Wyclef Jean To Produce One New Cartel Song

[Rohan Kohli]

According to a recent CMJ article (http://prod1.cmj.com/articles/display_article.php?id=38047277), Wyclef Jean will be producing a song on Cartel (http://www.drpepperbubble.com)'s forthcoming record on Thursday, June 7th. And Amanda Bynes will be stopping by to personally ask the band for a song in her next movie on Monday.

[irthesteve]

hmmm, hopefully Wyclef wants to approach it as a rock song, not as a way to make a rock / hip-hop genre-bending thing...

[mewithcoldplay]

this could be huge.

[[Brendan]]

Hmm Ghetto Superstar V2.0 anyone?

[neo506]

lol Wyclef on Cartel and Babyface on FOBs album...

whos next? Montell Jordan?

[konstantine94]

When I was lurking them today, I could have sworn I heard the name Amanda Bynes. Turns out I'm not crazy.

[csims06]

this could be huge.


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha

[drivethruaz]

move over timbaland and fall out boy

[Jason Tate]

http://www.stevebroome.com/myspace/amanda-bynes.jpg

Can I use your song in my movie? Gnaaaaaaar!

[Jason Tate]

06/02 - Harlem Boys & Girls Choir record two tracks
06/03 - Mass harmonica audition
06/04 - Knicks City Dancers perform a routine to a Cartel song
06/05 - Amanda Bynes stops by
06/06 - Surprise guests
06/07 - Winner of the Dr Pepper Cartel design announced
06/08 - Wyclef visit

I have no words.

[Bury Your Head]

And TI Is remixing the curse of curves for shaant.

[konstantine94]

http://www.stevebroome.com/myspace/amanda-bynes.jpg

Can I use your song in my movie? Gnaaaaaaar!

Jesus Christ Jason, I started laughing so hard at that, I almost spit my water out all over my laptop. This isn't the first time you've cracked me up though.

[stacymichelle]

that. rules.

[oldprospector]

what a fucking circus

[Chris Fallon]

When Amanda Bynes asks if they will put one of their songs in her movie, it would be really funny if they all contemplated for a really long time, mulling it over as she waits in anticipation, then Will says, "I'm sorry, Kirstie Alley, but we have never been big fans of yours. Obviously, though, you are a ... heh, heh ... big fan of ours ... heh, heh."

[lyunya]

cartel is officially dead to me.

[Nolessthanblink]

Wow Jason... the hits just keep coming from these guys eh?

[ItAintMeBabe]

amanda bynes.....

isn't hot.

[domesticyeti]

i wonder if the band requested wyclef jean to produce, or if this was something just thrown at them by the show.

[tm decomposer]

This is pathetic

[3GunGaz]

I am speechless............ (apart from that.. and that.)

[jmccamb]

http://www.stevebroome.com/myspace/amanda-bynes.jpg

Can I use your song in my movie? Gnaaaaaaar!



hahaha

[DivisionStreet]

Good God, this album better be good after all this shit.

[jhennis]

06/02 - Harlem Boys & Girls Choir record two tracks
06/03 - Mass harmonica audition
06/04 - Knicks City Dancers perform a routine to a Cartel song
06/05 - Amanda Bynes stops by
06/06 - Surprise guests
06/07 - Winner of the Dr Pepper Cartel design announced
06/08 - Wyclef visit

I have no words.
Then stop having your "staff" make Cartel news posts.

[brentkid]

Cartel is making it really hard for me to still respect them through this.

[brentkid]

Then stop having your "staff" make Cartel news posts.
Oh yes, what a good idea!

[dukie_04]

mmm next fall out boy?!?!

[[Brendan]]

http://www.stevebroome.com/myspace/amanda-bynes.jpg

Can I use your song in my movie? Gnaaaaaaar!
Dang I'm sure I saw a movie once where she went on a rampage and destroyed Tokyo.

[dubey]

Cartel is making it really hard for me to still respect them through this.
Pretty sure they've lost the respect of everyone on this site. And I agree that they probably shouldn't be getting any coverage on this site either.

[ZeoVGM]

mmm next fall out boy?!?!

Uh, no.

By the way uh.. The Amanda Bynes was a joke, right?

...

[Chancetobe]

:hitself:

[ThatGuy]

that's a pretty awful picture of amanda bynes. she's not that ugly in person. but she is kind of a bitch

[iamonlyfiction]

i'm not one to talk shit, but fuck this band. as soon as andy left, its been downhill from there ever since.

[shermanology]

Remember when everyone here loved this band, said they were great guys, said they deserved to get big?

[Throwback]

Remember when everyone here loved this band, said they were great guys, said they deserved to get big?
2005 was a good year.

[steve-0]

I guess I'll be the guy who says that I will reserve judgment for them once I hear the album.

[tacosforcharles]

This is getting worse and worse and worse. Wow.

[gladnads]

http://www.stevebroome.com/myspace/amanda-bynes.jpg

Can I use your song in my movie? Gnaaaaaaar!

I came here to mention this image and you had it <3

[CurtyB]

06/02 - Harlem Boys & Girls Choir record two tracks
06/03 - Mass harmonica audition
06/04 - Knicks City Dancers perform a routine to a Cartel song
06/05 - Amanda Bynes stops by
06/06 - Surprise guests
06/07 - Winner of the Dr Pepper Cartel design announced
06/08 - Wyclef visit

I have no words.


wow...i seriously couldnt figure out whether everything was a joke....that is too bad...i love cartel but i dont know if i can allow myself to take this CD seriously...

[xdrummerxdudex]

dear ashley, thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaat's MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!


wow i miss old school all that.


plus does this make cartel "sellouts" for doing this dr. pepper thing?

[Anthony Lutz]

When Amanda Bynes asks if they will put one of their songs in her movie, it would be really funny if they all contemplated for a really long time, mulling it over as she waits in anticipation, then Will says, "I'm sorry, Kirstie Alley, but we have never been big fans of yours. Obviously, though, you are a ... heh, heh ... big fan of ours ... heh, heh."

That was actually pretty funny! But seriously, how does Cartel expect the fans that they had to stay with them after this is all said and done? I mean, they're just asking to be called sell outs at this point. I loved the Ransom EP and Chroma, but Jesus Christ, there's only so much one can take!

[NJUNDERDOG]

i really hope this bubble crap doesnt ruin them

[SAOSIN7years]

Wow this show is so spontaneous! I LOVE REALITY TV...




...if there's boobs.

[IAmAmazing]

As I'm listenning to "Burn This City", maybe I will go burn down that fucking bubble.

[AShannon04]

I guess I'll be the guy who says that I will reserve judgment for them once I hear the album.

same. As much as some of this news bums me out, they are still one of their favorite bands and I hope that this produces a good album.

[mewithcoldplay]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha

you have beef with wyclef? ha.

[jaboonta]

http://www.stevebroome.com/myspace/amanda-bynes.jpg

Can I use your song in my movie? Gnaaaaaaar!

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha holy shit thats pretty funny

[gladnads]

Oh man, found this just a moment ago.

http://img.waffleimages.com/b2256ceffd63366e30ba5123e0adad0a325 5b3a4/Bynes.gif

[LTJ182]

I think Hoppus wanted to do something as well; but scheduling didnt work with him being on tour. I would have loved to see people make fun of that

[failingwithease]

Someone explain this show to me. All I know is there's a bubble.

[cory-182]

Man I loved Cartel last two releases but everything about their major label debut just seems like a gimmick.

[chcougar1]

Remember when everyone here loved this band, said they were great guys, said they deserved to get big?

Yeah. the people on this site are pathetic sometimes. People have known from the start that Cartel was a band that has wanted to be mainstream from the start. I hate the fact that people on here feel that they need to talk shit or write bands off just because they get a lot of sponsors or work with famous producers and celebrities. At the end of the day, what matters is how the music sounds....If the album absolutely tanks then you guys will be right, but seriously if the album is great then it doesnt really matter how it was made.

/rant

[C.R.U.X]

mmm next fall out boy?!?!

No. Cartel would never have imagined to work with a producer like Wyclif if Fall Out Boy had never worked with Babyface and Timbaland.

[C.R.U.X]

do they actually record music or just talk all day?

[GQis...]

wow they're getting so much publicity. i'll be surprised if they're not huge anytime soon

[Jason Tate]

Yeah. the people on this site are pathetic sometimes. People have known from the start that Cartel was a band that has wanted to be mainstream from the start. I hate the fact that people on here feel that they need to talk shit or write bands off just because they get a lot of sponsors or work with famous producers and celebrities. At the end of the day, what matters is how the music sounds....If the album absolutely tanks then you guys will be right, but seriously if the album is great then it doesnt really matter how it was made.

/rant

More than the music matters.

[pleasegoodmusic]

Yeah. the people on this site are pathetic sometimes. People have known from the start that Cartel was a band that has wanted to be mainstream from the start. I hate the fact that people on here feel that they need to talk shit or write bands off just because they get a lot of sponsors or work with famous producers and celebrities. At the end of the day, what matters is how the music sounds....If the album absolutely tanks then you guys will be right, but seriously if the album is great then it doesnt really matter how it was made.

/rant

Wrong. It's impossible to separate music from its context. Everything, from the way the band looks, acts, and performs, to their music videos, press photos, and album art affects the way you feel about them, and you'd be lying if you said otherwise. No matter how this album turns out (and I'm sure it'll be chock-ful of "really fun" songs that are "catchy as hell"), the band will forever be tarnished by this stunt. And really, can you imagine any serious publication giving this album a good review? Even if it ends up being the next OK Computer, no critic is going to feel comfortable giving a positive review to a record that was recorded during a publicity stunt that was subsidized by mega-corporations. Cartel isn't taking their record seriously, and in turn, no one else will.

[eRRRin]

do they actually record music or just talk all day?

they record =]
its actually really interesting to watch how its all done, its a lot harder than i ever thought.

[spezialk]

i wonder if the band requested wyclef jean to produce, or if this was something just thrown at them by the show.

I'm pretty sure its something Dr.Pepper/MTV threw at them..
I mean, think about it.. this could respark Wyclef's career, since he's been downhill for a few years now.

But seriously,
I don't know why everyone is hating on Cartel so much right now.
So what, that they took an offer by MTV to do this publicity stunt.
So what, if it helps them sell a million records.
Isn't that the main objective of a band? To sell records and make music?
Guess what.. that's what Cartel is doing right now!
Ive heard 3-4 of the new tracks (live) and they sound great, something I'd expect from Cartel.
I'm almost positive they will put out another awesome record, even if it can't top The Minstrel's Prayer -> Q -> A ... that trio of songs was amazing!
Oh well.. hate if you want to, but despite the publicity and such, I'm pretty damn sure that Cartel will NOT make a bad record, especially since more options and doors opened to them from this huge risk they're taking.

[1.8Nate]

On a lighter note, I saw New Atlantic's video for "Wire and Stone" the other day. Will was in it and he looked happy, like "hey, I'm singing with my friends in a video and not in a fucking bubble". So great.

[Jason Tate]

I'm pretty sure its something Dr.Pepper/MTV threw at them..
I mean, think about it.. this could respark Wyclef's career, since he's been downhill for a few years now.

But seriously,
I don't know why everyone is hating on Cartel so much right now.
So what, that they took an offer by MTV to do this publicity stunt.
So what, if it helps them sell a million records.
Isn't that the main objective of a band? To sell records and make music?
Guess what.. that's what Cartel is doing right now!
Ive heard 3-4 of the new tracks (live) and they sound great, something I'd expect from Cartel.
I'm almost positive they will put out another awesome record, even if it can't top The Minstrel's Prayer -> Q -> A ... that trio of songs was amazing!
Oh well.. hate if you want to, but despite the publicity and such, I'm pretty damn sure that Cartel will NOT make a bad record, especially since more options and doors opened to them from this huge risk they're taking.
I think most people are therefore hating on this because of the belief that it will not help them sell more records.

[Adrian Villagomez]

;6681200']Hmm Ghetto Superstar V2.0 anyone?Holy crap man, it's been a long time Brendan. Where ya been?

I don't really see a problem with Jean producing a Cartel track. I'm not familiar with his work (except his duet with The Rock, lol), so I can't say it's a bad idea.

[spezialk]

On a lighter note, I saw New Atlantic's video for "Wire and Stone" the other day. Will was in it and he looked happy, like "hey, I'm singing with my friends in a video and not in a fucking bubble". So great.

Yes, its a good video.. But..
I'm positive that if Will or anyone was unhappy with the idea, they wouldn't have done it.
I mean, MTV could have easily gotten Good Charlotte or someone else to do it haha

[Maxx42]

Am I the only one that hears all this stupid shit they're doing to try and hawk their record that just wants to choke them all to death. They should call the cd "The biggest gimmick in the entire world". It just hurts to think how good chroma was and how this band absolutely means nothing to me anymore.

And did anyone see the fake fight that Wil got into with his "girlfriend" on the phone? It was on one of the commercials, I refuse to watch this circus, but cmon. I'm just wondering if Wil's gunna go on a second date, or take the money.

[emerypearl]

ghetto?

[Jamais_vu]

So Tate, you've dumped your babies Cartel because of this shit but you still back Fall out boy after all the BS they have pulled? /confused.

[Jason Tate]

So Tate, you've dumped your babies Cartel because of this shit but you still back Fall out boy after all the BS they have pulled? /confused.
1) Where have I said I dumped Cartel?

2) What has Fall Out Boy done on this level?

/You should be confused, you have everything wrong.

[Adrian Villagomez]

1) Where have I said I dumped Cartel?

2) What has Fall Out Boy done on this level?

/You should be confused, you have everything wrong.Hey Jason, I just read through that bubble journal entry of yours, and this paragraph struck me the most:

So what's this do? The band was selling around 200,000 copies of Chroma. That's roughly what FOB did with their debut. Who's to say Cartel would not have been able to (sans bubble) release their next album and achieve FUCT like status? I had enough faith in the band to do this - apparently the band themselves didn't have enough faith that they could. Apparently ditto for the record label.This is very close to how I feel. Cartel's last album seemed like it was on the verge of launching them to great success, but it didn't quite make them 'stars.' It did sell a desirable amount of records though, and they'd built up a buzz. Their follow-up to Chroma had the potential to make them the next great pop-punk/rock band, but for whatever reason they lacked faith in releasing an album on their own terms. It's a disappointing thing to witness, especially since we'll never know how well they would've done on their own without dr. pepper (I know I would've placed some bets on them).

[C.R.U.X]

I didn't even know they were pushing 200,000. You would think that amount of records sold would encourage you to not get desperate, but just push through it. Well maybe not desperate, more impatient..

[C.R.U.X]

Go to the Dr Pepper bubble website, the choir are in there right now recording.

[Joe DeAndrea]

http://www.stevebroome.com/myspace/amanda-bynes.jpg

Can I use your song in my movie? Gnaaaaaaar!

Good god. Why can't she look like this again?:

http://www2.egotastic.com/media/pictures/0607/amanda-bynes-bikini-pictures.jpg

[xpolaris]

As much as I love Cartel.. I don't know what to make of them after this.
I'll just wait till their album release...

I think this is going to make anyone as unsure as I am that.. the new album better be great.

[xpolaris]

although from what I've heard so far.. It's sounding pretty good.

[LTJ182]

1) Where have I said I dumped Cartel?

2) What has Fall Out Boy done on this level?

/You should be confused, you have everything wrong.


to answer #2 with Two words...Pete Wentz. He is a circus in and among himself. from penis pics on the internet to the guyliner interview with People magazine. Its not about the music for him anymore; much like two dudes from a band I still really like, who's latest record has NOT done soo good. feel me?

[Jason Tate]

to answer #2 with Two words...Pete Wentz. He is a circus in and among himself. from penis pics on the internet to the guyliner interview with People magazine. Its not about the music for him anymore; much like two dudes from a band I still really like, who's latest record has NOT done soo good. feel me?
No idea what the fuck you're talking about.

So -- if you want to actually answer the question - have at it.

[Melissa Johnson]

http://www.stevebroome.com/myspace/amanda-bynes.jpg

Can I use your song in my movie? Gnaaaaaaar!
I'd find it more hilarious if they told her "no", but I don't see that happening.

[C.R.U.X]

They have probably been told what to say. Robots.

[baton]

i tried to not to think about it at all but it happened, i stopped waiting for this album at all, still will check this out and i hope it will surprise me and be as good as let's say q and a

[holdontightly]

amazing what a joke cartel has become...

[mr chainsaw]

This band is gonna get a huge ego from all this attention. They weren't that special or original in the first place though.

[kennyhall]

I guess i'm in the minority here, but i could really careless what the hell they do, if they put out a good album and i like it, it will be on my ipod. when you are listening to the music, you cant hear any of this controverisal news, you hear the music, so unless you were once good friends with them and they totally changed and were all of a sudden big dicks to u or something, you dont really have a reason to complain about all this stuff their doing, it doesnt hurt you...

Kenny

[PunkYeah]

kewl!X-)

[solargrrl]

This band is gonna get a huge ego from all this attention. They weren't that special or original in the first place though.

Honestly, how much of an ego were they LACKING in the first place? I don't think its about ego. I think its a loss of sanity.

At any rate, comparing Chroma to whatever FOB has done is moot. I mean, does Cartel want to be compared to FOB? no. How many re-releases? Eh. What's the period of time?

Like I've said before, if Cartel wants to sell 500k and be a flash in the pan fine. But what's the lifetime value of any fans derived from Dr. Pepper? Eh, nil, I'm gonna guess.

Everyone all has their panties in a wad, that people who used to be behind Cartel (me included) are all up in arms with this. Fact is, we expected more from them. The business isn't just music anymore, and you know it, no matter what you think. Especially when everythings already been done.

There is so much to this under the covers that it just turns our stomachs. So what. And, we want to keep talking about it because we expect more for the bands that we put our necks out for. Especially when its a public neck, like some people around here (not me,lol).

[brentkid]

I guess i'm in the minority here, but i could really careless what the hell they do, if they put out a good album and i like it, it will be on my ipod. when you are listening to the music, you cant hear any of this controverisal news, you hear the music, so unless you were once good friends with them and they totally changed and were all of a sudden big dicks to u or something, you dont really have a reason to complain about all this stuff their doing, it doesnt hurt you...

Kenny

You don't speak for everyone. Some people like to know the artist really cares about what they're putting out. I know I'm one of those people. I loved Cartel because I thought they were good guys putting out music that would blow up due to their great talent. I don't respect what they're doing because it's nothing but a gimmick. Tate has put up hard statistics showing how this website is stacking up to Cartel's Dr. Pepper site - it's a sad realization for Cartel. There are ways to put yourself out there without it looking ridiculous. Unfortunately the boys of Cartel seem to skipped over that little detail and resorted to a gimmick that really won't help in the long run.

So yeah, just because you will love whatever is plopped into your hands, doesn't mean everyone else will.

[solargrrl]

Guess they sold 1,558 records last week, I suppose those DRP dollars are doing more than wiping their asses.

[kbauer]

it keeps getting better and by that i mean worse

[Jason Tate]

Guess they sold 1,558 records last week, I suppose those DRP dollars are doing more than wiping their asses.

That's what they've been selling before this too ... and it's roughly what Sherwoods been selling.

[solargrrl]

That's what they've been selling before this too ... and it's roughly what Sherwoods been selling.

Yeah, I know. I really need to brush up on my one liner online sarcasm. You need to give lessons :) Ha!

[pleasegoodmusic]

That's what they've been selling before this too ... and it's roughly what Sherwoods been selling.

Wow, that's sad. It's like the way that Pink is the number one artist on pop radio right now, but only sells around 14k a week. All of the big media outlets aren't guaranteed to sell records anymore.

[Jamais_vu]

1) Where have I said I dumped Cartel?

2) What has Fall Out Boy done on this level?

/You should be confused, you have everything wrong.

First, I have neither the time nor the inclination to argue semantics with you, which is what you do best when you argue with no basis. However, it would seem you are pissed at Cartel, as you should be. So point 1 check. Fall out boy has corporate sponsors, incorporate R&B producers, have their own action figures, grace the covers of teeny magazines, unleash terrible bands into the world(PANIC!), appeared on cribs MTV, hosted MTV shows, and also they lied about being signed to a major. They in fact were up streamed, or down streamed, whatever you call it. Oh yea, and why aren't they allowed to talk about that first record? That's everyone's little secret too. I'm sure there are at least 50 other things that could be mentioned but that is just a start. :)

[Ryan Imhof]

Cartel used to be my favorite band.

What was I thinking.

[Jason Tate]

First, I have neither the time nor the inclination to argue semantics with you, which is what you do best when you argue with no basis.

Well, semantics matter. Not sure how you don't get that.

However, it would seem you are pissed at Cartel, as you should be.So point 1 check.

Point one was that I "dumped Cartel" - that would imply I no longer support the band, post about the band, talk about the band, and so forth. None of which is true.

Fall out boy has corporate sponsors, incorporate R&B producers, have their own action figures, grace the covers of teeny magazines, unleash terrible bands into the world(PANIC!), appeared on cribs MTV, hosted MTV shows, and also they lied about being signed to a major. They in fact were up streamed, or down streamed, whatever you call it. Oh yea, and why aren't they allowed to talk about that first record? That's everyone's little secret too. I'm sure there are at least 50 other things that could be mentioned but that is just a start. :)

None of which are on the level of this act (and many of these things aren't true, and others that are true can be explained quite easily).

[EmilyRegina]

Oh my god, what next??? Britney Spears as their back-up dancer? It gets worse and worse.

[giovanni_c]

I just hope the next album's good and honest, and that no part of the band makes a Wentz of themself.

[brentkid]

First, I have neither the time nor the inclination to argue semantics with you, which is what you do best when you argue with no basis. However, it would seem you are pissed at Cartel, as you should be. So point 1 check. Fall out boy has corporate sponsors, incorporate R&B producers, have their own action figures, grace the covers of teeny magazines, unleash terrible bands into the world(PANIC!), appeared on cribs MTV, hosted MTV shows, and also they lied about being signed to a major. They in fact were up streamed, or down streamed, whatever you call it. Oh yea, and why aren't they allowed to talk about that first record? That's everyone's little secret too. I'm sure there are at least 50 other things that could be mentioned but that is just a start. :)
lol.