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smokedsanity
04/23/07, 05:41 AM
So, this is the personal life forum and I realize that I will be greeted with responses of "get real problems, then complain," etc. I just want to get something out and have nowhere to turn anymore. This past Saturday, during some of the city of Louisville's festivities, I exploded much like a volcano. Many of use spent the afternoon and evening drinking some alcholic beverages and I, admittedly, let those affect my judgement. A certain friend of mine, whom I have been close with for nearly three years, has always had a habit of pushing his male friends to side when females are around. I don't just mean that he focuses the attention on them and ignores us. He will go out of his way to make himself look superior. He'll say shitty things to make fun of us, he'll get angry and snappy when we don't leave he and some girl alone, he'll basically treat us as if we don't belong around him. As I said, this has been going on for three years. I never really addressed the issue. I'm the guy who lets things build and build over time until it all pours out in an inappropriate fashion.

So on Saturday, after he made a point of treating me as inferior in front of his high soccer buddies, a mutual friend for whom he has romantic interest, and some random 19 year old, I blew up. I went off, called him a "bitch," blah blah blah. Now, in a way, I'm glad that I finally aired my grievances. I am, in no way, happy about the way in which I went about that airing, but I am relieved to have it off of my chest. But now I am faced with two problems. One, I blew up like some asshole on the Real World. Now, everyone thinks I'm crazy. Two, they think that it was for a reason other than the actual reason.

The mutual friend is a girl whom I have been friends with since high school and that I dated for a short while three years ago. Relatively recently, she was involved with a guy who was a dick and she was unhappy. We were all drinking one night and lonely, so I told her that I had feelings for her, yadda yadda yadda. A few weeks later, I was talking to the friend whom was the target of my explosion, and he said something about it. I said "Yeah, I was drunk, but I do like her, she deserves better." (mostly stressing the "she deserves better.") Again, I was drinking when I said this. Now, keep in mind that I have done abolutely nothing to support any claim about having feelings for her, other than saying things on two drinking occasions. Now, everyone thinks that I am some jealous psycho on top of just being an asshole. I never took back what I said during those two drinking conversations, because I simply felt it unnecessary. I was drinking, we all say stupid shit when we drink. I didn't give it any thought. But as things have unfolded, it seems that I should have said something.

So, now the friend has decided he wants little to do with me (I can't blame him, I exploded for reasons that I let build until there was an explosion. Though, I have once confronted him about his alpha male complex, to which he laughed and told me, "That is just the way I am"). He also put up something about it in an AIM away message and has told numerous people of the situation, so I really have very few people to turn to now. I regret my actions, but I don't know what to do now. I know that drinking played a part and I obviously need to take that into consideration. I drank some, opened my big mouth, then later went off. So, I already know that part. But I ask you to go ahead and consider that I drink often enough to know that I am not a "bad" drunk. I don't drink all the time, but every one of two weekends, we'll have some drinks and hang out. I don't fight or get emotional or anything. One night, I said something to a girl when I shouldn't have. Later, someone asked me about it, so I addressed it. Then, I blew up after I let other things build. While I believe alcohol played a part, I don't believe that it was the reason.

I realize that barely anyone will actually take the time to read this, but if you read it...thank you. And I'll take any advice, except "anal."

LV03
04/23/07, 07:04 AM
i first entered this thread and thought "hell i'm not reading this," but then i figured i have nothing better to do on this fine morning, so i'll post a rambling reply:

A similar situation has happened to me before, but not to this extent. My best friend used to do the same to us, whenever she was around with guys. She used to always leave us at parties, which is totally fine, i wasn't planning on leeching on to her all night...but it was to the point where she wouldn't even aknowledge our presence, or completely ignore us until the next morning when she needed a ride home. This was kind of back in high school, so we were still immature and young...but i never confronted her. Then one night I got really drunk (ha, things that alcohol makes you do), and totally started yelling at her at a party. It got out of line, there was lots of screaming and crying (and no, no catfight mud wrestling.) After that we kind of avoided one another for a few months, but then I finally got the balls to call her. She said that the main thing which upset her was the way i handled the situation, and that i didn't tell her in the first place how i felt. I let it all brew inside of me, until it finally raged out all at once (just like ur story.) She's pretty straight forward and always voices her opinion, while i'm more quiet. But ever since we had the talk, i feel really comfortable now telling her how i feel...and we haven't fought since.

So now that i wrote an entire novel as well....pretty much, i would say you guys will eventually get over it. But let him know if he's being an asshole. Just confront him right there and then, which will make him realize how hes acting. It does suck having everyone know the story, but it doesn't mean that they think you're an asshole...they could actually probably care less. Just give it a little bit of time, i think it's probably beneficial for you guys to be apart for a while. Okay, i'm too lazy to type more stuff, but hope you feel better.

Lueda Alia
04/23/07, 07:28 AM
If the "friend" has been telling everyone what happened (for one reason only and we can all guess what it is) there is no reason for you to want him in your life anymore. I mean, I don't doubt that he has some good qualities, but they seem to be overshadowed by his flaws. I find it unacceptable for a friend to treat you the way he does - there are no excuses for it. If "that's the way he is," then really, do you want to be associated with someone like that? I realize that it's easier said than done, but I think that you would really be a lot better off without him in the long run.

Iamhome
04/23/07, 09:48 AM
Play it cool man. If people see you acting like a little drama queen worrying about your d00d friend - They are going to know you're 'guilty' of everything he is saying. If you act like nothing weird happened, they wont judge you. You bring the judgement upon yourself - you feeling bad about it is making people judge you this way - You did nothing wrong. Your friend is a dick so you let him have it, no harm done.

richter915
04/23/07, 10:52 AM
I think alcohol is having a more negative effect on all this. If you're aware that a situation might get dicey, try and limit yourself. I know it's not as fun but in the long run, it avoids shit like this. Obviously blowing up on anyone isn't the way to solve any problem as you can see from this but I think it's important you got it out and let him know. It sucks when everyone turns against you and makes lame rumors about getting with girls and all...kinda pathetic that people think that all you think about is some girl when in actuality she had little to do with it. This problem seems like it's the sorta thing that if you wait it out, it might get better.

Question for you though, where are you other friends on this issue? You said that you plus other guys get shit on by the dude u flipped on so why aren't the other guys who get mistreated defending you? Man, people have to start stepping up and growing a pair. Good luck with this.

smokedsanity
04/23/07, 01:28 PM
If the "friend" has been telling everyone what happened (for one reason only and we can all guess what it is) there is no reason for you to want him in your life anymore. I mean, I don't doubt that he has some good qualities, but they seem to be overshadowed by his flaws. I find it unacceptable for a friend to treat you the way he does - there are no excuses for it. If "that's the way he is," then really, do you want to be associated with someone like that? I realize that it's easier said than done, but I think that you would really be a lot better off without him in the long run.

These thoughts have been running across my mind since last night. I'm not so much looking to repair the friendship, I am giving up on that. This situation has led me to think about other situations in the past, most of which did not involve me directly.

Play it cool man. If people see you acting like a little drama queen worrying about your d00d friend - They are going to know you're 'guilty' of everything he is saying. If you act like nothing weird happened, they wont judge you. You bring the judgement upon yourself - you feeling bad about it is making people judge you this way - You did nothing wrong. Your friend is a dick so you let him have it, no harm done.

Well, I haven't done anything yet. I did my blowing up Saturday night and I apologized for my explosion. I didn't apologize for the words behind it, so of course that well lead them to believe it is still focused on that one thing. I'm waiting before I even try to touch that. Right now, people's guards are up and he'll strongly deny anything I say, so I won't even make an attempt just yet.

I think alcohol is having a more negative effect on all this. If you're aware that a situation might get dicey, try and limit yourself. I know it's not as fun but in the long run, it avoids shit like this. Obviously blowing up on anyone isn't the way to solve any problem as you can see from this but I think it's important you got it out and let him know. It sucks when everyone turns against you and makes lame rumors about getting with girls and all...kinda pathetic that people think that all you think about is some girl when in actuality she had little to do with it. This problem seems like it's the sorta thing that if you wait it out, it might get better.

Question for you though, where are you other friends on this issue? You said that you plus other guys get shit on by the dude u flipped on so why aren't the other guys who get mistreated defending you? Man, people have to start stepping up and growing a pair. Good luck with this.

Oh, I know that alcohol played a part in it. Honestly, I didn't plan on anything like that. In fact, after the first two occasions in which he acted like a dick, I just walked away and kept my mouth shut. I wasn't going to let that ruin my day. But after a third time and not really anymore booze (Though I am sure that I had already had enough), I was tired of it. If the people actually sat back and looked at things, they'd have to realize that it wasn't about the girl. I said something to her once, never actually lobbying for myself, mostly just saying that I felt she could do better and that I wanted to see such for her. I said the same stuff to the guy when he brought up the topic. Outside of those conversations, I did nothing to imply I had those kind of feelings for her. I called her twice in between now and then, when the guy asked me to call her. I never once sent any messages online or anything. I really didn't do anything but say, "Hey I care about you, you can do better." I even remember thinking to myself that it would be somewhat difficult to twist those conversations into "I care about her so much, I want to be with her, she's the only girl for me." It is just all so ridiculous. "Friends," huh?

Well, my other friends that have been involved are not going to say anything. I don't really have much contact with one since he is constantly high and the other avoids arguments. I would bring up discussions I've had with one of them about the behavior, but I know he won't say anything or support me. I love the guy, but he is unconfrontational to a fault. It has hurt him in other areas.

Judge'sDaughter
04/23/07, 03:23 PM
I think you were justified in your actions- no matter what, do not appoliogize to the guy that you yelled at. Eventually he shall relaize that he was wrong. Though screaming your thoughts was probably not the most intelligent thing to do, when a human being is put under a considerable amount of pressure for a considerably long time, they tend to get rather angst-y. Don't even talk to the guy. Let him come to you- if he doesn't then meh, I am sure you have other friends.

As for the situation with the girl, She may be feeling rather odd right now because of the yelling, but that is no reason to bring drunk conversations into the picture. If she still wants to be your friend then great. If she doesn't but you still want to then simply explain that you were drunk when you mentioned having feelings for her- though you and your friends should come up with a mutual pact that drunk conversations are strictly void.
If people are going to hate on you or treat you like scum because you were open and honest then they aren't your real friends and they are nobody that you should be hanging around with. Think about the true defenition of a friend, man.