WWE, TNA, ROH (Official Thread)

[Lost Glories]

Go!

[Signals Corrupted]

I think Morishima will hold the title into the summer, and then McGuiness will dethrone him. A month or two ago, I might have said Davey Richards, but it seems that people are starting to catch on to his being overrated.

[Lost Glories]

i dont see davey as overrated at all.
did you see that someone wanted an apology from richards for a "racist" comment said to the fans about Doi and Shingo?

[Signals Corrupted]

Hahaha "no Jap is gonna beat me!" or something? No, was this on the ROH boards? Only wrestling site I visit is PWTorch.

[Lost Glories]

ahha yeah it was like this big letter. posted on the boards. it was pretty ridiculous.
gerweck.net is pretty good too.
did you see that *** chris kanyon retired?

[Signals Corrupted]

Whatever. He needed to get the cheap heat. If he was wrestling some hispanic dude and he was like "No Mexican is gonna beat me!" I wouldn't be offended, myself.


Yeah Chris Kanyon is going to retire for about.. 4 months before announcing his big gay return to wrestling.

What time are you getting to PWG tomorrow?

[Lost Glories]

since there letting us in at 715 ill be there around 615. maybe 630.

you got Colt's streamers yet? grab me some and ill give you some money?

[Signals Corrupted]

Figured there was enough people interested to have a thread.

-Who do you think will dethrone Morishima? Will McGuiness? A Returning Danielson?

-Undertaker World Champ (Final Run?) Thoughts?

-John Cena's 3rd Consecutive Wrestlemania Win. (Two Main Events) Thoughts?

-Backlund v. Starr? WTF? Thoughts?

As for Undertaker's final run, I wouldn't mind seeing him defend it successfully all the way through until next year's Wrestlemania, and then lose it to the Royal Rumble winner (ideally, Cena).

[Signals Corrupted]

since there letting us in at 715 ill be there around 615. maybe 630.

you got Colt's streamers yet? grab me some and ill give you some money?

7:15? that pretty early. Wasn't aware of that. I'll probably be there by 6 30 myself - Once you get there, you can cut in line with my friend Jeff and I (I'll be cutting with Kevin Steen Jr... he arrives at like 2:30 hahaha)

[Lost Glories]

who can take out cena?

[Lost Glories]

7:15? that pretty early. Wasn't aware of that. I'll probably be there by 6 30 myself - Once you get there, you can cut in line with my friend Jeff and I (I'll be cutting with Kevin Steen Jr... he arrives at like 2:30 hahaha)

sounds excellent.

what match you looking foward too?

[Signals Corrupted]

who can take out cena?

Between now and the Rumble? Michaels, I hope. I'd love to see Kennedy cash in against Michaels.

[Lost Glories]

Between now and the Rumble? Michaels, I hope. I'd love to see Kennedy cash in against Michaels.

kennedy seriously needs to jump to raw.

[DaveFeelsRight]

fuck that, both brands need to become one again

[Signals Corrupted]

sounds excellent.

what match you looking foward too?

Dude, honestly. I'm kind-of looking past ASW right now. That Tag Team Tourney sounds incredible. CIMA/Dragon, CIMA/Generico, Pac/Dragon? Blood Generation in the tag team tourney? Fuuuck.


But I'm most looking forward to Shelley/Hayashi, and Strong/Romero.

[Lost Glories]

Dude, honestly. I'm kind-of looking past ASW right now. That Tag Team Tourney sounds incredible. CIMA/Dragon, CIMA/Generico, Pac/Dragon? Blood Generation in the tag team tourney? Fuuuck.


But I'm most looking forward to Shelley/Hayashi, and Strong/Romero.

PAC VS DRAGON? HOLY SHIT!

thats amazing.

[Signals Corrupted]

kennedy seriously needs to jump to raw.

fuck that, both brands need to become one again


There is no need for this, because they really don't keep the brands separate anymore, anyway.

[Lost Glories]

thank god for another pre sale tomorrow night.

[Signals Corrupted]

Oh, and yeah, I'm picking up streamers in the morning - What colours should I get though, and for whom?

Pac = Red & White for the English flag

Cabana = Black Silver and Red?

[DaveFeelsRight]

There is no need for this, because they really don't keep people separate anymore, anyway.not really. i mean, only the people with title's get to move around shows.

[Lost Glories]

Pac = Red & White for the English flag

Cabana = Black Silver and Red?

maybe yellow red and black for cabana

[Lost Glories]

not really. i mean, only the people with title's get to move around shows.

not really since the had that tag team battle royal on monday with every team from smackdown. including kendrick and london which made no sense.

[Signals Corrupted]

maybe yellow red and black for cabana

Oops, yeah I meant to say Gold not Silver haha. Anyone else worthy of streamers? Maybe some fucking toilet paper for Top Gun.

[Lost Glories]

hahahahah you hate that guy. joel does too. not really. low ki?

[Signals Corrupted]

Shit that's a good point. Definitely Low-Ki.

So I've got Gold, Red, Black, White streamers to get, total.

[Lost Glories]

yes.

[Signals Corrupted]

Who do you think will dethrone Morishima?

[Kif]

Danielson is pretty much set to become new NWA champ when TNA lose the rights to the belt, so he won't be coming back to ROH anytime soon. My guess would be Mcguiness too. I can't think of any other realistic contenders now.

As for WWE. Taker being champ is one of the best things they have done lately, although I still enjoy watching Raw. Cena retaining is kinda weird. Hopefully he will keep it until Triple H comes back and loses it to him.

[EnderDove]

There should be a WWE thread and then a TNA/ROH thread, come on now.

Lets separate the marks from the smarks. :-)

[Lost Glories]

Vince is going to kill you with that smark comment. Ahah

Nah no separation necessary even though its wrestling and sports entertainment. But tna is just as much SE now as wwe.

[turncoat93]

i think this is undertakers last real run as champ
i hope it goes for a while
hes in good fucking shape
even though cenas hated now

[mht]

who can take out cena?



Triple H of course.

[mht]

Vince is going to kill you with that smark comment. Ahah

Nah no separation necessary even though its wrestling and sports entertainment. But tna is just as much SE now as wwe.


with people like big poppa pump on their roster TNA is way more shitty entertainment than WWE...

[Lost Glories]

with people like big poppa pump on their roster TNA is way more shitty entertainment than WWE...

you speak the truth.

[Sleepaway]

Unfortunately, I have no way of watching TNA and RoH other than buying DVD's. And I just don't have the money for that.

Actually, can anyone tell me what time and what network Impact airs on?

As for WWE - Cena needs to lose that title. I'm glad Taker won his title, and while I would like to see Kennedy challenge him for it, I think he needs be on raw.

[gilatron5000]

Unfortunately, I have no way of watching TNA and RoH other than buying DVD's. And I just don't have the money for that.

Actually, can anyone tell me what time and what network Impact airs on?

As for WWE - Cena needs to lose that title. I'm glad Taker won his title, and while I would like to see Kennedy challenge him for it, I think he needs be on raw.Impact is on Spike TV. Thursdays at 9 EAstern. I think. I rarely watch it though.

As for Cena having the title. I'm all for him holding onto it as long as possible. When the title is passed around like crazy(upwards of 4, 5, or even 6 title changes in a year, all different title holders), it loses its luster. But thats only my opinion.

I am STOKED that Taker is the champion. It could very well be his final run, but I think he has 5 more years left in him, at least.

I hate Batista.

I've never seen ROH. Anyone know where I can check it out?

[Kif]

This is the only match I've bothered uploading from ROH at the moment. I gotta sort out my Youtube for uploading wrestling shit since I've had a few taken down.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=EA65132705F200B9

Homicide/Danielson at Final Battle 06.

[EvilButters]

This is the only match I've bothered uploading from ROH at the moment. I gotta sort out my Youtube for uploading wrestling shit since I've had a few taken down.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=EA65132705F200B9

Homicide/Danielson at Final Battle 06.

Thank you for that link. I've been wanting to see that match. I watch WWE more than anything else. I mainly stick to Raw and ECW. I'm also sick of Cena being WWE champion, but it'll only mean that much more when someone finally beats him. The real thing will be to keep the title after Cena gets that rematch. Isn't that how Edge ended up dropping the title back to him both times?

I'm a big CM Punk fan, so I try to watch whenever I think or hear about him being on any WWE program. I like ROH and just about any other indy promotion, but don't see a whole lot. I have a few links to message boards that have people uploading matches from all wrestling promotions from the past and present. I could post it here if anyone is interested.

I liked Batista up until his jump to SmackDown!. Ever since then...it's been downhill. He's sloppy and you can tell he doesn't really care about wrestling. I'm just glad Undertaker didn't fuck up his Wrestlemania streak for that douchebag. It'll also be interesting to see who takes the title off of Taker. Kennedy maybe? Another Kennedy/Taker feud wouldn't be horrible as their match at Armageddon last year was pretty decent. What do you guys think of Bobby Lashley? He's pretty much just another Batista in my eyes.

[turncoat93]

Unfortunately, I have no way of watching TNA and RoH other than buying DVD's. And I just don't have the money for that.

Actually, can anyone tell me what time and what network Impact airs on?

As for WWE - Cena needs to lose that title. I'm glad Taker won his title, and while I would like to see Kennedy challenge him for it, I think he needs be on raw.


kennedy definitley should NOT challenge the undertaker
there feud went on way to long and needed to be squashed
but seeing cena lose the title would be interesiting
have him lose it to lashley and make lashely the ecw and wwe champion
thatd be sweet

[turncoat93]

Thank you for that link. I've been wanting to see that match. I watch WWE more than anything else. I mainly stick to Raw and ECW. I'm also sick of Cena being WWE champion, but it'll only mean that much more when someone finally beats him. The real thing will be to keep the title after Cena gets that rematch. Isn't that how Edge ended up dropping the title back to him both times?

I'm a big CM Punk fan, so I try to watch whenever I think or hear about him being on any WWE program. I like ROH and just about any other indy promotion, but don't see a whole lot. I have a few links to message boards that have people uploading matches from all wrestling promotions from the past and present. I could post it here if anyone is interested.

I liked Batista up until his jump to SmackDown!. Ever since then...it's been downhill. He's sloppy and you can tell he doesn't really care about wrestling. I'm just glad Undertaker didn't fuck up his Wrestlemania streak for that douchebag. It'll also be interesting to see who takes the title off of Taker. Kennedy maybe? Another Kennedy/Taker feud wouldn't be horrible as their match at Armageddon last year was pretty decent. What do you guys think of Bobby Lashley? He's pretty much just another Batista in my eyes.



i defintley get what you mean by that it will make it even better when cena is defeated. but cena can be entertaining so i dont mind him being the champion that much
i love cm punk, hes one of the best on the roster right now, and batista was better before his injury, good opinions minus the one about bobby lashley, i really think hes gonna be something not just a washed up batista, he does a great job in the ring

[Signals Corrupted]

This is one of the best-matches you'll ever see, in it's entirety: Dragon Gate vs. Do Fixer
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1282438626249664605

This is a vid of one of my favourites in PWG, El Generico (he's a white guy from Canada that pretends to be a luchador from Tijuana)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGIz9zSEKKc

This is a vid of Pac, one of the craziest guys in Indy Wrestling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwstzMp80pw

This is Jack Evans - craziest guy in Indy Wrestling
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-767542907927653434&q=jack+evans+tribute

[last light]

This is one of the best-matches you'll ever see, in it's entirety: Dragon Gate vs. Do Fixer
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1282438626249664605

This is a vid of one of my favourites in PWG, El Generico (he's a white guy from Canada that pretends to be a luchador from Tijuana)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGIz9zSEKKc

This is a vid of Pac, one of the craziest guys in Indy Wrestling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwstzMp80pw

This is Jack Evans - craziest guy in Indy Wrestling
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-767542907927653434&q=jack+evans+tribute

i need to start going to these shows. post about them in this thread so i feel cool and in the know! haha.

[Kif]

This is Jack Evans - craziest guy in Indy Wrestling
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-767542907927653434&q=jack+evans+tribute
And you knoooooowwww this!

It's good to see Jack back in ROH.

[mht]

The only reason from what I can tell Cena still has the title is because their marketing[WWE] with stores like HOT TOPIC, has a shitload of shirts of him with the blet and slogans like "The Champ is Here." if he were to lose that title, noone would fucking buy any of his garbage shirts. So sadly, due to marketing of Cena shirts and them selling well, WWE feels there are still plenty of Cena fans out there and are still fine with him being the champ.

[chokeychicken]

i just finished watching that homocide-daniels match. it was my first taste of ROH and i loved it. i would like to see more and if anybody has any, please share it.

what amazed me most about this match was the crowd. it was only 1400, but they were louder and more into it than just about any WWE crowd i've ever seen, even though the WWE crowds are 10 or 11x times larger. they were into every second of the match, especially the finishers and the submissions - they chanted, they marked out, they cheered. and when homocide won, they flipped out like no crowd i've ever seen before. it was awesome.

some of the moves were a little sloppy, the production/camera work is obviously low budget, and i was not impressed with the build up to the finish of the match. daniels kicks out of homocides devestating finisher, but a huge clotheslines puts him out after 40 minutes? give me a break.

great technical wrestling, though. loved it.

[Kif]

Indy crowds are awesome for the most part. I have Austin Aries/CM Punk for the title, and there's a good 5-10 minutes of Aries with Punk in a side headlock while he's trying to get out of it. A few people in the crowd starting chanting "Boring! Boring!", and then everyone else immediately shouted "Shut the fuck up! Shut the fuck up!"

I upload a few more matches tonight and post them up here. Not sure exactly what I have actually.

[Lost Glories]

This is one of the best-matches you'll ever see, in it's entirety: Dragon Gate vs. Do Fixer
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1282438626249664605


i just finished watching that homocide-daniels match. it was my first taste of ROH and i loved it. i would like to see more and if anybody has any, please share it.
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watch the match vince just linked above. the japanese perfected fast paced wrestling. never a dull moment in this match. and if you ever get some money order either joe vs. kobashi for that ***** star match. then the first supercard of honor. and if your a cm punk fan death before dishonor 3 has the greatest (IMO) heel turn that has ever happened in recent years.

did you call him homocide on purpose? and its danielson.

[Lost Glories]

some of the moves were a little sloppy, the production/camera work is obviously low budget, and i was not impressed with the build up to the finish of the match. daniels kicks out of homocides devestating finisher, but a huge clotheslines puts him out after 40 minutes? give me a break.

great technical wrestling, though. loved it.

i forgot if bower is commentating.

LARIOT DANGEROUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Kif]

watch the match vince just linked above. the japanese perfected fast paced wrestling. never a dull moment in this match. and if you ever get some money order either joe vs. kobashi for that ***** star match. then the first supercard of honor. and if your a cm punk fan death before dishonor 3 has the greatest (IMO) heel turn that has ever happened in recent years.

did you call him homocide on purpose? and its danielson.
I've got the Joe/Kobashi match somewhere. Truely a 5 star match.

The Joe/Punk series are a good watch too if you are into long matches.

[chokeychicken]

the dragon gate vs. do fixer match was fantastic. lots of great moves there that i hadn't seen previously. loved the great double and tripled teaming moves, too. very exciting.

[chokeychicken]

watch the match vince just linked above. the japanese perfected fast paced wrestling. never a dull moment in this match. and if you ever get some money order either joe vs. kobashi for that ***** star match. then the first supercard of honor. and if your a cm punk fan death before dishonor 3 has the greatest (IMO) heel turn that has ever happened in recent years.

did you call him homocide on purpose? and its danielson.

and no, i'm just terrible at spelling.

[Kif]

I'm sure it's not the first time someone made that spelling error heh.

[EvilButters]

i defintley get what you mean by that it will make it even better when cena is defeated. but cena can be entertaining so i dont mind him being the champion that much

Well it'll be a nice change, don't get me wrong, but it'll be that much more significant when someone does finally beat Cena and is able to have a decent reign with it. And storyline-wise, it'll be the same when someone is able to beat Umaga for the intercontinental title. The guy has only been beaten by Cena and Lashley(as far as I can recall). It'll probably be as significant as when Lashley broke the Masterlock. I hate Umaga since he's basically just WWE's watered down version of Samoa Joe, but whoever beats him ends up getting a huge push and I'm all for that.

good opinions minus the one about bobby lashley, i really think hes gonna be something not just a washed up batista, he does a great job in the ring

Lashley isn't horrible in the ring, but I'm not a big fan of powerhouse wrestlers. He's also pretty awful on the mic. To each his own though.

The only reason from what I can tell Cena still has the title is because their marketing[WWE] with stores like HOT TOPIC, has a shitload of shirts of him with the blet and slogans like "The Champ is Here." if he were to lose that title, noone would fucking buy any of his garbage shirts. So sadly, due to marketing of Cena shirts and them selling well, WWE feels there are still plenty of Cena fans out there and are still fine with him being the champ.

I think that's partly the reason. Cena is big with the little kids and the women who are actually in the audience. The kids look up to him and the women think he's hot. He sells a lot of merchandise. If he turned heel or lost the title, it may fuck things up...or at least that's how WWE creative looks at it. As of right now, it looks like if he dropped the title it'd be to either HBK, Orton, or Edge...or possible Triple H when he returns. Maybe they're holding off to build someone else up new to take the title from Cena. It could be Kennedy, it could be Lashley, hell...it could be CM Punk. Who knows? WWE programming is also more interesting when the face is chasing the heel for the title and not the other way around.

[EnderDove]

Well it'll be a nice change, don't get me wrong, but it'll be that much more significant when someone does finally beat Cena and is able to have a decent reign with it. And storyline-wise, it'll be the same when someone is able to beat Umaga for the intercontinental title. The guy has only been beaten by Cena and Lashley(as far as I can recall). It'll probably be as significant as when Lashley broke the Masterlock. I hate Umaga since he's basically just WWE's watered down version of Samoa Joe, but whoever beats him ends up getting a huge push and I'm all for that.



Lashley isn't horrible in the ring, but I'm not a big fan of powerhouse wrestlers. He's also pretty awful on the mic. To each his own though.



I think that's partly the reason. Cena is big with the little kids and the women who are actually in the audience. The kids look up to him and the women think he's hot. He sells a lot of merchandise. If he turned heel or lost the title, it may fuck things up...or at least that's how WWE creative looks at it. As of right now, it looks like if he dropped the title it'd be to either HBK, Orton, or Edge...or possible Triple H when he returns. Maybe they're holding off to build someone else up new to take the title from Cena. It could be Kennedy, it could be Lashley, hell...it could be CM Punk. Who knows? WWE programming is also more interesting when the face is chasing the heel for the title and not the other way around.

As for Cena, to this point he still is not a favorite in the male, 18-34 demographic which is the core of WWE viewers. He still gets several boo's and for the most part still isn't over with that crowd. Sadly he continue's to carry the strap even without that huge support that WWE would usually want.

[EnderDove]

Any of you guys play the Total Extreme Wrestling series by Adam Ryland? Or maybe ever played EWR?

[mht]

I think that's partly the reason. Cena is big with the little kids and the women who are actually in the audience. The kids look up to him and the women think he's hot. He sells a lot of merchandise. If he turned heel or lost the title, it may fuck things up...or at least that's how WWE creative looks at it. As of right now, it looks like if he dropped the title it'd be to either HBK, Orton, or Edge...or possible Triple H when he returns. Maybe they're holding off to build someone else up new to take the title from Cena. It could be Kennedy, it could be Lashley, hell...it could be CM Punk. Who knows? WWE programming is also more interesting when the face is chasing the heel for the title and not the other way around.


wasn't Cena a heel or hated when he first came to the WWE? and then he turned and people loved him once became champ?

[EnderDove]

wasn't Cena a heel or hated when he first came to the WWE? and then he turned and people loved him once became champ?

He was a heel as The Prototype in OVW, however his first apperance on WWE tv was on SmackDown! when he came out and accepted an open challenge made by Kurt Angle, due to the whole Vince talking about "Ruthless Agression" thing. It was actually a good match and Cena held his own on the mat with Angle. It's sad that now he simply doesn't use the technical abilities that he really does have.

[EnderDove]

i just finished watching that homocide-daniels match. it was my first taste of ROH and i loved it. i would like to see more and if anybody has any, please share it.

what amazed me most about this match was the crowd. it was only 1400, but they were louder and more into it than just about any WWE crowd i've ever seen, even though the WWE crowds are 10 or 11x times larger. they were into every second of the match, especially the finishers and the submissions - they chanted, they marked out, they cheered. and when homocide won, they flipped out like no crowd i've ever seen before. it was awesome.

some of the moves were a little sloppy, the production/camera work is obviously low budget, and i was not impressed with the build up to the finish of the match. daniels kicks out of homocides devestating finisher, but a huge clotheslines puts him out after 40 minutes? give me a break.

Also, I totally marked out when Danielson hit the roaring elbow, haha.

great technical wrestling, though. loved it.

Reguarding kicking out of the finisher and then being put out by a clothesline, this is most likely due to you only viewing WWE in which finishers have become the official end to a match and really just over hyped. Not long ago when the name was still WWF, finisher's were not always used to end the match. One of my favorite matches of all time, Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart at Wrestlemania X was won with a vicotry roll, yet it was just as dramatic as any finisher.

I would rather see someone take a finisher, kick out and then not have enough to kick out of a smaller, yet still well landed move. WWE have conditioned people to pop for the finisher and to have it end pretty much every damn match, which once again just drives home the fact that their in-rng quality is below par.

[EvilButters]

I just watched that Do Fixer Vs Blood Generation match and damn...that was incredible.

[chokeychicken]

Reguarding kicking out of the finisher and then being put out by a clothesline, this is most likely due to you only viewing WWE in which finishers have become the official end to a match and really just over hyped. Not long ago when the name was still WWF, finisher's were not always used to end the match. One of my favorite matches of all time, Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart at Wrestlemania X was won with a vicotry roll, yet it was just as dramatic as any finisher.

I would rather see someone take a finisher, kick out and then not have enough to kick out of a smaller, yet still well landed move. WWE have conditioned people to pop for the finisher and to have it end pretty much every damn match, which once again just drives home the fact that their in-rng quality is below par.

no no no i agree with you here. bret vs. own, in my opinion, is one of the better matches ever, and certianly one of the best opening matches to a PPV.

i have been a WWE fan pretty much since i was in elementary school, so i have adapted to their match habits. however, i guess my point was the entire last 4-5 minutes of the match was not built up as well as it could have been. here you've got this huge dramatic 40 minute match that has already been continued once, and somebody's career is on the line as well as a world title and out of nowhere comes this dramatic finisher that looks devastating and he kicks out. Ok, that's awesome .. but 30 seconds later, a clothesline puts him out? I would have liked a little bit better buildup towards that clothesline - it was great, but it could have been amazing.

just my 2 cents.

[Lost Glories]

I just watched that Do Fixer Vs Blood Generation match and damn...that was incredible.

it really was. never slow. and the dragon gate rules is a nice addition.

[EnderDove]

no no no i agree with you here. bret vs. own, in my opinion, is one of the better matches ever, and certianly one of the best opening matches to a PPV.

i have been a WWE fan pretty much since i was in elementary school, so i have adapted to their match habits. however, i guess my point was the entire last 4-5 minutes of the match was not built up as well as it could have been. here you've got this huge dramatic 40 minute match that has already been continued once, and somebody's career is on the line as well as a world title and out of nowhere comes this dramatic finisher that looks devastating and he kicks out. Ok, that's awesome .. but 30 seconds later, a clothesline puts him out? I would have liked a little bit better buildup towards that clothesline - it was great, but it could have been amazing.

just my 2 cents.

While a different move could've been better, at least it was a clothesline with some mustard on it and Danielson sold it very well. It didn't just look like an average clothesline. Still a better match than WWE has put on since I don't know when.

[Kif]

I've got to agree with chokey somewhat. That match had been built up for months, and everyone knew Homicide was winning the title. Even when Danielson put cattle mutilation on, I knew Homicide would get out of it. So yeah, I was expecting a little more from that match considering how rare title changes are in ROH.ß

[thedood]

I used to be huge (HUGE) into wrestling, not so much anymore. But I do know mostly what is going on...and i think Cena is bad for business.

[EnderDove]

I've got to agree with chokey somewhat. That match had been built up for months, and everyone knew Homicide was winning the title. Even when Danielson put cattle mutilation on, I knew Homicide would get out of it. So yeah, I was expecting a little more from that match considering how rare title changes are in ROH.ß

I would've liked to see something different end the match, however my point was that finishers as a whole, especially in WWE are just terrible.

The F-U is nothing more than a body slam, same as the Rock Bottom. The list of terrible ones goes on, but thats a different story.

[Kif]

WWE can get away with that though, since they are appealing to a way different audience. I still love seeing Randy Orton just hit an RKO out of nowhere, or the anticipation of Sweet Chin Music. That idea of finishers is very much terrible, but damn it is entertaining.

Speaking of, has anyone noticed CM Punk starting to use the Go-2-Sleep? What's up with that?

[mht]

I am glad the Hardys are champs.

[halifaxonfire]

i'm watching raw right now and i don't understand how they can try to keep Cena as a face or even a headliner. the boos almost overshadow the cheers. his mic skills are horrible too. but not nearly as bad as his ring performance.

[Kif]

Cena's mic skills were awesome when he first started in WWE. He had those horrible raps he'd do, they were so funny to watch.

[2wo_2one]

I would've liked to see something different end the match, however my point was that finishers as a whole, especially in WWE are just terrible.

The F-U is nothing more than a body slam, same as the Rock Bottom. The list of terrible ones goes on, but thats a different story.

Laziness.That's what it's come to.

[Lost Glories]

Speaking of, has anyone noticed CM Punk starting to use the Go-2-Sleep? What's up with that?

he loves KENTA? :shrug:

[Lost Glories]

Laziness.That's what it's come to.

not necessarily. i dont think they want high impact finishers due to the fact that they can be botched very easily. and wwe is very protective over there investment. but then again any move can be botched to cause injury. i just think they dont like to push their luck.

im surprised they let punk do the go2sleep since you can easily break a nose or jaw.

so dont expect a cop killer or even a psycho driver from any of the superstars.

id love to see someone execute a yakuza kick like good ol' El Generico. his are legendary imo. full impact to the face.

[Kif]

he loves KENTA? :shrug:
Can't blame him really heh.

Maybe WWE just doesn't want him using the Pepsi Plunge, since it's just a Pedigree from the top rope.

[Lost Glories]

id personally love to see any heel do a super dragon curb stomp. or even a low ki ghetto stomp,

[EnderDove]

not necessarily. i dont think they want high impact finishers due to the fact that they can be botched very easily. and wwe is very protective over there investment. but then again any move can be botched to cause injury. i just think they dont like to push their luck.

im surprised they let punk do the go2sleep since you can easily break a nose or jaw.

so dont expect a cop killer or even a psycho driver from any of the superstars.

id love to see someone execute a yakuza kick like good ol' El Generico. his are legendary imo. full impact to the face.

For years they've toned down certain moves, that is to be expected by them though. However it's plain annoying to someone who isn't a casual fan, although WWE could care less.

Cena for example again, not only is the F-U a body slam, his "STFU" in no way looks like it would cause pain to his opponenet. His just puts his arms across his face and acts like an idiot.

Another example, the tombstone and all piledrivers were banned years ago, yet they would still allow them to happen every once in awhile, do them and trust that trained althletes will execute them properly or don't do them at all. Owen Hart's piledriver that hurt Austin's neck to me is a different story, accidents to happen, however as long as people are trained right, they wont. Of course, WWE brings in some pretty shitty people sometimes that I wouldn't let pick me up in the air.

The last thing, finishers that have been changed. The main example would be The Pedigree. For years, HHH would hold onto both arms on the way down, for the longest time now he simply lets go and pushes on their back, ugh, no thank you.

As for CM Punk not being able to do the Pepsi Plunge, the main reason would be it is out of the WWE style which is extreme safety first, in most cases. Second would be since it's a version of the Pedigree. However, the safety is the main reason, same reason the shooting star press has also been banned, or it was for quite some time.

[Signals Corrupted]

id personally love to see any heel do a super dragon curb stomp. or even a low ki ghetto stomp,

He did the curbstomp to Jade Chong at Battle of Los Angeles, and I fucking marked out. Just as I marked out for the Yakuza kick to Candace.

[Lost Glories]

He did the curbstomp to Jade Chong at Battle of Los Angeles, and I fucking marked out. Just as I marked out for the Yakuza kick to Candace.

both in fact were brutal.

i watched that BOLA 06.

super dragon is a bad ass.

[EvilButters]

I thought the shooting star press was banned because Paul London landed on Juvi's head or something. I remember reading about it, but it's been awhile and there's been so much wrestling news since then.

I like Punk doing the Go 2 Sleep. I like the move, I like KENTA, and I like Punk. So if he's influenced by KENTA and/or wants to use one of his moves...I'm all for it. I was actually hoping to see a Go 2 Sleep off the top of a ladder during the MITB match at Wrestlemania. Extremely dangerous? Yeah, but it would have been incredibly awesome.

[last light]

I thought the shooting star press was banned because Paul London landed on Juvi's head or something. I remember reading about it, but it's been awhile and there's been so much wrestling news since then.

I like Punk doing the Go 2 Sleep. I like the move, I like KENTA, and I like Punk. So if he's influenced by KENTA and/or wants to use one of his moves...I'm all for it. I was actually hoping to see a Go 2 Sleep off the top of a ladder during the MITB match at Wrestlemania. Extremely dangerous? Yeah, but it would have been incredibly awesome.

that would have been nuts.

[Kif]

Punk was disappointing in the ladder match. I don't think anyone will take him seriously while he's in ECWWE.

[Signals Corrupted]

that would have been nuts.

You need to go to the PWG Tag Team Tournament next month.

[last light]

You need to go to the PWG Tag Team Tournament next month.


whats the date?

[Signals Corrupted]

Punk was disappointing in the ladder match. I don't think anyone will take him seriously while he's in ECWWE.

I disagree, I thought he looked strong in that match - he didn't get too much offense, but there wasn't much to go around. You can only get so many spots in when there's 8 guys in there. At least he got the last "fake finish" of the match, and for a moment, it looked like he was going to grab the briefcase.

[thatwasamoment]

wrestlinggonewrong.com is an interesting site to check out.

[Signals Corrupted]

whats the date?

May 19th and 20th (http://www.prowrestlingguerrilla.com/tagteamtournament)

[last light]

May 19th and 20th (http://www.prowrestlingguerrilla.com/tagteamtournament)

excellent, i can make those dates. ill be going.

[last light]

is there a place to get tickets now? or just at the door?

[Lost Glories]

is there a place to get tickets now? or just at the door?

pre sale was this last weekend at all star weekend. im sure they'll sell them soon on the site.

american dragon vs. CIMA = must see.

[last light]

pre sale was this last weekend at all star weekend. im sure they'll sell them soon on the site.

american dragon vs. CIMA = must see.

ya im there for sure. 5 miles from my house haha.

[Lost Glories]

May 19th and 20th (http://www.prowrestlingguerrilla.com/tagteamtournament)

did you get front row?

i didnt even ask you as we were sitting there.

those damn guys behind us were annoying as fuck.

[Signals Corrupted]

is there a place to get tickets now? or just at the door?

They go on sale online at noon tomorrow through their website. 2-day pass = $40 for General Admission - but for your first PWG experience, I would recommend 2-day pass for front row, which is $50.


That goes for any SoCal APer who has ever been a wrestling fan - PWG live blows away almost any wrestling match you've ever seen on cable.

[Lost Glories]

ya im there for sure. 5 miles from my house haha.

what is this venue by?

ive never been to west hills.

[last light]

They go on sale online at noon tomorrow through their website. 2-day pass = $40 for General Admission - but for your first PWG experience, I would recommend 2-day pass for front row, which is $50.


That goes for any SoCal APer who has ever been a wrestling fan - PWG live blows away almost any wrestling match you've ever seen on cable.

awesome.

[Signals Corrupted]

did you get front row?

i didnt even ask you as we were sitting there.

those damn guys behind us were annoying as fuck.

Yeah I definitely got front row. The guys that Brandon sits with were more annoying than anything, during the Richards/Hero match.

[Lost Glories]

They go on sale online at noon tomorrow through their website. 2-day pass = $40 for General Admission - but for your first PWG experience, I would recommend 2-day pass for front row, which is $50.


That goes for any SoCal APer who has ever been a wrestling fan - PWG live blows away almost any wrestling match you've ever seen on cable.

joe vs ki was great.

[Lost Glories]

Yeah I definitely got front row. The guys that Brandon sits with were more annoying than anything, during the Richards/Hero match.

yeah im glad super dragon threw that chair at those guys.

[last light]

what is this venue by?

ive never been to west hills.

Im not exactly sure, but reading the directions it seemed like it was near the Fallbrook mall, which is an easy enough way to find it.

[Signals Corrupted]

what is this venue by?

ive never been to west hills.

It's about an hour drive for us. I meant to ask you, by the way, did I bug Joel? Hahaha, I was wondering, cause I remember you saying before WM, that he doesn't like some people or something

[Lost Glories]

i know mapquest is going to screw with me by taking me in circles.

[Lost Glories]

It's about an hour drive for us. I meant to ask you, by the way, did I bug Joel? Hahaha, I was wondering, cause I remember you saying before WM, that he doesn't like some people or something

no not at all. he thinks your a cool guy. he just has to adapt. me and him took awhile to get along and now were good. he knows everything there is to know about the business. 70's 80's 90's through all companies

[last light]

ill drive by the place prior to the show so ill let you guys know haha.

[Lost Glories]

ill drive by the place prior to the show so ill let you guys know haha.

great news. what exits off the freeway would be great.

VINCE! carpool this time?

[Signals Corrupted]

yeah im glad super dragon threw that chair at those guys.

Yeah word hahaha that was one of two outbursts for me, when I started screaming "fuck 'em up, Dragon!" haha.

[Signals Corrupted]

great news. what exits off the freeway would be great.

VINCE! carpool this time?

Yeah dude, definitely. I wish we would have done that this time haha, I got my truck back this morning.


Tyler, you are going to love this stuff. Of the people I've taken to PWG, only two have not enjoyed it: one is a girl, and the other is a homosexual.

[Lost Glories]

Yeah dude, definitely. I wish we would have done that this time haha, I got my truck back this morning.


Tyler, you are going to love this stuff. Of the people I've taken to PWG, only two have not enjoyed it: one is a girl, and the other is a homosexual.

hahahahah

my girl loved it when joey ryan rubbed his chest hair in front of her.

[Signals Corrupted]

hahahahah

my girl loved it when joey ryan rubbed his chest hair in front of her.

Haha, yeah, he did that same "Look at my bulge" pose with my ex-lady haha. It was funny.

[Lost Glories]

then he told her "its never too late to upgrade"

bastard

[last light]

Yeah dude, definitely. I wish we would have done that this time haha, I got my truck back this morning.


Tyler, you are going to love this stuff. Of the people I've taken to PWG, only two have not enjoyed it: one is a girl, and the other is a homosexual.

haha i have no doubt ill love it. i should have gotten into these shows awhile ago but didnt for whatever reason. i cant stand the wwe product anymore, or TNA besides some of their PPV's here and there.

No storyline, let the wrestlers tell it themselves...sounds good to me.

[Signals Corrupted]

http://a726.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/l_2f4ad071bad026bd0228f2bb96d18a4d. jpg

[Signals Corrupted]

haha i have no doubt ill love it. i should have gotten into these shows awhile ago but didnt for whatever reason. i cant stand the wwe product anymore, or TNA besides some of their PPV's here and there.

No storyline, let the wrestlers tell it themselves...sounds good to me.

It took Jason (Lost Glories) a while to start going too. And now he hasn't missed a show this year. That is dedication.

[Lost Glories]

what can i say? i'm a mark for great shows.

i havent been let down since

[Signals Corrupted]

So, this is Jay Lethal's (new old) gimmick in TNA..

http://mattboom.smugmug.com/photos/139086452-L.jpg

What do you guys think of the second coming of the Macho Man?

[Kif]

I'm surprised TNA haven't been sued about this yet.

[EvilButters]

Punk was disappointing in the ladder match. I don't think anyone will take him seriously while he's in ECWWE.

I don't think he was disappointing, but it seems like whenever he's in a match with higher stakes...he gets fucked over. It was the same way at that match at Survivor Series(I think) where he teamed up with The Hardy Boyz and DX. It was like...the only reason he was able to stay in the match was because HBK saved him after Orton hit that RKO on him. When he's in singles competition, I think he's been pretty strong. Look how long he was undefeated. He also just beat King Booker on SmackDown! a week or two ago. Don't get me wrong, I loved seeing him in ROH and being on the whole indy scene but at least this way I can actually see him wrestle on cable every week and not have to worry about buying a DVD or waiting for someone to put up the download from his latest match because I wasn't able to see it.

Another thing, there are no indy wrestling shows around here that I know of. That PWG tag team tournament sounds amazing. It's a shame something like it isn't coming to Houston.

[Lost Glories]

I don't think he was disappointing, but it seems like whenever he's in a match with higher stakes...he gets fucked over. It was the same way at that match at Survivor Series(I think) where he teamed up with The Hardy Boyz and DX. It was like...the only reason he was able to stay in the match was because HBK saved him after Orton hit that RKO on him. When he's in singles competition, I think he's been pretty strong. Look how long he was undefeated. He also just beat King Booker on SmackDown! a week or two ago. Don't get me wrong, I loved seeing him in ROH and being on the whole indy scene but at least this way I can actually see him wrestle on cable every week and not have to worry about buying a DVD or waiting for someone to put up the download from his latest match because I wasn't able to see it.

Another thing, there are no indy wrestling shows around here that I know of. That PWG tag team tournament sounds amazing. It's a shame something like it isn't coming to Houston.

yeah we are very lucky to have such an amazing promotion in our area.

[EvilButters]

yeah we are very lucky to have such an amazing promotion in our area.

Yeah you are. I'm jealous.

[Lost Glories]

buy the DVDs man. i do. yet they havent released the first show i went to.

but stil Battle of Los Angeles 2005 and 2006 is well worth it my friend. INVEST!

[EnderDove]

So I watched a bit of the first One Night Stand today, nothing close to original ECW action but still had some good matches. *marks out for Lionheart*

I asked before, maybe it got lost, does anyone play Total Extreme Warfare? Think Football Manager but wrestling, you book/run your own promotion. Whether it's a real one of one you create to challenge WWE and such. Basically it's like crack for a wrestling fan who enjoy's the business and wants to book.

[last light]

they turned CM Punk heal tonight haha, not going to work in WWE.

[last light]

So I watched a bit of the first One Night Stand today, nothing close to original ECW action but still had some good matches. *marks out for Lionheart*

That is all.

the first one was good for the most part. last years was pretty weak though.

[mht]

they turned CM Punk heal tonight haha, not going to work in WWE.


thats what happens when you come out to Killswitch Engage or whatever fuck band that is.

[last light]

hahha killswitch engage = terrible heal turn

[Signals Corrupted]

So I watched a bit of the first One Night Stand today, nothing close to original ECW action but still had some good matches. *marks out for Lionheart*

I asked before, maybe it got lost, does anyone play Total Extreme Warfare? Think Football Manager but wrestling, you book/run your own promotion. Whether it's a real one of one you create to challenge WWE and such. Basically it's like crack for a wrestling fan who enjoy's the business and wants to book.

I've tried it. I was really impressed at all the talent they actually had in the game. It's not really my thing, though.

[Lost Glories]

hahha killswitch engage = terrible heal turn

but cult of personality was a great heel turn in ROH for Punk.

[Lost Glories]

plus i dont even bother watching ecw.

what the hell are they trying to make with snitsky?

[Signals Corrupted]

hahha killswitch engage = terrible heal turn

Punk's song is one of the better theme songs.


Anyway, I always miss ECW because I have class at that time - Did Punk PHYSICALLY turn on any of the originals? If not, I would almost expect tonight's apparent turn to be a swerve, and for him to pull something on the New Breed, in the vein Of Diamond Dallas Page when he refused the NWO. haha

[Signals Corrupted]

but cult of personality was a great heel turn in ROH for Punk.

Punk as a heel fucking RULES. And plus, there is a built-in feud with the originals already, since they are all potheads haha. I wouldn't mind seeing Punk and Van Dam feud all summer. That would actually fucking rule.

[Lost Glories]

Punk as a heel fucking RULES. And plus, there is a built-in feud with the originals already, since they are all potheads haha. I wouldn't mind seeing Punk and Van Dam feud all summer. That would actually fucking rule.

i wouldnt mind them bringing in the TV Title.

Since RVD was the Longest Reiging Champ just have a tournament for it and have punk and rvd in the finals. and whoever wins gets chased for it.

[mht]

hahha killswitch engage = terrible heal turn


pretty much lol.

[last light]

ya, i agree Punk was a good heal in ROH...the crowd reaction tonight said it all though haha.

[last light]

I think the problem is nobody is really invested in the Originals...sans RVD. RVD vs Punk could be a great match...but the WWE with blow it off way too quickly.

[Lost Glories]

ya, i agree Punk was a good heal in ROH...the crowd reaction tonight said it all though haha.

how was the crowd to it?

i didnt see it.

and no site has in depth reviews yet.

[Signals Corrupted]

ya, i agree Punk was a good heal in ROH...the crowd reaction tonight said it all though haha.

What was the crowd reaction?

[last light]

it was just a cold reaction. nobody cared, the set-up for the turn was terrible. it was also probably the worst ECW ive seen...i rarely watch and realized why haha.

The new breed lifted him on their shoulders and everyone just sort of didnt care.

If i were booking id have him join the originals, start getting annoyed with sandman's drinking...RVD's spotlight, then turn on them at a PPV...that would have been good and possibly get the fans invested.

[Lost Glories]

it was just a cold reaction. nobody cared, the set-up for the turn was terrible. it was also probably the worst ECW ive seen...i rarely watch and realized why haha.

The new breed lifted him on their shoulders and everyone just sort of didnt care.

If i were booking id have him join the originals, start getting annoyed with sandman's drinking...RVD's spotlight, then turn on them at a PPV...that would have been good and possibly get the fans invested.

hahah i figured. just cause he gets a huge pop, doesnt mean the fans care for him

[mht]

that vampire dude that runs around on ECW is enough for me turn it off

plus the fact that the fucking ECW champ is on RAW more than he is on ECW is pretty pathetic... lol

[last light]

i just get the feeling he'll come out next week, and everyone is going to forget he turned. hopefully they let him cut a promo/actually show what he can do in the ring.

[mattregan]

is doink the clown world champion yet?

[Signals Corrupted]

is doink the clown world champion yet?

That was funny. Or something.

[Signals Corrupted]

i just get the feeling he'll come out next week, and everyone is going to forget he turned. hopefully they let him cut a promo/actually show what he can do in the ring.

Yeah that is key right there - whether or not he gets promo time next week.

[mht]

That was funny. Or something.


lolol

[EnderDove]

that vampire dude that runs around on ECW is enough for me turn it off

plus the fact that the fucking ECW champ is on RAW more than he is on ECW is pretty pathetic... lol

He's a real "thorn" in my ass, pun intended.

[Signals Corrupted]

He's a real "thorn" in my ass, pun intended.

Speaking of ass, Ariel has a fine one.

[Lost Glories]

He's a real "thorn" in my ass, pun intended.

a modern day gangrel.

except ariel is pretty hot imo.

i think they were supposed to start a new brood when gangrel was under contract

[EnderDove]

I used to love love love Gangrel's music.

The whole Ministry of Darkness and everything that surrounded it was at the time when WWF/E knew what they were doing. I still remember Kurt Angle putting the ankle lock on Edge or Christian and demanding to know where Taker was holding Stephanie at, haha. Oh the good ole' days.

[chokeychicken]

i got ECW One Night Stand in from netflix today. so pumped to watch it.

[EvilButters]

buy the DVDs man. i do. yet they havent released the first show i went to.

but stil Battle of Los Angeles 2005 and 2006 is well worth it my friend. INVEST!

I do when I can. What promotion is that? PWG? I have a few ROH DVDs; all the best of CM Punk DVDs, Punk: The Final Chapter, and the Third Anniversary Celebration Parts 1 and 2.

I'll have to download ECW to see Punk turn heel. Punk's promos are always great, especially when he's a heel. I hope the WWE gives him some mic time. A Punk/RVD feud would be pretty sweet. I'm all for Punk getting any exposure he can and a match against RVD would definitely do it.

[Lost Glories]

I do when I can. What promotion is that? PWG? I have a few ROH DVDs; all the best of CM Punk DVDs, Punk: The Final Chapter, and the Third Anniversary Celebration Parts 1 and 2.

I'll have to download ECW to see Punk turn heel.

yeah pwg. get them from Highspots.com

[Kif]

I used to love love love Gangrel's music.

The whole Ministry of Darkness and everything that surrounded it was at the time when WWF/E knew what they were doing. I still remember Kurt Angle putting the ankle lock on Edge or Christian and demanding to know where Taker was holding Stephanie at, haha. Oh the good ole' days.
Man I miss the Ministry. That was when promos were really pushing it, like when Taker was going to kill Austin, and Kane came in and saved him. And yeah, that Stephanie thing was pretty hilarious too.

[mht]

Ron Simmons is the best wrestler on Raw hands down currently.

[thatwasamoment]

Ron Simmons is the best wrestler on Raw hands down currently.we are the nation of domination.

[Signals Corrupted]

Hey Tyler, you can now purchase your Tag Team Tourney tickets www.prowrestlingguerrilla.com

[last light]

nice, ill grab them...thanks

[leftstranded]

i wondered if anyone would create a thread for this. good work

[Lost Glories]

Hey Tyler, you can now purchase your Tag Team Tourney tickets www.prowrestlingguerrilla.com (http://www.prowrestlingguerrilla.com)

nice avatar man.

ill wait till i have a big avatar to promote

[Signals Corrupted]

nice avatar man.

ill wait till i have a big avatar to promote

I'm seriously hoping for Ryan/Steen Guerrilla Warfare for night 2, but I doubt it.

[last light]

so i need to email for the front row tix?

[Signals Corrupted]

so i need to email for the front row tix?

Yeah, I believe so. It is a shitty system hahaha. But they have to do it that way because front row tix are very limited.

[Lost Glories]

so i need to email for the front row tix?

they dont really make sense but i say try it.

see what they tell you

[last light]

ya i emailed.

[Lost Glories]

I'm seriously hoping for Ryan/Steen Guerrilla Warfare for night 2, but I doubt it.

i think it depends on the venue if it could happen cause they'll be everywhere.

id love to see it too.

[Lost Glories]

Joel is going through crazy with this big gap between shows. we're used to the every other week.

[Signals Corrupted]

The Tag Team Tourney tix are really cool looking. I hope they don't rip the tix in half like usual haha.

[last light]

ill be driving by the venue tonight i think, so ill let you guys know of any odd directions haha.

[Signals Corrupted]

Joel is going through crazy with this big gap between shows. we're used to the every other week.

I think the shows are just going to be monthly all through the summer up until Battle Of Los Angeles 07. I think BOLA is really going to feel like a big deal this year - it got a lot of publicity last year - praise as the best Indy Tournament.

[Signals Corrupted]

ill be driving by the venue tonight i think, so ill let you guys know of any odd directions haha.

Awesome. Make note of whether there's sufficient parking, and any nearby bathrooms haha.

[last light]

im pretty sure i know where it is...and if its the place im thinking of theres a mall literally across the street...but ill let you guys know for sure.

[Lost Glories]

Awesome. Make note of whether there's sufficient parking, and any nearby bathrooms haha.

yeah especially if we are waiting before doors open again.

cause if i have to piss. i have to piss

[EvilButters]

yeah pwg. get them from Highspots.com

Thanks for that. I'll have to check it out. I watched that ECW where Punk turns heel. It was alright, but they need to give him a lot of mic time if he's going to be heel. That's when he shines. The crowd reaction wasn't half as bad as I thought it was going to be. You could hear a little bit of booing in there.

[last light]

got the 1st row seats...so stoked.

[Signals Corrupted]

got the 1st row seats...so stoked.

Awesome - did you get one set, or a pair for each day?

[last light]

i got the 2 day pass, 2 seats...adam is going also.

[Signals Corrupted]

Sweet. Just remember, we boo the ref that looks like this guy:

http://www.nndb.com/people/825/000022759/molinaro.jpg

[EnderDove]

i got ECW One Night Stand in from netflix today. so pumped to watch it.

Hopefully you got the first one in 2005 and not last years. If you got the first one, the first match should make you happy, Lionheart Chris Jericho vs. Lance Storm, wooooo!


So, while this isn't the best example, it does show that John Cena is capable of decent matches, especially with talent like Bryan Danielson. Now remember, I hate Cena, however this does show that for some that may not know, there was a time when he could hold his own in the ring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf-kiUcAdVI

[Lost Glories]

Sweet. Just remember, we boo the ref that looks like this guy:

http://www.nndb.com/people/825/000022759/molinaro.jpg

hahah when i did when he came out for joe vs. ki. he looked me straight in the eye and looked emotionally hurt.

it was awesome.

we need to get the same seats as last time. they were perfect.

[chokeychicken]

remember when the taker tried to crucify austin on raw?

[Signals Corrupted]

hahah when i did when he came out for joe vs. ki. he looked me straight in the eye and looked emotionally hurt.

it was awesome.

we need to get the same seats as last time. they were perfect.

Haha that ref gave me more of an "if I find out what you're driving, I'm going to fuck it up" look.

But you guys left me hangin' man! I popped up to boo the guy and screamed my head off, and you guys just chilled and laughed hahaha.

[Lost Glories]

Haha that ref gave me more of an "if I find out what you're driving, I'm going to fuck it up" look.

But you guys left me hangin' man! I popped up to boo the guy and screamed my head off, and you guys just chilled and laughed hahaha.

haha dont think joel will chant. he hates chants.

but i did. first time ever too.

at least i shook colts hand before i left.

[Signals Corrupted]

haha dont think joel will chant. he hates chants.

but i did. first time ever too.

at least i shook colts hand before i left.

I'm bitter that in his last match for PWG, he had to team with fucking Top Gun.

Even Adam Pearce is better than fucking Top Gun.

[Lost Glories]

I'm bitter that in his last match for PWG, he had to team with fucking Top Gun.

Even Adam Pearce is better than fucking Top Gun.

at least it was hilarious.

kikutaro is great in my book.

[Signals Corrupted]

at least it was hilarious.

kikutaro is great in my book.

Hahaha

colt: Why did you just kick Taro?!
kikitaro: Yes, my name is Kikitaro!

[Lost Glories]

i think your best friend top gun asked him why he kicked taro.

[EnderDove]

Just watched Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio Jr, Mask vs. Title at Halloween Havoc. So good, damn I miss Eddie.

[Lost Glories]

Just watched Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio Jr, Mask vs. Title at Halloween Havoc. So good, damn I miss Eddie.

i think that was a 5 star match if im not mistaken. or close to.

[chokeychicken]

Just watched Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio Jr, Mask vs. Title at Halloween Havoc. So good, damn I miss Eddie.

where?

[EnderDove]

where?

Rey Mysterio dvd I bought a couple of years ago. The story portion of it is terrible, however some of the matches are classics.

His debut match against Malenko, first cruiserweight championship win vs. Malenko, vs. Psicosis at Bash at the Beach, vs. Jericho at Bash at the Beach and vs. Guerrero, plus several WWE ones that are okay.


The past couple hours I was watching some of those and the Chris Beniot dvd with those three great New Japan Pro Wrestling matches on there.

[EnderDove]

Okay you Dragon Gate fans, help me out.

I think I may get one of the ROH shows featuring Dragon Gate, which one would be the best one to pick up first though?

Dragon Gate Invasion or Dragon Gate Challenge?

Any thoughts would be very much appreciated.

[Lost Glories]

here are some star ratings to help you

Dragon Gate Invasion- Buffalo, NY 8/27/05
1. Ricky Reyes vs. Puma **1/2
2. Chad Collyer vs. Davey Andrews vs. Jimmy Jacobs vs. Kevin Steen (Four Corner Survival) **
3. Homicide vs. El Generico **1/4
4. Curry Man vs. Shingo Takagi **
5. Samoa Joe vs. Nigel McGuinness (ROH Pure Title Match) **1/2
6. Dunn & Marcos vs. Shane Hagadorn & Matt Turner *
7. Jimmy Rave & Spanky vs. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong ***
8. AJ Styles vs. CIMA ***1/2
9. James Gibson vs. Colt Cabana (ROH World Title Match) ***

Dragon Gate Challenge- Detroit, MI 3/30/06
1. Homicide vs. Colt Cabana (Falls Count Anywhere Match) *
2. Ricky Reyes vs. Chad Collyer *1/2
3. BJ Whitmer vs. Jimmy Jacobs (Grudge Match) ***
4. Jimmy Yang vs. Ryo Saito (Dragon Gate Challenge Series) **1/2
5. Alex Shelley & Jimmy Rave vs. Bryan Danielson & Delirious **3/4
6. Claudio Castagnoli vs. Shane Haggadorn *1/2
7. A.J. Styles & Matt Sydal vs. Dragon Kid & Genki Horiguchi (Dragon Gate Challenge Series) ***1/2
8. Austin Aries, Roderick Strong & Jack Evans vs. CIMA & Naruki Doi & Masato Yoshino (Dragon Gate Challenge Series) ****
9. Christopher Daniels vs. Samoa Joe (Grudge Match) ***1/2

to be honest its a hard decision. they both have their ups and downs.

id say both. but then i would say dragon gate challenge due to the higher rating average.

i perfer the invasion card. due to some wrestlers being there from my home promotion. but its really your call.

hope that helps.

[Signals Corrupted]

Okay you Dragon Gate fans, help me out.

I think I may get one of the ROH shows featuring Dragon Gate, which one would be the best one to pick up first though?

Dragon Gate Invasion or Dragon Gate Challenge?

Any thoughts would be very much appreciated.

If you don't have Supercard Of Honor, I'd recommend getting that (if you haven't seen the famous Blood Generation vs. Do Fixer match.)

Then I'd go with Dragon Gate Challenge - great six-man match on that card too (Austin Aries/Roderick Strong/Jack Evans vs. CIMA/Naruki Doi/Masato Yoshino

Dragon Gate Invasion is skip-able, in my opinion. If you want to see a nearly perfect CIMA singles match, you should get Pro Wrestling Guerrilla's Battle of Los Angeles 2006. It was a truly amazing three-day event.

[Signals Corrupted]

The past couple hours I was watching some of those and the Chris Beniot dvd with those three great New Japan Pro Wrestling matches on there.

I got the Benoit DVD at WalMart for 4 bucks. I was in shock at this price. There were others too: Brock Lesnar, Rob Van Dam, No Way Out 2006 (Angle vs. Undertaker.. fucking classic match), and the Greatest Managers DVD

[Andy K]

I had never heard of ROH until I read this post. It looks pretty cool and I will definately check out some matches when I get off work. I noticed some of the ROH wrestlers were on that Wrestling Society X show that was on MTV a couple months ago. It was cancelled (I think), I wonder what you all thought of it?

I only caught the last hour of RAW last week, but I thought it was pretty weak, accept for the Hardy's match. I'm really glad they are the new world tag team champs.

[Lost Glories]

I had never heard of ROH until I read this post. It looks pretty cool and I will definately check out some matches when I get off work. I noticed some of the ROH wrestlers were on that Wrestling Society X show that was on MTV a couple months ago. It was cancelled (I think), I wonder what you all thought of it?

I only caught the last hour of RAW last week, but I thought it was pretty weak, accept for the Hardy's match. I'm really glad they are the new world tag team champs.

ROH is Hands Down the best wrestling in the US today.

full of all the up and coming stars. they bring in alot of Japanese wrestlers as well to spice things up. although they have been slowly losing there top guys lately they still have plenty left.

Wrestling Society X, in my opinion, while good at putting local indy guys on TV, was horribly packaged as some sort of gimmick promotion. with all the non sense explosions, the over the top ring announcer, and they also had there fare share of overrated veterans. as you can see it did alot for some wrestlers getting signed to WWE such as Matt Classic (Colt Cabana)(although hes tied in with CM Punk and Ace Steel who is in Deep South...and i believe Ricky Steamboat and mick foley loved the guy) and alot of the guys getting some try out matches.

WWE is at its worst right now. the only good thing they did was put the belt around TAKER and making Kennedy Mr. MITB.

[uafsjim]

The tag division on RAW seems to be shaping up a little lately; The Hardy Boys, Benjamin and Haas, Murdoch and Cade, The Highlanders, Flair and Carlito. The tag team division has really been put on the back burner the past few years, what do you guys think?

[Lost Glories]

The tag division on RAW seems to be shaping up a little lately; The Hardy Boys, Benjamin and Haas, Murdoch and Cade, The Highlanders, Flair and Carlito. The tag team division has really been put on the back burner the past few years, what do you guys think?

the flair carlito thing will be over.
the highlanders arent a tv quality tag team.
murdoch and cade are just awful
benjamin and haas get no respect.
and the hardys are ok.

dont expect the wwe to get a tag division like they had in the 90s or even early 00's

[EnderDove]

If you don't have Supercard Of Honor, I'd recommend getting that (if you haven't seen the famous Blood Generation vs. Do Fixer match.)

Then I'd go with Dragon Gate Challenge - great six-man match on that card too (Austin Aries/Roderick Strong/Jack Evans vs. CIMA/Naruki Doi/Masato Yoshino

Dragon Gate Invasion is skip-able, in my opinion. If you want to see a nearly perfect CIMA singles match, you should get Pro Wrestling Guerrilla's Battle of Los Angeles 2006. It was a truly amazing three-day event.

I did watch the Blood Generation vs. Do Fixer match, fantastic. I think I might get Dragon Gate challenge then, we shall see.

I got the Benoit DVD at WalMart for 4 bucks. I was in shock at this price. There were others too: Brock Lesnar, Rob Van Dam, No Way Out 2006 (Angle vs. Undertaker.. fucking classic match), and the Greatest Managers DVD

$4? Screw you. I paid $30 although that was when it first came out. It's my favorite box set they have done like that, with extra matches and the career story. Ultimate Ric Flair collection is damn good too though.

[2wo_2one]

dont expect the wwe to get a tag division like they had in the 90s or even early 00's

Exactly.

[uafsjim]

the flair carlito thing will be over.
the highlanders arent a tv quality tag team.
murdoch and cade are just awful
benjamin and haas get no respect.
and the hardys are ok.

dont expect the wwe to get a tag division like they had in the 90s or even early 00's

very true but at least they actualy have tag teams now. past couple years it seems like every tag team has just been 2 guys thrown together for a couple weeks. too bad they don't push benjamin and haas more, them vs. the hardys would be a good feud.

[Lost Glories]

very true but at least they actualy have tag teams now. past couple years it seems like every tag team has just been 2 guys thrown together for a couple weeks. too bad they don't push benjamin and haas more, them vs. the hardys would be a good feud.

shelton has no charisma.
hes a great athlete no doubt. but nowadays you cant get by on just athleticism. you need great mic skills. etc.

matt hardy was nothing without jeff.

i can slap a tornado.

[Lost Glories]

i wish i was old enough to experience first hand the greatness that was the 90s

all i have are tapes and dvds.

demolition, road warriors. the fabulous freebirds. the hart foundation. etc. etc. etc.

although i can say i seen the texas tornado (kerry von erich) live before he killed himself

[Signals Corrupted]

$4? Screw you. I paid $30 although that was when it first came out. It's my favorite box set they have done like that, with extra matches and the career story. Ultimate Ric Flair collection is damn good too though.

I think my fav. wrestler box set that they've put out was the Bret Hart one, with Ric Flair a close 2nd. Benoit one was great too - Brock Lesnar's box set is garbage.

[Signals Corrupted]

i wish i was old enough to experience first hand the greatness that was the 90s

all i have are tapes and dvds.

demolition, road warriors. the fabulous freebirds. the hart foundation. etc. etc. etc.

although i can say i seen the texas tornado (kerry von erich) live before he killed himself

Have you seen the Death of World Class DVD put out by Big Vision Entertainment?

[Lost Glories]

Have you seen the Death of World Class DVD put out by Big Vision Entertainment?

stupid joel hasnt burned it for me yet.

i heard it was a ***** doc. though.

i still need the awa dvd.

[Signals Corrupted]

stupid joel hasnt burned it for me yet.

i heard it was a ***** doc. though.

i still need the awa dvd.

Oh man, tell 'em to hop on that hahah. Both DVDs are very very good.

[Lost Glories]

hes lagging. he still needs to give me a bruiser brody dvd too that he promised.

he did good on my japan dvds though

[Lost Glories]

EnderDove: they have the buy 3 get one free deal over at ROHwrestling.com

i suggest you take advantage. let us know if you need some recommendations

[Signals Corrupted]

EnderDove: they have the buy 3 get one free deal over at ROHwrestling.com

i suggest you take advantage. let us know if you need some recommendations

I may jump on this, too - I'd like some new DVD's

[Kif]

I wonder what shipping is like to the UK. I usually download mine but I'd like to own some of them during Danielson's reign as champ.

[Lost Glories]

i think im going to hold off on this sale and wait for it next time.
i spent like 200 bucks last sale.

[Lost Glories]

I wonder what shipping is like to the UK. I usually download mine but I'd like to own some of them during Danielson's reign as champ.

just go through the whole process and see. im not to sure.

UNIFIED is a def if you want something from danielsons reign.

2 **** + matches is always good.

hero vs cabana

[Lost Glories]

Shipping to Outside US

$7.00 for first item. $2.50 each after.

[Signals Corrupted]

I need help here, what should I get besides Final Battle?

[Kif]

I remember seeing the little highlights of that match on rohvideos.com. I've been getting a few Danielson matches from pwtorrents actually. His title defenses are usually epic.

P.S. You win so hard for the Homicide avatar. I might upload one actually.

[Signals Corrupted]

I think I'll get Glory By Honor V night 1 & 2 also

[Kif]

Shipping to Outside US

$7.00 for first item. $2.50 each after.
Damn that's quite a lot.

[Kif]

I'm getting Glory By Honor V Nights 1 and 2, Death Before Dishonor IV and Black Friday Fallout I think.

[Signals Corrupted]

For ROH beginners, I found a really cool list of all the Ring Of Honor DVD's, listed in "chapters" that coincide with the major storylines

Chapter 1: 2/23/02 "Era Of Honor Begins" to 2/8/03 "First Anniversary Show"
1. The Era of Honor Begins 02-23-02 Philadelphia, PA
2. Round Robin Challenge 03-30-02 Philadelphia, PA
3. A Night of Appreciation 04-27-02 Philadelphia, PA
4. Road to the Title 06-22-02 Philadelphia, PA
5. Crowning A Champion 07-27-02 Philadelphia, PA
6. Honor Invades Boston 08-24-02 Wakefield, MA
7. Unscripted 09-21-02 Philadelphia, PA
8. Glory By Honor 10-05-02 Philadelphia, PA
9. All-Star Extravaganza 11-09-02 Philadelphia, PA
10. Scramble Madness 11-16-02 Wakefield, MA
11. Night of the Butcher 12-07-02 Philadelphia, PA
12. Final Battle 2002 12-28-02 Philadelphia, PA
13. Revenge of the Prophecy 01-11-03 West Mifflin, PA
14. One Year Anniversary Show 02-08-03 Queens, NY

Chapter 2: 3/15/03 "Expect The Unexpected" to 3/12/04 "At Our Best"
15. Expect the Unexpected 03-15-03 Cambridge, MA
16. Night of the Champions 03-22-03 Philadelphia, PA
17. The Epic Encounter 04-12-03 Philadelphia, PA
18. Retribution Round Rob Challenge II 04-26-03 West Mifflin, PA
19. Do or Die 05-31-03 Philadelphia, PA
20. Night of the Grudges 06-14-03 Cambridge, MA
21. WrestleRave 2003 06-28-03 Philadelphia, PA
22. Death Before Dishonor 07-19-03 Elizabeth, NJ
23. Wrath of the Racket 08-09-03 Dayton, OH
24. Bitter Friends, Stiffer Enemies 08-16-03 Fairfield, CT
25. Beating the Odds 09-06-03 Wakefield, MA
26. Glory By Honor II 09-20-03 Philadelphia, PA
27. Tradition Continues 10-16-03 Glen Burnie, MD
28. Empire State Showdown 10-25-03 Spencerport, NY
29. Main Event Spectacles 11-01-03 Elizabeth, NJ
30. The Conclusion 11-28-03 Fairfield, CT
31. War of the Wire 11-29-03 Farmington, MA
32. Final Battle 2003 12-27-03 Philadelphia, PA
33. The Battle Lines Are Drawn 01-10-04 Wilmington, OH
34. The Last Stand 01-29-04 Baltimore, MD
35. Second Anniversary Show 02-14-04 Braintree, MA
36. At Our Best 03-13-04 Elizabeth, NJ

Chapter 3: 4/23/04 "Reborn: Stage One" to 12/26/04 "Final Battle 2004"
37. ROH Reborn Stage One 04-23-04 St. Paul, MN
38. ROH Reborn Stage Two 04-24-04 Chicago Ridge, IL
39. Round Robin Challenge III 05-15-04 Lexington, MA
40. Generation Next 05-22-04 Philadelphia, PA
41. World Title Classic 06-12-04 Dayton, OH
42. Survival of the Fittest 06-24-04 Philadelphia, PA
43. ROH Reborn: Completion 07-17-04 Elizabeth, NJ
44. Death Before Dishonor II Part 1 07-23-04 Wauwatosa, WI
45. Death Before Dishonor II Part 2 07-24-04 Chicago Ridge, IL
46. Testing the Limit 08-07-04 Philadelphia, PA
47. Scramble Cage Melee 08-28-04 Braintree, MA
48. Glory By Honor III 09-11-04 Elizabeth, NJ
49. The Midnight Express Reunion 10-02-04 Philadelphia, PA
50. ROH Gold 10-15-04 Dayton, OH
51. Joe vs. Punk II 10-16-04 Chicago Ridge, IL
52. Weekend of Thunder Night 1 11-05-04 Revere, MA
53. Weekend of Thunder Night 2 11-06-04 Elizabeth, NJ
54. All-Star Extravaganza II 12-04-04 Elizabeth, NJ
55. Final Battle 2004 12-26-04 Philadelphia, PA

Chapter 4: 1/15/05 "It All Begins" to 6/12/05 "The Future Is Now"
56. It All Begins 01-15-05 Boston, MA
57. 3rd Anniversary Show Part 1 02-19-05 Elizabeth, NJ
58. 3rd Anniversary Show Part 2 02-25-05 Dayton, OH
59. 3rd Anniversary Show Part 3 02-26-05 Chicago Ridge, IL
60. Trios Tournament 03-05-05 Philadelphia, PA
61. Back to Basics 03-12-05 Woodbridge, CT
62. Best of the American Super Juniors 04-02-05 Asbury Park, NJ
63. Stalemate 04-16-05 Dorchester, MA
64. Manhattan Mayhem 05-07-05 New York, NY
65. The Final Showdown 05-13-05 Dayton, OH
66. Nowhere to Run 05-14-05 Chicago Ridge, IL
67. New Frontiers 06-04-05 Buffalo, NY
68. The Future is Now 06-12-05 New York, NY

Chapter 5: 6/18/05 "Death Before Dishonor III" to 8/12/05 "Redemption"
69. Death Before Dishonor III 06-18-05 Morristown, NJ
70. Sign of Dishonor 07-08-05 Long Island, NY
71. Escape from New York 07-09-05 New York, NY
72. Fate of an Angel 07-16-05 Woodbridge, CT
73. The Homecoming 07-23-05 Philadelphia, PA
74. Redemption 08-12-05 Dayton, OH

Chapter 6: 8/13/05 "Punk: The Final Chapter" to 2/11/06 "Unscripted II"
75. Punk: The Final Chapter 08-13-05 Chicago Ridge, IL
76. Night of the Grudges II 08-20-05 Morristown, NJ
77. Dragon Gate Invasion 08-27-05 Buffalo, NY
78. Glory By Honor IV 09-17-05 Lake Grove, NY
79. Survival of the Fittest 2005 09-24-05 Boston, MA
80. Joe vs. Kobashi 10-01-05 New York, NY
81. Unforgettable 10-02-05 Philadelphia, PA
82. Enter the Dragon 10-14-05 Cleveland, OH
83. Buffalo Stampede 10-15-05 Buffalo, NY
84. This Means War 10-29-05 Woodbridge, CT
85. Showdown in Motown 11-04-05 Detroit, MI
86. Vendetta 11-05-05 Chicago Ridge, IL
87. Night of Tribute 11-19-05 Long Island, NY
88. Steel Cage Warfare 12-03-05 New York, NY
89. Final Battle 2005 12-17-05 Edison, NJ
90. Hell Freezes Over 01-14-06 Philadelphia, PA
91. Tag Wars 2006 01-27-06 Dayton, OH
92. Dissension 01-28-06 Cleveland, OH
93. Unscripted II 02-11-06 Long Island, NY

Chapter 7: 2/25/06 "Fourth Anniversary Show" to 4/22/06 "The 100th Show"
94. Fourth Anniversary Show 02-25-06 Edison, NJ
95. Arena Warfare 03-11-06 Philadelphia, PA
96. Best In The World 03-25-06 New York, NY
97. Dragon Gate Challenge 03-30-06 Detroit, MI
98. Supercard of Honor 03-31-06 Chicago Ridge, IL
99. Better Than Our Best 04-01-06 Chicago Ridge, IL
100. The 100th Show 04-22-06 Philadelphia, PA

Chapter 8: 4/28/06 "Weekend Of Champions: Night One" to 12/23/06 "Final Battle 2006"
101. Weekend of Champions Night 1 04-28-06 Dayton, OH
102. Weekend of Champions Night 2 04-29-06 Cleveland, OH
103. How We Roll 05-12-06 Long Island, NY
104. Ring of Homicide 05-13-06 Edison, NJ
105. Destiny 06-03-06 East Windsor, CT
106. In Your Face 06-17-06 New York, NY
107. Throwdown 06-23-06 Detroit, MI
108. Chi-town Struggle 06-24-06 Chicago Ridge IL
109. Death Before Dishonor IV 07-15-06 Philadelphia, PA
110. War of the Wire II 07-28-06 Dayton, OH
111. Generation Now 07-29-06 Cleveland, OH
112. Time To Man Up 08-04-06 Long Island, NY
113. Fight of the Century 08-05-06 Edison, NJ
114. Unified 08-12-06 Liverpool, UK
115. Anarchy In the UK 08-13-06 Broxburne, UK
116. Epic Encounter II 08-25-06 St. Paul, MN
117. Gut Check 08-26-06 Chicago Ridge, IL
118. Glory By Honor V, Night 1 09-15-06 East Windsor, CT
119. Glory By Honor V, Night 2 09-16-06 New York, NY
120. Survival of the Fittest 2006 10-06-06 Cleveland, OH
121. Motor City Madness 10-07-06 Detroit, MI
122. Suffocation 10-27-06 Dayton, OH
123. Irresistible Forces 10-28-06 Chicago Ridge, IL
124. Honor Reclaims Boston 11-03-06 Braintree, MA
125. The Bitter End 11-04-06 Philadelphia, PA
126. Black Friday Fallout 11-24-06 Long Island, NY
127. Dethroned 11-25-06 Edison, NJ
128. The Chicago Spectacular Night 1 12-08-06 Chicago Ridge, IL
129. The Chicago Spectacular Night 2 12-09-06 Chicago Ridge, IL
130. International Challenge 12-22-03 Hartford, CT
131. Final Battle 2006 12-23-06 New York, NY

Chapter 9: 1/26/07, “Dedicated” to ???
131. Dedicated 01-26-07 Braintree, MA
132. Battle of the Icons 01-27-07 Edison, NJ
133. Fifth Year Festival: NYC 02-16-07 New York, NY
134. Fifth Year Festival: Philly 02-17-07 Philadelphia, PA
135. Fifth Year Festival: Dayton 02-23-07 Dayton, OH
136. Fifth Year Festival: Chicago 02-24-07 Chicago, IL
137. Fifth Year Festival: Liverpool 03-03-07 Liverpool, UK
138. Fifth Year Festival: Finale 03-04-07 Liverpool, UK

[Kif]

I'm watching Danielson/Shelley at the moment. Great match, the crowd sucked though. Then again, it was at the ECW Arena.

[Lost Glories]

I'm getting Glory By Honor V Nights 1 and 2, Death Before Dishonor IV and Black Friday Fallout I think.

black friday was terrible.

i recommend joe vs. kobashi or unforgettable.

100th show.

death before dishonor 3

[EvilButters]

matt hardy was nothing without jeff.

Matt Hardy was nothing without Jeff in the WWE. WWE is horrible about holding him back. I think he could do quite well in singles competition if he wasn't held back so much. His indy matches in ROH were quite good and I would've liked to have seen him do more.

[Kif]

I didn't see it, the card looked alright though.

I've got the Joe/Kobashi match already, so is the rest of the card worth it?

[Lost Glories]

review of black friday fall out
http://www.rohwrestling.com/messageboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32137

review of alot of the recent releases.
http://rohwrestling.com/MessageBoard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=33267

the second page should help you alot

[EvilButters]

I'm always considering buying more ROH DVDs or more indy wrestling DVDs, in general. So any recommendations or reviews would be awesome.

EDIT: I wanted to come back and edit this because my comments made it seem like I hadn't read the previous posts...but I have. I(and I'm sure many others) appreciate all the recommendations that have been already mentioned, but if anyone has any other ones...please feel free to share them.

[Signals Corrupted]

I'm always considering buying more ROH DVDs or more indy wrestling DVDs, in general. So any recommendations or reviews would be awesome.

I would suggest PWG's Battle of Los Angeles 2006

http://www.prowrestlingguerrilla.com/merch/058.html

Stand-out matches:
CIMA vs. El Generico(very very very underrated wrestler)
Super Dragon vs. Necro Butcher
Roderick Strong vs. Rocky Romero
Roderick Strong vs. Davey Richards
Jack Evans vs. Genki Horiguchi
Davey Richards vs. Austin Aries
Jack Evans vs. Claudio Castagnoli
Genki Horiguchi vs. Chris Hero

Seriously, great set of shows.

[Signals Corrupted]

PWG's All Star Weekend IV Night 2 (http://www.highspots.com/product.asp?id=15924&category=0)


El Generico vs. PAC is the best match I've ever seen in person, and in terms of highspots and high-flying action, I'll put that match up against ANYTHING. Phenomenal match, absolutely incredible, and worth the price all by itself. If you can find a place to download that match, grab it, but otherwise, I recommend this DVD

[EnderDove]

shelton has no charisma.
hes a great athlete no doubt. but nowadays you cant get by on just athleticism. you need great mic skills. etc.

matt hardy was nothing without jeff.

i can slap a tornado.

Concerning Shelton, his lack of Charisma is why Team Angle worked so well. Angle did all the talking for them and they put on outstanding matches with anyone they faced. I would love to see them agianst Kendrick and London, most likely the only current WWE match I would pay to watch.

[EvilButters]

Concerning Shelton, his lack of Charisma is why Team Angle worked so well. Angle did all the talking for them and they put on outstanding matches with anyone they faced. I would love to see them agianst Kendrick and London, most likely the only current WWE match I would pay to watch.

That would be a great match...or at least has the potential to be.

Also, Signals Corrupted, thanks for the recommendations. I may end up getting one or both of those sometime soon.

[mattregan]

I heard Bastion Booger turned face and joined the nWo... wow.

[Signals Corrupted]

I heard Bastion Booger turned face and joined the nWo... wow.

I think by turned face you mean heel, and by NWO you mean the Cartel faction in Global Wrestling.. in like 1990. haha

[Lost Glories]

I heard Bastion Booger turned face and joined the nWo... wow.

although im happy you know your wrestlers.

is it necessary to be a lame ass?

[EnderDove]

After watching this, I want some NOAH dvd's or at least matches to download.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPlDOUn8s9Q

[nfggc10]

Matt Hardy was nothing without Jeff in the WWE. WWE is horrible about holding him back. I think he could do quite well in singles competition if he wasn't held back so much. His indy matches in ROH were quite good and I would've liked to have seen him do more.WWE holds him back so much because he doesn't have an microphone skills and without that you can't be a top singles star. They were dumb to split them up to begin with just like they were with every other great tag team they had. The only one that was smart was Edge and Christain because they both could speak really well. Christain actually got screwed because he was so good on the mic that he really could've had a good title run.

[EvilButters]

WWE holds him back so much because he doesn't have an microphone skills and without that you can't be a top singles star. They were dumb to split them up to begin with just like they were with every other great tag team they had. The only one that was smart was Edge and Christain because they both could speak really well. Christain actually got screwed because he was so good on the mic that he really could've had a good title run.

Yeah, that's true. The only problem is a lot of the time WWE throws a superstar into the title picture who has great mic skills, but doesn't have very good in-ring skills. Kennedy and The Rock are pretty good examples. Both are entertaining, but when it comes to wrestling...they're not the greatest. I'd rather have them hold someone back a bit longer than to throw someone into the title picture too soon.

[Signals Corrupted]

After watching this, I want some NOAH dvd's or at least matches to download.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPlDOUn8s9Q

Thats insane. Some of that I'd never ever seen before - like the hurracarana where both the briscoe and the jap spring-boarded off the ropes into each other. I'm so stoked to see the Briscoes in a Tag Tourney next month. They are so solid.

[EnderDove]

Thats insane. Some of that I'd never ever seen before - like the hurracarana where both the briscoe and the jap spring-boarded off the ropes into each other. I'm so stoked to see the Briscoes in a Tag Tourney next month. They are so solid.

I've been watching even more NOAH videos after I watched that one. For some reason years ago when I was hardcore into wrestling I never watched any Japan matches except for Beniot's in New Japan, which were great, especially against Jushin Liger. This makes me want to see even more Japanese matches, those fucking Japanese do everything so well.

[Signals Corrupted]

Sabin & Shelley
Briscoe Brothers
Kings of Wrestling (Hero/Castagnoli)
Havana Pitbulls (ROmero/Reyes)
Jack Evans & Roderick Strong
Davey Richard & Super Dragon
Arrogance (Bosh/Lost
Naruki Doi & Masato Yoshino

Is that a tight fucking tournament or what?

[Signals Corrupted]

Sabin & Shelley
Briscoe Brothers
Kings of Wrestling (Hero/Castagnoli)
Havana Pitbulls (ROmero/Reyes)
Jack Evans & Roderick Strong
Davey Richard & Super Dragon
Arrogance (Bosh/Lost
Naruki Doi & Masato Yoshino

Is that a tight fucking tournament or what?

Oh yeah, and on that same card, Bryan Danielson vs. CIMA

Your jaw = dropped. :jawdrop:

[EnderDove]

Oh yeah, and on that same card, Bryan Danielson vs. CIMA

Your jaw = dropped. :jawdrop:

Son of a bitch.

[chokeychicken]

last night 9 guys and i got together and busted out no mercy for n64. we played for almost 5 hours and had a blast creating PPV's and stuff.

highlight of the night was an i quit match between chris benoit and dean malenko that lasted 48 minutes.

[EnderDove]

last night 9 guys and i got together and busted out no mercy for n64. we played for almost 5 hours and had a blast creating PPV's and stuff.

highlight of the night was an i quit match between chris benoit and dean malenko that lasted 48 minutes.

Greatest wrestling game ever, my friend and I often have 30, normal single matches. So intense.

Malenko is not only one of my favorite wrestlers ever, he is also one of my favorite on that game. There's a mod for the emulator, project 64 in which it's the No Mercy engine but all TNA, ROH and NOAH. I couldn't get it to work on my old PC though and it wont work on my mac now damnit. The original is still fun as hell though.

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Greatest wrestling game ever, my friend and I often have 30, normal single matches. So intense.

Malenko is not only one of my favorite wrestlers ever, he is also one of my favorite on that game. There's a mod for the emulator, project 64 in which it's the No Mercy engine but all TNA, ROH and NOAH. I couldn't get it to work on my old PC though and it wont work on my mac now damnit. The original is still fun as hell though.

Roderick Strong reminds me SO MUCH of Malenko. He's so damn good.

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Roderick Strong reminds me SO MUCH of Malenko. He's so damn good.

Sadly I've never got to see a full match of his, hook a brother up with a link?

As for Malenko, he was perfect not to mention he would work on any body part and wouldn't repeat a move in a twenty minute match. His first match in WCW with Mysterio was incredible, worked on the arm the whole match, at one point put Rey's arm over the guardrail, then pulled it back through one of the slots, backed up and kicked the guardrail. Stuff like that is what was so great about him, always something new.

But I will have to search for some Strong videos tomorrow, anyone modern day who is close to Malenko makes me excited.

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Watching Aries vs. Strong in TNA right now....

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Watching Aries vs. Strong in TNA right now....

Nooo stop, that doesn't count. I'll find Strong & Aries vs. Richards & KENTA. It's as good a tag match as I saw all of last year

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http://www.rohwrestling.com/shoponline.asp?point=moreinfo&catid=161&id=2127

I highly recommend this for:
7. Bryan Danielson vs. Delirious (ROH World Title Match)
8. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong vs. KENTA & Davey Richards (this match was my 2nd fav of 2006)

Here is a vid of Roderick vs. KENTA
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5322604589462261772 &q=roderick+strong&pr=goog-sl

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Nooo stop, that doesn't count. I'll find Strong & Aries vs. Richards & KENTA. It's as good a tag match as I saw all of last year

It was an alright match for what it was, Strong did look great in it and not far into the match he reminded me of Malenko right away by doing the cartwheel while in the armlock. I do love how he uses all the back breakers to set up for other moves though, like in that match the Boston crab.

Find that match for me, as for now though, back to Low Ki vs. KENTA.

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http://www.rohwrestling.com/shoponline.asp?point=moreinfo&catid=161&id=2127

I highly recommend this for:
7. Bryan Danielson vs. Delirious (ROH World Title Match)
8. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong vs. KENTA & Davey Richards (this match was my 2nd fav of 2006)

Here is a vid of Roderick vs. KENTA
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5322604589462261772 &q=roderick+strong&pr=goog-sl

I just may get that, the only ROH dvds that I have are all three from 2002. Some good matches on there, but not the same quality they're putting on now. Plus I've been wanting to get some of their newer ones, I just have no idea which ones. That could be one though.

I will watch that KENTA vs. Strong video tomorrow, I look forward to it.

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I don't think that tag match is up anywhere. Damn it. That Roddy vs. KENTA match is pretty good though - you can check that out next.

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I don't think that tag match is up anywhere. Damn it. That Roddy vs. KENTA match is pretty good though - you can check that out next.

Oh I plan on it. KENTA is quickly becoming one of my favorites. Don't worry about the tag match, I may just get that DVD pretty soon.

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I can't find either of those matches online, and now I really want to see them. Delirious is badass heh.

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That KENTA vs. Strong match was nice indeed and it's official, KENTA is one of my new favorite wrestlers.