OSU's Oden, Conley and Cook to enter draft

[LeftWideOpen]

The Dayton Daily News reports Ohio State C Greg Oden, G Mike Conley, and G/F Daequan Cook are expected to enter the NBA Draft.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/content/oh/story/sports/college/osu/2007/04/12/ddn041207osubb.html

[LeftWideOpen]

looks like Cook is the only one w/ a slight chance of coming back. Oden and Conley are gone. All 3 families are going to meet on Sunday to collectively discuss the situation.

[iihungrieii]

makes sense. its too difficult to pass up the money

[+thecalisonme]

cook is going hahaha

[mat1419]

Lawson, Ellington, and Hansborough are all back for UNC...how can they not win this year?

[LeftWideOpen]

Lawson, Ellington, and Hansborough are all back for UNC...how can they not win this year?

they are my pick, but UCLA is going to have a hell of a team (even without Afflalo). Also, Memphis and Kansas.

[+thecalisonme]

they are my pick, but UCLA is going to have a hell of a team (even without Afflalo). Also, Memphis and Kansas.
ucla eh, kansas may be sans rush and wright, memphis most certainly

[Drew Beringer]

hahahahaa fuck.

[LeftWideOpen]

ucla eh, kansas may be sans rush and wright, memphis most certainly

Josh Shipp, Nick Collison, Kevin Love, Mbah a Moute, Lorenzo Matta ... thats a team. They won't run the court w/ UNC or Memphis but they'll play the best defense in the country. Howland has done a great job of putting a team together that fits his style of play.

[+thecalisonme]

Josh Shipp, Nick Collison, Kevin Love, Mbah a Moute, Lorenzo Matta ... thats a team. They won't run the court w/ UNC or Memphis but they'll play the best defense in the country. Howland has done a great job of putting a team together that fits his style of play.
ya they have a good team i dono i just cant get excited about them

[LeftWideOpen]

ya they have a good team i dono i just cant get excited about them

understandable. they arent an exciting team.

[+thecalisonme]

understandable. they arent an exciting team.
if bill walker goes to memphis, nasty

[Drew Beringer]

Big Ten is wide open next year now.

[leftstranded]

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

i figured oden was going. but i hoped that conley would be smart enough to stay another year to work on his game a little more

but we do have a 7'1 guy coming to osu next year. dude's going to be a monster

[LeftWideOpen]

Big Ten is wide open next year now.

I think this puts OSU, Indiana and Michigan State as 1a, 1b, and 1c.

[+thecalisonme]

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

i figured oden was going. but i hoped that conley would be smart enough to stay another year to work on his game a little more

but we do have a 7'1 guy coming to osu next year. dude's going to be a monster
too bad he just wants to shoot jump shots

[+thecalisonme]

I think this puts OSU, Indiana and Michigan State as 1a, 1b, and 1c.
id throw purdue in the mix too they have a nice freshman class coming

[Drew Beringer]

Purdue will struggle without Landry and Teague, but I could see them finish 4th to 5th. Wisconsin will struggle but they have talent with Bohannon, Landry, and Butch. I think IU has the best shot to win the Big Ten next year, as much as that kills me to say it.

[Smithers]

if the celts get oden or durant, i'd seriously debate watching that awful league again.

[xbrokendownx]

damn, conley was my favorite player not on Nova, and watching Oden dominate was fun

[STSakaTRUTH]

Kind suprised to see Cook come out, he didnt really live up to his hype... but its tough to pass up the bucks.

[StandMyBrothers]

Conley is a lottery pick in 08, not to sure about now.

[bigmike]

Conley is a lottery pick in 08, not to sure about now.
nbadraft.net has Conley going #12 to Atlanta.

[FondestMemory]

not surprising at all about cook. he pretty much made it known he was only gonna be around a year. he'd have jumped straight to the pros if that rule weren't implicated. no shocker there. just a shame he didn't perform better.

i'm gonna miss watching conley run the buckeyes. he was so fun to watch. i was hoping we'd have him for at least another season.

[StandMyBrothers]

nbadraft.net has Conley going #12 to Atlanta.
he was like no.4 on the 2008 mockdraft as of yesterday

[bigmike]

he was like no.4 on the 2008 mockdraft as of yesterday
That would be assuming he doesn't have a worse year next season then this year. Go when your stock's high. He'll only hurt his stock, IMO, if he stays.

[soundofthebrown]

cook is making a mistake. just a little disappointed if conley and oden end up going. you hear it all year, but still. hope they change their minds, if they have them made up.

[RivalTEAMS.com]

The future is not promised, I support him to take advantage of any opportunity he gets.

[gonz]

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

i figured oden was going. but i hoped that conley would be smart enough to stay another year to work on his game a little more

but we do have a 7'1 guy coming to osu next year. dude's going to be a monster

too bad he just wants to shoot jump shots
exactly, he definitely has potential though if he gets agressive
not surprising at all about cook. he pretty much made it known he was only gonna be around a year. he'd have jumped straight to the pros if that rule weren't implicated. no shocker there. just a shame he didn't perform better.

i'm gonna miss watching conley run the buckeyes. he was so fun to watch. i was hoping we'd have him for at least another season.
Yeah, he could end up helping a team, he's got the skills he just didn't perform throughout the season. He's a nice player but definitely could have used some more college ball cus his stock isn't near as what it could be after a year or two.

As for Conley and Oden, I'm pissed and disappointed as a Bucks fan but I'm happy for them and will definitely follow and root for them in any team they go to even if I hate the team.

[gonz]

When Oden was introduced, the crowd chanted, "One More Year!"

That prompted walk-on, seldom-used guard Mark Titus to grab the biggest response of the night.
He took the microphone and said, 'I heard the fans chanting 'one more year.' I sat down with my family and just want to say that I'll be back next year.'"


that's from an article that was on Yahoo Sports, so funny

[Scott Weber]

Oh well. Conley needs another year, but he'll still be a top 15 pick.

[sweethypocrisy]

cook: mvp of the nbdl in 08.

i knew oden would go, but conleyyyyyyyyy!? :(. he went from odens tag-a-long to entering the nba draft. fuck. me.

[make_this_hurt]

so has this been confirmed yet?

[StandMyBrothers]

so has this been confirmed yet?
not on ESPN

[Drew Beringer]

It would awesome if the Pacers could land the hometown boy Conley on their squad. It'll take a miracle though.

[JunkBondTrader]

yea im interested to see how purdue will be next year, i have looked at our freshman class coming in yet, but we have some decent guys coming back, sans teague and landry.

[bigmike]

yea im interested to see how purdue will be next year, i have looked at our freshman class coming in yet, but we have some decent guys coming back, sans teague and landry.
Purdue's got the #5 SF (4-star), #8 SF (4-star), #7 SG (5-star), #11 PF (4-star) and an Unrated 3-star SG coming in as well. Overall, the class is rated the 4th best class by Scout.com (where I got the star ratings, they vary on rivals.com but you get the picture) and 7th best by Rivals.com.

Purdue hasn't seen a class like this in quite some time – if ever. Coach Matt Painter (http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?Coach=841) landed a quartet of four-star standouts. The versatile class also fills several needs. E'twaun Moore is a combo guard, JaJuan Johnson as an inside/outside post and Robbie Hummel and Scott Martin as multipurpose forwards.

[Drew Beringer]

E'Twaun Moore is a baller. He is better than Eric Gordan who was Mr. Basketball in Indiana.

[leftstranded]

exactly, he definitely has potential though if he gets agressive
i hope matta decides to teach him how to be agressive. we still have some key players that will be able to run that offense and be able to hit their shots from the outside

i'm also interested to see what matta will do next season with terwilliger. he played well in the tournament

[+thecalisonme]

i hope matta decides to teach him how to be agressive. we still have some key players that will be able to run that offense and be able to hit their shots from the outside

i'm also interested to see what matta will do next season with terwilliger. he played well in the tournament
not to rain on that thought but you really cant teach someone how to be aggressive they have to do it on their own after you yell at em enough

[leftstranded]

not to rain on that thought but you really cant teach someone how to be aggressive they have to do it on their own after you yell at em enough
i disagree. if you've ever coached or have been coached than it's very possible to teach someone how to play aggressive. and what i'm meaning is teaching him how to go down into the low post and use his size to his advantage. right now he wants to shoot the 3 and take jumpshots

[+thecalisonme]

i disagree. if you've ever coached or have been coached than it's very possible to teach someone how to play aggressive. and what i'm meaning is teaching him how to go down into the low post and use his size to his advantage. right now he wants to shoot the 3 and take jumpshots
well its not just coaching its also assessing his confidence in going to the basket and being able to finnish

[LeftWideOpen]

so has this been confirmed yet?

the 3 families are meeting on sunday. expect the announcement soon after (either then or monday).

[bigmike]

i hope matta decides to teach him how to be agressive. we still have some key players that will be able to run that offense and be able to hit their shots from the outside

i'm also interested to see what matta will do next season with terwilliger. he played well in the tournament
nbadraft.net has Kosta Koufos going in the lottery in 08, so he may not be around any longer then Oden.
not to rain on that thought but you really cant teach someone how to be aggressive they have to do it on their own after you yell at em enough
Yeah. See: Michigan State Centers, starting with Paul Davis.

[leftstranded]

well its not just coaching its also assessing his confidence in going to the basket and being able to finnish
right. but going back to your previous comment about coaching having nothing to do with that. i disagree

you have to coach up his confidence in going to the basket

[leftstranded]

nbadraft.net has Kosta Koufos going in the lottery in 08, so he may not be around any longer then Oden.
i expect it. unless he completely blows and has no choice but to stay

this also brings up a great point. that i would like to see the rule get extended by 1 year. i doubt that will happen anytime soon because the rule was just change a few years ago. but i think it would do a great justice to both the ncaa and the nba

[soundofthebrown]

nbadraft.net has Kosta Koufos going in the lottery in 08, so he may not be around any longer then Oden.


i expect it. unless he completely blows and has no choice but to stay

this also brings up a great point. that i would like to see the rule get extended by 1 year. i doubt that will happen anytime soon because the rule was just change a few years ago. but i think it would do a great justice to both the ncaa and the nba


yea definitely agree that koufos is a lottery pick if he doesn't screw up. i don't know about extending by 1 more year. i mean i'm all for players staying at least 2 years before going to the pros, but you at least have to let them decide on their own.

[gonz]

i hope matta decides to teach him how to be agressive. we still have some key players that will be able to run that offense and be able to hit their shots from the outside

i'm also interested to see what matta will do next season with terwilliger. he played well in the tournament
He played well all season, he's always given good minutes. He's not incredibly talented but he works incredibly hard and it pays off for the team.
nbadraft.net has Kosta Koufos going in the lottery in 08, so he may not be around any longer then Oden.
It's looking like we'll be disposing 7 footers every year now as we've got a 5-star 7 footer coming in the next season too, to go along with 4 other 5 stars already. Thank you, Thad :worship:

(that's according to Scout.com, Rivals has two of them ranked as 4's)

[selftitled85]

i understand conley but oden has pretty much proven nothing. he would be so much better prepared if he stayed one more year.

[leftstranded]

i understand conley but oden has pretty much proven nothing. he would be so much better prepared if he stayed one more year.
i agree that he will be better prepared if he stays one more year. all these kids will

however saying that he's proven nothing is rediculous. i mean he dominated in a ton of games this season(including the national championship game). there were a few games that he got into foul trouble, but he still dominated in almost every min that he played in the tournament

[selftitled85]

i agree that he will be better prepared if he stays one more year. all these kids will

however saying that he's proven nothing is rediculous. i mean he dominated in a ton of games this season(including the national championship game). there were a few games that he got into foul trouble, but he still dominated in almost every min that he played in the tournament

every game minus the final game of the tourney he was in foul trouble. and in reality florida played oden wrong. they left oden by himself most of the time and rarely doubled up on him. you cant leave him single covered. almost every other team played him correctly.

[StandMyBrothers]

Oden's dad confirmed all three are entering. Mike Conley Sr. will represent oden as his agent.

[Drew Beringer]

Thad Matta is a great recruiter, horrible coach.

[FondestMemory]

Thad Matta is a great recruiter, horrible coach.

i wouldn't call him a horrible coach by any means.

far better recruiter than coach, but nowhere near horrible.

[looksthatkillbn]

i wouldn't call him a horrible coach by any means.

far better recruiter than coach, but nowhere near horrible.

concur

[leftstranded]

every game minus the final game of the tourney he was in foul trouble. and in reality florida played oden wrong. they left oden by himself most of the time and rarely doubled up on him. you cant leave him single covered. almost every other team played him correctly.
again i admit, they got him into foul trouble. but again to say he ultimately sucked and proved nothing is rediculous. was still a huge factor in why ohio state was great this year

[bigmike]

i understand conley but oden has pretty much proven nothing. he would be so much better prepared if he stayed one more year.
I disagree. Physically, he's better then any center in college basketball and base on that alone someone will take him and with great reason. I subscribe to the theory he was looking out for himself in terms of not getting hurt through most of the season, so he remained passive. Look at when he wanted to, how much he dominated. 24 pts, 15 boards against Tennessee back in the regular season. The block at the end of the OSU/Tenn game in the tourney. the National title game.

I think that, coupled with not fitting the run and gun and Thad Matta's unwillingness to tone down the system for the best center, physically and tools wise in a decade, hinder any sort of numbers. He should've touched the ball every time down the court against Florida in the Title game; he was carving them up in the paint.

I think if oden was in a place, like say, Georgetown, he would've put up monster numbers and then the hype would've been RIDICULOUS.

[make_this_hurt]

Thad Matta is a great recruiter, horrible coach.
what a joke.

he's won everywhere he's been. you can't just win with good recruiting.

[fire on my lips]

Thad Matta is a great recruiter, horrible coach.

still better than Barnes

Oden's dad says that he'll declare and Conley Sr. will be the agent
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2837151

[StandMyBrothers]

still better than Barnes

Oden's dad says that he'll declare and Conley Sr. will be the agent
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2007/news/story?id=2837151
ya dude I just said that.

[preppyak]

this also brings up a great point. that i would like to see the rule get extended by 1 year. i doubt that will happen anytime soon because the rule was just change a few years ago. but i think it would do a great justice to both the ncaa and the nba
I would prefer to have it exactly like college football personally...imagine OSU or Texas in 2 years if those guys stay and they pull in their recruiting classes they have now....they'd be disgusting.

I'd settle for 2 years, but I would prefer 3

[gonz]

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news?slug=ap-oden-conley-nbadraft&prov=ap&type=lgns

looks like Papa Greg gon get smacked

[Drew Beringer]

lol That's good news.

[leftstranded]

I would prefer to have it exactly like college football personally...imagine OSU or Texas in 2 years if those guys stay and they pull in their recruiting classes they have now....they'd be disgusting.

I'd settle for 2 years, but I would prefer 3
i would prefer 3 as well. but that's asking too much at this stage. 2 would be more realistic

[mcfly21]

greg.....

please stay, or somehow get yourself on the cavs

[RyanHall]

E'Twaun Moore is a baller. He is better than Eric Gordan who was Mr. Basketball in Indiana.


I love E'Twaun Moore. I'm from the same area as him so I've been following his career for years but there is no way in hell that he is better than Eric Gordon.

[preppyak]

i would prefer 3 as well. but that's asking too much at this stage. 2 would be more realistic
yeah...I know...I've just watched the way college players progress, and the guys that stay always tend to be better off. And if it was 3 years, people pick schools based on coaches and systems, not based on exposure directly, and the quality of the game is better for it. And for a few years the draft would suffer, but only maybe 2, and I think they would still be fine.

[leftstranded]

yeah...I know...I've just watched the way college players progress, and the guys that stay always tend to be better off. And if it was 3 years, people pick schools based on coaches and systems, not based on exposure directly, and the quality of the game is better for it. And for a few years the draft would suffer, but only maybe 2, and I think they would still be fine.
i couldn't agree with you more

[bigmike]

yeah...I know...I've just watched the way college players progress, and the guys that stay always tend to be better off. And if it was 3 years, people pick schools based on coaches and systems, not based on exposure directly, and the quality of the game is better for it. And for a few years the draft would suffer, but only maybe 2, and I think they would still be fine.
I agree with all of this, however, you cannot keep people from their right to earn a living.

[Drew Beringer]

I agree with all of this, however, you cannot keep people from their right to earn a living.

and that's the bottom line.

[StandMyBrothers]

hey Weebs, Nbadraft shows Yi Jianlian as Seattles pick. Another PF-C to add to your collection.

[Scott Weber]

hey Weebs, Nbadraft shows Yi Jianlian as Seattles pick. Another PF-C to add to your collection.
Won't happen. Not this time around.

[bigmike]

At one point nbadraft.net had the Pistons taking Josh McRoberts and then Tyler Hansbrough (before he said he was coming back to school) in the 1st round.

[leftstranded]

I agree with all of this, however, you cannot keep people from their right to earn a living.
apparently you can if you look at the way the nfl has set it up

if the nba really wanted to. they could. but they just don't want to

[FondestMemory]

apparently you can if you look at the way the nfl has set it up

if the nba really wanted to. they could. but they just don't want to

there is no way the nba players union would allow it. even if the nba wanted to, there's no way it'd happen.

nfl is collectively bargained like that. their players know that no kid is ready right out of high school and the more time they have to develop physically the better. not to mention that's been the rule for a long time. if that rule weren't in place and they tried to implicate it now, no way they'd make it work either.

[bigmike]

apparently you can if you look at the way the nfl has set it up

if the nba really wanted to. they could. but they just don't want to
And I think the NFL is wrong in that. However, in the defense of their rules, there's no way a high school senior is physically ready for the NFL. Save for a few kids who are more few and far between then high school b-ball players.