Orange amps

[guitarhead913]

anyone play one?
im thinking about buying the head with the double band eq with the 4x12 cab, but i havent heard what people think of them, no one i know plays them

[untitled94]

ive never played one but ive seen a couple dudes play them before and they sounded excellent.
if you have the cash then go for it

[Sargent Sausage]

there excelent amps , but my god they are pricey as hell

[HowSoonIsNow]

if i had the money to buy an orange i would certainly do it.

[milkman_332211]

Double band EQ, really? I haven't seen one with that. But anyways, yeah, don't get anything like the 100 watt, don't go over 50 watts if your gonna buy one. What's the point of buying a fucking amazing amp like that and not even pushing your tubes, ya know? The v30's sound so good too. Also the fact that the cab doesn't have like anything in between the ground and the bottom of the cab, gives it more low end. Like idk. I hope that helps. Oh yeah, and don't turn the gain more than half up, ever. Low end over gain.


Matt

[patrickhowell]

Orange Amps are great, but they're really overpriced (much like Gibson guitars). I wouldn't fork over that kind of cash unless you're sure that's EXACTLY what you want. In any other case, you can get the same quality (or better) for a much lower price from a different manufacturer.

[Bruycker]

Me and my friend both have one, amazing amp, but you should be a fan of the sound... Not good for metal Music...

[patrickhowell]

Me and my friend both have one, amazing amp, but you should be a fan of the sound... Not good for metal Music...

Actually, Orange amps can be great for metal music. I mean, not the high-gain Mesa tone, but Orange has a lot of heavier bands on their roster:

Fall Of Troy
Deftones
Boris
Slipknot
At The Drive In
Underoath
Between The Buried And Me
Torche
Converge
The Red Chord
(etc)

[guitarhead913]

ive seen the bled and emery use orange, and theyre some of my favorite bands, but they are a bit too pricy

[FrancesdaMute]

great amp for fx driven music...some of the best quality out there but still, real overpriced. I was going to buy one but went with a smaller fender.

[Iamhome]

Orange is killer. But way pricey. Get a marshall 1960B vintage cab.

[lordofthefood1]

Actually, Orange amps can be great for metal music. I mean, not the high-gain Mesa tone, but Orange has a lot of heavier bands on their roster:

Fall Of Troy
Deftones
Boris
Slipknot
At The Drive In
Underoath
Between The Buried And Me
Torche
Converge
The Red Chord
(etc)
he said metal music
haha

[tony_u]

Just wanted to throw this out there...

I had an Orange Rockerverb 2x12 combo and the stupid thing mustve broke like 10 times. I literally sent it back and forth to them in Georgia more times than I can remember. It sounded great when it worked... but it was a very very fragile amp. I'd stay away from any of their combos.. or really any tube amp combos as they are prone to problems.

[shes.a.ghost]

ive never heard one but ive seen a couple dudes play them before and they sounded excellent
if you have the cash then go for it
Think before you type next time.

[shes.a.ghost]

Just wanted to throw this out there...

I had an Orange Rockerverb 2x12 combo and the stupid thing mustve broke like 10 times. I literally sent it back and forth to them in Georgia more times than I can remember. It sounded great when it worked... but it was a very very fragile amp. I'd stay away from any of their combos.. or really any tube amp combos as they are prone to problems.
I've never hauled an Orange Combo around but I must say that I have never had problems with the combo amps I have owned. Fender Deville and Vox AC30 are two combos that I would recommend.

[patrickhowell]

he said metal music
haha

"Metal" is a very open description. There is no way I could have known the specific style to which he was referring, but some of those bands absolutely fit within the wide spectrum of "Metal." Also, I said "There are a lot of heavier bands on their roster."

[milkman_332211]

Yeah, actually there's alot of alternatives to Orange amps. I mean they're cool looking, but a Sovtek MIG-50 would also be really nice. They have awsome tone. Even though they're only one channel, but you only need one channel if you know what your doing. Or you could buy a Tubescreamer or w/e kind of overdrive you want. But Sovtek is pretty much the way to go for how cheap you can get them. You can only really get them off of Ebay, but their awsome. Oh and for a cab get something like a Mesa recifter series cab or just get something with really low watt speakers so you can push that great tone out of them. Hope I helped.


Matt

[patrickhowell]

anyone play one?
im thinking about buying the head with the double band eq with the 4x12 cab, but i havent heard what people think of them, no one i know plays them

You should go to a local Orange dealer and check out the amps in person.

It looks like the closest dealer to you is Guitar Plaza (http://guitarplaza.com) in Fort Lauderdale.

[Elijscott]

This is an obviously biased opinion, since I play the orange ad30 every day, and I think it's the greatest thing to ever happen to me with the (possible) exception of my wife. People that are saying they are pricey and that you can get an equivalent or better sound.. well I disagree.. They are pricey, but so is Marshall and Mesa.. and to me, anything post 70's Marshall sounds like crap, especially compared to the Orange. Let's not even talk about mesa.

HOWEVER.. if you want a great amp for not so much money.. The (chinese made) Vox Ac30 is amazing as well. It lacks the distinct tone of the orange, but is still so so good. That's what the other guitarist in my band plays, and every band we play with can't stop talking about our tone. Don't buy more than 30 watts, though, and be careful with the combo amps. The tubes and electronics get rattled way too hard.

One more note.. play a '72 reissue telecaster deluxe thinline if you want to achieve perfection.

[tony_u]

Let's not even talk about mesa.

Mesa is basically the standard these days when it comes to everything from pop-punk to metal. Marshall used to be the standard in the 80s and early 90s, and I agree the new ones aren't anything compared to the old ones. But just to clarify.. Orange gives you a rather British sound, in my opinion suited more toward indie rock. Not that it's a bad thing, they sound great.. but nothing like a Marshall or Mesa. Being a former Marshall and former Orange player, in my opinion, no other company offers the features (ie. many many sounds, footswitchable EVERYTHING, very durable and relable) of Mesa. And although I can see Orange or Marshall's clean tone being a bit brighter and smoother, they don't hold a candle to the chunky gain of a Mesa rectifier.

[milkman_332211]

I hate most Mesa's. I think that Lonestar is an exception. The clean is so muddy and they just don't have the greatest tone. Yeah, I'm sure if your playing just 5th's and doing obnoxious lead work then I guess it's awsome. But for the musician who uses chords beyond powerchords. they suck ass.


Matt

[brianl7]

I hate most Mesa's. I think that Lonestar is an exception. The clean is so muddy and they just don't have the greatest tone. Yeah, I'm sure if your playing just 5th's and doing obnoxious lead work then I guess it's awsome. But for the musician who uses chords beyond powerchords. they suck ass.


Matt
Someone who thinks Mesa's don't sound good obviously hasn't spent a lot of time with the amp. A Mesa is definitely not an amp that you can plug into and get a great sound without tweaking. You have to tweak, a lot. It took me a year and a half to get the tone that I wanted from my dual rec. I changed the 6l6's for el34's and only use the vintage channel for distortion. It sounds a hell of a lot better, not the normal mesa tone.

But, back on topic. The oranges are great and really aren't all that pricey. I was thinking about getting an ad30 for awhile but decided i liked the tone I was getting from my mesa. If you are going to get the orange, don't buy the cab. They're nice but pricey. You can get an avatar cab with v30's for a lot cheaper.

[guitarhead913]

You should go to a local Orange dealer and check out the amps in person.

It looks like the closest dealer to you is Guitar Plaza (http://guitarplaza.com) in Fort Lauderdale.

That helps a lot, i'm going to go there soon and check it out

[VaVJoe]

im seriously thinking about the sovtek mig mentioned before. i currently have the jcm2000, but want a change of tone and itd be nice to change amps and put some cash in my pockets. anyone else try one?

[deekbrutal]

i've wanted an orange amp for about four years now.
but no major retailers sell them, do they?
i know musician's friend doesn't, and that means that guitar center doesn't either.
i don't really want to fork over the extra cash to get the whole cab to my house, i'm sure it'll be over a grand to begin with.

[patrickhowell]

i've wanted an orange amp for about four years now.
but no major retailers sell them, do they?
i know musician's friend doesn't, and that means that guitar center doesn't either.
i don't really want to fork over the extra cash to get the whole cab to my house, i'm sure it'll be over a grand to begin with.

There are 3 Orange dealers in your area (2 in Greenville, one in Easley): http://www.orangeamps.com/dealers/dealers_usa.html

[milkman_332211]

im seriously thinking about the sovtek mig mentioned before. i currently have the jcm2000, but want a change of tone and itd be nice to change amps and put some cash in my pockets. anyone else try one?


The MIG 60 sounds exactly like a JCM 800. But the 50 sounds abunch like a Bassman. I think they're both 1 channel. So you'd probably want to get like a tubescreamer or whatever type of overdrive you want. But I'd go with the 50. You can't like order them too. You have to either buy them on Ebay or maybe Craig's List. They're made in Russia. Sovtek tubes are also phenominal. The Sovtek MIG 50 is my next buy.



Matt

[HowSoonIsNow]

Some Mesas sound good if you know how to use them. I personally don't like them because I think they give a more smooth tone whereas I'm looking for a big harsher tone that Mesa's don't provide. But arguing about what sounds better is kind of pointless because they all can sound good if you apply it in the right situation.

[deekbrutal]

ah man, thats still a bummer, one of the greenville shops is closed now, and the other is sketchy.

[Hobbs]

You guys made me want one now. I'm in need of an amp. I'll probably get a line 6 though.

[tomatl]

Me and my friend both have one, amazing amp, but you should be a fan of the sound... Not good for metal Music...

Not ture, one of my bands, Elua (www.myspace.com/soundsofeula), recorded our EP on Orange amps, and the tone was amazing.

[patrickhowell]

You guys made me want one now. I'm in need of an amp. I'll probably get a line 6 though.

I can't condone the decision to get a Line 6...

[pshh]

i would kill for a cab and head from orange. they're excellent excellent amps

[Sargent Sausage]

If you want a great sounds cheap all tube amp, then a peavey valve king 212 combo is awesome, i got mine used from a guy i know, 300 bucks ,witth footswitch ,great great deal

[patrickhowell]

If you want a great sounds cheap all tube amp, then a peavey valve king 212 combo is awesome, i got mine used from a guy i know, 300 bucks ,witth footswitch ,great great deal

I wouldn't call the ValveKing awesome, but it's a good amp for a tight budget.

[youcomebeforeyo]

My friend recentely purchased an Orange bass amp of some description (the model number escapes me) and he's just recased it into a white case.

It saddens me so.

[patrickhowell]

My friend recentely purchased an Orange bass amp of some description (the model number escapes me) and he's just recased it into a white case.

It saddens me so.

White (http://www.whiteamp.com/) > Orange

[youcomebeforeyo]

White (http://www.whiteamp.com/) > Orange

Green by Matamp > White > Orange

[untitled94]

Green by Matamp > White > Orange


guitarist from my band just bought a green legend head and a green half stack in ava cases from guitar center. pretty badass

[patrickhowell]

Green by Matamp > White > Orange

Electric is the new Matamp USA (to avoid confusion with Matamp UK, a separate company)

Apparently, Matamp UK couldn't meet the global demand (without sacrificing quality), so now Matamp is turning its focus to small combos, and Electric will be building larger, more powerful amps to Mat Mathias' original specs. Unlike Orange, both companies are building amps that live up to the original amps Mat built for Orange.

[youcomebeforeyo]

I haven't been keeping up with the news on the manufacturers front for quite some time so that's interesting to hear. Hopefully Electric doesn't sacrifice on quality just to get more out the production line..

I've had this fear for a few years now and last year it came a step closer. The way Behringer has been popping off cheap imitations of classic products.. what happens if they ever decide to make an Orange would be.

That would be a sad day

[WCC335]

I mean, they're really, really expensive. I wouldn't buy one, but they do sound fantastic. Look into Gabriel's.

[jaws5510]

I've bought an Orange Overdrive 120 head on eBay last year for $1200. It does have an AMAZING tone (clean - FLAWLESS, w/ gain - think Black Sabbath). With pedals (Digitech's "death metal", etc) you can get an authentic metal tone. Keep in mind though, an Orange sounds nothing like a Fender, Marshall, Mesa, etc. It doesn't try to sound anything like them. It has it's own personality. I would suggest playing one first before considering purchasing one. For me it was worth the money!

[jeffity]

Got this recenty.
Rockerverb 100 w/ standard 4x12 cabinet.
http://www.fourbanger.com/the_o.jpg

I didn't want to go over 50 watts, but for $2K I wasn't going to pass this up.

[patrickhowell]

Got this recenty.
Rockerverb 100 w/ standard 4x12 cabinet.
http://www.fourbanger.com/the_o.jpg

I didn't want to go over 50 watts, but for $2K I wasn't going to pass this up.

Get a power attenuator, and you're set.

[Prestonxsmith]

Orange Amps are great, but they're really overpriced (much like Gibson guitars). I wouldn't fork over that kind of cash unless you're sure that's EXACTLY what you want. In any other case, you can get the same quality (or better) for a much lower price from a different manufacturer.
Gibson guitars are not over priced. If the guitar has even a minor problem with it, it goes through a wood chipper. That is why they are pricey, because you are buying a quality instrument that took time to put together.

[patrickhowell]

Gibson guitars are not over priced. If the guitar has even a minor problem with it, it goes through a wood chipper. That is why they are pricey, because you are buying a quality instrument that took time to put together.

They're way over-priced. I've played plenty of terrible Gibsons at Guitar Center that sell for $800-$1000. To get a GOOD Gibson, you need to spend about $2000, but you can get a better Fender for $800.

[Prestonxsmith]

They're way over-priced. I've played plenty of terrible Gibsons at Guitar Center that sell for $800-$1000. To get a GOOD Gibson, you need to spend about $2000, but you can get a better Fender for $800.
The 2,000 ones are the ones I was talking about. But I primarily use Fender products. I tend to go towards Gretch when I buy

[youcomebeforeyo]

Gibson guitars are not over priced. If the guitar has even a minor problem with it, it goes through a wood chipper. That is why they are pricey, because you are buying a quality instrument that took time to put together.

Hahahahaha.

Go into a music store and play four Gibsons and tell me if you get any feeling of consistency. And then go down to a local custom shop and ask to play four of their guitars for the same price and realise how overpriced those Gibsons are in the first place.

Once upon a time they went through the woodchipper, now quality control standards have slipped majorly as the company profit has slumped,

They're still miles ahead of a lot of other guitars on the market but they are not the instruments they once were and at the same price you can find far superior with the right manufacter.

[mikeyxxcore]

The guitarist in my band just got a 4x12 cab and uses a Krank head with it.
You can get some amazing sounds with that combo, really blew me away.

[milkman_332211]

I hate Krank's.

[mikeyxxcore]

I hate Krank's.

Eh, his model only switches to clean with a footswitch, its so stupid.
Other than that it sound pretty great, maybe its the orange cab.
We're doing demos in my basement and we're getting great guitar sounds out of it.

[johnathanberard]

You guys made me want one now. I'm in need of an amp. I'll probably get a line 6 though.

STOP!

Don't buy a Line 6. Ever. EVER.

If you're looking for something (relatively) inexpensive that does amp modeling, go with one of the Vox modeling amps. Instead of just playing a shitty sampled model like Line 6, the Vox's have a 12AX7 tube in them. When you switch to a specific model, the computer inside actually reroutes the signal path to mimic the amp it's supposed to be modeling (phew!) It also has an output select knob on the back so you can push the amp but scale back on the volume. You can run it at (using the 1x12 as an example) 60W, 30W, 15W, or 1W without sacrificing gain for volume.