View Full Version : Al Sharpton to March for Censorship
Jason Tate
05/01/07, 12:22 PM
Al Sharpton is leading a march (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id= 1003578963) against "profane rap lyrics."
Adrian Villagomez
05/01/07, 12:25 PM
I don't agree with all the profan rap lyrics being used today, but there's no way I will back taking away freedom of speech from an artist. It's a slippery slope, my countrymen.
Drew Beringer
05/01/07, 12:25 PM
yeah right Al, good luck. :rolleyes:
Justin_stacy
05/01/07, 12:25 PM
http://judgesopinion.kcstar.com/files/images/Russell.img_assist_custom.jpg
NJUNDERDOG
05/01/07, 12:28 PM
if people took al sharpton seriously this might actually accomplish something
sell the sunris
05/01/07, 12:31 PM
Hopefully the March ledas right off a cliff. I'm tired of hearing them whine about this. And banning the use of a word? Yeah, that's constitutional.
Branevember31
05/01/07, 12:32 PM
hes ridiculous
Jaynicgurl
05/01/07, 12:34 PM
Someone should lead a march against his hair.
robsmith
05/01/07, 12:36 PM
Someone should lead a march against his hair.
hahha I'll march to that!
watchthesky07
05/01/07, 12:36 PM
Fuck Yeah! Count Me In!
chiodos13
05/01/07, 12:36 PM
Al reallys needs to calm down with crap... Every chance he gets to jump on a black bandwagon he does it... I mean look at the whole Imus thing... you arent MLK bro... back off, relax and enjoy some KFC
CliffLegend
05/01/07, 12:37 PM
Someone should lead a march against his hair.
hahahahaha you totally just made my day.
hendyds88
05/01/07, 12:40 PM
http://judgesopinion.kcstar.com/files/images/Russell.img_assist_custom.jpg
haha nice...
AMPlitudeRadio
05/01/07, 12:41 PM
So he is leading a march on the major record labels but not the artists... WTF? I don't see him stopping off at the hip hop labels or confronting the artists. First of all, for the artists at the majors - for the most part, they are not the problem. I just think this is rediculous and if he wants rappers not to use these lyrics - go to the source... the artists.
blimpcityhero11
05/01/07, 12:42 PM
I don't agree with all the profan rap lyrics being used today, but there's no way I will back taking away freedom of speech from an artist. It's a slippery slope, my countrymen.
Truth.
rufiocardtime
05/01/07, 12:45 PM
it's a shame that people actually give money to support these idiots like al sharpton and jesse jackson. all these issues are completely retarded on so many levels that i'm left with just a blank stare.
it's a little unrelated, but i always think of trisha takanawa and david bowie when i hear about shit like this.
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How about this douchebag media whore calls out a SPECIFIC rapper and tries to get him taken off his record label.
After all, he called out Imus specifically.
Hypocritical jackass.
Praetor
05/01/07, 12:51 PM
http://judgesopinion.kcstar.com/files/images/Russell.img_assist_custom.jpg
Bwahaha.
relientj428
05/01/07, 12:55 PM
al sharpton is ridiculous. i wish there was something to do about the profane rap lyrics or at least their impact on the mainstream music world....but i would never call to have free speech banned.
s.t.e.v.e.n.
05/01/07, 01:06 PM
Al Sharpton is a joke.
took the words right out of my mouth
Throw some d's on that bitch...
that's nice.
Fades2Black
05/01/07, 01:10 PM
He's just making himself feel better for getting IMUS fired. We all know your really black, give it a fucking rest jackass. While i do feel that censoring music is an almighty crime, i also think that rappers do need to clean their shit up cause lets just face it, its not even fucking music anymore and its getting old real fast. I mean how the hell are u gonna fire IMUS just for making a small joke, but then let all these so called rappers talk about shit WAY worse than what don imus said
captainamazing4
05/01/07, 01:13 PM
Al lives in his own little world. Seriously, this is the dumbest idea in the world.
FREE SPEECH MUHH FUCKA
weworemasks
05/01/07, 01:22 PM
He's just making himself feel better for getting IMUS fired. We all know your really black, give it a fucking rest jackass.
[DOUBLE STANDARD]While i do feel that censoring music is an almighty crime, i also think that rappers do need to clean their shit up [/double standard]
cause lets just face it, its not even fucking music anymore and its getting old real fast. I mean how the hell are u gonna fire IMUS just for making a small joke, but then let all these so called rappers talk about shit WAY worse than what don imus said
by reading your post, i'm 94% sure you are a racist and an idiot. there's a huge difference in calling a team of predominantly black females "nappy-headed hoes" on a live broadcast on a major us network, vs saying anything similar on an "artists" record which probably has a parental advisory sticker for some shitty lyrics. granted, some of the things said on records from any genre are far worse than what imus said, it's just a matter of time and place.
and either way, sharpton will get nowhere. sup first amendment.
underthetalking
05/01/07, 01:28 PM
Throw some d's on that bitch...
that's nice.
You mean, "Throw some d's on that fine young lady..."
candleguy1142
05/01/07, 01:31 PM
fucking bitch-ass ho niggah! awww skeet skeet..
NonOperational
05/01/07, 01:44 PM
by reading your post, i'm 94% sure you are a racist and an idiot. there's a huge difference in calling a team of predominantly black females "nappy-headed hoes" on a live broadcast on a major us network, vs saying anything similar on an "artists" record which probably has a parental advisory sticker for some shitty lyrics. granted, some of the things said on records from any genre are far worse than what imus said, it's just a matter of time and place.
and either way, sharpton will get nowhere. sup first amendment.
everyone is racist to a degree as well as hypocritical.
relientj428
05/01/07, 02:27 PM
everyone is racist to a degree as well as hypocritical.
i guess i can agree that we can all be hypocritical to a degree....but racist? i hope not.
Jaynicgurl
05/01/07, 02:50 PM
hahahahaha you totally just made my day.
Anytime. =)
For reals....I wonder what's lurking in that thing.....I think we found Osama Bin Laden...
kylekillspeople
05/01/07, 02:52 PM
good. people are going to say what they say, but with a little pressure from prominent social leaders, this could be great. maybe we'll see a hip hop rennaisance and rap music will go back to actually meaning something other than "bumpin uggs" with "hoes" and "riding dirty" with all sorts of "ice" and "bling".
Suprhatch614
05/01/07, 03:01 PM
al sharpton is a is a profiteer and a pimp. what an awful plight for people to have to be associated with him.
katot0n1c
05/01/07, 03:17 PM
i guess i can agree that we can all be hypocritical to a degree....but racist? i hope not.
He probably means prejudice, whether people like it or not we all make negative associations. A story about Jesse Jackson that slipped where he said something to the extent that he was walking alone at night in a major city and saw a few guys coming up behind him quickly and he got nervous but as soon as they came under the streetlight and he could see they were white he breathed a sigh of relief.
Statistics show that the probability of being mugged in a black neighborhood is higher than that of a white neighborhood, even if it's a trailer park. I should know, I live in a white neighborhood in Milwaukee on campus and the blacks come here to mug us, happens all the time and it's on the news all the time, I've witnessed a mugging and a car jacking and they were both black. I delivered pizzas to trailer parks (latino) and ghettos and my co-workers had all been mugged about once each in ghettos but averaged $3 tips in the trailer parks.
Does adhering to statistical data and probability make you a racist??
Answer: Only in the United States.
Fades2Black
05/01/07, 04:32 PM
by reading your post, i'm 94% sure you are a racist and an idiot. there's a huge difference in calling a team of predominantly black females "nappy-headed hoes" on a live broadcast on a major us network, vs saying anything similar on an "artists" record which probably has a parental advisory sticker for some shitty lyrics. granted, some of the things said on records from any genre are far worse than what imus said, it's just a matter of time and place.
and either way, sharpton will get nowhere. sup first amendment.
Um yeah first of all bro, you dont fucking know me, so dont even think u can call me racist or an idiot you peice of shit. There a thousands of people who feel and think the EXACT same way that i do on the IMUS subject and that sure as hell dosent make me or them racists you fuck. I dunno who the hell u think you are, but im 94.5% sure that u seriously need to go suck a fat one. Keep your retarted statments to urself bitch. thanks.
PierceTheVeil
05/01/07, 04:33 PM
He probably means prejudice, whether people like it or not we all make negative associations. A story about Jesse Jackson that slipped where he said something to the extent that he was walking alone at night in a major city and saw a few guys coming up behind him quickly and he got nervous but as soon as they came under the streetlight and he could see they were white he breathed a sigh of relief.
Statistics show that the probability of being mugged in a black neighborhood is higher than that of a white neighborhood, even if it's a trailer park. I should know, I live in a white neighborhood in Milwaukee on campus and the blacks come here to mug us, happens all the time and it's on the news all the time, I've witnessed a mugging and a car jacking and they were both black. I delivered pizzas to trailer parks (latino) and ghettos and my co-workers had all been mugged about once each in ghettos but averaged $3 tips in the trailer parks.
Does adhering to statistical data and probability make you a racist??
Answer: Only in the United States.
You're totally wrong on this.
What you're basically saying is that the actions of a few black individuals is the exact same actions of an ENTIRE race.
If a black guy mugged me (has never happened and I live In Southern California)
Then I would have a problem with A black guy, not the WHOLE black race.
Oh, because there is certainly nothing else he could be focused on. Racism is dead and gone in America, obviously.
leftstranded
05/01/07, 07:10 PM
ok. let's ban everything
great move
weworemasks
05/01/07, 07:23 PM
Um yeah first of all bro, you dont fucking know me, so dont even think u can call me racist or an idiot you peice of shit. There a thousands of people who feel and think the EXACT same way that i do on the IMUS subject and that sure as hell dosent make me or them racists you fuck. I dunno who the hell u think you are, but im 94.5% sure that u seriously need to go suck a fat one. Keep your retarted statments to urself bitch. thanks.
"there a thousands of people who feel the same way." fucking idiot. thousands of germans felt the same way about the jewish people, and it led to a mass genocide. excellent argument.
hahahahahaha. you are 21? wow. who let you have a computer? fucking tool.
rufiocardtime
05/01/07, 07:26 PM
you guys are fucking retarded.
i hate most white people and i am white, so in short i could say "i hate white people".
does that make me a racist?
of course it doesn't.
so then if i said, "i hate blacks." would that make me a racist?
of course it would.
do you see the incongruity? i don't say "i hate blacks" because i know what idiots like you guys and al sharpton and jesse jackson would conjure up. but it wouldn't replace the fact that i've had really good/close black friends.
i think most men are stupid. and i also think most women are stupid.
but if i said, "women are fucking idiots." many people would gladly call me a sexist.
who gives a shit though? fuck people and fuck you too.
weworemasks
05/01/07, 07:27 PM
He probably means prejudice, whether people like it or not we all make negative associations. A story about Jesse Jackson that slipped where he said something to the extent that he was walking alone at night in a major city and saw a few guys coming up behind him quickly and he got nervous but as soon as they came under the streetlight and he could see they were white he breathed a sigh of relief.
Statistics show that the probability of being mugged in a black neighborhood is higher than that of a white neighborhood, even if it's a trailer park. I should know, I live in a white neighborhood in Milwaukee on campus and the blacks come here to mug us, happens all the time and it's on the news all the time, I've witnessed a mugging and a car jacking and they were both black. I delivered pizzas to trailer parks (latino) and ghettos and my co-workers had all been mugged about once each in ghettos but averaged $3 tips in the trailer parks.
Does adhering to statistical data and probability make you a racist??
Answer: Only in the United States.
for your information, racism is a belief/ideology. you can't base racism off of "facts" and "statistics." don't try to find excuses to blanket your racism, piece of shit.
relientj428
05/01/07, 08:00 PM
for your information, racism is a belief/ideology. you can't base racism off of "facts" and "statistics." don't try to find excuses to blanket your racism, piece of shit.
well said. anyone who is going to judge an entire race based on the actions of one (or many, for that matter) is just plain racist. all the stats in the world don't justify that.
katot0n1c
05/01/07, 08:13 PM
for your information, racism is a belief/ideology. you can't base racism off of "facts" and "statistics." don't try to find excuses to blanket your racism, piece of shit.
Looks like I irked you, wouldn't expect anything less from this site. However, I LIVE next to a ghetto, why don't you come down to my neighborhood, the next one over (about 1 mile or less) has one of the highest murder rates per capita (and is 89% black) but I suppose you would believe it's the other 11% (who are Latino anyway) who are committing the crimes. Look, I'm not picking on Blacks, I wouldn't care if it was Whites or Asians, people have to be held to account and stop looking for scapegoats.
If you ever had advanced diversity training (UWM graduate in human communications) you would know that such associations and are inherent within all people and it's how our brains arrange and make sense of information, when you let one person's actions influence your entire perceptions of a race (to address my other critic) than you land on one side of the extreme and become a racist, when you believe something in lieu of statistical data, personal experiences (plural, in my case almost daily) and choose instead to believe it's the fault of others and not the responsibility of the culture in question, you become a self-loathing flaming liberal. Referencing statistical data was just an example, math can't lie and it doesn't tell the whole story, but when we have a prison rate that has upwards of 60% blacks and in the civilian population comprise 10%, you want to blame what racism???
In India far more people live much further below the poverty experienced in the ghetto and have 1/10 the crime rate (if that, I'm being generous, per capita of course), so what would you like to blame....slavery? Unless you are far more intelligent than you have made yourself out to be, I don't see a point in responding more than I already have, you are clearly a very emotional person.
I would have left out the names, but you did call me a piece of shit, so I'm just returning the favor...lol.
PierceTheVeil
05/01/07, 08:22 PM
Looks like I irked you, wouldn't expect anything less from this site. However, I LIVE next to a ghetto, why don't you come down to my neighborhood, the next one over (about 1 mile or less) has one of the highest murder rates per capita (and is 89% black) but I suppose you would believe it's the other 11% (who are Latino anyway) who are committing the crimes. Look, I'm not picking on Blacks, I wouldn't care if it was Whites or Asians, people have to be held to account and stop looking for scapegoats.
If you ever had advanced diversity training (UWM graduate in human communications) you would know that such associations and are inherent within all people and it's how are brains arrange and make sense of information, when you let one person's actions influence your entire perceptions of a race (to address my other critic) than you land on one side of the extreme and become a racist, when you believe something in lieu of statistical data, personal experiences (plural, in my case almost daily) and choose instead to believe it's the fault of others and not the responsibility of the culture in question, you become a self-loathing flaming liberal. Referencing statistical data was just an example, math can't lie and it doesn't tell the whole story, but when we have a prison rate that has 80% blacks and in the civilian population comprise 10%, you want to blame what racism???
In India far more people live much further below the poverty experienced in the ghetto, so what would you like to blame....slavery? Unless you are far more intelligent than you have made yourself out to be, I don't see a point in responding more than I already have, you are clearly a very emotional person.
I would have left out the names, but you did call me a piece of shit, so I'm just returning the favor...lol.
You are a fucking idiot.
GTFO
Fucking biggot.
katot0n1c
05/01/07, 08:22 PM
You're totally wrong on this.
What you're basically saying is that the actions of a few black individuals is the exact same actions of an ENTIRE race.
If a black guy mugged me (has never happened and I live In Southern California)
Then I would have a problem with A black guy, not the WHOLE black race.
Totally agree with you, I must not have presented my information correctly. I'm not retracting, and I don't want to elaborate as it seems to be pissing people off (touchy subject, totally understandable), but that's not what I meant at all.
katot0n1c
05/01/07, 08:25 PM
You are a fucking idiot.
GTFO
Fucking biggot.
Lol, I rest my case your honor, nothing further.
On a side note...thank you for your insightful retort, nicely worded and you have done much to convince people of your point.
I also wonder why in a thread about Al Sharpton it's appropriate to post a You Tube clip that has an Asian female humping a white guy's leg and you didn't have a problem with that even though it's completely unrelated to the topic and more degrading than anything I could have said. Seems like "selective racism" best personifies your character. How could you miss it?? Why doesn't that bother you??
There are plenty of things about white culture that but the hell out of me too, but your not interested in that, just what I think of blacks right? I tell you what, I'll extend a challenge since your so bright and "pure" I'll take a stroll down my block, and you can go down Center and Cherry street (guarantee you will make it about 1 block) and we'll compare experiences afterward, well you...me...and the cherry street mob. That's all I was driving at, it's not racist to make basic presumptions based on credible information....stop living in your bubble.....blacks and whites alike love people like you here, it's one of the things that brings us all together.
weworemasks
05/02/07, 12:15 AM
Looks like I irked you, wouldn't expect anything less from this site. However, I LIVE next to a ghetto, why don't you come down to my neighborhood, the next one over (about 1 mile or less) has one of the highest murder rates per capita (and is 89% black) but I suppose you would believe it's the other 11% (who are Latino anyway) who are committing the crimes. Look, I'm not picking on Blacks, I wouldn't care if it was Whites or Asians, people have to be held to account and stop looking for scapegoats.
If you ever had advanced diversity training (UWM graduate in human communications) you would know that such associations and are inherent within all people and it's how our brains arrange and make sense of information, when you let one person's actions influence your entire perceptions of a race (to address my other critic) than you land on one side of the extreme and become a racist, when you believe something in lieu of statistical data, personal experiences (plural, in my case almost daily) and choose instead to believe it's the fault of others and not the responsibility of the culture in question, you become a self-loathing flaming liberal. Referencing statistical data was just an example, math can't lie and it doesn't tell the whole story, but when we have a prison rate that has 80% blacks and in the civilian population comprise 10%, you want to blame what racism???
In India far more people live much further below the poverty experienced in the ghetto and have 1/10 the crime rate (if that, I'm being generous, per capita of course), so what would you like to blame....slavery? Unless you are far more intelligent than you have made yourself out to be, I don't see a point in responding more than I already have, you are clearly a very emotional person.
I would have left out the names, but you did call me a piece of shit, so I'm just returning the favor...lol.
so basically, you still base your personal racism off of your statistics and data analysis, which you learned through obtaining a degree in human communications, which is fine by me, because i can't and won't try to change that. i personally believe that it's bullshit, which also, is an opinion i'm entitled to.
i honestly have no problem accepting your facts and the little presentation you just gave me, because it is all valid information and i'm sure it checks out, but it still doesn't justify bigotry and racism in my eyes.
and seriously. please don't sit on the internet and invite me to your "ghetto." i live in houston, which is a metroplex and has it's fair share of "the ghetto." and seeing as how i used to live in one, i realize the statistical data that comes with a territory, and like i said, i do not believe in hating an entire race for the actions of 100-150 african american males that may have committed a crime or two in my neighborhood.
above all, i dont need advanced diversity training, or feel the need to casually drop my education level into a conversation, to come to these conclusions. have a nice day.
katot0n1c
05/02/07, 12:25 AM
so basically, you still base your personal racism off of your statistics and data analysis, which you learned through obtaining a degree in human communications, which is fine by me, because i can't and won't try to change that. i personally believe that it's bullshit, which also, is an opinion i'm entitled to.
i honestly have no problem accepting your facts and the little presentation you just gave me, because it is all valid information and i'm sure it checks out, but it still doesn't justify bigotry and racism in my eyes.
and seriously. please don't sit on the internet and invite me to your "ghetto." i live in houston, which is a metroplex and has it's fair share of "the ghetto." and seeing as how i used to live in one, i realize the statistical data that comes with a territory, and like i said, i do not believe in hating an entire race for the actions of 100-150 african american males that may have committed a crime or two in my neighborhood.
above all, i dont need advanced diversity training, or feel the need to casually drop my education level into a conversation, to come to these conclusions. have a nice day.
Okay, so you accept my facts, have first hand experience, are willing to concede certain things and omit irrelevant ones like my "claim" that I am a college grad......how am I racist piece of shit? Where did this come from??? What part of my post is racist....moreover...where do you justify calling me a piece of shit even if your basic assertion is even somewhat true? Which for the record, it is not. I have no idea how you arrived at this conclusion based on my post.
Furthermore, I never invited YOU to my ghetto, I was addressing "pierce the veil", NM --that was a hypothetical situation I used to emphasis my point, it wasn't meant as a insult, and it wasn't a legitimate invitation, I thought that would be self-evident.
Um yeah, I will give you that I shouldn't have mentioned anything about my education level, or talked about diversity training...that I will admit....don't really know why I brought that up.
Seriously, nobody benefits from people denying what it clear as day to everybody and looking the other way because of some guilt-complex. You really think this strategy is beneficial to blacks or whites...or anybody? I can't make a simple statement online that is factual and relevant without being called a racist, seriously, look what this thread has become from such a simple statement. Milwaukee city mayor Tom Barrett is considering calling in the national guard to police the inner-city here but hey....let's just pretend there is no problem and it will go away.
My guess is you don't understand it now, but hopefully you will later, my comments were not meant to be inflammatory but they obviously were interpreted that way, but the second I apologize or retract I become just like the people who just attacked me, too scared to make a simple factual statement...and here you guys are pretending like your worried about people's rights and feelings and you try to come on here and shut me down and resort to name calling...flawed logic.
You guys want equality for all people right...try treating all people like they are people, and stop babying and coddling "select" races, this conversation would not be happening if this were about Asians, Canadians (just for fun) or Muslims. Give black people some goddamn credit and stop rushing to defend them every time someone says "I don't like Rap music" -- So frickin' what??? "Black people like KFC" --so frickin what?? but that was actually said on this thread....you don't think that's racist, but my comment was?? My comment was based on fact, KFC was a hasty generalization and a blanket statement....address that for the love of god.
rufiocardtime
05/02/07, 01:05 AM
I also wonder why in a thread about Al Sharpton it's appropriate to post a You Tube clip that has an Asian female humping a white guy's leg and you didn't have a problem with that even though it's completely unrelated to the topic and more degrading than anything I could have said. Seems like "selective racism" best personifies your character. How could you miss it?? Why doesn't that bother you??
that was me, you dumbass, not the guy that you quoted.
katot0n1c
05/02/07, 01:20 AM
that was me, you dumbass, not the guy that you quoted.
Jesus, yes I know, you dumbass, I was asking him why your video didn't bother him but my comment did, for the record I wasn't offended by the video. Reading is your friend.
Linky for ya: http://www.starfall.com/
Frequency
05/02/07, 05:05 AM
I agree that Al Sharpton is a joke.
Fades2Black
05/02/07, 09:00 AM
"there a thousands of people who feel the same way." fucking idiot. thousands of germans felt the same way about the jewish people, and it led to a mass genocide. excellent argument.
hahahahahaha. you are 21? wow. who let you have a computer? fucking tool.
wow you must REALLY be digging deep, did i hurt your feelings? listen you fuck this thread dosent have a damn thing to do with germans, jews, or genocide, wrong subject there buddy. this is about al sharpton being an annoying prick so i suggest you get off his nuts. I know your really trying your best to look witty and cool, but all ur little jokes arnt funny and you sound like a giant douche bag. Oh and yeah im 21, glad you have some reading skills, what the fuck is it to you?? Maybe ill just go to the bar and get a couple of beers you jackass
(http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=douche+bag&spell=1)
rufiocardtime
05/02/07, 09:56 AM
Jesus, yes I know, you dumbass, I was asking him why your video didn't bother him but my comment did, for the record I wasn't offended by the video. Reading is your friend.
Linky for ya: http://www.starfall.com/
it makes sense now that i just read all your other petty bickering along with it and was able to go back and put the comments about trisha takanawa back into context. i apologize for not having the patience to read through post after post of pointless fluff in order to do this in the first place.
but reading more of your writing makes me think you're a bigger dumbass than i initially concluded.
katswansey
05/02/07, 09:59 AM
by reading your post, i'm 94% sure you are a racist and an idiot. there's a huge difference in calling a team of predominantly black females "nappy-headed hoes" on a live broadcast on a major us network, vs saying anything similar on an "artists" record which probably has a parental advisory sticker for some shitty lyrics. granted, some of the things said on records from any genre are far worse than what imus said, it's just a matter of time and place.
and either way, sharpton will get nowhere. sup first amendment.
should have known you'd be all over this shit, roshan.
katswansey
05/02/07, 10:02 AM
Um yeah first of all bro, you dont fucking know me, so dont even think u can call me racist or an idiot you peice of shit. There a thousands of people who feel and think the EXACT same way that i do on the IMUS subject and that sure as hell dosent make me or them racists you fuck. I dunno who the hell u think you are, but im 94.5% sure that u seriously need to go suck a fat one. Keep your retarted statments to urself bitch. thanks.
who the fuck are you to call people names? that's my best friend you're talking shit to, and I assure you he's not "a piece of shit." he never once claimed to know you in the post he made. stop jumping to conclusions. the post you made DID make you look racist. if you don't want people to think you're racist then think about what you say before you say it. or better yet, edit your post and quit your fuckin' whining. seriously, 21? grow up.
PierceTheVeil
05/02/07, 10:28 AM
Jesus, yes I know, you dumbass, I was asking him why your video didn't bother him but my comment did, for the record I wasn't offended by the video. Reading is your friend.
Linky for ya: http://www.starfall.com/
I was on my sidekick yesterday like I am right now, therefore I didn't see any youtube video, its simply text in the mobile version of ap.net
Furthermore you're still a dumbass close minded racist that blames an entire human race (millions if not, billions) on the actions of a few bad apples in your neighborhood.
Word to your mother wise guy,
The entire african race doesn't live in your ghetto, just a few bad apples like yourself.
Chevy114
05/02/07, 11:10 AM
I can see where it is offensive, but parents need to do a better job of monitoring what their kids do. My mom wouldn't let me buy music with bad things on it until I was old enough to realize it was fantasy and you can't shot cops, smack women around, or rule the world. Its like video games, the violent ones have high raitings on them so its your fault if your kid plays it or continues to play it if he barrows it or steals it.
LilRyan732
05/02/07, 12:51 PM
I wish I was the fuckin civil rights leader.
Black leaders like Sharpton should realize, it's not the lyrics that need banning, is the major stations like BET and MTV that need to stop playing the shit! I mean you don't see profane rock videos (Headbangers Ball, for example, until 10pms on a Saturday) all over the mainstream. For the most part they're clean and need minimal edits.
katot0n1c
05/02/07, 02:16 PM
I was on my sidekick yesterday like I am right now, therefore I didn't see any youtube video, its simply text in the mobile version of ap.net
Furthermore you're still a dumbass close minded racist that blames an entire human race (millions if not, billions) on the actions of a few bad apples in your neighborhood.
Word to your mother wise guy,
The entire african race doesn't live in your ghetto, just a few bad apples like yourself.
I already addressed this rant in another post, this is completely redundant, and if you check the stats your "a few bad apples" theory doesn't pan out, although I agree with the moral message in the theory. Go back and read my post where I addressed this, I'm getting sick of people not reading my entire posts.
You guys running around and branding people "racists" need to understand what the word means before you assign it to somebody. While my posts may have offended someone, it does not make me a racist and it was not meant to offend even if you mistakenly interpreted it that way.
You use this term as the basis of your argument because it invokes human emotion and immediately serves to discredit the person you attacking, a simple yet effective attack "ad hominem" works in forums like these but indicates to me that you don't have a leg to stand on since you never addressed what I said, and it still has yet to be addressed to this very post, you instead immediately attacked me and lured in the guys like the one who couldn't even read my post before resorting to calling me a dumb ass and not to mention posted a potentially offensive video that had no relevance to the thread whatsoever but feels I am racist....here's a hint to that guy, maybe don't post your picture in your avatar if you are struggling to achieve literacy or basic reading comprehension.
If any of the people I am engaging in the "conversation" aren't old enough to buy beer please let me know in your next post as I fear I am arguing with high school students and won't bother responding next time. This way you can save face, post again, and you can tell you friends at "recess" or whatever that you won a battle of wits in an internet forum.
PierceTheVeil
05/02/07, 03:39 PM
I already addressed this rant in another post, this is completely redundant, and if you check the stats your "a few bad apples" theory doesn't pan out, although I agree with the moral message in the theory. Go back and read my post where I addressed this, I'm getting sick of people not reading my entire posts.
You guys running around and branding people "racists" need to understand what the word means before you assign it to somebody. While my posts may have offended someone, it does not make me a racist and it was not meant to offend even if you mistakenly interpreted it that way.
You use this term as the basis of your argument because it invokes human emotion and immediately serves to discredit the person you attacking, a simple yet effective attack "ad hominem" works in forums like these but indicates to me that you don't have a leg to stand on since you never addressed what I said, and it still has yet to be addressed to this very post, you instead immediately attacked me and lured in the guys like the one who couldn't even read my post before resorting to calling me a dumb ass and not to mention posted a potentially offensive video that had no relevance to the thread whatsoever but feels I am racist....here's a hint to that guy, maybe don't post your picture in your avatar if you are struggling to achieve literacy or basic reading comprehension.
If any of the people I am engaging in the "conversation" aren't old enough to buy beer please let me know in your next post as I fear I am arguing with high school students and won't bother responding next time. This way you can save face, post again, and you can tell you friends at "recess" or whatever that you won a battle of wits in an internet forum.
I was simply answering your question about why that video didn't offend me, and you seem to need me to repeat myself, so...once again, I'm on a s-i-d-e-k-i-c-k, incase you didn't know that's a phone with a web browser so the video didn't show up so I didn't get offended, coz the video never showed up, UNDERSTAND ?!
&AGAIN racism is based on beliefs
NOT "facts" so stick your statistics up your candy ass and know your role you fucking tool.
Your ignorance is limitless.
katot0n1c
05/02/07, 03:55 PM
I was simply answering your question about why that video didn't offend me, and you seem to need me to repeat myself, so...once again, I'm on a s-i-d-e-k-i-c-k, incase you didn't know that's a phone with a web browser so the video didn't show up so I didn't get offended, coz the video never showed up, UNDERSTAND ?!
&AGAIN racism is based on beliefs
NOT "facts" so stick your statistics up your candy ass and know your role you fucking tool.
Your ignorance is limitless.
WOW, I didn't ask you AGAIN why you didn't find the video offensive, yet another useless post from you. AND STILL you have yet to tell me what I said that signaled to you that I'm a racist. AND AGAIN with the name calling, is this what I've reduced you to? You can't get out a single coherent reply?
For the record I'm not posting because I'm concerned that I'm a racist, you do more to insure the oppression of others than most "racists" actually do via denying that these problems exists and moving to silence and discredit anyone who disagrees with you.
Is this your definition of a racist? Anyone who doesn't harbor the same opinion as you? You can have a rational discussion without losing your cool after one post? That speaks volumes about your credibility, far more than your personal attacks to discredit me.
I'm going to go on record and ask if there are any black people in this forum who I have legitimately offended, pm me and we can talk or just post I will respond. Any more white boys from the suburbs whose premature exit from the HSED program was the pinnacle of their self actualization and who loath their own existence and lash out because they don't understand the dynamic of contemporary racial issues in the U.S. and utterly refuse to have a rational discussion about it.....well.....I can only repeat myself so many times until you lower me to your level and then beat me with experience.
FYI - the point of these discussions shouldn't be about winning or losing, or converting people to your point of view, but rather talking about the issues and sharing information, but clearly that is an impossible feat with my fan base here.
PierceTheVeil
05/02/07, 04:18 PM
WOW, I didn't ask you AGAIN why you didn't find the video offensive, yet another useless post from you. AND STILL you have yet to tell me what I said that signaled to you that I'm a racist. AND AGAIN with the name calling, is this what I've reduced you to? You can't get out a single coherent reply?
For the record I'm not posting because I'm concerned that I'm a racist, you do more to insure the oppression of others than most "racists" actually do via denying that these problems exists and moving to silence and discredit anyone who disagrees with you.
Is this your definition of a racist? Anyone who doesn't harbor the same opinion as you? You can have a rational discussion without losing your cool after one post? That speaks volumes about your credibility, far more than your personal attacks to discredit me.
I'm going to go on record and ask if there are any black people in this forum who I have legitimately offended, pm me and we can talk or just post I will respond. Any more white boys from the suburbs whose premature exit from the HSED program was the pinnacle of their self actualization and who loath their own existence and lash out because they don't understand the dynamic of contemporary racial issues in the U.S. and utterly refuse to have a rational discussion about it.....well.....I can only repeat myself so many times until you lower me to your level and then beat me with experience.
FYI - the point of these discussions shouldn't be about winning or losing, or converting people to your point of view, but rather talking about the issues and sharing information, but clearly that is an impossible feat with my fan base here.
Well next time make it clear that you understand.
What lead me to believe you're pretty much an ignorant racist was your retarded argument you first stated that said "all blacks should be feared, I got mugged in the ghetto", well duh, of course you got mugged, you live in the GHETTO, don't let that skew your view on the whole african american race.
&the name calling is just funny when I come back to read my posts :P haha
PierceTheVeil
05/02/07, 04:20 PM
WOW, I didn't ask you AGAIN why you didn't find the video offensive, yet another useless post from you. AND STILL you have yet to tell me what I said that signaled to you that I'm a racist. AND AGAIN with the name calling, is this what I've reduced you to? You can't get out a single coherent reply?
For the record I'm not posting because I'm concerned that I'm a racist, you do more to insure the oppression of others than most "racists" actually do via denying that these problems exists and moving to silence and discredit anyone who disagrees with you.
Is this your definition of a racist? Anyone who doesn't harbor the same opinion as you? You can have a rational discussion without losing your cool after one post? That speaks volumes about your credibility, far more than your personal attacks to discredit me.
I'm going to go on record and ask if there are any black people in this forum who I have legitimately offended, pm me and we can talk or just post I will respond. Any more white boys from the suburbs whose premature exit from the HSED program was the pinnacle of their self actualization and who loath their own existence and lash out because they don't understand the dynamic of contemporary racial issues in the U.S. and utterly refuse to have a rational discussion about it.....well.....I can only repeat myself so many times until you lower me to your level and then beat me with experience.
FYI - the point of these discussions shouldn't be about winning or losing, or converting people to your point of view, but rather talking about the issues and sharing information, but clearly that is an impossible feat with my fan base here.
Well next time make it clear that you understand.
What lead me to believe you're pretty much an ignorant racist was your retarded argument you first stated that said "all blacks should be feared, I got mugged in the ghetto", well duh, of course you got mugged, you live in the GHETTO, don't let that skew your view on the whole african american race, not all blacks mug everyone in sight, I don't give a fuck what your statistics say, I should know one of my best friends is african american.
Question answered.
&the name calling is just funny when I come back to read my posts :P haha
katot0n1c
05/02/07, 05:01 PM
Well next time make it clear that you understand.
What lead me to believe you're pretty much an ignorant racist was your retarded argument you first stated that said "all blacks should be feared, I got mugged in the ghetto", well duh, of course you got mugged, you live in the GHETTO, don't let that skew your view on the whole african american race, not all blacks mug everyone in sight, I don't give a fuck what your statistics say, I should know one of my best friends is african american.
Question answered.
&the name calling is just funny when I come back to read my posts :P haha
I NEVER said all blacks should be feared at any point, you inferred that, and incorrectly. I find it odd that that's the conclusion you jumped to based on my post, as if it was lingering somewhere in your sub-conscious, maybe those are your thoughts, but not mine.
"Next time make it clear"??...in other words you went back, read the posts, realized your mistake, and decided to attack me again to cover up your errors. Word of advice, one of my other critics already did that, you are just reiterating what has already been said and done.
As far as the rest of your post goes, as far as you and I are concerned I've clearly gotten as much out of our exchanges from you as I'm going to so I consider this matter closed, you may now post again to get last word in and I'll move on, there is nothing left to say, it's futile at this point.
FYI, "One of my best friends is African American" is a punchline black comedians do to expose closet racists, like if you have a black friend, it's salvation from being white and you can't qualify as a racist, I find it hard to believe that you have a computer but no television.
FYI "One of my best friends is African American" as basis that no blacks are muggers because your friend isn't is what's referred to in intercultural communications as a "hasty generalization" that is used typically to discredit racist points of view, but in this case the other way around. You base your assertion on 1 case in lieu of overwhelming statistical and factual data, which is what's referred to in the real world as "mentally retarded", or to be nice, "illogical." In logic it looks something like this: Person x is blue, Person x is not a mugger, All blue people are not muggers. This is what's referred to in logic as invalidating instance because we have insufficient evidence from which to proceed, it's not a sound argument.
FYI black people in our age group prefer to be called "Black" and not "African American" and if you had a "black" friend you would probably know that even though your benevolence suggests otherwise. The older black demographic prefers the term "African American" and it is the official publicly acceptable term, though you might want to check the internet next week as it seems to change at least a few times a month.
But here, let me do you a favor and write out your next reply for you......
"No, fuck you, you're a racist!!" Yeah, brilliant.
Fades2Black
05/03/07, 01:02 PM
who the fuck are you to call people names? that's my best friend you're talking shit to, and I assure you he's not "a piece of shit." he never once claimed to know you in the post he made. stop jumping to conclusions. the post you made DID make you look racist. if you don't want people to think you're racist then think about what you say before you say it. or better yet, edit your post and quit your fuckin' whining. seriously, 21? grow up.
oh no look out, he's got firends.. and better yet a best firend :clap:
hilarious..please mind your own buisness girl
katswansey
05/03/07, 07:02 PM
oh no look out, he's got firends.. and better yet a best firend :clap:
hilarious..please mind your own buisness girl
yeah, he probably has more than you.
and I'm sorry. maybe I misunderstood the meaning of a message board. but as far as I know, as long as there is a "quote" button, I can butt into whoevers conversation I want to.
glad we're clear on that!
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