NBA Draft Lottery Thread

[StandMyBrothers]

Being the lottery is tomorrow, who do you want to see end up with the first pick? I hope Phoenix gets it :-D

[weezer182]

The Grizzlies will probably get it.

[preppyak]

how sweet would it be if the Knicks got the 1st pick....and had to trade it to the Bulls

[thejetstolehome]

how sweet would it be if the Knicks got the 1st pick....and had to trade it to the Bulls

i'd love it. :thumbup:

[Drew Beringer]

I just want Boston not to get it so that Bill Simmons goes insane and I can read a funny column about it.

[LeftWideOpen]

at this point, i dont care if we miss out on the 1st or 2nd picks. This current regime (Ainge/Rivers) is hopeless and if we get Oden or Durant, we'll probably win 35 games or so for a couple years and it will just give the ownership a reason to let Rivers and Ainge stick around.

[Drew Beringer]

at this point, i dont care if we miss out on the 1st or 2nd picks. This current regime (Ainge/Rivers) is hopeless and if we get Oden or Durant, we'll probably win 35 games or so for a couple years and it will just give the ownership a reason to let Rivers and Ainge stick around.

I can't believe Doc Rivers got an extension, he is a horrible coach. Ainge is a horrible GM.

[preppyak]

haha...plus...imagine if they pulled a Sheldon Williams or a Balkman with that top 3 pick...reach for someone who would be there way later...that would be amazing

[LeftWideOpen]

I can't believe Doc Rivers got an extension, he is a horrible coach. Ainge is a horrible GM.

I hated the Rivers hire from the beginning, but I was optimistic about Ainge when he first got here. All he has done is waste away the prime of Paul Pierce's career, though.

I see the Celtics following the road the Bruins paved and its depressing. Incompetent ownership that only cares about the bottom line.

[Drew Beringer]

I hated the Rivers hire from the beginning, but I was optimistic about Ainge when he first got here. All he has done is waste away the prime of Paul Pierce's career, though.

I see the Celtics following the road the Bruins paved and its depressing. Incompetent ownership that only cares about the bottom line.
At least Boston still has two winning franchises.

[LeftWideOpen]

At least Boston still has two winning franchises.

yep ..it more then makes up for it.

[thejetstolehome]

At least Boston still has two winning franchises.

the Pats were supposed to move to Hartford a few years ago but it fell through. :-(

[LeftWideOpen]

the Pats were supposed to move to Hartford a few years ago but it fell through. :-(

drew bledsoe and bill parcells happened. that, to me, will be bledsoe's legacy. he really played a major role in saving the franchise.

if we drafted rick mirer, they'd be the Hartford (or St. Louis) Patriots. Kraft was ready to bolt until 1993/1994.

[thejetstolehome]

drew bledsoe and bill parcells happened. that, to me, will be bledsoe's legacy. he really played a major role in saving the franchise.

if we drafted rick mirer, they'd be the Hartford (or St. Louis) Patriots. Kraft was ready to bolt until 1993/1994.

hmmm, i remember this being a few years ago and not that long ago.

EDIT: 1999: http://www.sportslawnews.com/archive/articles%201999/Patriots1.html

[LeftWideOpen]

hmmm, i remember this being a few years ago and not that long ago.

EDIT: 1999: http://www.sportslawnews.com/archive/articles%201999/Patriots1.html

yeah, but i dont think it was more then Kraft trying to use leverage w/ the Massachusetts legislators in 1999. In the early 90's, when Kraft first bought the team, we were about to be relocated to St.Louis (Hartford was also talked about) until he decided to wait it out. Then, we started having success.

[bduke13]

I'd like the Bulls to get first pick, the Grizzlies to get 2nd pick and the Celtics to get like 13th pick

[preppyak]

I'd like the Bulls to get first pick, the Grizzlies to get 2nd pick and the Celtics to get like 13th pick
haha

If the Bulls could get Oden and move Wallace, I'd love it...I'd like an offensive presence inside personally...

[bduke13]

What do you guys think will happen if the Bucks win the lottery? They have a 15.6% chance and they already have Bogut. The easy choice would be to just draft Durant but who knows

[preppyak]

well...I just thought about this...the Bulls would keep Wallace and be able to play a 2-big if they wanted too...I mean, Oden is far from perfect right now. For the Bucks...why not the same?

[bigmike]

Bucks would look good with Oden and Bogut at the 4 and 5.

[Drew Beringer]

I would rather have Oden on the Bucks than Durant, Bucks got Redd to score, they need help on defense.

[Drew Beringer]

But I know Bogut wants to play the 5, so I wouldn't mind having Durant. Regardless, the Bucks have a 15.6% chance at the number 1 pick, so if they can get Oden or Durant I'll be happy (duh). I just played the NBA Lottery thing on ESPN and the Bucks got the #1 pick twice in a row so I quit. haha

[somethingyellow]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Suns wouldnt get the pick if it is in the top 3

[xbrokendownx]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Suns wouldnt get the pick if it is in the top 3







your are right

[preppyak]

Phoenix receives Atlanta's 2007 first round pick (Joe Johnson trade (http://www.nba.com/suns/news/johnson_traded_050819.html) 081905) Protected through 3 in 2007 and no protection in 2008.


Yep...though, next year it could be a top pick

[xbrokendownx]

i cant wait to see who the knicks get with the 9th pick!





.....oh wait

[hockey0001]

I can't believe Doc Rivers got an extension, he is a horrible coach. Ainge is a horrible GM.

im hoping that there was a conversation at some point between rivers and management that consisted of Rivers getting an extension if he did everything he could to tank the season. Anything short of that and the extension is insane

[preppyak]

Figured I'll post this here...since the NCAA basketball thread is dead...from Mike DeCourcy about the age rule:

A whole lot of people who don't understand the issue contend the age limit is a bad thing, but my yearly look at the NBA's conference finalists shows yet again why it was desperately needed.

Of those 32 players, 21 were products of U.S. colleges, with all but one playing two years or more. Ten are international products. Only one, Cleveland's LeBron James, came directly to the NBA out of a U.S. high school.

That's the same number as a year ago: one. This time, though, James plays a slightly greater role in his team's fortunes than Desagana Diop did with the 2006 Dallas Mavericks.

That's fairly amazing. So many of the league's most gifted stars went directly from high school to the NBA: Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, Tracy McGrady. And, yet again, only one of their number has gotten to the conference finals. There were 35 high school players in the league at the start of the season, but one still is playing when it counts.What results from having people play more than one year in college (something Bill Walker will be doing...despite being a HS to Pro player originally...there are a few others as well) is that their is a better talent pool from picks 8-20...the teams that go from outside to inside the playoffs with the right moves.

[Drew Beringer]

one hour NBA Shootaround before the lottery? Haha, that's really weird.

[somethingyellow]

your are right

Phoenix receives Atlanta's 2007 first round pick (Joe Johnson trade (http://www.nba.com/suns/news/johnson_traded_050819.html) 081905) Protected through 3 in 2007 and no protection in 2008.


Yep...though, next year it could be a top pick

sweet, thanks. In that case I hope phoenix gets the 4th pick in this years draft and the hawks blow again next year

[iihungrieii]

the suns can get 2 picks?

[StandMyBrothers]

sweet, thanks. In that case I hope phoenix gets the 4th pick in this years draft and the hawks blow again next year
me too. I now hope the Grizzlies get the 1st pick, Gasol could use it

[xbrokendownx]

the suns can get 2 picks?







they have the hawks pick from the joe johnson trade

[whitelines]

With the 1st pick in the 2007 nba draft, i select NBA ON NBC

[preppyak]

sweet, thanks. In that case I hope phoenix gets the 4th pick in this years draft and the hawks blow again next year
Well...its only 1 pick as far as I know...its just that if the Hawks get a top 3 pick, the Suns will get it next year.

But NBA trades are absurdly confusing, so I may be wrong...

[fire on my lips]

I hope the T-wolves get the number 1 and the Bulls get the number 2, or vice versa. My roommate is a big T-wolves fan, and in denial about KG ever wanting to win an NBA championship, and Oden or Durant on the Bulls would be ridiculous.

[xbrokendownx]

Randy Foye will lead the wolves to 15 NBA titles

[StandMyBrothers]

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Atlanta receives Indiana's 2007 first-round pick. (Al Harrington trade (http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/wolves_trade_06.html) 082206) (Top 10 protected in 2007, top 8 in 2008, top 5 in 2009, and unprotected in 2010). http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/bos_25.gif
Boston receives Minnesota's 2009 first-round pick. (Wally Szczerbiak trade (http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/wolves_trade_06.html) 012606). Top 3 protected. Trade will not go through until after (Minn) first round pick has been conveyed to LA Clippers. *Must be 2 years following this trade commencing due to NBA's no succesive year first-round pick trade rule. http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/cha_25.jpg
Charlotte receives Toronto's 2007 first-round pick. (Top 15 protected in 2007, lottery (top 14) protected in 2008. Unprotected in 2009. (Pavlovic trade 062204) via Cleveland receives a future Toronto first-round pick (Lamond Murray trade (http://www.nba.com/raptors/news/pr_murray_020925.html) 092502). http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/chi_25.gif
Chicago has the right to swap first-round picks in 2007 with New York Knicks (Eddy Curry trade (http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/curry_traded_051004.html) 100405). *Unless Knicks pick at 24 or lower, in which case pick is conveyed to Utah and swap of picks is extinguished. http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/det_25.gif
Detroit receives Orlando's 2007 first-round pick. (Darko Milicic trade (http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/cato_060215.html) 021506). (Top 5 protected in 2007, unprotected after) http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/gsw_25.gif
Golden State receives a conditional Philadelphia 2007 first-round pick. (Erick Dampier trade (http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/dallas_trade_082404.html) 082404) via Dallas receives a Philadelphia first-round pick. (Antoine Walker trade (http://www.nba.com/news/trade_031020.html) 102003) via Atlanta (Glenn Robinson trade (http://www.nba.com/news/trade_030723.html) 072303). (Top 15 protected in 2007, or Dallas receives 1 million dollars, and trade obligations will be extinguished). http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/lac_25.gif
Los Angeles Clippers receive Minnesota's 2007 first-round pick (top 10 protected through 2011 and unprotected after). (Marko Jaric trade 081205 (http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/clippers_trade.html)). http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/phi_25.gif
Philadelphia receives Dallas 2007 first-round pick (Allen Iverson trade (http://www.nba.com/sixers/news/trade_061219.html) 121906) via Denver receives a first-round pick from Golden State. (Nikoloz Tskitishvili trade (http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/acquire_tskitishvili_white_022405.h tml) 022405) via Golden State receives a 2007 Dallas first-round pick. (Erick Dampier trade (http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/dallas_trade_082404.html) 082404). (Top 7 protected in 2007, top 5 protected in 2008, and unprotected in 2009). http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/phi_25.gif
Philadelphia receives a Denver's 2007 first round pick. (Allen Iverson trade (http://www.nba.com/sixers/news/trade_061219.html) 121906). Top 1 protected in 2007. http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/pho_25.gif
Phoenix receives a 2007 Cleveland first-round pick. (Rajon Rondo trade (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/draft-central/press062806-draft-rondo.html) 062806) (top 10 protected through 2010 and unprotected after) via Boston receives a 2007 Cleveland first-round pick. (Jiri Welsh trade (http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/welsch_050224.html) 022405) http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/pho_25.gif
Phoenix receives Atlanta's 2007 first round pick (Joe Johnson trade (http://www.nba.com/suns/news/johnson_traded_050819.html) 081905) Protected through 3 in 2007 and no protection in 2008. http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/uth_25.gif
Utah receives a 2007 New York first-round pick (top 24 protected in 2007, top 23 protected in 2008, top 22 protected in 2009 and unproteced in 2010) (Tom Gugliotta trade (http://www.nba.com/jazz/news/gugliotta_021904.html) 021904) via Phoenix (Marbury trade) Phoenix receives a 2005 New York Knicks first-round pick. (010504 Marbury trade).

[Drew Beringer]

http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/atl_25.gif
Atlanta receives Indiana's 2007 first-round pick. (Al Harrington trade (http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/wolves_trade_06.html) 082206) (Top 10 protected in 2007, top 8 in 2008, top 5 in 2009, and unprotected in 2010). http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/bos_25.gif
Boston receives Minnesota's 2009 first-round pick. (Wally Szczerbiak trade (http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/wolves_trade_06.html) 012606). Top 3 protected. Trade will not go through until after (Minn) first round pick has been conveyed to LA Clippers. *Must be 2 years following this trade commencing due to NBA's no succesive year first-round pick trade rule. http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/cha_25.jpg
Charlotte receives Toronto's 2007 first-round pick. (Top 15 protected in 2007, lottery (top 14) protected in 2008. Unprotected in 2009. (Pavlovic trade 062204) via Cleveland receives a future Toronto first-round pick (Lamond Murray trade (http://www.nba.com/raptors/news/pr_murray_020925.html) 092502). http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/chi_25.gif
Chicago has the right to swap first-round picks in 2007 with New York Knicks (Eddy Curry trade (http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/curry_traded_051004.html) 100405). *Unless Knicks pick at 24 or lower, in which case pick is conveyed to Utah and swap of picks is extinguished. http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/det_25.gif
Detroit receives Orlando's 2007 first-round pick. (Darko Milicic trade (http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/cato_060215.html) 021506). (Top 5 protected in 2007, unprotected after) http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/gsw_25.gif
Golden State receives a conditional Philadelphia 2007 first-round pick. (Erick Dampier trade (http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/dallas_trade_082404.html) 082404) via Dallas receives a Philadelphia first-round pick. (Antoine Walker trade (http://www.nba.com/news/trade_031020.html) 102003) via Atlanta (Glenn Robinson trade (http://www.nba.com/news/trade_030723.html) 072303). (Top 15 protected in 2007, or Dallas receives 1 million dollars, and trade obligations will be extinguished). http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/lac_25.gif
Los Angeles Clippers receive Minnesota's 2007 first-round pick (top 10 protected through 2011 and unprotected after). (Marko Jaric trade 081205 (http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/clippers_trade.html)). http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/phi_25.gif
Philadelphia receives Dallas 2007 first-round pick (Allen Iverson trade (http://www.nba.com/sixers/news/trade_061219.html) 121906) via Denver receives a first-round pick from Golden State. (Nikoloz Tskitishvili trade (http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/acquire_tskitishvili_white_022405.h tml) 022405) via Golden State receives a 2007 Dallas first-round pick. (Erick Dampier trade (http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/dallas_trade_082404.html) 082404). (Top 7 protected in 2007, top 5 protected in 2008, and unprotected in 2009). http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/phi_25.gif
Philadelphia receives a Denver's 2007 first round pick. (Allen Iverson trade (http://www.nba.com/sixers/news/trade_061219.html) 121906). Top 1 protected in 2007. http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/pho_25.gif
Phoenix receives a 2007 Cleveland first-round pick. (Rajon Rondo trade (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/draft-central/press062806-draft-rondo.html) 062806) (top 10 protected through 2010 and unprotected after) via Boston receives a 2007 Cleveland first-round pick. (Jiri Welsh trade (http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/welsch_050224.html) 022405) http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/pho_25.gif
Phoenix receives Atlanta's 2007 first round pick (Joe Johnson trade (http://www.nba.com/suns/news/johnson_traded_050819.html) 081905) Protected through 3 in 2007 and no protection in 2008. http://nbadraft.net/smnbateams/uth_25.gif
Utah receives a 2007 New York first-round pick (top 24 protected in 2007, top 23 protected in 2008, top 22 protected in 2009 and unproteced in 2010) (Tom Gugliotta trade (http://www.nba.com/jazz/news/gugliotta_021904.html) 021904) via Phoenix (Marbury trade) Phoenix receives a 2005 New York Knicks first-round pick. (010504 Marbury trade).
Ugh that top one with Atlanta pisses me off, it's like the Pacers just gave away that pick. With that pick we could draft Conley, who would help that team a lot.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Ugh that top one with Atlanta pisses me off, it's like the Pacers just gave away that pick. With that pick we could draft Conley, who would help that team a lot.
There's still a chance the Pacers could move up to 10th this year. I really hope that happens, because that's the only thing that would make the horrible 2nd half to the season somewhat ok.

Do you think they're gonna trade JO?

[Drew Beringer]

There's still a chance the Pacers could move up to 10th this year. I really hope that happens, because that's the only thing that would make the horrible 2nd half to the season somewhat ok.

Do you think they're gonna trade JO?
How can they get the 10th pick? If they trade for it?

And yes, I'm sure JO is good as gone, it's the only way the Pacers can get better, they have to blow up the team.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

How can they get the 10th pick? If they trade for it?

And yes, I'm sure JO is good as gone, it's the only way the Pacers can get better, they have to blow up the team.
They can move up to 10th in the lottery tomorrow, even though there isn't a great chance of that happening.

[Drew Beringer]

They can move up to 10th in the lottery tomorrow, even though there isn't a great chance of that happening.
Ah, so if they get a top 10 pick, they keep it cause it's protected? I see. Well, fingers crossed.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Ah, so if they get a top 10 pick, they keep it cause it's protected? I see. Well, fingers crossed.
Yep, which will really suck if they don't get it, because they were a few losses away from a top 7 pick.

[xbrokendownx]

apparently Randy Foye is going to be representing minnesota in the lottery


thats fuckin awesome

[Drew Beringer]

haha I just did the NBA Draft Lottery thing on ESPN again and the Pacers got the 2nd pick no joke. Hahaha, if that would really happen I'll faint tomorrow.

[LeftWideOpen]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070522&sportCat=nba

bill simmons believes the sonics are the most deserving of the #1 pick. its a pretty good read.

[LeftWideOpen]

Look for the C's to trade the pick if its not in the Top 2.

Executive director of basketball operations Danny Ainge said Monday, "I would say there's more of a chance of trading [the pick] if it's not No. 1 or No. 2. It would be more difficult to part with if it's 1 or 2."

[livethesounds]

Look for the C's to trade the pick if its not in the Top 2.

Executive director of basketball operations Danny Ainge said Monday, "I would say there's more of a chance of trading [the pick] if it's not No. 1 or No. 2. It would be more difficult to part with if it's 1 or 2."

what do you think they'd get for a #3 or 4 pick? or who? that would be interesting.

[LeftWideOpen]

what do you think they'd get for a #3 or 4 pick? or who? that would be interesting.

i know that they really want to make a move for garnett. The price will be steep ( Jefferson or Green will have to be involved), but its worth it. We need to win now. Pierce isnt getting any younger.

[preppyak]

Look for the C's to trade the pick if its not in the Top 2.

Executive director of basketball operations Danny Ainge said Monday, "I would say there's more of a chance of trading [the pick] if it's not No. 1 or No. 2. It would be more difficult to part with if it's 1 or 2."
See...what I would love to be...if I was a GM, would be the team with the #2 pick. Because if the #1 passes on Oden, you just got absurdly good trade value...you probably pick up 2 top 10 picks easily...which, in this draft, can be as good as getting Oden himself.

Like, if Minnesota gets the #2 pick...they don't need Durant or Oden really...but they could use a Mike Conley/Acie Law...or someone on that echelon along with another top 15ish pick...all of the sudden their bench depth just grew.

Though, they may be one of the few teams I can say that about...maybe Portland, since they have F/C spot...but, even they could use Oden. If Oden goes...they might trade the pick of Durant away (they have Roy, Aldridge, and Miles to fill the spots Durant might play.

I'd just love to have that choice at #2...because a desperate team would die for an Oden/Durant...and if you think you have a decent team that needs solid role players and 3rd options...there are plenty of them in this draft

[livethesounds]

i know that they really want to make a move for garnett. The price will be steep ( Jefferson or Green will have to be involved), but its worth it. We need to win now. Pierce isnt getting any younger.

wow, you think giving up Jefferson or Green plus a pick that high is worth an aging Garnett?
You might make the playoffs this year...but I think that screws you for years to come. just my opinion.

[preppyak]

i know that they really want to make a move for garnett. The price will be steep ( Jefferson or Green will have to be involved), but its worth it. We need to win now. Pierce isnt getting any younger.
wow, you think giving up Jefferson or Green plus a pick that high is worth an aging Garnett?
You might make the playoffs this year...but I think that screws you for years to come. just my opinion.
Yeah...I don't like that move so much...I'd rather give up one of those players and trade up for Durant, who is going to be a KG or a Tracy McGrady...rather than take the KG that is already there. Trading all that for KG looks like desperation...and quite frankly, the Celtics need to win at all before they can go into a "win now" mentality

The moral of the story is the Celtics need a 1/2 pick...otherwise they are doomed to failure somehow this off-season

[livethesounds]

Yeah...I don't like that move so much...I'd rather give up one of those players and trade up for Durant, who is going to be a KG or a Tracy McGrady...rather than take the KG that is already there. Trading all that for KG looks like desperation...and quite frankly, the Celtics need to win at all before they can go into a "win now" mentality

The moral of the story is the Celtics need a 1/2 pick...otherwise they are doomed to failure somehow this off-season

i dont think thats entirely true, but they do need an impact player. I just don't think it would be a great idea to give up your future to just win (and probably not even make a confrence final) for a year or two. If thats what Cs fans want though...then whatever.

[STSakaTRUTH]

All Celtics fans better be praying with me... PLEASE GOD, WE NEED ODEN!!!!!!!

[LeftWideOpen]

i agree with preppy's last part ..we need the #1 or #2 pick.

as for the Garnett trade, I would not give up Jefferson or Green + the #3 or #4 or whatever pick for just him. I wouldnt give up Jefferson at all, actually.

But Gerald Green is by no means a sure thing. His stock his hot right now, but he plays absolutely no defense and his jump shot is nothing to brag about. His value may never be higher and if we can trade Green + the pick for a combination of Garnett, Mike James and Craig Smith ..then count me in. Garnett and Pierce still have at least 3 prime years left and you've still got a young core of Jefferson, Rondo, Perkins, West, Gomes, Allen and Smith to build around down the road.

not to mention we've got an extra 1st rounder in a few years from Minnesota. Throw in a healthy Wally and you have a team who can compete for an Eastern Conference title immediately and a team thats still set for the future.

[vandalroyale]

does anyone think that Yi will materialize into a legitimate NBA player?

[LeftWideOpen]

does anyone think that Yi will materialize into a legitimate NBA player?

speaking of Yi, draftexpress is reporting that he isnt 19 ..but 22.

thats makes a big difference.

[preppyak]

does anyone think that Yi will materialize into a legitimate NBA player?
He looks very slow to me...from the workout footage I've seen of him. The ESPN highlights they've shown...he looks slower than Yao...which is not a good thing. I know teams will fall in love with a 7 footer with dexterity...but, he looks very weak and very slow, and that will only work for a year or two before teams figure out how to dominate him

Sounds like he has the same problem as Durant...isn't big enough for the 4, but perhaps not versatile enough for the 3...even more so for Yi than Durant.

There is some concern as to what position he will play in the NBA: He lacks the upper body strength and the back to the basket moves at power forward and is a bit long and rangy for the three
Also
The general consensus in China is that he is actually born in 1984 or 1985, meaning he wouldn't enter the NBA until he's actually 25 years of age if he stays in China until his 1987 draft year
And because the NBADraft guy can't do math...he meant that number to be 22-23...not 25. The difference between 1984 and 1987 is not 6 years you jackass

[preppyak]

speaking of Yi, draftexpress is reporting that he isnt 19 ..but 22.

thats makes a big difference.
Yeah...check what I posted from NBADraft.net...by the time he develops into a rounded player, he may already be in his late 20's.

[preppyak]

(Note: I had to give the Bulls a "0" for rigging potential simply because there could be rioting in Manhattan if Isiah caused the Knicks to lose either Oden or Durant. It would be like the Ewing lottery, only the exact opposite. You might even see Knicks fans storming MSG holding fire torches with their shirts tied around their heads. I'm assuming the league wants to avoid this scenario.) Hahaha...that would be Renaldo Balkman x100000000000000000
10. Bulls (via Knicks) -- Joakim Noah I would cease to be a Bulls fan if that happened...I will NEVER cheer for that fuck and would demand a Kirk Hinrich trade. Besides, we have Ben Wallace, Deng and Tyrus Thomas...why do we need Noah? I'd either get rid of Duhon and pick up Acie Law...or pick up a SF to back up Nocioni...someone like an Al Thornton or Julian Wright.

They have to remember, Hinrich/Gordon/Nocioni/Deng are all due for a payday soon...and at least one of them is going to be going, so pick the least consistent (Nocioni probably) and find him a backup to train for a year or two to fill in.

[vandalroyale]

He looks very slow to me...from the workout footage I've seen of him. The ESPN highlights they've shown...he looks slower than Yao...which is not a good thing. I know teams will fall in love with a 7 footer with dexterity...but, he looks very weak and very slow, and that will only work for a year or two before teams figure out how to dominate him

Sounds like he has the same problem as Durant...isn't big enough for the 4, but perhaps not versatile enough for the 3...even more so for Yi than Durant.

Also

And because the NBADraft guy can't do math...he meant that number to be 22-23...not 25. The difference between 1984 and 1987 is not 6 years you jackass


i thought he looked slow as well... I wasn't sure if it was just me...And the fact he's not really even doing any workouts with an NBA caliber player going against him has me thinking he's a Darko as opposed to a Yao

[preppyak]

i thought he looked slow as well... I wasn't sure if it was just me...And the fact he's not really even doing any workouts with an NBA caliber player going against him has me thinking he's a Darko as opposed to a Yao
Yeah..and he played terribly at the Summit Games the report said...so, I'm wondering how good he actually is. In China, he is Yao, he's a shot blocker and a physical presence...here, he is a tweener between the 3-4 spots. That's a pretty dramatic shift in game style

[livethesounds]

the lottery is such a cock tease this year.

when is the actual draft again?

[xbrokendownx]

middle of june probably. its usually like the tuesday or wednesday after the season ends

[Drew Beringer]

Yi will not be good.

[Drew Beringer]

Whoever selects Joakim Noah with a lottery pick should be ridiculed until Noah retires. He is such an obvious bust.

[livethesounds]

Whoever selects Joakim Noah with a lottery pick should be ridiculed until Noah retires. He is such an obvious bust.

i dont know if he will be a bust, but nobody but gators fans will want him on their team at all.

[xbrokendownx]

he will be a bust....guaranteed


he has no offensive upside to his game whatsoever. he is ben wallace, without the awesome defense and rebounding

[Drew Beringer]

He won't live up to lottery pick expectations. He is not big enough to make a dent against power fowards and centers in the NBA. I mean, Oden DESTROYED him in the NC game. Energy that he has only gets you so far.

[Drew Beringer]

Draft is June 28th btw

[preppyak]

i dont know if he will be a bust, but nobody but gators fans will want him on their team at all.
Yep...
He won't live up to lottery pick expectations. He is not big enough to make a dent against power fowards and centers in the NBA. I mean, Oden DESTROYED him in the NC game. Energy that he has only gets you so far.
...and yep

Seriously...if the Bulls draft him, it proves to me that their management is on the downswing in terms of drafting. They picked up Tyrus Thomas and Thabo last year...but, I thought they could have made some better picks personally...if they take Noah over a solid SF or PG/SG combo...I will not watch a single game, I'll just check how Hinrich is doing.

[Scott Weber]

Bill Simmons has the Sonics getting the #1 pick with his "karma" ratings and who's due for it. God, I hope so. It's pretty much the only thing that could save the franchise.

[FondestMemory]

i'd like to see the sonics get number one or two. oden or durant could be enough to keep that team in seattle.

and as far as noah goes, i see him being a lot like anderson verajeo, where he brings defense, rebounding and energy off the bench. i think he'll be a solid guy to have on a team, but not worth a lottery pick.

[StandMyBrothers]

Bill Simmons has the Sonics getting the #1 pick with his "karma" ratings and who's due for it. God, I hope so. It's pretty much the only thing that could save the franchise.
they need it badly, it would probably help keep Rashard Lewis to stay.

[Scott Weber]

they need it badly, it would probably help keep Rashard Lewis to stay.
Yeah...and if the Sonics draft Joakim Noah I will seriously disown the franchise.

[StandMyBrothers]

Yeah...and if the Sonics draft Joakim Noah I will seriously disown the franchise.
What they is another undeveloped PF-C. hehehe

[Scott Weber]

What they is another undeveloped PF-C. hehehe
haha fucking a. robert swift is legit!

[1moreandimfree]

Bill Simmons has the Sonics getting the #1 pick with his "karma" ratings and who's due for it. God, I hope so. It's pretty much the only thing that could save the franchise.

I'd probably kill myself.

[1moreandimfree]

haha fucking a. robert swift is legit!

Before he blew up his knee he was showing at least a little potential, wasn't he?

[Scott Weber]

Before he blew up his knee he was showing at least a little potential, wasn't he?
Yeah he was.

[get high]

theyre going to fix it for at least the third time so boston gets 1. the other 2 known occasions were ewing to ny and lebron to cleveland. oden reminds everyone of bill russel and would be perfect for boston, whom the nba needs to be good for the all around well-being of the league

[Scott Weber]

theyre going to fix it for at least the third time so boston gets 1. the other 2 known occasions were ewing to ny and lebron to cleveland. oden reminds everyone of bill russel and would be perfect for boston, whom the nba needs to be good for the all around well-being of the league
I'm going to laugh really hard at you if Memphis gets the #1 pick

[LeftWideOpen]

blah blah blah im a whiny bitch and i secretly hate myself so im gonna find anything to complain about wah wah wah blah blah blah

sincerely,
get high's interpreter.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

If the Pacers get one of the top 2 picks, I'll stop posting on the internet for the rest of my life.

[FondestMemory]

people who believe all the fixing stories and conspiracy theories make me laugh.

[get high]

blah blah blah im a whiny bitch and i secretly hate myself so im gonna find anything to complain about wah wah wah blah blah blah

sincerely,
get high's interpreter.

no, man. i am all for them rigging it for boston to get oden. id love to see the next coming of bill russell. i was all for fixing it so lebron went to cleveland as well

[LeftWideOpen]

no, man. i am all for them rigging it for boston to get oden. id love to see the next coming of bill russell. i was all for fixing it so lebron went to cleveland as well

alright, we're cool then

haha

[FondestMemory]

cause cleveland being the worst team in the league and having the best chance at the top overall pick had nothing to do with it.

and it's not like boston even has odds in their favor for the top pick, so if they get it clearly it's rigged.

do you realize how fucking stupid that sounds?

[get high]

cause cleveland being the worst team in the league and having the best chance at the top overall pick had nothing to do with it.

and it's not like boston even has odds in their favor for the top pick, so if they get it clearly it's rigged.

do you realize how fucking stupid that sounds?

you;ve got to be an idiot to not believe that they would make sure that the huge guaranteed stars go to solid markets. the nba is a business. thats the foundation of the league, it's nothing more than a business precaution

[bjam12]

Yep...

...and yep

Seriously...if the Bulls draft him, it proves to me that their management is on the downswing in terms of drafting. They picked up Tyrus Thomas and Thabo last year...but, I thought they could have made some better picks personally...if they take Noah over a solid SF or PG/SG combo...I will not watch a single game, I'll just check how Hinrich is doing.

Who did you want to see the Bulls pick at those spots? Because I like Ty Thomas, he has a lot of upside. Still not sure about Thabo though.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

cleveland is far from a solid market

[trindaddy]

i hope the bulls pull off their 1 % chance at number one pick and get oden. sure im a texas fan (it's awkward living in ohio and not being an ohio state fan) but the bulls could use a big man who can infact shoot the ball and play defense. ben wallace is about the worst offensive player in the league, and is only a major defensive presence. not to mention the bulls already have plenty of good shooters.

[Scott Weber]

you;ve got to be an idiot to not believe that they would make sure that the huge guaranteed stars go to solid markets. the nba is a business. thats the foundation of the league, it's nothing more than a business precaution
No, you'd have to be an idiot to think they actually fix these things. Cleveland is NOT the optimal market for LeBron to be in, neither was Houston for Yao.

[FondestMemory]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aha

that's my reaction to cleveland being a solid market.

it's just stupid to actually believe that. cleveland had the best chance of getting the top pick, and they got it. it wasn't surprising. boston has a great chance of getting the top pick, so if they do, it won't be surprising.

[Scott Weber]

I bet Loose Change is Get High's favorite movie.

[get high]

lebron is from ohio, fools. that was clearly the best place for him to go among the viable options and he publicly stated before the draft he would like to play there

[get high]

I bet Loose Change is Get High's favorite movie.

never heard of it. i like the last waltz and lock, stock

[get high]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aha

that's my reaction to cleveland being a solid market.

it's just stupid to actually believe that. cleveland had the best chance of getting the top pick, and they got it. it wasn't surprising. boston has a great chance of getting the top pick, so if they do, it won't be surprising.

memphis has the best chance. theyll get durant at 2

[Scott Weber]

lebron is from ohio, fools. that was clearly the best place for him to go among the viable options and he publicly stated before the draft he would like to play there
Not hard for him to declare that when Cleveland had the best chance of getting him.

[get high]

Not hard for him to declare that when Cleveland had the best chance of getting him.

or due to the fact that he grew up a cavs fan and was revered as an icon of ohio sports since he was 12

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

i believe the ewing lottery was fixed, completely.

but the lebron one.....nope. Cleveland just were lucky they sucked that year.

[trindaddy]

Not hard for him to declare that when Cleveland had the best chance of getting him.


yeah, but why would he not want to be picked first by the team he grew up closest to and liking? he knew he would be what the offense completely revolved around, and would more than likely get more money, fame, and the best chance of being an annual all-star by playing for them. im not a cleveland fan, but i really can't see why at the time he would have wanted to play for another team.

[LeftWideOpen]

you;ve got to be an idiot to not believe that they would make sure that the huge guaranteed stars go to solid markets. the nba is a business. thats the foundation of the league, it's nothing more than a business precaution

if this were true, Tim Duncan would be wearing a Boston Celtics uniform. I dont think the NBA is smart enough to think they could withstand 10 years of Boston fans jumping off the Tobin Bridge only to have Greg Oden, who at the time was about 9, be their savior.

[Scott Weber]

Yeah, Orlando was a gigantic market to get Shaq too.

/sarcasm

[get high]

Yeah, Orlando was a gigantic market to get Shaq too.

/sarcasm

i didnt say they do it for every draft. i said this will be the thir time. ewing, lebron, and oden have been themost hyped players to come out for the draft in 50 years, scott.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

but durant is maybe more hyped than oden.....so....

[FondestMemory]

shaq, robinson, duncan, and kwame were all hyped incredibally too.

why didn't they fix those drafts? and why didn't duncan end up a celtic since the league needs them to be so successful?

and why only fix it three times instead of every year?

honestly, it sounds so fucking ridiculous to actually believe that shit.

[get high]

but durant is maybe more hyped than oden.....so....

oden has been followed by the NBA since he was 11 or 12 years old. I knew about oden through the media when he was a freshman in high school. durnat just burst on the scene and he hasnt been as hyped by any stretch

[Brownpants06]

ugh why do they go over all this bullshit. just pick the damn ball/envelope and get this over with already.


tv is angering my today.


ps... where did stern just get back on vacation from... or is that tan fake.

[Scott Weber]

i didnt say they do it for every draft. i said this will be the thir time. ewing, lebron, and oden have been themost hyped players to come out for the draft in 50 years, scott.
oooooh, when you say my name I know you're serious.

[Scott Weber]

oden has been followed by the NBA since he was 11 or 12 years old. I knew about oden through the media when he was a freshman in high school. durnat just burst on the scene and he hasnt been as hyped by any stretch
Who cares? He's got even more recent hype. Pre-Draft hype right before is all that matters, man.

[trindaddy]

oden has been followed by the NBA since he was 11 or 12 years old. I knew about oden through the media when he was a freshman in high school. durnat just burst on the scene and he hasnt been as hyped by any stretch


in the past year though durant has been more hyped considering oden's injury and such. and what validity would your argument have if oden goes to the grizzlies (who should probably take durant, but oden is tempting). you can't honestly tell me that memphis is a large market.


i just dont understand why people get into all these conspiracy theories. i find them ridiculous.

[get high]

oooooh, when you say my name I know you're serious.

haha, well played













scott

[get high]

Listen, i take back my theory should boston not get the first pick. i will consider myself proven wrong. However, I would be absolutely stunned and floored should that happen. I'd say there's a 9/10 chance boston gets the pick through a fix, they have less than a 20 percent chance mathematically I believe

[Drew Beringer]

Hopefully the Bucks get the first pick and the Pacers get the second. hey, it happened for me in the lottery last night on ESPN hahaha

[Drew Beringer]

14 - LA Clippers

[Drew Beringer]

13- New Orleans Hornets

[Drew Beringer]

12- Sixers

[Drew Beringer]

haha I'm stopping now

[LeftWideOpen]

portland jumped!

[Drew Beringer]

aw fuck 6th pick? this sucks

[Drew Beringer]

hahahahaahahha @ Boston

[LeftWideOpen]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

x

[trindaddy]

haha oh my god.

[Drew Beringer]

And Grizzlies! Wow, the 3 teams with the best chance got knocked out!

[Drew Beringer]

Bill Simmons just died.

[get high]

please consider me a complete idiot

[Scott Weber]

Oh My God Fuck You Get High Fuck Your Conspiracy

Lets Get This Sonics!!!!!!!!

[bjam12]

Damn Boston at 5!

[Brownpants06]

hahahahahhaha

poor bill simmons


fuck the grizzlies. so does phoenix not get a pick now?

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

WELL at least that ****** wont be in the sports forum anymore.

go eat shit with your conspiracies.

[trindaddy]

fuckin hilarious. bulls are looking at noah or hibbert i bet. i've always hated noah, he annoys me, but if he goes to the bulls i'll tolerate him.

[LeftWideOpen]

fuck fuck fuckfuyck fuck fuck
I HATE THE LOTTERY

USE A NORMAL DRAFT SYSTEM YOU RETARDS

[bjam12]

Bill Simmons just died.

haha can't wait to read his next article.

[StandMyBrothers]

hahahahahhaha

poor bill simmons


fuck the grizzlies. so does phoenix not get a pick now?
we get their pick next year unprotected I believe

[LeftWideOpen]

celticsblog.com just crashed.

for real.

[xbrokendownx]

lol @ Boston

[Drew Beringer]

Oh My God Fuck You Get High Fuck Your Conspiracy

Lets Get This Sonics!!!!!!!!
haha oh shit you got Durant or Oden!
fuck fuck fuckfuyck fuck fuck
I HATE THE LOTTERY

USE A NORMAL DRAFT SYSTEM YOU RETARDS
hahaha agree
haha can't wait to read his next article.
me too

[StandMyBrothers]

Portland!@!@!#!#!#

[LeftWideOpen]

wow. portland.

wow

[xbrokendownx]

oden to portland!

[livethesounds]

fuck fuck fuckfuyck fuck fuck
I HATE THE LOTTERY

USE A NORMAL DRAFT SYSTEM YOU RETARDS

haha god that sucks for Cs and Grizz fans.

Did you see Jerry West's face??? haha he was thinking "the fuck??"

...
hawks dont get oden or durant
haha durant to the sonics
oden is a trailblazer

[Brownpants06]

goodbye, NBA


worst top 3 ever.

[LeftWideOpen]

ITS CALLED KARMA.

this is what happens WHEN YOU RESIGN DOC RIVERS

[1moreandimfree]

Yessssssssss

[StandMyBrothers]

Scott's still happy I bet

[xbrokendownx]

scott, how jacked up are you that youre gonna get durant?

[Scott Weber]

Kevin Durant Here We Come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!x

[get high]

stunned. pacific northwest......david stern could not be more pissed. no offense to nba fans up there, but thats not exactly money making territory for the league. hopefully this changes that

[1moreandimfree]

Fuck Yes!

[Scott Weber]

scott, how jacked up are you that youre gonna get durant?
fucking APE SHIT

[Drew Beringer]

ITS CALLED KARMA.

this is what happens WHEN YOU RESIGN DOC RIVERS
hhahaha yep


Conspiracy guys, NBA wants the Northwest to be awesome now.

[get high]

stunned. pacific northwest......david stern could not be more pissed. no offense to nba fans up there, but thats not exactly money making territory for the league. hopefully this changes that

[Scott Weber]

stunned. pacific northwest......david stern could not be more pissed. no offense to nba fans up there, but thats not exactly money making territory for the league. hopefully this changes that
Eat a fucking dick!

[FondestMemory]

i'm not surprised they rigged it so the huge market of portland gets oden.

[1moreandimfree]

fucking APE SHIT

YES WEEEBS. NW!!!

[get high]

oops, sorry for that double post

[bjam12]

Portland will taken Oden most likely. But Durant would be a good fit.

C - Aldridge
F - Randolph
F - Durant

That would be a tough 3.

[StandMyBrothers]

Aldrige, Oden, Roy....get rid of Randolph please

[weezer182]

Basketball in the Northwest has been very boring. Hopefully number 1 and 2 will change that. As they are saying now, this could help keep Seattle in Seattle

[Drew Beringer]

I wonder who the Bucks will take at 6. I know they want Horford from Florida but he may be gone. I would like to see them get Conley just cause I love that dude.

[bjam12]

I hope Noah goes before 9 because I don't want to see him in a Bulls uni.

[itsjdiggity]

fucking APE SHIT

5 bucks says we take the chinaman

[LeftWideOpen]

hhahaha yep


Conspiracy guys, NBA wants the Northwest to be awesome now.

fuck the NBA and there northwest bias.

[Scott Weber]

Aldrige, Oden, Roy....get rid of Randolph please
Yeah Randolph is probably on his way out of Portland

[1moreandimfree]

Im ecstatic

[xbrokendownx]

http://store.nba.com/gp/product/custom-preview/jersey.jpg/103-7953941-8443828?ie=UTF8&league=core&asin=B000JFAU6K&view=back&name=ODEN&number=20

http://store.nba.com/gp/product/custom-preview/jersey.jpg/103-7953941-8443828?ie=UTF8&league=core&asin=B000JIIK7S&view=back&name=DURANT&number=35

[get high]

gonna be nice to see kevin durant in Oklahoma City

[livethesounds]

Aldrige, Oden, Roy....get rid of Randolph please

Oden should move Aldrige to PF, they could trade away a a guy like Randolph or Outlaw for a pretty good veteran starter at off guard, and I think they could be close to a playoff team. honestly. I really liked what i saw from this team last year, but they were so young they couldnt put much together. If not next year, this team is gonna be back on top in the near future.

And Durant will be a GREAT fit in Seattle. I dont mind seeing him go to the sonics at all.

[xbrokendownx]

gonna be nice to see kevin durant in Oklahoma City






theyre playing all their games in NO

[blimpcityhero11]

Just wow... Sucks to be the Grizzlies. Seriously though... If the Hawks don't take Conley at #3, they are stupid.

[FondestMemory]

theyre playing all their games in NO

i'm sure he's dickishly referring to the sonics moving to okc.

and a jdigg sighting. nice.

[blimpcityhero11]

I hope Noah goes before 9 because I don't want to see him in a Bulls uni.

HA! Like the Bulls need another overrated, offensively-deficient big man in their front court.

[livethesounds]

5 bucks says we take the chinaman

holy crap, itsjdiggity! haha

[xbrokendownx]

hahaha chinaman

oh jdig

[get high]

theyre playing all their games in NO

i mean because seattle is moving the franchise to OK city, a more viable option for a team. i wont be there, but i think its a good city for the NBA

[blimpcityhero11]

http://store.nba.com/gp/product/custom-preview/jersey.jpg/103-7953941-8443828?ie=UTF8&league=core&asin=B000JFAU6K&view=back&name=ODEN&number=20

http://store.nba.com/gp/product/custom-preview/jersey.jpg/103-7953941-8443828?ie=UTF8&league=core&asin=B000JIIK7S&view=back&name=DURANT&number=35

$5 says that Portland changes their unis...

[trindaddy]

I hope Noah goes before 9 because I don't want to see him in a Bulls uni.


i dont like noah, but if he gets drafted by the bulls i wont be too pissed. he'd fit well with the offense with as many picks he sets in offenses. he's also used to being surrounded by excellent shooters. either him or hibbert and i'll be satisfied.

[Scott Weber]

gonna be nice to see kevin durant in Oklahoma City
get the fuck out of this thread, you buzzkill. The city STILL has time to work this out and will - especially with Durant here. I honestly believe that.

[LeftWideOpen]

not only does this fucking suck because of no Durant or Oden, but we're only 2 picks ahead of Minnesota ..so goodbye to any chance of acquiring Kevin Garnett. If they panic and deal for Jermaine O'Neal or Pau Gasol, then fuck them again (thats all i have to offer in terms of consequences because I've said it all before).

trade for garnett or stay put and draft Brendan Wright or Julian Wright.

[livethesounds]

i hate the blazers unis, the hawks are changing theirs, so i wouldnt be surprised.
on to the nba thread

[get high]

get the fuck out of this thread, you buzzkill. The city STILL has time to work this out and will - especially with Durant here. I honestly believe that.

so do i, that was basically just busting your balls in a friendly nature. the sonics have some great history

[get high]

not only does this fucking suck because of no Durant or Oden, but we're only 2 picks ahead of Minnesota ..so goodbye to any chance of acquiring Kevin Garnett. If they panic and deal for Jermaine O'Neal or Pau Gasol, then fuck them again (thats all i have to offer in terms of consequences because I've said it all before).

trade for garnett or stay put and draft Brendan Wright or Julian Wright.

boston is almost crtainly going to take Yi Jianlan

[trindaddy]

sonics aren't going anywhere now. durant will fill their seats, and change peoples minds.

[livethesounds]

get the fuck out of this thread, you buzzkill. The city STILL has time to work this out and will - especially with Durant here. I honestly believe that.

i hope so, i want the sonics to stay there

[Drew Beringer]

Now I hope the Bucks draft Conley.

[Scott Weber]

so amppppppppppppppppppppppped!

[LeftWideOpen]

Just wow... Sucks to be the Grizzlies. Seriously though... If the Hawks don't take Conley at #3, they are stupid.

if anyone takes conley over b. wright, j.wright or corey brewer ..they may be kevin mchale/danny ainge retarded.

[LeftWideOpen]

boston is almost crtainly going to take Yi Jianlan

ya the last thing we need is another 5 year project.

fucking christ ..weber, ban me from this thread. its for my own good. i need to stop talking about this

[Drew Beringer]

I really want an Oden jersey but the Blazers unis are just so disgusting.

[Scott Weber]

ya the last thing we need is another 5 year project.

fucking christ ..weber, ban me from this thread. its for my own good. i need to stop talking about this
nope, i love watching people squirm!

[Drew Beringer]

Hahaha, I honestly really feel bad for you.

I can't wait to read Bill Simmons article on this, of course, hoping he didn't die.

[get high]

i would not be overwhelmed if durant went 1 because of aldridge. any other scenario, maybe not milwaukee, oden would be a guarantee

[LeftWideOpen]

this is worse than tim duncan.

[Drew Beringer]

LeftWideOpen, at least the Sox are winning.

[Scott Weber]

i would not be overwhelmed if durant went 1 because of aldridge. any other scenario, maybe not milwaukee, oden would be a guarantee
Aldridge is more of a 4 though, leaves Randolph as the odd man out

[LeftWideOpen]

i would not be overwhelmed if durant went 1 because of aldridge. any other scenario, maybe not milwaukee, oden would be a guarantee

alridge is a 4, in a perfect situation. Oden is that situation.

seriously, portland may become a dynasty. Oden, Roy and Aldridge ..fuck me.

[get high]

Aldridge is more of a 4 though, leaves Randolph as the odd man out

i see aldridge as a 5 man, he just has to bulk up, and randolph is a solid 4 man in reality. stick durant at the 3 and roy at the 2. that team would have unreal potential

[LeftWideOpen]

LeftWideOpen, at least the Sox are winning.

who are these red sox you speak of?

all i know right now is ping pong balls and death.

[bjam12]

this is worse than tim duncan.

I don't think Oden will have as good of a career as Duncan.

[LeftWideOpen]

i'm a 5 minute walk from the Garden and there is a bar right next door to me. When the Celtics were announced at #5, my building might as well have shook. People are still yelling

[Drew Beringer]

who are these red sox you speak of?

all i know right now is ping pong balls and death.
hahaha
I don't think Oden will have as good of a career as Duncan.

I personally think Oden could become more dominant than Duncan.

[fire on my lips]

LeftWideOpen, at least the Sox are winning.

Hopefully that'll change. I hope Bill Simmons has a column tomorrow.

The NBA has to be pretty disappointed since this draft will only make the West better. At least now there will be some great match ups against Duncan.

[get high]

i'm a 5 minute walk from the Garden and there is a bar right next door to me. When the Celtics were announced at #5, my building might as well have shook. People are still yelling

i cant imagine the hysterics that are probably going on in boston right now

[trindaddy]

aldrige is much more of a power forward than a center. it would be a mistake to take durant. sure he would help them probably win more games this year, but in the long run a player like oden isn't an asset easily acquired. big physical centers with this much potential do not come to the draft every year. good guards however do.
dont get me wrong, any team in the draft would be thrilled to have durant. just with the number one pick you have to get the guy who is going to give you a focal point for many years.

[get high]

Hopefully that'll change. I hope Bill Simmons has a column tomorrow.

The NBA has to be pretty disappointed since this draft will only make the West better. At least now there will be some great match ups against Duncan.

what are you doing outside of the football (soccer) forum?

[Drew Beringer]

Boston will need the Red Sox and Patriots to win championships this year to make this pain go away haha

[LeftWideOpen]

maybe this is david stern's way of giving a huge middle finger to tanking teams.

[fire on my lips]

what are you doing outside of the football (soccer) forum?

I venture out occassionally when to kill time and talk college basketball.
Your conspiracy theory really proved true... I thought it would happen to be honest. I can't believe that David Stern let the top two go to the West.

[Drew Beringer]

Left, go post in the MLB thread. It'll make you feel better.

[LeftWideOpen]

Left, go post in the MLB thread. It'll make you feel better.

no. i just need to drink. all i will do is be the debbie downer of the MLB thread

[Drew Beringer]

Well Papi just hit a RBI double!

[Scott Weber]

Boston will need the Red Sox and Patriots to win championships this year to make this pain go away haha
Boston fans can play the world's smallest fucking violin, they have nothing to complain about compared to Seattle.

[fire on my lips]

no. i just need to drink. all i will do is be the debbie downer of the MLB thread

i was hoping for the yankees to sweep and have this series be a turning point of the season, but 7-2 is going to be tough.

Boston still has two great teams and two shitty ones.

[Drew Beringer]

Boston fans can play the world's smallest fucking violin, they have nothing to complain about compared to Seattle.
haha, I'm just fuckin around Weeeebs. Nice avatar btw

[Drew Beringer]

haha anyone else notice when they showed the Boston lottery party that fan was holding a Boston Oden jersey. Haha, biggest waste of 70 bucks ever hahahaha

[LeftWideOpen]

Boston fans can play the world's smallest fucking violin, they have nothing to complain about compared to Seattle.

i'd rather have a team w/ no history than a team that was once the envy of the league and has spent the last 15(!) years as the joke of the league.

the celtics are boston. the excitement behind the best years of the celtics = the red sox now. The Patriots dont even compare to both of these.

edit: and the reason for this is that the Patriots play 30-40 minutes south of Boston. The city itself doesnt live and die by them like the Sox or Celtics.

[Drew Beringer]

Since the Pacers don't have a lottery pick, I hope they make some deals on draft night. I would love to see them move up to try and get Conley. If Conley can end up on the Bucks though, I'll be happy (haha that's like the fifth time I've said that).

[Drew Beringer]

The Boston curse is even on the Pacers, as Larry Bird can't make a good deal or move to save that team's life.

[get high]

Boston fans can play the world's smallest fucking violin, they have nothing to complain about compared to Seattle.

they take their sports lik they take their catholicism though, its everything to them. everything.

love the avatar too

[Scott Weber]

There are die hard sports fans everywhere.

[blinkingfoo]

Boston fans can play the world's smallest fucking violin, they have nothing to complain about compared to Seattle.

try living in Philadelphia

[blimpcityhero11]

if anyone takes conley over b. wright, j.wright or corey brewer ..they may be kevin mchale/danny ainge retarded.

Yes...Just what Atlanta needs, another small forward. They passed on Chris Paul AND Deron Williams for Marvin Williams. Undoubtedly one of the dumbest draft moves in the past couple of years. It'll be sad if they pass on a point guard again.

[get high]

There are die hard sports fans everywhere.

obviously. but its literally everyone in the new england area. every soul, maybe 3 or 4 out of millions arent dead serious about boston sports. and that sounds like much more of an exaggeration than it really is.

i hate boston sports and their fans personally. but im definitely willing to admit that their teams have the largest and most dedicated following in sports, hands down

[Scott Weber]

You know, I am actually happier with the 2nd pick, even though that sounds weird. There is no possible way for this franchise to fuck this up. You get Oden, or you get Durant. Both fill needs. Then, you're not second guessing yourself if the other turns out to be the bigger star.

[Drew Beringer]

You know, I am actually happier with the 2nd pick, even though that sounds weird. There is no possible way for this franchise to fuck this up. You get Oden, or you get Durant. Both fill needs. Then, you're not second guessing yourself if the other turns out to be the bigger star.
That's exactly what I told my dad last night, it's a no pressure pick.

[LeftWideOpen]

Yes...Just what Atlanta needs, another small forward. They passed on Chris Paul AND Deron Williams for Marvin Williams. Undoubtedly one of the dumbest draft moves in the past couple of years. It'll be sad if they pass on a point guard again.

hey i'm not a physician, but someone who is 6'9 or 6'10 and played PF in college is probably going to be a power forward. That makes both Wrights a good choice for Atlanta. Personally, I think Brandan Wright is clearly the #3 prospect

and anyone doubting the degree of fanaticism in new england, especially massachusetts, is speaking out of ignoranance. i'm not saying that fanaticism is anything to be proud of lol, i'm just saying it is there.

[teddy]

You know, I am actually happier with the 2nd pick, even though that sounds weird. There is no possible way for this franchise to fuck this up. You get Oden, or you get Durant. Both fill needs. Then, you're not second guessing yourself if the other turns out to be the bigger star.

Fuck yes.

Something finally to get excited about for the Sonics.

[Scott Weber]

hey i'm not a physician, but someone who is 6'9 or 6'10 and played PF in college is probably going to be a power forward. That makes both Wrights a good choice for Atlanta. Personally, I think Brandan Wright is clearly the #3 prospect

and anyone doubting the degree of fanaticism in new england, especially massachusetts, is speaking out of ignoranance. i'm not saying that fanaticism is anything to be proud of lol, i'm just saying it is there.
Nobody's doubting it...it's just a matter of a large amount of recent success in 2 major sports and complaining about EVERYTHING. It doesn't ring true/fair to fans from a lot of other cities.

[get high]

Nobody's doubting it...it's just a matter of a large amount of recent success in 2 major sports and complaining about EVERYTHING. It doesn't ring true/fair to fans from a lot of other cities.

obviously. but its literally everyone in the new england area. every soul, maybe 3 or 4 out of millions arent dead serious about boston sports. and that sounds like much more of an exaggeration than it really is.

i hate boston sports and their fans personally. but im definitely willing to admit that their teams have the largest and most dedicated following in sports, hands down


...

[Scott Weber]

what the fuck?

[LeftWideOpen]

Nobody's doubting it...it's just a matter of a large amount of recent success in 2 major sports and complaining about EVERYTHING. It doesn't ring true/fair to fans from a lot of other cities.

oh, i agree ..and thats why I believe Boston (along with New York and Philly ..maybe even Chicago, to a lesser extent) is a unique situation. Boston is a 4 sport city where they are diehard about every sport. This attitude also results in a lot of complaining. The highs are higher than ever and the lows seem lower than ever. You'd think Jeremy Jacobs and Doc Rivers got together and bombed the Prudential Center by the way they are perceived in Boston. It was the same for Pete Carroll and Dan Duquette.

i think the degree to which this city *cares* about its sports teams is unparralleled. Philly and New York might make as many headlines for disgruntled fans, but Boston fans have consistently shown to be grateful for even the slightest amount of success. Fuck, Steve Grogan was a legend for a decade just because the Patriots had some success. Don't even get me started on the way this city thinks of Larry Bird, Bobby Orr and even Tom Brady or David Ortiz already.

i'm not passing judgment on any other major city and its sports teams. I'm not saying the way Boston approches its teams is healthy (in any way) or the right way. All I am saying is that no other city *lives* and dies by its teams more than Boston.

edit: and thats why tonight was so heartbreaking, especially after losing the lottery that would have brought us Tim Duncan.

[get high]

what the fuck?

if thats to me, i'll try to clarify. the fans there cannot be satisfied. their lives completely revolve around their sports teams, and it is a truly sad state of affairs. it is literally religion and obsession to the point of illness. you couldn;t fathom it unless you;ve seen it personally. and it is virtually every soul in new england, age, sex, race, anything makes no difference

[Scott Weber]

oh, i agree ..and thats why I believe Boston (along with New York and Philly ..maybe even Chicago, to a lesser extent) is a unique situation. Boston is a 4 sport city where they are diehard about every sport. This attitude also results in a lot of complaining. The highs are higher than ever and the lows seem lower than ever. You'd think Jeremy Jacobs and Doc Rivers got together and bombed the Prudential Center by the way they are perceived in Boston. It was the same for Pete Carroll and Dan Duquette.

i think the degree to which this city *cares* about its sports teams is unparralleled. Philly and New York might make as many headlines for disgruntled fans, but Boston fans have consistently shown to be grateful for even the slightest amount of success. Fuck, Steve Grogan was a legend for a decade just because the Patriots had some success. Don't even get me started on the way this city thinks of Larry Bird, Bobby Orr and even Tom Brady or David Ortiz already.

i'm not passing judgment on any other major city and its sports teams. I'm not saying the way Boston approches its teams is healthy (in any way) or the right way. All I am saying is that no other city *lives* and dies by its teams more than Boston.

edit: and thats why tonight was so heartbreaking, especially after losing the lottery that would have brought us Tim Duncan.
Right, and I understand - but from an OUTSIDER's perspective it is obnoxious and unfair, to be honest. That is all I saying. It is a matter of perspective - it is nothing to be debated, get high.

[get high]

Right, and I understand - but from an OUTSIDER's perspective it is obnoxious and unfair, to be honest. That is all I saying. It is a matter of perspective - it is nothing to be debated, get high.

not sure what you're going at. i am an outsider to the boston sports scene, but i have seen what it encompasses, and it makes me sick, honestly. i'm not debating sports towns, you're right there is no debate, boston is the most disturbingly dedicated town there is.

[Scott Weber]

not sure what you're going at. i am an outsider to the boston sports scene, but i have seen what it encompasses, and it makes me sick, honestly. i'm not debating sports towns, you're right there is no debate, boston is the most disturbingly dedicated town there is.
....how can you not see what I'm getting at........I've said it like 3 times now.......

[teddy]

....how can you not see what I'm getting at........I've said it like 3 times now.......

He isn't too bright.

[AshesAshes]

I get to see Durant/Oden 4 times a season that should be nice.

[StandMyBrothers]

Nate McMillan is probably one happy camper

[Scott Weber]

So, Portland dealing Randolph and future #1 to take Mike Conley?

[get high]

....how can you not see what I'm getting at........I've said it like 3 times now.......

been drinking

[Scott Weber]

been drinking
are you ever sober? ever?

[get high]

So, Portland dealing Randolph and future #1 to take Mike Conley?

what? randolph has all-star potential, conley looks like a very possibl wash-up. randolph for a pick to take conlet straight up makes zero sense

[xbrokendownx]

conley looks like a wash up?



you really have been drinking havent you

[get high]

are you ever sober? ever?

at work. i deal with a lot of stress at work, and live with a bunch of former frat guys, all in our younger twenties. forgive me

[LeftWideOpen]

1st time ive ever heard a 19 year old kid be labeled as washed up.

[Scott Weber]

what? randolph has all-star potential, conley looks like a very possibl wash-up. randolph for a pick to take conlet straight up makes zero sense
Wow....stop posting. Blazers taking Oden leaves them with 3 big men. Somebody's got to go. They don't have a PG. Conley is a huge talent. Wants to play with Oden. Been playing with him since HS. Projected top 10 pick. Do the math.

[xbrokendownx]

i could see Chicago being interested in Zach Randolph at #9


i dont know if they want to deal with his off the court things though

[get high]

Wow....stop posting. Blazers taking Oden leaves them with 3 big men. Somebody's got to go. They don't have a PG. Conley is a huge talent. Wants to play with Oden. Been playing with him since HS. Projected top 10 pick. Do the math.

this is why i think 5 - aldridge, 4- randolph, 3 - durant, 2- roy, 1- jack is not out of the question

loads of potential there