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Loserkidwk
08/11/03, 12:33 PM
besides Minor Threat and Anti flag what other bands are sXe?

blaarg
08/11/03, 12:35 PM
lots, the teen idols for one

Greg
08/11/03, 12:36 PM
dont listen to bands just because they may be straight edge. just find bands that you like for their music. who cares if they are sXe.

Loserkidwk
08/11/03, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Greg
dont listen to bands just because they may be straight edge. just find bands that you like for their music. who cares if they are sXe.

im not just gonna listin to them cause thier sXe i was just wonderin

NOFXdesendents5
08/11/03, 12:38 PM
AFI lol hahaha

blaarg
08/11/03, 12:45 PM
wait, the most straight edge band of all time is by far RKL. "beautiful feeling" says it all.

FishAlotNBePunk
08/11/03, 01:18 PM
NOFX is more straight edge than they were 10 years ago.

ShoeSh1ne
08/11/03, 01:27 PM
sXe? :confused:

NOFXdesendents5
08/11/03, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by FishAlotNBePunk
NOFX is more straight edge than they were 10 years ago.

only cause the drummer lol

lifelesslove
08/11/03, 01:33 PM
poison the well is straight-edge....

nostalgia
08/11/03, 01:55 PM
i got a shirt that says straight edge like the thing for snapple. it is so cool. because i am so cool. because i am a loser. because i am an idiot. because i say because alot. because i am bored.

lollirot
08/11/03, 01:57 PM
SS Decontrol, Judge, Ten Yard Fight

worldstheory
08/11/03, 09:27 PM
I don't totally understand what straightedge is. I mean, I know that it means they don't use drugs, but what else does it mean? Is it a style of music? Or just a group? Or can any punk who chooses not to use drugs call him/herself "sXe"?

richter915
08/11/03, 09:31 PM
haha ah man...I thought sXe meant sexy...hahahaha I'm an idiot.

devin
08/11/03, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by Greg
dont listen to bands just because they may be straight edge. just find bands that you like for their music. who cares if they are sXe.

Greg, straight edge is actually a genre. sXe bands just don't happen to not do drugs, they are part of a scene that is stridently anti-drug.

And to the thread starter, basically any band with a hardcore sounding name that tosses and 'x' on both ends is edge.

FishAlotNBePunk
08/11/03, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by NOFXdesendents5
only cause the drummer lol
yeah because Mike said Erik took a bunch of acid one night an spray painted swastikas on a bunch of cars and in the morning they found him sleeping under their van.

xdozex
08/11/03, 09:43 PM
Glassjaw-Daryl Palumbo (vocals) and Justin Beck (guitars)-sXe
Finch-Randy Stroheymer (guitar) and Alex Linares(guitar)-sXe
New Found Glory-Chad Gilbert (guitar)-sXe
Almost ALL of the Orange County bands-sXe
Non-straight edge punk rock guitarist-Priceless

lol haha sorry. Im not making fun of straight-edgers im pretty much one myself.

devin
08/11/03, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by xdozex
lol haha sorry. Im not making fun of straight-edgers im pretty much one myself.

"Pretty much edge" does not exist.

suckerpunch_
08/11/03, 09:47 PM
if you are really intested in sXe...
http://www.mis-one.com/spokenword/viewtopic.php?t=1565

read this and more at the link

Subject: 1. About straight-edge

Straight Edge is a more philosophical offshoot of the punk movement, a
reaction to the hedonism and self-destruction that characterised punk.
The basic tenet of the philosophy centres around the issue of
self-control. The goal is to regain as much personal control over your
own life as possible. sXe is the only youth counter-culture to actively
discourage drug use, alcohol use, and casual sex. [2] [12]

Straight edge is a lifestyle centred around personal development and
well being, while encouraging fun and togetherness. sXe is not just
about being into contemporary punk music acts and being against drugs.
It goes deeper than this. The movement wishes to attract people away
from dependancy lifestyles centred around drug habits (legal or
illegal) and unhealthy and exploitative eating and general living
habits common in modern cultures. sXe is not dogmatic, there are no
hard rules, these are for you to decide. Nobody should dictate like
the police, or preach an ideology like the church or state. [15]

The term itself is believed to have been coined by the band Minor
Threat of the punk rock/hardcore scene in the early '80s. Their singer
Ian MacKaye eschewed the nihilistic tendencies of punk rock, promoting
instead the simple (almost simplistic) philosophy of "don't drink/
don't smoke/ don't fuck." [4]

Out of Step (with the world)
by Minor Threat, 1981 [3]

(I) Don't smoke
Don't drink
Don't fuck
At least I can fucking think

I can't keep up
Can't keep up
Can't keep up
Out of step with the world

In the 12 years since the demise of Minor Threat, these simple beliefs
have transformed the minds of scores of teens worldwide. Increasingly
disenchanted with societal ills, young men and women adopt the
straight-edge doctrine as a blueprint to better first themselves, and
then the world in which they live. While the original definition of
straight-edge only included the rejection of mind altering substances
and promiscuous sex, modern interpretations include a vegetarian (or
vegan) diet and an increasing involvement and awareness of
environmental and political issues. [4]

On 15 Sep 1997 Andy Dempz <adempz@umich!edu> wrote:
"Well... [Ian] might be credited with starting it, but he's made it
abundantly clear he doesn't care for what's it turned into. Read old
Minor Threat interviews, i bet most Earth Crisis fans would be shocked to
hear him say 'it doesn't mean never drink a beer...' Besides, after
watching every "hero" since then fall, from SSD to Youth of Today to
today's flavor of the month, i think worrying about some stranger's
lifestyle in regards to your own is a little silly. I do this for me,
no one else."

On 17 Sep 1997 Andy Dempz <adempz@umich!edu> wrote:
"I mean gees, just listen to what he mumbles in the middle of Out of
Step, 'there's no set of rules, i'm just bringing up three things
that are like so important to the whole world... whether they're
fuckin, or whether they're playing golf.' So maybe golf isn't sxe!"

From a Minor Threat interview in Touch & Go zine:
"Ian: Like Straight Edge, people have taken it to an extreme...as far
as i'm concerned all we did was put out an idea... if people wanna
hear it as preaching if that's what they want. Straight edge to me
is someone who is alert enough to benefit from what he or she is
doing...

"Lyle: the drug and alcohol is only one side of it anyway, it's alot
more than that, there are other things that can sidetrack you...

"Ian: That's what "don't Fuck" means... alot of people think that to
be straight edge you can't drink, smoke, or have sex and that's
silly... what the don't fuck thing is that the whole getting laid
and getting head thing

"Lyle: living for sex

"Ian: following your penis around is fucking people up more than
anything"

the_champ_is_here
08/11/03, 09:47 PM
On a related note, I met this hardline kid the other night, and it got me thinking... Why are sXe kids always more crazy and fucked up then non sXe?

suckerpunch_
08/11/03, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Balderdash
On a related note, I met this hardline kid the other night, and it got me thinking... Why are sXe kids always more crazy and fucked up then non sXe?

cuase they are high on life???

MapleLeaf
08/11/03, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by suckerpunch_
cuase they are high on life???

oh come on. youre obviously the most sxe kid here, you should be able to give us a better explanation.

TimexToxHodder
08/11/03, 09:56 PM
straight edge=No drugs,no alcohol, no Promiscuous sex. When you call yourself straight edge you're making a commitment to yourself. In places like utah I here their edge community is very strict. You call yourself edge you cant break it. People get beat up for breaking their edge.

suckerpunch_
08/11/03, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by MapleLeaf
oh come on. youre obviously the most sxe kid here, you should be able to give us a better explanation.

haha come on you know im not edge

the_champ_is_here
08/11/03, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by TimexToxHodder
straight edge=No drugs,no alcohol, no Promiscuous sex. When you call yourself straight edge you're making a commitment to yourself. In places like utah I here their edge community is very strict. You call yourself edge you cant break it. People get beat up for breaking their edge.

Utah is only edge because 60% of them are mormons.

xdozex
08/11/03, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by devin
"Pretty much edge" does not exist.

Ah..ha..No actually it does. I meant,im not the type to get onto to people because they "arent straight edge enough!". I believe that sXe should be on your own terms,and what makes you feel like a better person and what helps you become a good healthy person. But it gets ridiculous when people like you and the rest of the "Straight Edge Police" nag because it isnt core enough or they think they're an authority on what it truly is. Its stupid,do it for yourself,dont worry about what another person is doing. In saying this,im aware theres people that say "Oh hey im straight edge!" and just wear the title because it makes them feel cool,and go out drinking the same nite. But the jokes on them,they're just looking like an idiot.

What we've learned today class: Labels are fucking retarded.

omegaX
08/11/03, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Balderdash
Utah is only edge because 60% of them are mormons.

Haha that was great. It made me think of that south park episode where everyones in hell:

"Why are we all in hell"- everybody
Satan: "Im sorry. The correct religion was MORMON"
everybody: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

suckerpunch_
08/11/03, 10:07 PM
you cant smoke a cigarettes inside at a hardcore show in winston salem, you will get fucked up

MapleLeaf
08/11/03, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by suckerpunch_
haha come on you know im not edge

and you shoudl know im NOT a moron!

the_champ_is_here
08/11/03, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by omegaX
Haha that was great. It made me think of that south park episode where everyones in hell:

"Why are we all in hell"- everybody
Satan: "Im sorry. The correct religion was MORMON"
everybody: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

It's one of those things, one of the creators of South Park is Mormon(by birth), one is Jewish(by birth). So they just kill those religions.

devin
08/11/03, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by xdozex
Ah..ha..No actually it does. I meant,im not the type to get onto to people because they "arent straight edge enough!". I believe that sXe should be on your own terms,and what makes you feel like a better person and what helps you become a good healthy person. But it gets ridiculous when people like you and the rest of the "Straight Edge Police" nag because it isnt core enough or they think they're an authority on what it truly is. Its stupid,do it for yourself,dont worry about what another person is doing. In saying this,im aware theres people that say "Oh hey im straight edge!" and just wear the title because it makes them feel cool,and go out drinking the same nite. But the jokes on them,they're just looking like an idiot.

What we've learned today class: Labels are fucking retarded.

Actually there is not. Just like you can have your own spirituality, but can't set up your own rules of Catholicism, sXe is something with no gray area. I never identified myself as straight edge, because I never liked aligning myself with any single philosophy or term. So yes, I feel you should make your own decisions to do whatever you like, but don't go around claiming edge. It's something a lot of people take seriously, and people like you degrade that.

FishAlotNBePunk
08/11/03, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by suckerpunch_
if you are really intested in sXe...
http://www.mis-one.com/spokenword/viewtopic.php?t=1565

read this and more at the link

Subject: 1. About straight-edge

Straight Edge is a more philosophical offshoot of the punk movement, a
reaction to the hedonism and self-destruction that characterised punk.
The basic tenet of the philosophy centres around the issue of
self-control. The goal is to regain as much personal control over your
own life as possible. sXe is the only youth counter-culture to actively
discourage drug use, alcohol use, and casual sex. [2] [12]

Straight edge is a lifestyle centred around personal development and
well being, while encouraging fun and togetherness. sXe is not just
about being into contemporary punk music acts and being against drugs.
It goes deeper than this. The movement wishes to attract people away
from dependancy lifestyles centred around drug habits (legal or
illegal) and unhealthy and exploitative eating and general living
habits common in modern cultures. sXe is not dogmatic, there are no
hard rules, these are for you to decide. Nobody should dictate like
the police, or preach an ideology like the church or state. [15]

The term itself is believed to have been coined by the band Minor
Threat of the punk rock/hardcore scene in the early '80s. Their singer
Ian MacKaye eschewed the nihilistic tendencies of punk rock, promoting
instead the simple (almost simplistic) philosophy of "don't drink/
don't smoke/ don't fuck." [4]

Out of Step (with the world)
by Minor Threat, 1981 [3]

(I) Don't smoke
Don't drink
Don't fuck
At least I can fucking think

I can't keep up
Can't keep up
Can't keep up
Out of step with the world

In the 12 years since the demise of Minor Threat, these simple beliefs
have transformed the minds of scores of teens worldwide. Increasingly
disenchanted with societal ills, young men and women adopt the
straight-edge doctrine as a blueprint to better first themselves, and
then the world in which they live. While the original definition of
straight-edge only included the rejection of mind altering substances
and promiscuous sex, modern interpretations include a vegetarian (or
vegan) diet and an increasing involvement and awareness of
environmental and political issues. [4]

On 15 Sep 1997 Andy Dempz <adempz@umich!edu> wrote:
"Well... [Ian] might be credited with starting it, but he's made it
abundantly clear he doesn't care for what's it turned into. Read old
Minor Threat interviews, i bet most Earth Crisis fans would be shocked to
hear him say 'it doesn't mean never drink a beer...' Besides, after
watching every "hero" since then fall, from SSD to Youth of Today to
today's flavor of the month, i think worrying about some stranger's
lifestyle in regards to your own is a little silly. I do this for me,
no one else."

On 17 Sep 1997 Andy Dempz <adempz@umich!edu> wrote:
"I mean gees, just listen to what he mumbles in the middle of Out of
Step, 'there's no set of rules, i'm just bringing up three things
that are like so important to the whole world... whether they're
fuckin, or whether they're playing golf.' So maybe golf isn't sxe!"

From a Minor Threat interview in Touch & Go zine:
"Ian: Like Straight Edge, people have taken it to an extreme...as far
as i'm concerned all we did was put out an idea... if people wanna
hear it as preaching if that's what they want. Straight edge to me
is someone who is alert enough to benefit from what he or she is
doing...

"Lyle: the drug and alcohol is only one side of it anyway, it's alot
more than that, there are other things that can sidetrack you...

"Ian: That's what "don't Fuck" means... alot of people think that to
be straight edge you can't drink, smoke, or have sex and that's
silly... what the don't fuck thing is that the whole getting laid
and getting head thing

"Lyle: living for sex

"Ian: following your penis around is fucking people up more than
anything"

that was cool. i love minor threat.

devin
08/11/03, 10:38 PM
It's all good and well that Ian McKaye feels uncomfortable with inciting this scene, but once you make a song, it's no longer in your power to control its effects. Kids took "Straight Edge" and "Out of Step" as anthems, and if that's the compass they want to follow, that's their business.

FishAlotNBePunk
08/11/03, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by devin
It's all good and well that Ian McKaye feels uncomfortable with inciting this scene, but once you make a song, it's no longer in your power to control its effects. Kids took "Straight Edge" and "Out of Step" as anthems, and if that's the compass they want to follow, that's their business.
yeah, its a disappointment.

I like me some Fugazi as well.

worldstheory
08/11/03, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by xdozex
Glassjaw-Daryl Palumbo (vocals) and Justin Beck (guitars)-sXe
Finch-Randy Stroheymer (guitar) and Alex Linares(guitar)-sXe
New Found Glory-Chad Gilbert (guitar)-sXe

Have these people actually referred to themselves as "straightedge" or are you making the claim because you know something about the way they conduct themselves?

HIPVTENTSL
08/12/03, 05:34 AM
Fall Out Boy, they are sXe

Alex Djaferis
08/12/03, 05:37 AM
teppei, thrice guitarist doesnt drink or smoke.

Clarett'sGreyGoose
08/12/03, 07:48 AM
2 of my best friends decided to go edge after they drank a bottle of vodka together and were both found face down in the one's living room, in a pile of their own vomit, and rushed to the hospital, got their stomachs pumped, and both girls were told they were lucky to be alive.

the_champ_is_here
08/12/03, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by PlaysWithFire
2 of my best friends decided to go edge after they drank a bottle of vodka together and were both found face down in the one's living room, in a pile of their own vomit, and rushed to the hospital, got their stomachs pumped, and both girls were told they were lucky to be alive.

your friends are pussies.

Clarett'sGreyGoose
08/12/03, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by Balderdash
your friends are pussies.

my friends are 5'4, 110 pound girls.

Alex Djaferis
08/12/03, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by PlaysWithFire
2 of my best friends decided to go edge after they drank a bottle of vodka together and were both found face down in the one's living room, in a pile of their own vomit, and rushed to the hospital, got their stomachs pumped, and both girls were told they were lucky to be alive.

damn thats intense.

BleedingMe
08/12/03, 08:52 AM
Aerosmith

siMpleEmOgiRl
08/12/03, 10:21 AM
it's becasue they try to deal with life the "natural" way. AKA no drugs, alcohol, causaul sex. It's screws with their heads. Damn angelic freaks.

J/K I don't know.:D

XPrettyXWasteX
08/12/03, 11:21 AM
I'm straight-edge in the sense that I don't do drugs, drink or have promiscuous sex. but I try not to label myself as sXe because of how serious it's gotten lately. like hateXedge and shit. I dont wanna get myself into anything.

I just think people are makin too big of a deal out of it. if you're sXe, do it for yourself and leave other people alone. And if you're not sXe, leave the edgers alone.

I also agree with devin... i don't think there's any being partly edge or whatever.

SnowintheSummer
08/12/03, 01:29 PM
yea theres definately no part edge lol. i also wanna point out you dont have to be punk to be straight edge i know a really cool guy who doenst listen to any punkish music or anything like that and hes straigh edge

MapleLeaf
08/12/03, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by PlaysWithFire
my friends are 5'4, 110 pound girls.

then your friends are morons

Clarett'sGreyGoose
08/12/03, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by MapleLeaf
then your friends are morons

yea, i had to joke with them to not be an asshole about it. I told them that "it's people like them who make a bad name for underage drinkers everywhere."