Players you would hate to learn are or were roiders:

[cantnokdahustle]

So, which three players would you be truly upset to learn that they used roids, I mean like devastation:

1) Ken Griffey Jr.
2) David Ortiz
3) Eric Chavez/ Vlad Guerrero


Are there any that you might welcome the news that they, without a doubt, intentionally roided. I.e. dudes you just hate:

1) Mcsteroid
2) Jeff Kent
3) Bonds, Clemens and Schilling

obviously keep these pretty contemporary.

[nfggc10]

So, which three players would you be truly upset to learn that they used roids, I mean like devastation:

1) Ken Griffey Jr.
2) Greg Maddux
3) Tony Gwynn


Are there any that you might welcome the news that they, without a doubt, intentionally roided. I.e. dudes you just hate:

1) Bonds, obviously
2) Albert Belle
3) Sosa

[we are cured]

mcsteroid...lol. i laughed.

for me it would be bobby bonilla, not because i liked him but because he always had that shit-eating grin on his face.

[preppyak]

I want someone tiny...an Ichiro or someone like that...just because of the hilarity that would ensue. Nobody would trust anyone

[nfggc10]

mcsteroid...lol. i laughed.

for me it would be bobby bonilla, not because i liked him but because he always had that shit-eating grin on his face.bonilla is a good choice

[Smithers]

definitely big papi. from what i've read, he's the nicest guy in the world. this would just end the world for me.

as for who i'd welcome: any yankee,

yes, i'm severly biased.

[LeftWideOpen]

So, which three players would you be truly upset to learn that they used roids, I mean like devastation:

1) Big Papi. but this could be 1A, 1B, and 1C. The worst part is ...it wouldn't shock me. It's just like an impending nightmare that I hope never takes place. I'm just so skeptical of big guys who improve drastically. Sign of the times, I guess.
2) Albert Pujols. This guy will go down as one of the greats and you can only pray he's clean.
3) Travis Hafner. Likeable guy, huge bat, huge head.


Are there any that you might welcome the news that they, without a doubt, intentionally roided. I.e. dudes you just hate:

1) Roger Clemens
2) Gary Sheffield (although hes basically been outed)
3) Curt Schilling (i just hate the arrogant fuck)

[cantnokdahustle]

I want someone tiny...an Ichiro or someone like that...just because of the hilarity that would ensue. Nobody would trust anyone


My wife would cry if Ichiro or Wakefield were found to be cheating.

[nfggc10]

So, which three players would you be truly upset to learn that they used roids, I mean like devastation:

1) Big Papi. but this could be 1A, 1B, and 1C. The worst part is ...it wouldn't shock me. It's just like an impending nightmare that I hope never takes place. I'm just so skeptical of big guys who improve drastically. Sign of the times, I guess.
2) Albert Pujols. This guy will go down as one of the greats and you can only pray he's clean.
3) Travis Hafner. Likeable guy, huge bat, huge head.


Are there any that you might welcome the news that they, without a doubt, intentionally roided. I.e. dudes you just hate:

1) Roger Clemens
2) Gary Sheffield (although hes basically been outed)
3) Curt Schilling (i just hate the arrogant fuck)Yeah there's really no questions left about him. Although his bat speed was ridiculous regardless how much garbage he took.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

manny

[thejetstolehome]

A-Rod, Frank Thomas, Jeter (highly, highly unlikely).

[mat1419]

ryan howard, koy detmer, chase utley

i like philadelphia.

[kshtoinks12]

Derek Jeter, Bubba Crosby, Mariano Rivera.


I'd love to hear about Youklis's drug use.

[LeftWideOpen]

manny

are you more worried about him than ortiz? i'm not. manny has such a sweet swing and he really hasnt improved or put on weight. i don't really suspect ortiz either, because nothing about him changed until he switched teams and got a new hitting coach, but he at least seemed to put on some weight from when he was younger to now. he could have started early on in his career.

its fucking sickening that this thread was even necessary, though.

[LeftWideOpen]

Derek Jeter, Bubba Crosby, Mariano Rivera.


I'd love to hear about Youklis's drug use.

i dont know if it takes drugs to learn how to have a good eye at the plate

edit: maybe amphetamines

[ESundy36]

So, which three players would you be truly upset to learn that they used roids, I mean like devastation:

1) Ken Griffey Jr.
2) David Ortiz
3) Eric Chavez/ Vlad Guerrero

Those are exactly the same 3 I would put in that order, just without Eric Chavez.

As for the welcomed news
1. Bonds
2. Clemens
3. Giambi

[FondestMemory]

at this point, i don't care.

nobody would shock me. it's to the point where i just assume everybody's done something shady in the past. it was an entire era. the villafication of a few individuals is beyond ridiculous to me.

[LeftWideOpen]

at this point, i don't care.

nobody would shock me. it's to the point where i just assume everybody's done something shady in the past. it was an entire era. the villafication of a few individuals is beyond ridiculous to me.

i pose this question to you: was it just the era that passed/is fizzling out, or is it the reality from here on out?

i tend to think the latter, which is scary.

[kshtoinks12]

i dont know if it takes drugs to learn how to have a good eye at the plate

edit: maybe amphetaminesHe obviously doesn't use drugs, but imagine the shock if he did!

[FondestMemory]

i pose this question to you: was it just the era that passed/is fizzling out, or is it the reality from here on out?

i tend to think the latter, which is scary.

reality from late 80's on. it won't end.

[nfggc10]

i pose this question to you: was it just the era that passed/is fizzling out, or is it the reality from here on out?

i tend to think the latter, which is scary.Yeah I think that this has just served to open the floodgates to new forms of enhancing drugs. The problem is always going to be that the drugs will be created ahead of the time that they can be tested for.

[leftstranded]

someone like omar visquel

[kbauer]

I want someone tiny...an Ichiro or someone like that...just because of the hilarity that would ensue. Nobody would trust anyone

Alex Sanchez, though hes not a star or really anyone relevant.

I worry about

1. Roger Clemens
2. Big Papi
3. Ryan Howard
4. Joel Zumaya
5. Vlad Guerrero

...those 5 players are important to the game, especially Howard right now. This is supposed to be a clean era now and we need a clean home run champ. I think he is clean though. Big Papi, I think is just fat but still I worry. Zumaya, I hope for the Tigers sake hes clean. Theres enough clouds around us regarding Pudge and Sheffield who I believe both were users at one time. Vlad is so talented and just sucha delight to watch, I would be so bummed if he wasnt clean. Clemens, hes been named before, hes had a late career surge, and gotten bigger. I know his image has been hurt already due to the last 4 years but still, a hall of famer like him, just be bummed if all that was tainted.

I think theyre all clean though.

I just hope A-Rod is on steroids. Yes, it would be damaging to the game but its A-Rod so it would be funny.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

A-Rod, Frank Thomas, Jeter (highly, highly unlikely).
I forgot where I read it, but a source seemed to indicate Frank Thomas very likely took steroids.

I would be devastated if I found out Pujols took steroids.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

I worry about

1. Roger Clemens

I'd actually be really surprised if he never took steroids. The clouds surrounding him just keep getting darker and darker.

[soundofthebrown]

I would hate to see:

1) Ken Griffey Jr.
2) Albert Pujols
3) Lance Berkman
4) Travis Hafner
5) Derek Jeter
6) Alex Rodriguez

[StandMyBrothers]

Pujols, Miguel Cabrera, Hafner, Vlad, and Teixeira

[Goodbye Forever]

Mike Piazza. I've always had a lingering doubt, and it would be upsetting as fuck if it were true.

[the_champ_is_here]

Definitely Jeter

or Donnie Baseball

[FondestMemory]

pujols is linked to some things in his past that would make it very likely that he was a user at some point.

[bigmike]

Pujols, Manny, Ortiz, Maddux/Smoltz/Glavine/that pitching staff from the late 90's.

[MIKEY_HORROR]

I always was a big fan of David Justice growing up, so it would kind of suck to find out he juiced....and also Tony Gwynn, or Grady..haha


it would also be pretty sad if Hulk Hogan, or The Macho Man Randy Savage did...;-)

[ActorInThisPlay]

I honestly don't care...I think so many people have done something illegal in their career that no one would surprise me. I hate how everyone assumes that Bonds is the only person to have ever done steroids and place the blame and hate entirely on him even though he hasn't been proven of anything.

[bigmike]

Well, not to beat a dead horse or anything, but, in my opinion, admitting to taking steroids is proof enough.

[PunkVideoGuys]

I forgot where I read it, but a source seemed to indicate Frank Thomas very likely took steroids.

I would love to see that source. The Big Hurt has been ripped since he joined the league, he's been ripped since he was in college, he was also a leading voice on that '02? '03? sox team that was all going to get publicly tested.

[bigmike]

I would love to see that source. The Big Hurt has been ripped since he joined the league, he's been ripped since he was in college, he was also a leading voice on that '02? '03? sox team that was all going to get publicly tested.
All I know is that the White Sox need to juice their entire lineup. They're terrible at the plate.

[PunkVideoGuys]

All I know is that the White Sox need to juice their entire lineup. They're terrible at the plate.

you said it. sooo annoying...

[rcrook]

vlad, jeter, gwynn...although i can tell you gwynn didnt' take steroids...did you see that mother fucker in the 90s? fat as fuck but could still hit .350

[+thecalisonme]

tony tarasco

[thejetstolehome]

oh Miguel Cabrera, too.

[preppyak]

Alex Sanchez, though hes not a star or really anyone relevant.
Yeah...but didn't people freak out after that...because he was not a guy who looked like he was on them...just imagine a bigger name guy who doesn't look the part (Jeter, Ichiro, etc)...shit would hit the fan...there would be lifetime bans for first offenses

[ForlrnPerplxity]

pujols is linked to some things in his past that would make it very likely that he was a user at some point.
That's ridiculous. What are these things he's supposedly "linked" to?

[ForlrnPerplxity]

I'm not sure if anybody has mentioned Eric Gagne yet. He pitched in college from around Tulsa in Seminole, Oklahoma. I know there's a lot of gray area in this statement, but my friend's friend knew Gagne at the Junior College at which he was pitching and said he juiced up like crazy.

I know that's a friend of a friend of a friend statement, but he's been linked before.

[vandalroyale]

1) Cal Ripkin Jr.
2) George Brett
3) Albert Pujols/Ryan Howard-- Just because everyone hangs their hat on the fact that they are pure power hitters



1) Bonds
2) Scott Brosius, Jorge Posada, Paul O'Neill (I hated the 90's Yankees)
3) Albert Belle
4) Steinbrenner-- that would just be cool

[Scott Weber]

1) Griffey
2) A-Rod
3) Pujols
4) Robin Yount

haha

[Scott Weber]

I honestly don't care...I think so many people have done something illegal in their career that no one would surprise me. I hate how everyone assumes that Bonds is the only person to have ever done steroids and place the blame and hate entirely on him even though he hasn't been proven of anything.
I'm pretty sure absolutely nobody assumes Bonds is the only person who's done steroids, unless they live in a fucking cave.

[+thecalisonme]

damon's a big juicer and im being serious which is slightly comical

[mcfly21]

I don't think I would be shocked if any of my favorite players were caught on the 'roids

I would find it comical if Hammerin Hank admitted to it

[FondestMemory]

That's ridiculous. What are these things he's supposedly "linked" to?

his trainer since before he was even drafted has been linked and mentioned several times as somebody who could easily get ahold of anything anybody wanted.

it's the equivalent of what greg anderson is to bonds. a trainer with access to anything. but of course in the anderson/bonds case, everybody takes that to assume he's guilty. where in pujols' case, everybody just chooses to ignore it.

i'd be shocked if pujols is clean. but really, who fucking cares? the game is tainted. 20-25 years of it's history has this mark on it. even if they get to the bottom of it, that mark won't go away. all they're gonna discover is that probably 75-85% of the league was using. then where do you go? what can you do about that? how do you paint such a large percentage as villains when they're actually the majority?

[cantnokdahustle]

...did you see that mother fucker in the 90s? fat as fuck but could still hit .350

...and swipe a couple bags too.

Love the guy; class act.

[DaveFeelsRight]

frank thomas

[bduke13]

1) Cal Ripkin Jr.
2) George Brett
3) Albert Pujols/Ryan Howard-- Just because everyone hangs their hat on the fact that they are pure power hitters



1) Bonds
2) Scott Brosius, Jorge Posada, Paul O'Neill (I hated the 90's Yankees)
3) Albert Belle
4) Steinbrenner-- that would just be cool

Wow if it was exposed that Ripkin was juiced it would absolutely crush the game and the city of Baltimore

[vandalroyale]

Wow if it was exposed that Ripkin was juiced it would absolutely crush the game and the city of Baltimore

as would I be crushed

[thejetstolehome]

Wow if it was exposed that Ripkin was juiced it would absolutely crush the game and the city of Baltimore

as would I be crushed

who's Ripkin?

[bduke13]

who's Ripkin?

Lmao way to make me feel and look like and idiot. I can't believe I didn't notice that typo

[thejetstolehome]

:irule:

[imirish06]

griffey junior.
man I grew up to love baseball beCAUSE of him....

I had everything of his... posters, spikes, shoes, batting gloves, whatever

he's my all time favorite player

[imirish06]

vlad, jeter, gwynn...although i can tell you gwynn didnt' take steroids...did you see that mother fucker in the 90s? fat as fuck but could still hit .350

you don't have to have muscles coming out of your ass to be taking steroids.

how ripped you get depends on your diet.

it's extremely foolish to think someone doesn't take roids because they're fat.

[startBBtoday]

griffey, edgar, andruw

arod, ripken (yeah, i said it. most overrated dude ever), and clemens

[NickBender]

as would I be crushed

Cal Ripken is the reason I played baseball as a kid.

Andruw Jones
Grady Sizemore

I hate:
Barry Bonds
Albert Belle
A-Rod (I don't know if he's juiced, I just hate him)

[+thecalisonme]

if griffey juiced he would have 1100 home runs by now.

and how has no one mentioned jay buhner, greg vaughn, brady anderson and good ol bret boone

[nfggc10]

if griffey juiced he would have 1100 home runs by now.

and how has no one mentioned jay buhner, greg vaughn, brady anderson and good ol bret booneI believe there's already some evidence about him which isn't surprising considering the one fluke year he had. Bret Boone is another instance where I wouldn't be surprised either, at least for that one ridiculous season.

[cantnokdahustle]

if griffey juiced he would have 1100 home runs by now.

and how has no one mentioned jay buhner, greg vaughn, brady anderson and good ol bret boone

Buhner was a badass in Griffey Baseball for 64.

[+thecalisonme]

Buhner was a badass in Griffey Baseball for 64.
remember how diesel canseco, fielder and johnson were in baseball for sega

[StuGrimson]

My favorite in RBI baseball was Dale Murphy the dude hit huge homers

[thejetstolehome]

Buhner was a badass.

fixed.

[Scott Weber]

brett boone definitely was a roider, I don't know about Buhner, the guy was huge from day 1.

[bigmike]

griffey, edgar, andruw

arod, ripken (yeah, i said it. most overrated dude ever), and clemens
What? He's overrated. But he showed up to his job everyday! That's sooooooo remarkable!

[we are cured]

buhner was one of the really fat guys with skinny legs in ken griffey jr's baseball for snes, and that was like 93

[Scott Weber]

buhner was one of the really fat guys with skinny legs in ken griffey jr's baseball for snes, and that was like 93
The guy was ripped before he even came to Seattle.

[imirish06]

buhner had a fucking arm.