Am I less of a music lover if...

[notsofamous]

If I don't know the full story behind every band I listen to?
If I don't know the first and last names of every single member in the bands I listen to?
If I don't know what the lead singer of this band said about the drummer in that band?
If I don't know the juicy gossip behind the bands I listen to?
I feel like LESS of a music lover sometimes.



I come into these forums and read these posts, and people know EVERYTHING about EVERY BAND, and it got me thinking: I love music. I love MUSIC. I don't go out of my way to research much else than maybe who produced their albums, or when they will be swinging through Philadelphia on tour. So, does this make me LESS of a music lover? Or am I the music lover, and THEY are the fans?



Anyone care to answer this for me?

[xxeuthanasia]

well you're not some crazy obsessed stalker fan.


that should make you feel better.

[Andy K]

Nah, I don't think it makes you less of a music lover. I think it is good to know a little bit about the bands you are into. It makes it easier to talk in these kind of forums. Just don't let these music snobs on this site get to you. They obviously have no life if all they do is bash people for not knowing every detail about a band.

[xxeuthanasia]

Nah, I don't think it makes you less of a music lover. I think it is good to know a little bit about the bands you are into. It makes it easier to talk in these kind of forums. Just don't let these music snobs on this site get to you. They obviously have no life if all they do is bash people for not knowing every detail about a band.
ah-greed.

[theguilt engine]

No, I hate when people say 'being a fan' is knowing every single thing about a band. Completely lame.

[oldwirehands]

Those kind of people suck. It gets to the point where these kids don't even care about the music. All of these bands create patterns of vibrations in the air. They arrange these vibrations to express their thoughts and emotions. They are artists and if people feel the need to research more about an artist, that is fine, but it really doesn't matter in the end.

[Smash Adams]

I don't, I for one think you only need to know every member of the band if they're the beatles or led zeppelin

[xxeuthanasia]

music is music.

[notsofamous]

exactly. I agree with each of your opinions & statements. I just almost felt like, hmmmm, maybe EVERYONE is like that and knows EVERYTHING, and almost felt like I was supposed to be super obsessed. but FUCK THAT SHIT YO!! haha



thank you guys!! <3

[clint9]

Those type of fans wiki their "favorite bands" all the time just so they can say they know more then someone else... They are just is pissing contests with each other. LAME!!! It's mainly the "hardcore" (a.k.a. screamo-emo) kids anyway... They suck and so does their music.

[Tyler Revolution]

You obviously can be on different levels of loving music. I'm sure you know a thing or two about your favorite bands, but for some people, learning about them all and learning about the history of music is exciting, and a passion. Not knowing everything about music doesn't mean you like it any less, otherwise we'd all be fucked.

[Cheshire_Buddha]

Who really gives a shit.

/end thread.

[eMart]

In my experience, it seems most of the people who obsess over certain bands and call themselves real fans, are the same people who pretend they never liked them once that band isn't "cool" anymore.

[lew_1987]

you're a bad person, go to confession.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

i dont think you should care what our answer to that question is

but since you do, my answer is no

i love knowing all that crap, some people dont. whatever

[notsofamous]

i dont think you should care what our answer to that question is

but since you do, my answer is no

i love knowing all that crap, some people dont. whatever

i was just wondering other people's opinions jackass. whatever yo.

[Chancetobe]

I think that so long as you have listened to an album to the extent where you know all of the songs, that is when you are a fan of the band, and more than just a casual listener.

[Daveyhavok832]

I hate douchebags who know everything about bands... it is a little pathetic.

[notsofamous]

I hate douchebags who know everything about bands... it is a little pathetic.


i mean, if you want to know every single detail about bands, cool, whatever, that is your thing...but it's the jackasses who shove it down your throats and flaunt their knowledge of the dumbest shit that i hate. hate!

[AP_Punk]

We don't listen to/discuss music on this site.

[Daveyhavok832]

i mean, if you want to know every single detail about bands, cool, whatever, that is your thing...but it's the jackasses who shove it down your throats and flaunt their knowledge of the dumbest shit that i hate. hate!
Agreed. There's a lot of stuff out there that you're missing if all you do is devote yourself to someone else's music.

[Brokenhill]

...I just can't stand those people here this song on the radio and their like

"oh em gee, I friggin love this song...its by some new artist, but I forget who"

and Im like..."yea thats taking back sunday (or whoever), and they came out like 5 years ago..."

and their like "oh..."

Like people who dont know the background info on some bands and their past releases kinda irritates me sometimes...

[emerypearl]

Who really gives a shit.
exactly

[Susanna]

...I just can't stand those people here this song on the radio and their like

"oh em gee, I friggin love this song...its by some new artist, but I forget who"

and Im like..."yea thats taking back sunday (or whoever), and they came out like 5 years ago..."

and their like "oh..."

Like people who dont know the background info on some bands and their past releases kinda irritates me sometimes...
It irritates me too, actually. It bothers me to a certain extent when people become enamored with whatever band is "cool". It especially bothers me when the people who do this are oblivious to anything pertaining to the band and as soon as their single stops being played on the radio, they will forget about the band. I also hate it when people latch on to other peoples musical intrests in attempts to look like they actually have semi-decent musical taste. I have a friend who will list her favorite bands and every single one of them are bands that I introduced her to and that she has only listened to because I told her how amazing they are. Be original find a band you like on your own. There is one me in the world, that is quite enough. Thanks.

Phew, that rant is over. Haha sorry guys, that was long.

[notsofamous]

It irritates me too, actually. It bothers me to a certain extent when people become enamored with whatever band is "cool". It especially bothers me when the people who do this are oblivious to anything pertaining to the band and as soon as their single stops being played on the radio, they will forget about the band. I also hate it when people latch on to other peoples musical intrests in attempts to look like they actually have semi-decent musical taste. I have a friend who will list her favorite bands and every single one of them are bands that I introduced her to and that she has only listened to because I told her how amazing they are. Be original find a band you like on your own. There is one me in the world, that is quite enough. Thanks.

Phew, that rant is over. Haha sorry guys, that was long.



ummmmm....welcome to the story of my LIFE.
& now that friend thinks she is a MUSIC GODDESS when in reality she doesn tknow SHIT about anything.....fuck, maybe this makes me a music snob and i should just be GLAD i turned someone on to new music....but i can't help but get pissed off when she then turns around and pretends like she knows EVERYTHING about certain bands, and she DOESNT. any band she listens to now, is because i told her to listen to them. fuck offffffffffffff

[Brokenhill]

It irritates me too, actually. It bothers me to a certain extent when people become enamored with whatever band is "cool". It especially bothers me when the people who do this are oblivious to anything pertaining to the band and as soon as their single stops being played on the radio, they will forget about the band. I also hate it when people latch on to other peoples musical intrests in attempts to look like they actually have semi-decent musical taste. I have a friend who will list her favorite bands and every single one of them are bands that I introduced her to and that she has only listened to because I told her how amazing they are. Be original find a band you like on your own. There is one me in the world, that is quite enough. Thanks.

Phew, that rant is over. Haha sorry guys, that was long.


ahha...word.

I introduce my friends to allot of music...right off the bat their like "meh...its ok...I dont really like it that much"

Then I see them at school like 3 days later, and their like "dude...I freakin love that song you showed me"

or when they say "my all time favorite song is....(and its some song that jus tcame out last week)"

My friend Eric says his all time favorite song is "Woman" by Wolfmother I think...

Im like...are you kidding me?

[ticklemyfancy]

:yawn:

[notsofamous]

:yawn:


i love vegas.
see you again in august.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

i was just wondering other people's opinions jackass. whatever yo.


i was just answering your question

the reason i said you shouldn't care is because, thats my opinion. which is what you asked for

chill

[Jess7286]

Basically, you suck since you nothing about Panic! at the Disco.

Loser.


:)

[Susanna]

ummmmm....welcome to the story of my LIFE.
& now that friend thinks she is a MUSIC GODDESS when in reality she doesn tknow SHIT about anything.....fuck, maybe this makes me a music snob and i should just be GLAD i turned someone on to new music....but i can't help but get pissed off when she then turns around and pretends like she knows EVERYTHING about certain bands, and she DOESNT. any band she listens to now, is because i told her to listen to them. fuck offffffffffffff
Yes! That is exactly the situation with my friend. I will take her to shows because I need somebody to go with me and I know she'll be down and then after the show she will brag to people about seeing them even though she had NO idea who anybody was prior to me forcing her to go see them with me. It drives me crazy. I agree about feeling like a music snob but shit I'd rather be a music snob than someone who has no musical individuality at all.

[Susanna]

ahha...word.

I introduce my friends to allot of music...right off the bat their like "meh...its ok...I dont really like it that much"

Then I see them at school like 3 days later, and their like "dude...I freakin love that song you showed me"

or when they say "my all time favorite song is....(and its some song that jus tcame out last week)"

My friend Eric says his all time favorite song is "Woman" by Wolfmother I think...

Im like...are you kidding me?
Yeah, this happens to me a lot too. I'm also the person everyone comes to when they want someone to burn them a cd. I hate it when I know for a fact that somebody has probably never heard a song by a band but insists on having me burn them the cd and probably the only reason why they even know the name of the band is because I listed them as one of my favorite bands on Facebook or MySpace. Haha. geesh people. Oh and one last random bitch about people: my friend listed all her favorite bands on Facebook and I introduced her to every single one of them and I know she either doesn't have the cd or if she does I burned it for it within the past month. Apparently, I am a music snob and I am done with my bitch fest. :-)

[trainwreck89]

You obviously can be on different levels of loving music. I'm sure you know a thing or two about your favorite bands, but for some people, learning about them all and learning about the history of music is exciting, and a passion. Not knowing everything about music doesn't mean you like it any less, otherwise we'd all be fucked.

perfectly said

You are no less of a music fan just because you dont know all of these obscure details. There are a few bands I get obsessive about so i do enjoy finding out about all of these random things but to have this elitist attitude because of what you know about certain bands is ridiculous. With that being said, you are truly out of the loop if you have yet to see Pete Wentz' dick.

[Brokenhill]

Yeah, this happens to me a lot too. I'm also the person everyone comes to when they want someone to burn them a cd. I hate it when I know for a fact that somebody has probably never heard a song by a band but insists on having me burn them the cd and probably the only reason why they even know the name of the band is because I listed them as one of my favorite bands on Facebook or MySpace. Haha. geesh people. Oh and one last random bitch about people: my friend listed all her favorite bands on Facebook and I introduced her to every single one of them and I know she either doesn't have the cd or if she does I burned it for it within the past month. Apparently, I am a music snob and I am done with my bitch fest. :-)


Haha, I just let my friend borrow ike 6 CDs to put on his computer...

Only because he admitted I have good taste in music. =P

[Susanna]

Haha, I just let my friend borrow ike 6 CDs to put on his computer...

Only because he admitted I have good taste in music. =P
Haha I'm a sucker for compliments as well

[Andrew_Murphy]

Don't worry kiddies as you grow up your friends will start to gain their own musical taste.

[bduke13]

It irritates me too, actually. It bothers me to a certain extent when people become enamored with whatever band is "cool". It especially bothers me when the people who do this are oblivious to anything pertaining to the band and as soon as their single stops being played on the radio, they will forget about the band. I also hate it when people latch on to other peoples musical intrests in attempts to look like they actually have semi-decent musical taste. I have a friend who will list her favorite bands and every single one of them are bands that I introduced her to and that she has only listened to because I told her how amazing they are. Be original find a band you like on your own. There is one me in the world, that is quite enough. Thanks.

Phew, that rant is over. Haha sorry guys, that was long.

I agree with you on that but I also hate in when people think they are more of a fan, or a better and bigger fan, since they found out about a band right when they started. For example, just because I like FOB and found out about them through MTV doesn't mean I only enjoy their singles. I am sure the same can be said about other people for bands like Gym Class Heroes, Taking Back Sunday and others..

[El_Jeffe]

nah who cares. aslong as you're lovin' what you're jammin' to who cares. we're all music fans here

[Andrew_Murphy]

I agree with you on that but I also hate in when people think they are more of a fan, or a better and bigger fan, since they found out about a band right when they started. For example, just because I like FOB and found out about them through MTV doesn't mean I only enjoy their singles. I am sure the same can be said about other people for bands like Gym Class Heroes, Taking Back Sunday and others..

I dunno if you only like band's singles as apposed to someone who likes all their music I'd say that they are more of a fan.

[Susanna]

Don't worry kiddies as you grow up your friends will start to gain their own musical taste.
I am as grown up as you are and my friends have yet to develop their own musical tastes.

[bduke13]

I dunno if you only like band's singles as apposed to someone who likes all their music I'd say that they are more of a fan.

You may have misread what I said but I agree with you that if someone only knows and enjoys bands singles, they aren't much of a fan

[Brokenhill]

personally I dont like to consider myself a true fan unless I own one of their albums.

[love_american_style]

If I don't know the full story behind every band I listen to?
If I don't know the first and last names of every single member in the bands I listen to?
If I don't know what the lead singer of this band said about the drummer in that band?
If I don't know the juicy gossip behind the bands I listen to?
I feel like LESS of a music lover sometimes.


of course not.

[El_Jeffe]

personally I dont like to consider myself a true fan unless I own one of their albums.

i see what ya saying & there probably is a difference between a fan of 'that one song on the radio' & owning an album. but there's some smaller bands i've seen like... good dozen or more times, know their material through & through, love them, yet don't own an album. usually for no other reason that it's hard to find their albums

[chokeychicken]

the only thing i have a real problem with is ignorance. i don't give a shit what you know or what you don't know, but if you think that norma jean is hardcore and evanescene writes great lyrics, then that's just ignorance and lack of musical taste. thinking that fall out boy invented pop punk is ignorance. thinking three cheers was mcr's first record is ignorance. stuff like that bothers me because are fucking stupid and only listen to what they're told by the media and other outlets. i dont care how many band members names you know.

i've listened to the get up kids for 8 years .. i would take a bullet for that band. but i can't name all the band members to save my life.

[Branevember31]

no...i only know that stuff for a handful of bands i love

[Brokenhill]

i see what ya saying & there probably is a difference between a fan of 'that one song on the radio' & owning an album. but there's some smaller bands i've seen like... good dozen or more times, know their material through & through, love them, yet don't own an album. usually for no other reason that it's hard to find their albums


Right, I completely understand.

I was just saying for me personally.

[Brokenhill]

the only thing i have a real problem with is ignorance. i don't give a shit what you know or what you don't know, but if you think that norma jean is hardcore and evanescene writes great lyrics, then that's just ignorance and lack of musical taste. thinking that fall out boy invented pop punk is ignorance. thinking three cheers was mcr's first record is ignorance. stuff like that bothers me because are fucking stupid and only listen to what they're told by the media and other outlets. i dont care how many band members names you know.

i've listened to the get up kids for 8 years .. i would take a bullet for that band. but i can't name all the band members to save my life.


Stuff like that irritates me too...im just not an atomic bomb about it.

I can control myself.

[El_Jeffe]

the only thing i have a real problem with is ignorance. i don't give a shit what you know or what you don't know, but if you think that norma jean is hardcore and evanescene writes great lyrics, then that's just ignorance and lack of musical taste. thinking that fall out boy invented pop punk is ignorance. thinking three cheers was mcr's first record is ignorance. stuff like that bothers me because are fucking stupid and only listen to what they're told by the media and other outlets. i dont care how many band members names you know.

i've listened to the get up kids for 8 years .. i would take a bullet for that band. but i can't name all the band members to save my life.

i'm not sure if it's ignorance or lack of respect, or maybe they overlap one another. it doesn't worry me one bit if someone doesn't enjoy a classic album, say the likes of 'london calling.' but when they bash it & praise some johnny-come-lately to the music world band over them... it's a bit weird. i mean fair enough if you enjoy that album over a classic, nothing wrong with that whatsoever, each to their own. but i think sometimes the respect is lost on the impact of those bands/albums etc

Right, I completely understand.

I was just saying for me personally.

yea fair call, i probably would generally agree with ya mate. haha you get so much more crap than you deserve around here sometimes

[Brokenhill]

I dislike allot of band that have become landmarks in history.

However, I never denounce their talent, and I respect them.

For instance the beatles...I really don't enjoy their music, I guess they're just ot poppy for me. But mad respect for their influence and talent.

[a speedo model]

I don't think so.

[IAmNietzche]

So many cunty************eers in here.

cuntyn.iggerf.aggoteers if you were wondering.

[Yes. And?]

there should be more fans like you....

and less like stupid whore fangirls...."z0mg, gee's wearing a ring because he said he found someone special!!!!!!!" and then, i get in trouble when i tell them to shut the fuck up and mind their own! big deal if you've been to 9 concerts, i give a fuck? No, I'm not joining your "Ray toro's 'fro parade'" or yet another, "MCR saved my life!!!!!!!" club.M-(

get your gossip from trashy socialites and your music from bands. the way it sould be. sorry to make that all about me...

[Daneurysm]

it doesn't matter as long as you enjoy the music for what it is. i can't stand people who are crazy and obsessed with their "favorite band". aka annoying ten year olds at fall out boy shows.

[Dan CiTi]

I'm kinda like that with a few bands.

[notsofamous]

Don't worry kiddies as you grow up your friends will start to gain their own musical taste.


not likely. my friend is 22. with no concept or appreciation for good music, it is sad to say the least

[xJangsterrx]

I find that as long as you like the music a band makes, then you can call your self a fan.

But it bugs me when people call themselves fans when they don't know any songs, and only think that the band members are hot.

Don't get me wrong, there are tons of good-looking guys in bands, but either i listen to their music, or i don't call myself a fan, lol

[buysoap]

If you like something, I don't think it's bad to take an active interest in whatever band it is and learn a bit more about it. I know where some of my favorite bands came from and what the songs are about, and that makes the experience more interesting, and in my argument, better, because it's that much easier to find a connection with a song. You can love the music, sure, but there is always something deeper.

Unless the band is like.. Hawthorne Heights.

[Andrew_Murphy]

I also think that to be a true fan of a band you need a certain amount of respect for the band.

[clint9]

Basically, you suck since you nothing about Panic! at the Disco.

Loser.


:)

Actually, the less you know about that band the cooler you are... There is only one thing everyone needs to know about Panic!... they blow!!!! Seriously... awful.

[NickSyseJr]

if you know the music/lyrics... i think you're good.
it's nice to know where a band is located, some backstory, and how they fit... bu t other than that, i think you're fine.

[XxIronistxX]

It doesn't really matter, as long as you enjoy the music then you're exactly where you're supposed to be in everything...

[kashleywitha_k]

If I don't know the full story behind every band I listen to?
If I don't know the first and last names of every single member in the bands I listen to?
If I don't know what the lead singer of this band said about the drummer in that band?
If I don't know the juicy gossip behind the bands I listen to?
I feel like LESS of a music lover sometimes.



I come into these forums and read these posts, and people know EVERYTHING about EVERY BAND, and it got me thinking: I love music. I love MUSIC. I don't go out of my way to research much else than maybe who produced their albums, or when they will be swinging through Philadelphia on tour. So, does this make me LESS of a music lover? Or am I the music lover, and THEY are the fans?



Anyone care to answer this for me?

i dont think so. im a HUGE music lover. nothing makes me happier than listening to music and going to concerts, but like you, i dont know every single members first and last name, and i dont "research" for the info for the most part either, and i dont know everything about all the bands i listen too. but it doesnt make me or you any less of a fan then the next person. dont let thiose other opeople who know everything about every siongle band make you feel like you are less of a music fan. people who know everything prob. have no life and spend all there time finding info about this band or that band.

[kashleywitha_k]

Actually, the less you know about that band the cooler you are... There is only one thing everyone needs to know about Panic!... they blow!!!! Seriously... awful.

i agree.

i really liked panic when they first came out, but now after hearing them and listening tio constant music plays and videos, im kinda annoyed now and am much less of a fan.

[kashleywitha_k]

I dislike allot of band that have become landmarks in history.

However, I never denounce their talent, and I respect them.

For instance the beatles...I really don't enjoy their music, I guess they're just ot poppy for me. But mad respect for their influence and talent.


same here

[kashleywitha_k]

It irritates me too, actually. It bothers me to a certain extent when people become enamored with whatever band is "cool". It especially bothers me when the people who do this are oblivious to anything pertaining to the band and as soon as their single stops being played on the radio, they will forget about the band. I also hate it when people latch on to other peoples musical intrests in attempts to look like they actually have semi-decent musical taste. I have a friend who will list her favorite bands and every single one of them are bands that I introduced her to and that she has only listened to because I told her how amazing they are. Be original find a band you like on your own. There is one me in the world, that is quite enough. Thanks.

Phew, that rant is over. Haha sorry guys, that was long.


agreed... totally agree with you.

[notsofamous]

I appreciate everyone's responses.

To some: I didn't really so much feel like LESS of a music lover. I just didn't know if it was more common than I thought to be a "know it all" about bands...

And as this thread has proven, it is not.

So thank you for chatting about this with me friends!

[Mavsweetie06]

Well it really pisses me off when people think that you're only a true fan if you know every single detail about the band. Like with Madina Lake... im a big fan, ive been a fan for a few months and uh.. i pretty much got dissed because i didnt know that they got an infection when they were on fear factor and everyone was like.. oooh your new at this arent you? im like.. no im not new to knowing their music.. i could care less about a stupid infection. sheesh. lol. I think these little 15 year olds take it way to far when they like cute little boy bands... and its sad when they get to the point where they know more about the band then the band does themselves.

[lawofaverages]

Knowing some facts about bands is called having knowledge. I don't like listening to music and knowing absolutely nothing about the band. And if you like a band, why wouldn't look for their tour dates?

[OnLettingGo]

I introduce my friends to alot of music. In fact most of the music they listen to I told them about. They don't know anything about the bands but they know the songs and lyrics. And I think that's all they need.

However, I know alot about my favorite bands. There names, past bands ect. I don't think it makes me more of a fan. Just a more informed fan.

[kashleywitha_k]

I appreciate everyone's responses.

To some: I didn't really so much feel like LESS of a music lover. I just didn't know if it was more common than I thought to be a "know it all" about bands...

And as this thread has proven, it is not.

So thank you for chatting about this with me friends!


anytime. glad to help

[Scottt]

i don't know all the names of some members of my favorite bands. like muse, i know matt bellamy, and i think one of the other members i called dominic? that's about it. if a band has been going for 10+ years, then i'd probably bother to find stuff out about them. if they don't have much of a history i'd just wait until things pop up about them and remember it from then.

[FeynmanWannabe]

Sam Beam of Iron & Wine has two daughters - Arden and Ruth.

I am officially Iron & Wine's biggest fan. :-)