they may do a 4-way, or a triple threat, between Cena/HHH/Orton/Hardy (in 4) cause I do not see Hardy in the MITB it wouldn't make sense to me and I don't see what other kind of match he'd be in other than those. I don't see the title going that quick in change from Orton to HHH to Cena either. But who knows.

Taker/HBK will be awesome.
Edge/CM would be as well, hope that happens.
and MITB is always fantastic. Jericho will be in that match I think. He better not get pushed down to midcarder lameness but that's what it looks like now. Figures.

I'd really like to see that 4-way match, actually.

[TellYourFriends]

the rumble also made me realize that they need to fire carlito, snitzky, and khali immediately. they get no heat and are a waste of spaceI cracked up when the crowded chanted "You can't wrestle!" when it was Khali, Taker and Michaels.

[pewpewpewpew]

I can hear fucking boos right now during Cena's entrance on Raw.


They are pumping applause. HAHAHAHAHAHHAA

[DaveFeelsRight]

cena is a fucking clown. im glad they're boo'ing his ass

[pewpewpewpew]

I am starting to believe this fucker was never even hurt. lol

[pewpewpewpew]

Jesus christ Cena Sucks? lol.

[nightskies]

bhahaha

[pewpewpewpew]

Hahahahah Mike Ademle's voice on Raw is like the voice of god. I feel like it's the early 90s again and I am watching American Gladiators. He even used the word "Epic."

lol

[pewpewpewpew]

DX Stable is so fucking good.

[TellYourFriends]

Haha...

DX always delivers. I'm glad that they randomly acknowledge it.

I missed what the match they are having at No Way Out is though. What is it?

[pewpewpewpew]

hahhaahha gimmick infringement. So good.

[pewpewpewpew]

hahahahahahhahh dx is so great.

[TellYourFriends]

Yea, that Michael Buffer bit was hilarious.

[Vincewithouthee]

I'd really like to see that 4-way match, actually.

Looks like I may be wrong since it sounds like Cena's gonna take the title at No Way Out. So it may end up being HHH/Cena yet again, hopefully with a different outcome.

[chokeychicken]

jericho's prematch promo was money

[msheeley23]

It really bugs me that it's not Cena v. Orton at 'Mania. They've earned their spots. Just an excuse to put Triple H in the Wrestlemania Main Event yet again.

Prediction: Triple H turns heel at Wrestlemania, injuring WWE Champion John Cena (so he can go film his movie) and wins the WWE Title yet again. So predictable.

[TellYourFriends]

It really bugs me that it's not Cena v. Orton at 'Mania. They've earned their spots. Just an excuse to put Triple H in the Wrestlemania Main Event yet again.

Prediction: Triple H turns heel at Wrestlemania, injuring WWE Champion John Cena (so he can go film his movie) and wins the WWE Title yet again. So predictable.Eh, could HHH really turn heel anymore? I feel like no matter what he does fans will cheer it.

[nfggc10]

Eh, could HHH really turn heel anymore? I feel like no matter what he does fans will cheer it.That's because he's practically the only guy left in the company that knows what he's doing. They're filled with guys who either have solid mic skills but can't wrestle or vice versa along with way too many who can't do either.

[TellYourFriends]

That's because he's practically the only guy left in the company that knows what he's doing. They're filled with guys who either have solid mic skills but can't wrestle or vice versa along with way too many who can't do either.Oh I agree 100%. I wasn't a huge fan of his at first, but he grew on me. You've got to respect what he does.

[Kif]

I'm like the exact opposite. When I first started watching in 1999, I was a huge Triple H fan. Now he just bores me.

[nfggc10]

Oh I agree 100%. I wasn't a huge fan of his at first, but he grew on me. You've got to respect what he does.Yeah when he first came over from WCW his mic skills weren't very good but he got better extremely fast and once he added some muscle he was bound to be a star. The problem is that they failed to develop the few stars they found because they were impatient and have put too much stock in steroid freaks like Batista who have no wrestling ability and zero mic skills. And then once they realized these guys weren't drawing well they started reaching for guys who were stars in the 90s who who could do both like HBK. Now they're stuck with stars that are too old and younger guys who can't draw or don't have talent.

Also, they need to go back to their late 90s style where they actually developed story lines, as well as characters, and let them play out over a long period of time. They've got so many ppv's now that they end up condensing what could be great 5-6 month stories into 3 weeks so they'll have a spot to fill on a garbage non-elite ppv that no one will order. This is why Wrestlemania isn't really that big of a deal anymore because when they were good story lines for the championship match, as well as most of the under card, would start the previous fall and then escalate at the Royal Rumble leading to huge anticipation for WM. Now every match, including championship matches, are thrown together the month or two before and generate less interest.

[EvilButters]

It really bugs me that it's not Cena v. Orton at 'Mania. They've earned their spots. Just an excuse to put Triple H in the Wrestlemania Main Event yet again.

Prediction: Triple H turns heel at Wrestlemania, injuring WWE Champion John Cena (so he can go film his movie) and wins the WWE Title yet again. So predictable.

I'm actually about ready for another lengthy Triple H title run. I'm sick of Orton being the champ. He's boring on the mic and in the ring. Cena was already champ for what seemed like three years straight. I've actually been enjoying WWE a lot more since he's been gone. I don't know if the writing has been better or what, but it was just nice not seeing him in the spotlight for once. So, right now, I'm thinking Triple H is the best option.

Since the Money In the Bank ladder match will be back this year, I hope somebody new wins it. I like seeing new people in the main event, especially if they wind up being better than expected. I was hoping for something like that with the Royal Rumble this year, but...yeah. You know how that turned out.

[Kif]

I don't think Cena will be the champ for a while. People will pay to see him chase the title, so I hope they hold off (Not because I hate Cena since I don't, I want to see him chase the title as much as the casual WWE fan). As for Orton, I dig him. He and Jeff have had a great chemistry in the ring.

Actually I'm pretty happy with WWE at the moment. I really hope this year CM Punk gets bumped up to SD! He and Edge could have an epic feud.

[EvilButters]

Actually I'm pretty happy with WWE at the moment. I really hope this year CM Punk gets bumped up to SD! He and Edge could have an epic feud.

Oh man, I've been thinking that for awhile. Gregory Helms and CM Punk could probably have a hell of a feud, too. After he comes back from his injury anyway.

[Goodbye Forever]

Also, they need to go back to their late 90s style where they actually developed story lines, as well as characters, and let them play out over a long period of time. They've got so many ppv's now that they end up condensing what could be great 5-6 month stories into 3 weeks so they'll have a spot to fill on a garbage non-elite ppv that no one will order. This is why Wrestlemania isn't really that big of a deal anymore because when they were good story lines for the championship match, as well as most of the under card, would start the previous fall and then escalate at the Royal Rumble leading to huge anticipation for WM. Now every match, including championship matches, are thrown together the month or two before and generate less interest.

It's unfortunate that Smackdown got moved to Friday nights because the booking on the show is tremendous and not enough people get to see what talented bookers/writers can do with the talent in the company. MVP/Hardy was the best feud of 2007 for my money (and hopefully will continue in 2008), the Edge/Taker/Batista stuff has been great, Chavo/Rey has been spectacular, and even some of the smaller feuds (Noble/Palumbo, Yang-Moore/Miz-Morrison) have been built fantastically.

[pewpewpewpew]

It really bugs me that it's not Cena v. Orton at 'Mania. They've earned their spots. Just an excuse to put Triple H in the Wrestlemania Main Event yet again.

Prediction: Triple H turns heel at Wrestlemania, injuring WWE Champion John Cena (so he can go film his movie) and wins the WWE Title yet again. So predictable.

Eh, could HHH really turn heel anymore? I feel like no matter what he does fans will cheer it.

I don't think Batista can turn heel either.


Remember this:

I_mB9f_4iNs


Last I remember back when Evolution was a stable, before these dudes became the huge fan favorites they are today, they were a huge heel. the cheers for Evolution during the 15th Anniversary proved to me those guys would have a hard time convincing fans to turn over and boo them.


As Monday showed though, Cena would make a GREAT heel. Crowd fucking hates him. He kind of had to improv when they started booing saying he sucks. Which I thought he did decently and I think he would make a much better heel since people fucking hate him and he can do a good job with pissing fans off by just coming out to the ring.

[Kif]

To be fair in the same night Trips had 3 segments with the McMahons, DX and Evolution. It was hardly an episode people watched for story, they just watched for their appreciation of how long Raw has been on.

If Cena wins the title and turns heel though, I would be really happy about that.

[chokeychicken]

i dont think wwe has any plans to make cena a heel but after mondays reaction, they should seriously consider it. it would be the weirdest reason to turn a guy heel - because the fans are simply tired of him. which just shows you how smart modern fans are compared to the past.

i would love to see them do a great cena heel turn, because he could really generate some heat. and the only person doing that on the raw roster right now is orton.

[pewpewpewpew]

The boos are getting bad for Cena that they can't even pump applause into the crowd for the people watching at home to think he's over. "Cena Sucks!" chants? Count me in for those. Probably one of the smartest crowds, especially the day after the Rumble. I bet WWE was really surprised to have him come out expecting a huge pop. People may have been surprised he was #30, but that probably gave them more reasons to boo him now. lol.

[Kif]

Ironically this week's Raw was the highest rated since April last year.

[Goodbye Forever]

Chris Harris has officially signed with the WWE. It'll be interesting to see what they do with him and Killings.

[Kif]

Mid-card ECW? Like Vince has ever cared about any talent that made a name for themselves outside WWE.

[chokeychicken]

i mean, things have been decent lately. i'm glad they're getting some ratings . this is the first time i've been consistently watching RAW since 2002.

[pewpewpewpew]

Brock Lesner and the UFC = lolol.

[nightskies]

motor city machine guns coming back to roh for a few shows. should be cool to see them wrestle in a legit match again.

[chokeychicken]

fuck cena being in the WM main event and fuck them overlooking the chance for a huge Taker/HBK match at WM after their rumble exits.

and fuck the fact that jericho is not being used at all rigiht now

[EvilButters]

motor city machine guns coming back to roh for a few shows. should be cool to see them wrestle in a legit match again.

Really? I didn't think TNA talent could be used in ROH anymore. Either way, that's incredibly awesome. I love the match they had with the Briscoes.

[nightskies]

ya that's what i thought too but roh made it official
they challenged the briscoes to a rematch
i want to see them fight aotf or steen/generico too

[EvilButters]

Yeah, I just saw their bulletin on Myspace about it. That's incredibly awesome. If those matches are anywhere near as good as that match from last year, then I'll want to see them for sure.

[deathcab06]

i heard about the hogan challenge and that people on here dont care for him. i will agree that he starts all of his matches wil a head lock then body checks them then poses. im a huge hogan fan. he still does do the same stuff from the 80s but he can still fill an arena. john cena wont be able to do that in 20 years. idk what the prob would be with the hulkster at mania. they really dont have any good matches set. put him in there. that would put wm on the tvs of folks at home. i know i would buy it.

[gilatron5000]

Rob Van Dam was at WonderCon, charging $25 to take a polaroid with him, or $20 if you had your own camera.

I passed.

[EvilButters]

i heard about the hogan challenge and that people on here dont care for him. i will agree that he starts all of his matches wil a head lock then body checks them then poses. im a huge hogan fan. he still does do the same stuff from the 80s but he can still fill an arena. john cena wont be able to do that in 20 years. idk what the prob would be with the hulkster at mania. they really dont have any good matches set. put him in there. that would put wm on the tvs of folks at home. i know i would buy it.

Because Hogan won't put Flair over at all in his last match. At least if Flair has his last match against HBK, like I've been hearing, then at least he can have a solid match. If I have the choice between Hogan or HBK, I'm going to pick HBK.

[chokeychicken]

i'd rather seen HBK/Jericho than HBK/Flair

[gilatron5000]

Am I the only one, hoping against hope, that Flair's final match could somehow be against Sting?

[EvilButters]

i'd rather seen HBK/Jericho than HBK/Flair

I would have rather seen Undertaker/HBK than HBK/Flair, but to each his own.

[chokeychicken]

I would have rather seen Undertaker/HBK than HBK/Flair, but to each his own.

oh i agree 100%. i think after they eliminated each other in the rumble, it was the perfect setup for an epic match. but of course, nobody capitalizes.

[EvilButters]

I didn't see this year's Rumble at all, but from what I heard it sounded pretty good up until Cena came out as number thirty. I was really impressed with last year's rumble, when it was down to Taker and HBK. They put on a hell of a show. I just think they need to feud one more time before they both retire.

[chokeychicken]

i agree. basically they both eliminated each other towards the end and the first thing i thought was that they were going to fued leading up to the rumble. i was thinking taker should have lost at no way out and gotten so pissed he showed up during the RAW chamber and cost HBK the match, assuming it was down to him and HHH or something. that would have been fucking phenomenal. its unfortunate i'm not booking the WWE.

[EvilButters]

That would have been pretty awesome. I have to admit though a part of me does want to see Edge/Taker at Wrestlemania. If done right, that could be quite good. I have a feeling WWE is just going to half ass it though and I'll probably be disappointed with it. I'm also kind of hoping Kane will get a decent title run before he retires. I think he deserves it. I think he only held the title for a day when he did actually have it...

[chokeychicken]

he did. and then austin came out and beat him the next night on RAW.

[DaveFeelsRight]

lol @ this floyd mayweather shit

[TellYourFriends]

The Hornswaggle son story line just needs to to die....

It would have been 1000x better if Kennedy hadn't of gotten suspended.

[Kif]

Horns is one of the best things about Raw.

[mht]

Jericho better fucking get that fucking belt soon or I am done watching Raw.


him and Kennedy were the only two bright spots last night with any sort of skills to cut a decent promo. I'm glad Orton is so fucking bad at talking and able to hold the belt. What idiots.


I also think its fucking stupid how they had matches with Jericho and Hardy last night, two guys that are both so over, the crowd didn't know who to cheer for, little boys and teen girls wanted Hardy and all the old heads wanted Jericho.


Then they set up a match with Umaga and DH Smith? Yeah wonderful. No one gives a shit about that fat fuck.

[nfggc10]

lol @ this floyd mayweather shitHaving pro athletes wrestle has never worked in these things and I'm not sure why they keep doing it. They should've learned from the first time when they had Lawrence Taylor face King Kong Bundy at WM 11. Coincidentally that has been unanimously voted as the worst WM ever by everyone who has seen it.

[last light]

Having pro athletes wrestle has never worked in these things and I'm not sure why they keep doing it. They should've learned from the first time when they had Lawrence Taylor face King Kong Bundy at WM 11. Coincidentally that has been unanimously voted as the worst WM ever by everyone who has seen it.

The buyrates involving celebs or pro-athletes are massive, that's why.

[nfggc10]

The buyrates involving celebs or pro-athletes are massive, that's why.Having them wrestle always turns out to be a disaster. The more they continue to do it the less people will care. And everyone knows Big Show is going to put him over and the quality of the match will be horrendous. Then again, the card they've put together sucks so I guess they need this match to gain some interest.

[last light]

I agree it's horrible, but the Donald Trump involvement last year drew big money for them. It's a shame but I imagine we'll get at least 1 celeb angle a year.

[nfggc10]

I agree it's horrible, but the Donald Trump involvement last year drew big money for them. It's a shame but I imagine we'll get at least 1 celeb angle a year.I just find it weird that there's people out there who will buy it now because of that. It just goes to show how far the product itself has fallen that they need celebrities to be heavily involved in matches to generate interest. And last year there wasn't one person who thought Donald Trump was gonna have his head shaved. When something gets that predictable is it really worth watching? Then again, I haven't bothered to buy a WM in a few years because they started to suck so bad it wasn't worth it. I still say the last good one was 17 even though I suffered through the next three after that.

Edit: The only interest I have in this year's is the stage design since it's outdoors again. When they had WM 9 at Caesar's in Vegas, even though the matches weren't great, it was still awesome to see that setup and actually saved it from being a bad event for me.

[TellYourFriends]

It's getting them a ton of coverage on ESPN...

[Kif]

The Mayweather bit was one of the best things about No Way Out.

[mht]

lol I consider a huge difference between a guy like Donald Trump and some little cocky thug that talks like a 5 year old girl named Floyd Mayweather, crowd doesn't even fucking like him he's too cocky.

[chokeychicken]

finally got around to watching raw. man, that jericho/hardy match was one of the sloppiest things i've ever seen. also, i really want to see an outstanding flair promo one more time before he goes. you know, the ones where he takes off his clothes and runs around screaming and his face is boiling. i was hoping when michaels refused the match at WM originally, flair would flip and say "TO BE THE MAN YOU GOTTA BE THE MAN, WOO!"

didn't happen.

and of course they're not going to elevate a young star by having him beat flair. they'll let michaels do it.

[aloneatlastnj]

so, i've never been in this thread and i haven't watched 'professional' wrestling in probably 6 years. i was going through some old VHS tapes converting them to DVD and i found all my old raw, smackdown and ppv tapes. what the hell happened to the WWE?! the angles with the ministry and austin - i think, being put on the undertaker's cross above the jumbotron to finish a monday night raw. that stuff was gold. maybe it was because i was a teen but i was hooked. once the brands "expanded" i lost interest. then one random night i turn on raw or something and see vince mcmahon blown up in a limo. the next week benoit kills his family and himself.

jesus christ. i miss the old days. rock and sock connection ftw!

[DaRkHoRsE19]

Having pro athletes wrestle has never worked in these things and I'm not sure why they keep doing it. They should've learned from the first time when they had Lawrence Taylor face King Kong Bundy at WM 11. Coincidentally that has been unanimously voted as the worst WM ever by everyone who has seen it.
It wasnt King Kong Bundy, it was Bam Bam Bigelow. But I totally agree with you.

It doesnt make sense although this between Mayweather and Show will be a new generation's version of LT vs Bam Bam

[DaRkHoRsE19]

On the other hand, I could watch that round of punches from No Way Out over and over and not get sick of it...

[nfggc10]

so, i've never been in this thread and i haven't watched 'professional' wrestling in probably 6 years. i was going through some old VHS tapes converting them to DVD and i found all my old raw, smackdown and ppv tapes. what the hell happened to the WWE?! the angles with the ministry and austin - i think, being put on the undertaker's cross above the jumbotron to finish a monday night raw. that stuff was gold. maybe it was because i was a teen but i was hooked. once the brands "expanded" i lost interest. then one random night i turn on raw or something and see vince mcmahon blown up in a limo. the next week benoit kills his family and himself.

jesus christ. i miss the old days. rock and sock connection ftw!Completely agree.

It wasnt King Kong Bundy, it was Bam Bam Bigelow. But I totally agree with you.

It doesnt make sense although this between Mayweather and Show will be a new generation's version of LT vs Bam BamYeah Bam Bam. Not sure why I said Bundy but looking back they were pretty much the same character. I'm pretty sure there were some strange backstage crap that went into that match even happening.

[chokeychicken]

AuVEu_IXnSA&NR=1

[williek311]

So I saw on Rome is Burning last night that Floyd Mayweather is going to fight The Big Show. I actually wouldn't mind seeing that. And he is getting paid $20mil to do it.

[chokeychicken]

So I saw on Rome is Burning last night that Floyd Mayweather is going to fight The Big Show. I actually wouldn't mind seeing that. And he is getting paid $20mil to do it.

im watching Wrestlemania with a bunch of guys if you want to join

[TellYourFriends]

AuVEu_IXnSA&NR=1"You know your rolls."

Haha. That was funny.

[aloneatlastnj]

i miss the rock. i wish he would've stuck to wrestling instead of acting. dude has more charisma than i will ever have in my lifetime. i thought it was the coolest thing when he disappeared for a while, came back with his bicep tattoo, and started doing that agile-flipping-yourself-up-while-you're-on-the-ground thing. anybody know what i'm talking about?

[nfggc10]

i miss the rock. i wish he would've stuck to wrestling instead of acting. dude has more charisma than i will ever have in my lifetime. i thought it was the coolest thing when he disappeared for a while, came back with his bicep tattoo, and started doing that agile-flipping-yourself-up-while-you're-on-the-ground thing. anybody know what i'm talking about?Yeah but his legacy will be/is looked at much better this way. By getting out while he was still relevant and close enough to his peak he didn't leave room for people to look at him as a guy like HBK or Flair who just hung on way too long.

[Lost Glories]

Yeah but his legacy will be/is looked at much better this way. By getting out while he was still relevant and close enough to his peak he didn't leave room for people to look at him as a guy like HBK or Flair who just hung on way too long.

HBK is holding on too long?

i agree with flair, but its flair and the greatest of all time can do what he wants.

i've never heard anyone say that HBK was holding on too long.

but HBK still has not one bad match in recent memory and is one of the best workers in the business today.

[chokeychicken]

i agree. I can't remember the last time I did not enjoy a HBK match

[chokeychicken]

holy shit. just found this shoot interview from the rock:

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