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566 verbal and 640 math
Is this a good SAT score? Would it get you into an Ivy League school?
I really know little to nothing about the American system.
papathomas
08/07/03, 06:48 PM
I don't know either, I am only in high school. Why did you score that?
Btw, is this really political?
Originally posted by papathomas
I don't know either, I am only in high school. Why did you score that?
Btw, is this really political?
Don't you write the SAT's in your senior year?
I'd rather post it here, where I know most of the posters are intelligent and probably heading to university. If I posted it in the general forum, I'd get respones like
"school sux"
"i did bad on my SATs and now girls don't like me"
"what happened to taking back sunday anyways?"
Ivy league... no, most likely not. You would need much higher than a 1200.
A good school? Yea probably. Most Universities would except it and probably ANY state school. There are other variables there as well though/
Originally posted by chubb9
Ivy league... no, most likely not. You would need much higher than a 1200.
A good school? Yea probably. Most Universities would except it and probably ANY state school. There are other variables there as well though/
Well those were Bush's SAT scores.
yeat182
08/07/03, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by Ronin
For the Americans
566 verbal and 640 math
Is this a good SAT score? Would it get you into an Ivy League school?
I really know little to nothing about the American system.
yeah, 1200 is a very good score
anything over 1000 is good, 1300+ is excellent, 1600 perfect.
yeat182
08/07/03, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by chubb9
Ivy league... no, most likely not. You would need much higher than a 1200.
A good school? Yea probably. Most Universities would except it and probably ANY state school. There are other variables there as well though/
you could certainly get into an ivy league school with 1200, you wouldn't get in soley on your score, but it definetly wouldn't keep you out of the school...
BrandNewRock05
08/07/03, 07:55 PM
SAT's are over rated, you can be a complete fuck up in school and get a 1600 on your SAT's...or 4.0 all of high school and then shell out a 900...its not accurate nor the sole reason people get into schools... and what did Bush get by the way... 1206? Thats not too shabby....not superb, but not bad either...again not a good way to test....
I got a 1300 on them and i'm having trouble getting in to a University. I have a 3.6 gpa too. But like i said, their are MANY other variables.
And Ronin, your talking about 35 years ago. Things change. In 1996 the scores were artificially inflated.
"A Verbal 566 puts Bush at about the 95th percentile of juniors & seniors ..., while 640 on Math puts him at about the 98th percentile." - Charles Murray
In other words, only one out of 20 people would out perform him on the verbal part of the test, and only one out of 50 on the numeric portion.
Reagan and Kennedy both had lower IQs than him.
Good try though, smart ass.
BrandNewRock05
08/07/03, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by chubb9
I got a 1300 on them and i'm having trouble getting in to a University. I have a 3.6 gpa too. But like i said, their are MANY other variables.
And Ronin, your talking about 35 years ago. Things change. In 1996 the scores were artificially inflated.
"A Verbal 566 puts Bush at about the 95th percentile of juniors & seniors ..., while 640 on Math puts him at about the 98th percentile." - Charles Murray
In other words, only one out of 20 people would out perform him on the verbal part of the test, and only one out of 50 on the numeric portion.
Reagan and Kennedy both had lower IQs than him.
Good try though, smart ass.
I think I am slipping into the Kelso voice.....BURRRNNN!
steverocks33
08/07/03, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by chubb9
I got a 1300 on them and i'm having trouble getting in to a University. I have a 3.6 gpa too. But like i said, their are MANY other variables. .
damn. looks like im fucked.
Not really... college is college, doesn't really matter where you go. And if anything, you could always go to a JC for two years and transfer where ever.
BrandNewDream
08/07/03, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by chubb9
"A Verbal 566 puts Bush at about the 95th percentile of juniors & seniors ..., while 640 on Math puts him at about the 98th percentile." - Charles Murray
Maybe during his time, but that wouldn't hold true today. I got a 670 math and 640 verbal...i was in the 90th percentile with both scores.
yeat182
08/07/03, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by BrandNewDream
Maybe during his time, but that wouldn't hold true today. I got a 670 math and 640 verbal...i was in the 90th percentile with both scores.
it changes with every group that takes the test...you were in the 90th percentile based on the people that took that test at that time....it would be different for the next group, you might be 95 or you might be 85 if you took the test a different day, based on the scores of the other people taking the test that day.
BrandNewDream
08/07/03, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by yeat182
it changes with every group that takes the test...you were in the 90th percentile based on the people that took that test at that time....it would be different for the next group, you might be 95 or you might be 85 if you took the test a different day, based on the scores of the other people taking the test that day.
I see...good to know.
The Nephilm
08/07/03, 10:25 PM
i applied to every ivy league and got into 3 with a 1390 SAT and a 4.4 weighted GPA (3.85 unweighted) but it was mainly because I got recruited to play soccer for them.
The generel census is to get into an Ivy school yer gonna need at least a 1400 and a 3.7 or better plus extra carricular activities out of your ass
Originally posted by chubb9
I got a 1300 on them and i'm having trouble getting in to a University. I have a 3.6 gpa too. But like i said, their are MANY other variables.
And Ronin, your talking about 35 years ago. Things change. In 1996 the scores were artificially inflated.
"A Verbal 566 puts Bush at about the 95th percentile of juniors & seniors ..., while 640 on Math puts him at about the 98th percentile." - Charles Murray
In other words, only one out of 20 people would out perform him on the verbal part of the test, and only one out of 50 on the numeric portion.
Reagan and Kennedy both had lower IQs than him.
Good try though, smart ass.
Dude, you are a blight on these forums. I'm Canadian and honestly I know little to nothing about SAT scores. I was just pointing this out and leaving it open to discussion. I'm not being adversarial here, just throwing out a fact and seeing what everyone has to say. You're like a goddamn pitbull, which is kind of pathetic seeing as how this is a politics forum on a punk website. Save the condescending attitude for something a little more important.
And considering the fact that I'm in university, several years older (and from your grades, a fair bt smarter), try not to talk down to me.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/20/timep.affirm.action.tm/
A little too much rhetoric for my liking, but not a bad point. This article is also a little old.
Ronin I saw exactly what you were getting at. Don't try to play it off like "I was just trying to make a discussion, don't get all pissy" because you weren't. You were trying to make Bush look like a dipshit by taking his 35 year old SAT scores and compairing them to today. You were not trying to start a discussion, you were trying to be a smart ass and it back fired. Play it off how you will, but you were proven wrong and you looked like a douche bag in the process.
just throwing out a fact and seeing what everyone has to say
Yea, you through at a fact and I through out more that suported why you point was inane.
And considering the fact that I'm in university, several years older (and from your grades, a fair bt smarter), try not to talk down to me.
Oh, sorry old Great One. I should of known better. Next time i'll try to show more respect when proving someone wrong. Give me a break. Some of the smartest people I know are also the biggest dipshits i know. So who cares.
Originally posted by chubb9
Ronin I saw exactly what you were getting at. Don't try to play it off like "I was just trying to make a discussion, don't get all pissy" because you weren't. You were trying to make Bush look like a dipshit by taking his 35 year old SAT scores and compairing them to today. You were not trying to start a discussion, you were trying to be a smart ass and it back fired. Play it off how you will, but you were proven wrong and you looked like a douche bag in the process.
Since some people question Bush's intelligence (me included on occaision), I was curious to see if I could find some academic record. I found his SAT scores, so I thought I'd see what everyone thought. I had no prior intentions here, just to stimulate discussion, and like I said, I don't know jack about the SATs. Not everyone is out to prove a point, or simply let out their adolescent rage. How exactly did you prove me wrong? I didn't assert a single fucking thing kid.
Yes, I don't really like Bush, and it would have been nice to show that his SAT scores were poor, but that's not the case, and I'm fine with that. Like other people noted, apparently the SATs are a poor indicator of your ability. You mentioned Bush's IQ, where did you find that on record? IQ tests are usually pretty lacking in validity themselves, but I'd like to see what they administered and how he scored.
Yea, you through at a fact and I through out more that suported why you point was inane.
I think you mean "threw"
And you brought up some information that showed that Bush's scores were actually quite good, and I'm enlightened because of that. However, you weren't the only person who brought it up.
Also, my QUESTION wasn't inane. I was inquiring, and it was a legitimate question to pose. Inane would mean that my question was pointless, and it wasn't. Grab a dictionary.
Oh, sorry old Great One. I should of known better. Next time i'll try to show more respect when proving someone wrong. Give me a break. Some of the smartest people I know are also the biggest dipshits i know. So who cares.
I'm not trying to pass myself off as a great anything, I'm just saying that you shouldn't try to talk down to everyone on this board, because it just makes you look like an arrogant dipshit. I wasn't trying to be a "smart ass", I'm a little more mature than that. Ask anyone here, and (I think) they'll tell you that I'm pretty level-headed, and I don't just shoot my mouth off. I'm not some punk ass kid with verbal diahrrhea, I think before I speak.
BrandNewDream
08/08/03, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Ronin
Ask anyone here, and (I think) they'll tell you that I'm pretty level-headed, and I don't just shoot my mouth off. I'm not some punk ass kid with verbal diahrrhea, I think before I speak.
you speak the truth.
Originally posted by BrandNewDream
you speak the truth.
:: thumps chest::
word
completely unrelated side note, but if i dont ace my fucking MCAT, i'm going to burn down every medical school in north america. i shouldn't be inside tonight
kineticsurfer
08/08/03, 09:11 PM
i think i got like just below a 1200 as a rising freshman..... how's that, when are my scores most likely to go up????
BuriedAlive
08/08/03, 09:40 PM
Well those were Bush's SAT scores.
the family of bush's got into yale because they made "contributions" to the school.
BuriedAlive
08/08/03, 09:42 PM
but since we are on the topic of grades does anyone know anything about your IQ? i got a 117 on an IQ test. i am only 14. is that a good score?
yeat182
08/08/03, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by BuriedAlive
the family of bush's got into yale because they made "contributions" to the school.
just like 90% of people that get into yale
yeat182
08/08/03, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by BuriedAlive
but since we are on the topic of grades does anyone know anything about your IQ? i got a 117 on an IQ test. i am only 14. is that a good score?
117 is good, and your age does play a factor in your score...
BrandNewDream
08/08/03, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by yeat182
117 is good, and your age does play a factor in your score...
I dislike the fact that the test you take determines your score...i've scored as high on 165 on some and as low as 130 on others.
Originally posted by BrandNewDream
I dislike the fact that the test you take determines your score...i've scored as high on 165 on some and as low as 130 on others.
Well 100 is average, and the standard deviation is 10. I think MENSA requires around 140? I'm not of that
But IQ tests aren't a great measure of intelligence.
Matthew
08/09/03, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
SAT's are over rated, you can be a complete fuck up in school and get a 1600 on your SAT's...or 4.0 all of high school and then shell out a 900...its not accurate nor the sole reason people get into schools... and what did Bush get by the way... 1206? Thats not too shabby....not superb, but not bad either...again not a good way to test....
1206 isnt bad. but its really bad when you realzie he went to Yale with that shit. I have a 1370 as a junior, and i know I'm not getting into Yale.
Matthew
08/09/03, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by cal1082
I obviously if your family gives alot of money to the college or if one of your parents is an allumni you'll get special preference.
And your okay with that? Elitist bastard.
Matthew
08/09/03, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by cal1082
where did i say i was okay with that? I just said it's obvious it's going to happen. Good job jumping to conclusion's though.
Thats my specialty. Plus i jsut liek the phrase "elitist bastard". Nice ring to it.
Since some people question Bush's intelligence (me included on occaision), I was curious to see if I could find some academic record. I found his SAT scores, so I thought I'd see what everyone thought.
"Hey guys, is a 1206 good on the SATs"
"Yea its ok"
"Well thats whats Bush got"
If you weren't trying to make a point and you were just simply presenting an arguement you would of said something like "Bush got a 1206 on the SATs, is that good?"
Thats why it looks like you were trying be a smart ass about it. I'm not going to sit here and have an arguement on what your real intensions were because i don't know what they were. I read your posts and thats what it looked like you were trying to do. Case closed.
You mentioned Bush's IQ, where did you find that on record?
Based on his SAT score his IQ would roughly be projected in the 125-130 range. Its not exact or perfect, but it most likely be around there.
I wasn't trying to be a "smart ass"
Maybe i jumped the gun, but thats just what I saw. Sorry if i miss judged it.
BrandNewDream
08/09/03, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Matthew
I have a 1370 as a junior, and i know I'm not getting into Yale.
You sure about that? How are your grades, schedule difficulty and extra cirriculars? A 1370 isn't exactly a low score.
The Nephilm
08/09/03, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by BrandNewDream
You sure about that? How are your grades, schedule difficulty and extra cirriculars? A 1370 isn't exactly a low score.
he won't get in with that...
unless he has like 2000 hours of community service, a solid 4.0 with like 10 AP classes, and a bunch of other extra shit
ivy leagues reserve their spots for the extremely wealthy, atheletes who can get high enough grades, and those few individuals who manage those insanely high SAT and GPA's
Originally posted by Ronin
For the Americans
566 verbal and 640 math
Is this a good SAT score? Would it get you into an Ivy League school?
I really know little to nothing about the American system.
uhh i scored higher in7th grade?
yeat182
08/10/03, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by sigh
uhh i scored higher in7th grade?
you also weren't taking the SAT's in 7th grade...PSAT's maybe, but probably the 7th grade equivilant...
Matthew
08/10/03, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by BrandNewDream
You sure about that? How are your grades, schedule difficulty and extra cirriculars? A 1370 isn't exactly a low score.
umm.... what Neph said. my extra-curriculars are pretty good. i've competed at reigonals at debate for two years now (i'm going into my junior year) , my grades are all A's with two mid-B's (both are math classes. i suck at math) and im taking a decent course-load. but im not going to yale.
Originally posted by yeat182
you also weren't taking the SAT's in 7th grade...PSAT's maybe, but probably the 7th grade equivilant...
no no no it was. It was for the John Hopkins program. You had to take the SAT to go to the summer camp
the_champ_is_here
08/10/03, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by sigh
no no no it was. It was for the John Hopkins program. You had to take the SAT to go to the summer camp
I remeber those. I hated that. I did it in 4th grade, took the test in 7th but refused to go to the camp.
Originally posted by chubb9
Based on his SAT score his IQ would roughly be projected in the 125-130 range. Its not exact or perfect, but it most likely be around there.
You can't really extrapolate the scores from one imperfect test to another.
Although really, there's no test that can be given that doesn't have its drawbacks, so nobody will ever be entirely satisfied I guess.
kineticsurfer
08/10/03, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by yeat182
you also weren't taking the SAT's in 7th grade...PSAT's maybe, but probably the 7th grade equivilant...
yeah i took the sat's in 7th grade too i got like a 1090 i think.... it was for this duke tip scholar thingy...
yeat182
08/10/03, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by Balderdash
I remeber those. I hated that. I did it in 4th grade, took the test in 7th but refused to go to the camp.
they made you guys go to summer camp? and they made you take a test to get in? thats fucked up...
BrandNewDream
08/10/03, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
he won't get in with that...
unless he has like 2000 hours of community service, a solid 4.0 with like 10 AP classes, and a bunch of other extra shit
ivy leagues reserve their spots for the extremely wealthy, atheletes who can get high enough grades, and those few individuals who manage those insanely high SAT and GPA's
Maybe not Yale, but a "lower" Ivy, such as Brown or UPenn, I'd say a good shot.
Originally posted by BrandNewDream
Maybe not Yale, but a "lower" Ivy, such as Brown or UPenn, I'd say a good shot.
what?? I wouldnt say so
yeat182
08/11/03, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by BrandNewDream
Maybe not Yale, but a "lower" Ivy, such as Brown or UPenn, I'd say a good shot.
yeah you could, i know kids who got in with almost no communitiy service and a few extra-curriculars....and they weren't rich either.
BrandNewDream
08/11/03, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by sigh
what?? I wouldnt say so
trust me...I looked into every one...If I had gotten a 1350, as I had wanted, I was going to apply to UPenn with only a 3.4 GPA and an advanced class schedule (I took more than the requirement in every subject), but still nowhere near as challenging as it could've been (I wasn't in all Honors courses, I took only 3 AP classes).
Originally posted by BrandNewDream
trust me...I looked into every one...If I had gotten a 1350, as I had wanted, I was going to apply to UPenn with only a 3.4 GPA and an advanced class schedule (I took more than the requirement in every subject), but still nowhere near as challenging as it could've been (I wasn't in all Honors courses, I took only 3 AP classes).
were u applying to Wharton School?
Anyways If thats true... WoW thats great news.
Matthew
08/11/03, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by sigh
no no no it was. It was for the John Hopkins program. You had to take the SAT to go to the summer camp
i did one of thsoe for a duke program. i ahd an 1100 in 7th. you had over a 1200? wow. props.
Originally posted by Matthew
i did one of thsoe for a duke program. i ahd an 1100 in 7th. you had over a 1200? wow. props.
thanks:D But i think a girl at my school got 1300 or something like that. (mutters to self: It was a fluke sean.. you did better... yes.. you had to someone beating you? *twitch* *twitch*);)
Charlito Cafe
08/12/03, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by BrandNewDream
I dislike the fact that the test you take determines your score...i've scored as high on 165 on some and as low as 130 on others.
Ya, it flucuates so much. One said I had a 178, and another said I had a 155. How are you supposed to know which test is more credible?
yeat182
08/12/03, 11:27 AM
178 is like incredible....like einstein type shit, or stephen hawking....i'm not saying that you aren't intellegent or have a very high IQ but do you think you're on the same level as them? 155 is in the genius range, and that would probably be more accurate than 178...but then again, maybe you really are that smart, i have no idea.
Originally posted by Charlito Cafe
Ya, it flucuates so much. One said I had a 178, and another said I had a 155. How are you supposed to know which test is more credible?
None are really credible, but if you're scoring that high consistently, I wouldn't worry
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