Iha Doesn't Want To Reunite

[Paul Tao]

James Iha will not be rejoining (http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2007/04/06/former_smashing_pumpkin_james_iha_r ules) The Smashing Pumpkins (http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/).

[LPMagic]

Missed some code in there. How bold of you.

:-)

- Jeff

[tommyhaych]

What a pile of crap. Mind you, Jimmy Chaimberlin is a fantastic drummer so at least theres still something.

[Paul Tao]

Missed some code in there. How bold of you.

:-)

- Jeff
:tao:

[The Revisionist]

Eh, not too much of a surprise.

[Smash Adams]

chamberlain already said that corgan is playing guitar so I'm not surprised, now the question is auf der mar, eric avery, or someone else on bass

[Dan CiTi]

Idiot.

[bankrom]

this is looking like more of a zwan "reunion" by the day

[The Revisionist]

chamberlain already said that corgan is playing guitar so I'm not surprisedDidn't both Corgan and Iha play guitar though?

[abusedcat]

If you guys remember, Billy did play every guitar & bass track on Siamese Dream

[Rich Duncan]

Im a little less interested in this reunion now

[12:46AM]

If you guys remember, Billy did play every guitar & bass track on Siamese Dreamexactly.

[PJ1336]

frankly i don't give a fuck what the incarnation is.

i've loved this band since i was twelve, and am now tenty-one, and i never got to see them.

so yeah, as long as i get to see Billy Corgan rock out a few Smashing Pumpkins tunes, i'm all set.

[Smash Adams]

Didn't both Corgan and Iha play guitar though?

yeah, but the way he worded it made it seem like only corgan was playing, I can't find the myspace bulletin now

[shes.a.ghost]

I saw James playing with The Sounds on that Bam Margera show the other day... weird.

[The Revisionist]

It's all good. I do wonder what will be going on with the bass... I don't really care who is playing it since I am fairly indifferent to the reunion as a whole, but if it's just Corgan and Chamberlain it's less of a "reunion" and more of a "vanity project".

[indermamusicdot]

If you guys remember, Billy did play every guitar & bass track on Siamese Dream

really? i did not know that, but that is interesting

i guess if Billy considers the pumpkins his band then he can do whatever he wants, and undoubtedly will despite what we or anyone else has to say about it

i respect Iha's decision tho, im guessing he see's it sort of as "been there, done that".. why rehash the past, he did some fine work with APC, and who knows if they'll make another album..

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[The Revisionist]

I mean, if Iha hasn't talked to Corgan in years and they've talked some shit about each other and haven't appeared to mend anything, why bother participating in it? Makes sense to me.

[Tostitos]

fucking joy kill

[thisismyname]

Shame, but not surprising, and completely understandable.

[Havokownsmyhart]

*cries* I wish I were 11 again.

[AFSjulian]

I would love to see the original line-up, but I don't really care that I can't ... I just want to hear these songs live.

[tenminutes]

well this is no surprise considering corgan and chamberlain were the only original members to record zeitgeist. it would be odd for other members to not be a part of the album and then just jump on the tour.

[ThisIsNotDan]

really, it doesn't matter. corgan wrote most of the songs (iha only wrote 10-15. only 8 in their major discography (the real albums)), and like someone else said, billy played all the guitar and bass parts in Siamese Dream, so it is a Pumpkins reunion.

also, this isn't a zwan reunion because then they would need another two spots to fill on guitar and also they played a more positive type of music.

[Bury Your Head]

Fuck him corgan.

[PDon11]

Without James Iha and D'arcy it's not Smashing Pumpkins, its just a new Billy Corgan band.

[truthbetoldxx]

My older brother introduced me to the pumpkins when I was 9, and I've loved them ever since. I'm basically just psyched for the album, with, or without Iha.

[whiteboypain]

fucking joy kill

Kill Joy*

[whiteboypain]

Well i am a fan of James, but this could still be cool. I didn't like the Billy Corgan solo album, but this could be decent. I still look forward to this considering i'm a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan and also a huge fan of Billy Corgan.

[Adrian Villagomez]

Billy played everything, so bleh.

[Tom Good]

I saw James playing with The Sounds on that Bam Margera show the other day... weird.yeah I saw that, really bizarre. I guess he would rather play weddings

[tonighttonight0]

ehh...not surprising...

i wasn't expecting him to join them...

[Smash Adams]

Well i am a fan of James, but this could still be cool. I didn't like the Billy Corgan solo album, but this could be decent. I still look forward to this considering i'm a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan and also a huge fan of Billy Corgan.

the bee gees cover with robert smith on that album was pretty good

[Scott Irvine]

Without James Iha and D'arcy it's not Smashing Pumpkins, its just a new Billy Corgan band.

Agreed. Except its a new Corgan band that covers SP material.

[captainamazing4]

figures he wouldnt. but boooo anyways :]

[zerock]

well smashing pumpkins in esence is a billy corgan band, the new members look emo actually....
the bassist is called Ginger, i forget where she is from..

[grimis16]

that sucks

[thewk]

Meh. It's just not the same.

[TyroneShoolaces]

Corgan and Chamberlain ARE the smashing pumpkins, everybody else is replaceable.

[biodegradable]

meh. woulda been nice for a full reunion, but it wont kill me.

[MelodyManCan]

sounds like he wants more input in the band, but realized hes dealing with billy corgan here

[MightCatchFire]

disappointing but not at all surprising.

[freshfella33]

I saw James playing with The Sounds on that Bam Margera show the other day... weird.


Yeah I caught that too, is that a regular thing or was it jsut a fuke?

[bagdad]

i respect Iha's decision tho, im guessing he see's it sort of as "been there, done that".. why rehash the past, he did some fine work with APC, and who knows if they'll make another album..


...actually james was only on one recorded guitar part for one song...and that was on the covers album...he did not appear on 13th step, he just toured with them..

[WarpSpeedChewy]

I think or at lease I hope that after some time has passed by, the rest of the remaining members of SP will return.

[brandnizzle2419]

meh, theyll deal without him. Billy is convinced that SP was really only him and jimmy anyways, and i tend to agree. and besides, i lost all respect for james when he joined APC. bad move.

[TheJon]

Corgan and Chamberlain ARE the smashing pumpkins, everybody else is replaceable.

Seconded.

[Trainsaw]

lame

[Bury Your Head]

figures he wouldnt. but boooo anyways :]

Boo

Why do you always say boo?

[Vismund_Cygnus]

uh oh...

[Adrian Villagomez]

Boo

Why do you always say boo?He's trying to scare you.

[zerock]

i respect Iha's decision tho, im guessing he see's it sort of as "been there, done that".. why rehash the past, he did some fine work with APC, and who knows if they'll make another album..


...actually james was only on one recorded guitar part for one song...and that was on the covers album...he did not appear on 13th step, he just toured with them..

im not sure, but i think APC are done..

[Bury Your Head]

figures he wouldnt. but boooo anyways :]

Boo

Why do you always say boo?

[Gleebo]

this is looking like more of a zwan "reunion" by the day

I may be one of the 4 people in the world that loved Zwan. Granted not as much as the Pumpkins but I still thought it was good stuff. Better than his solo album for sure.

[siamesedream]

1) As many people have said, Billy Corgan played all the guitar and bass tracks on Siamese Dream and supposedly Gish as well

2) Billy Corgan wrote or co-wrote nearly every pumpkins song

3) any pumpkins fan knows that Billy Corgan TAUGHT James Iha to play guitar, so anything Iha plays is basically just mirroring Corgans's playing

4) Darcy is just a familiar face in the grand scheme of a reunion, all her bass parts could be played by any run of the mill bass player. She contributed NOTHING to the band's music except for some vocals on a couple songs.


plain and simple, the main elements of Smashing Pumpkins' sound are Corgan's songwriting and guitar tones and Jimmy Chamberlin's unique one of a kind drumming style. James and Darcy were never a big role in the band. It was always Corgan's baby and he needed a 2nd guitarist and bassist mainly for touring. Listen to the Adore album. It's so unlike the pumpkins because there was no Chamberlin due to his drug problems at the time. Hell, Zwan is much closer to Smashing Pumpkins than anything on Adore. Chamberlin is the only irreplaceable one. Anyone else would be playing the parts that Corgan writes EXACTLY the same as James and Darcy would. That's just a fact.

[lmelanie]

I loved Zwan...but this is not the Smashing Pumpkins as far as im concerned..they should have just buried the hatchet and moved on...

[bankrom]

I may be one of the 4 people in the world that loved Zwan. Granted not as much as the Pumpkins but I still thought it was good stuff. Better than his solo album for sure.

no, that zwan album was solid...as long as corgan is playing sp songs, i don't care who is in the band with him.

[captainamazing4]

Boo

Why do you always say boo?

dunno really. but thanks for pointing out the obvious! hahaha im just messin :]

and btw, boooooo isn't scary!

[Gleebo]

no, that zwan album was solid...as long as corgan is playing sp songs, i don't care who is in the band with him.

Ill buy that. Most stuff Billy Corgan does is still better than 90% of the stuff passing for alternative/modern rock these days.

If you find someone who would rather listen to Hinder than new Smashing Pumpkins/Zwan/Billy Corgan solo please do the music world a favor and punch them in the genitals.

[Robb]

4) Darcy is just a familiar face in the grand scheme of a reunion, all her bass parts could be played by any run of the mill bass player. She contributed NOTHING to the band's music except for some vocals on a couple songs.

She also contributed her nipples to the Adore liner. That's got to count for something.

Saying SP won't be good without James and D'arcy is like saying Ben Folds wouldn't be good without Robert Sledge and Darren Jesse.