Golf Discussion

[Juliana101]

Discuss everything golf. (scores, experiences, equipment, Professional matches, etc.)

I think it's due time we had a thread like this, especially with summer being here.

[we are cured]

yeah, let's discuss majors and big tourneys (players, tour championship, ryder cup, fedex playoffs) in their own threads though. it seems most casual fans only care about the majors.

[we are cured]

btw if you guys can get cell phone video of your swings, we could probably help each other out a lot by looking at plane/posture issues.

[StuGrimson]

I watch every tourny but the majors are usually on tv all day and give me a chance to watch them at work, for that I am greatful.

I am playing tomorrow and I have 4 tournaments coming up in the next few months that I need practice for. My favorite is the 2 man scramble in which you get a stroke taken off for every beer you drink on the course. I am also playing in the Dan Snyder Memorial (former NHL player) this year which I am definately looking forward to.

[Juliana101]

I'm actually getting ready to go out and play right now. I'll post my score and such later.

[dhammer]

Interesting Golf Digest article about the best golfers in the music industry.

http://golf.advance.net/musicians/

Finally, a reason to respect Kenny G. :-)

[Juliana101]

The Golf Gods did not want me to play today, I guess I'll just play after work on Sunday.

[LeftWideOpen]

I havent picked up a club since I moved to the city for college ..I can't wait to pick the game up again.

and as much as I love the U.S Open, I think the British is my favorite.

[we are cured]

i like british golf...hitting 5 irons 140 into 33 mph gusts.

[Juliana101]

i like british golf...hitting 5 irons 140 into 33 mph gusts.

Uggghhh I wish I had that kind of talent.

[we are cured]

hitting stingers is pretty easy (not with 2 irons like tiger but 5-6 irons for us humans)...line it up back in your stance, don't take the club all the way back, and 'swing through the low rungs of the ladder'...like, imagine a ladder in front of you, and try to swing the club through the rung of the ladder that you want the ball to travel through.

[Juliana101]

Played today shot a 51 on the front.

Yards: 3137
Par: 36
Slope Rating: 134

It was so damn hot out that me and my dad didn't keep score on the back and then we just gave up after 13 or 14 or so.

Good round though, score wasn't too hot but I beat my dad and made some excellent shots.

[we are cured]

134 is a decent slope rating...looks like you played a tough course. not a terrible score for where you're at either - just keep trying to hit the ball solid and work on your short game, and you'll become even more obsessed with this game than you already are.

[Juliana101]

134 is a decent slope rating...looks like you played a tough course. not a terrible score for where you're at either - just keep trying to hit the ball solid and work on your short game, and you'll become even more obsessed with this game than you already are.

Right, actually the course is considered one of the most difficult around Philadelphia. It's called Whitemarsh Valley Country Club, it's known because Jack Nicklaus put his tee shot on #13 out of bounds that almost cost him the PGA tour. In a few interviews, he talks about how difficult of a course it is.

The other thing about this course is that it doesn't usually play to the yards. You can easily overshoot and undershoot each shot because of the fact that the course is in a valley.

Other course stats:
16/18 holes have out of bounds
6 holes have water

[nfggc10]

hitting stingers is pretty easy (not with 2 irons like tiger but 5-6 irons for us humans)...line it up back in your stance, don't take the club all the way back, and 'swing through the low rungs of the ladder'...like, imagine a ladder in front of you, and try to swing the club through the rung of the ladder that you want the ball to travel through.Yeah it's not too hard but you have to remember to release the club at the bottom. It's easy, when trying to hit a shot low, to get out in front of it and block it which Tiger actually did on a couple 2 irons this weekend.

[avengedtbs]

ill be playing this saturday the day before graduation with my step-dad, grandpa, and uncle...i havent played in a month since the county championships for high school

[we are cured]

Yeah it's not too hard but you have to remember to release the club at the bottom. It's easy, when trying to hit a shot low, to get out in front of it and block it which Tiger actually did on a couple 2 irons this weekend.

oh w/o a doubt. as long as your rhythm is decent, though, the ladder-rung image should be enough to get the clubface square at impact.

[nfggc10]

oh w/o a doubt. as long as your rhythm is decent, though, the ladder-rung image should be enough to get the clubface square at impact.It's such a cool shot to play though. I remember the first time I saw Tiger hit one I went out on the range the next day and tried it out. It's tough to hit it at first but once you practice it and get some confidence with it you can really take advantage of it on tight par 4s where you need to put it in the fairway.

[pshh]

Interesting Golf Digest article about the best golfers in the music industry.

http://golf.advance.net/musicians/

Finally, a reason to respect Kenny G. :-)

lol will pugh #23

[we are cured]

It's such a cool shot to play though. I remember the first time I saw Tiger hit one I went out on the range the next day and tried it out. It's tough to hit it at first but once you practice it and get some confidence with it you can really take advantage of it on tight par 4s where you need to put it in the fairway.

the course i play at, you really only hit driver 3x a round (and it's 7000 yards, pretty ridiculous). i hit a lot of 3 irons off the tee, but for the most part i use the shot when i get stuck in the woods and have a bunch of overhang to deal with.

[Juliana101]

the course i play at, you really only hit driver 3x a round (and it's 7000 yards, pretty ridiculous). i hit a lot of 3 irons off the tee, but for the most part i use the shot when i get stuck in the woods and have a bunch of overhang to deal with.

3 Iron? I thought nobody used them anymore because everybody's picking up the hybrids.

[we are cured]

yeah hybrids are alright, but i like my 3 iron. they had to pry my 2 iron from me to put a 5w in the bag, and even then i was pissed off.

there's less room for error with ball-striking, but you can work the ball a little easier with a long iron.

[nfggc10]

yeah hybrids are alright, but i like my 3 iron. they had to pry my 2 iron from me to put a 5w in the bag, and even then i was pissed off.

there's less room for error with ball-striking, but you can work the ball a little easier with a long iron.Yeah that was my reasoning for not putting in a hybrid, in addition to my hatred for how they look. Hybrids and fairway woods are necessary for hackers and for players who play courses which have alot of forced carries into greens where you need a higher trajectory and don't have the club head speed to get long irons into the air. For better players though 3 irons are still fine and reliable for the most part.

[we are cured]

i think i might pull the 5w out of my bag and stick a 4w/2i variation in there, though, for when i need to hit that awkward 225-230 out of weird rough lies.

[dhammer]

i think i might pull the 5w out of my bag and stick a 4w/2i variation in there, though, for when i need to hit that awkward 225-230 out of weird rough lies.

You'll never look back. For the longest time I resisted taking my 2 iron out of the bag, but have since ditched both the 2 and the 3 for a 22 degree hybrid (3 iron) and a gap wedge. I have found the hybrid to be superior for both distance out of the rough, and getting the ball to land softly.

[Juliana101]

You'll never look back. For the longest time I resisted taking my 2 iron out of the bag, but have since ditched both the 2 and the 3 for a 22 degree hybrid (3 iron) and a gap wedge. I have found the hybrid to be superior for both distance out of the rough, and getting the ball to land softly.

The hybrid is definitely the way to go, swings like an iron, hits like a wood. The problem is no matter how many times I hit the ball well with it, I've never been able to trust it.

[we are cured]

what's everyone's wedge combos?

i play a standard pw (48°), a sand/gap (titleist vokey raw, 54°/10° bounce) and a lob (cleveland 588 gunmetal 60°/0°).

i had a 58° for awhile, but i found that the vokey raw model actually had like 12° of bounce and was nearly impossible to hit out of anything but tight fairway lies. so i ditched it and went for the 60°, in favor of a club that could get me out of tougher lies around the green.

[we are cured]

oh, and my bag looks like this:

d1: titleist 975d 8.5°, grafalloy s shaft (going to need a new one soon)
3w: mizuno ta3 15°, grafalloy s fairway shaft (my bread and butter)
5w: big bertha steelhead 2, steel s sensicore shaft (fuck this thing)
3i thru pw: titleist 962b, steel s sensicore shafts (love these babies)
wedges: (see above)
putter: scotty cameron pro platinum, newport mid slant, circa 2000

[StuGrimson]

I dont even know the lofts but I use an Armour pitching wedge and a Mizuno sand wedge. Ive had the Armour forever and love it, I just got the Mizuno a few weeks back. I dont use lob wedges or anything more lofted then a standard sand wedge. My chipping has always been the best part of my game and I generally dont get myself in to many situations where I need a huge loft.

[StuGrimson]

I use a Big Bertha driver along with a Cobra driver as well sometimes
3w - Taylor Made
5w - I love this club but it is old and small but is so light and perfect it goes so far, its an Arnold Palmer brand club at least 10 years old
3-9 - Wilson Staff Nc6 Graphite
Putter - Mizuno, good 5-6 years old too but I love it

[we are cured]

i have the perfect backyard for developing a short game. there's a plethora of shots that involve my above-ground pool, a 50 year old tree, and a bird feeder that help me hone my short game.

generally my strength is my lob wedge, and my sand game.

[StuGrimson]

I hate practicing anything but putting, my putting is brutal but if I had a good yard, which my parents do but I dont feel like going there to chip, I would likely practice more. I dont like going to the course or the range and practicing though. I probably should with some big tournaments coming up. Sounds like you can work on just about any possible situation in that yard though.

My fucking boss took the afternoon off to head up to Collingwood (a couple hours north) today to watch the Telus Skills game with Colin Montgomerie, Stephen Ames, John Daly, Geoff Ogilvy and Retief Goosen. Im wishing I went.

[we are cured]

im not a big fan of the range either, just for warmups. i feel like the whole aiming thing going on at the range is so different from the actual golf course.

[Juliana101]

Putting for me is my best skill. Chipping is also good for me. If I could just figure out how to control my intense slice on my tee shot, I'd be able to get on the green in two for just about every type of par 4 out there.

My clubs are shit, I bought them so I could take them to school and not be upset if I got them stolen. I have my pitching wedge, that's it.

My dad said he's going to look at getting me new clubs when the summer ends because I'm going to play golf for school.

It's hard for me to find clubs because I shoot left-handed.

[Juliana101]

im not a big fan of the range either, just for warmups. i feel like the whole aiming thing going on at the range is so different from the actual golf course.

Since I play for free because I work at a golf course, I go out real late in the day (like around 7:30 or 8) and I practice on the hole itself. I'll shoot till I'm about 50 yards away from the hole, then I'd take the ball and throw it in the sand and practice my sand shots for about 20 minutes. Then I practice putting and do it all over again.

[StuGrimson]

My slice used to kill me but that was what I worked on at the range, I was moving my feet way too much and my balance was off causing me to slice. Im a lefty too, but its a hell of a lot easier to find lefty clubs in Canada.

[we are cured]

Since I play for free because I work at a golf course, I go out real late in the day (like around 7:30 or 8) and I practice on the hole itself. I'll shoot till I'm about 50 yards away from the hole, then I'd take the ball and throw it in the sand and practice my sand shots for about 20 minutes. Then I practice putting and do it all over again.

keep doing this...and put 2 balls at 100 yards, 85 yards, 60 yards, and 40 yards. this will make you lethal.

[Juliana101]

My slice used to kill me but that was what I worked on at the range, I was moving my feet way too much and my balance was off causing me to slice. Im a lefty too, but its a hell of a lot easier to find lefty clubs in Canada.

The problem with me is that I'm still right handed, so I'm still using my right hand to power the club and such. It's bizarre and the only person who can really help me is me. I can hit a straight 150-200 yard drive with my 5 wood, but I'm working on controlling my driver so I've been teeing off exclusively with that.

[Juliana101]

keep doing this...and put 2 balls at 100 yards, 85 yards, 60 yards, and 40 yards. this will make you lethal.

Yeah, chipping from about 100-in is one of my strongest points but I practice it all the time. Sand is what kills me so I've been practicing that hardcore these past few weeks.
As for putting, it's not unusual for me to hit a 15-20 foot putt in 1, but it's something that can leave you in a second so I'm always practicing that too.

[we are cured]

the best putts to practice are the 8-10 footers. put two tees in the ground slightly wider than your putter head and stroke your putts between the tees.

[StuGrimson]

My sand play is way different then what most every teacher and pro says to do. I dont like taking the full swing, I have a semi chipping motion and it actually allows me to put more spin on the ball. I feel I am too prone to skulling the ball if I take too big of a swing. Sand play has really become a great part of my game.

[we are cured]

i blast that shit out...when i open the face up pretty wide i get a shitload of spin too. plus its easier to control.

[we are cured]

skulling the ball usually means that you're swing plane is too shallow in the sand. try a few shots where you stay committed to the shot, and pound the shit out of the ground 1-1.5 inches behind the ball. the result is orgasmic.

[Juliana101]

the best putts to practice are the 8-10 footers. put two tees in the ground slightly wider than your putter head and stroke your putts between the tees.

That's a good idea, I think I'll give that a shot next time I go out and practice which will probably be tommorow night.

[StuGrimson]

skulling the ball usually means that you're swing plane is too shallow in the sand. try a few shots where you stay committed to the shot, and pound the shit out of the ground 1-1.5 inches behind the ball. the result is orgasmic.

I think my problem which causes skulling is that sometimes I move around too much during my swing causing the club to kind of switch its facing in the air and taking a very straight angle at the ball and causing either a skull or just a roller of a shot. I definately need to work on my body control and stature, I look like Angel Cabrera the way he couldnt stop moving for the last few holes on Sunday.

[we are cured]

yeah, gotta keep the legs quiet for sure.

[dhammer]

I use a Big Bertha driver along with a Cobra driver as well sometimes
3w - Taylor Made
5w - I love this club but it is old and small but is so light and perfect it goes so far, its an Arnold Palmer brand club at least 10 years old
3-9 - Wilson Staff Nc6 Graphite
Putter - Mizuno, good 5-6 years old too but I love it

Driver: Titleist 905T 9.5 YS6+ Graphite (Stiff)
3 Wood: Titleist 975PT 14.5 degrees S300 Dynamic Gold steel shaft
Hybrid: Cleveland HALO 22 degree hybrid (stiff steel shaft)
Irons: 4-PW Titleist 990 S300 Dynamic Gold +.5"
Wedges: 52, 56, and 60 degree Cleveland 588 RTG
Putter: Ping Sedona

[bigmike]

I watched Playing Lessons with the Pros today and they had Chi Chi Rodriguez on his course in Puerto Rico. Dude cracked me up. he said he used to put his hat over the hole after making some lengthy puts but some "lesser guys" on the tour complained he was ruining the hole and the PGA Commish called him to NY and said that he wasn't making him stop, but that he probably should, so he came up with the Sword and he is a bullfighter and the cup is the bull. And after birdies/eagles he 'cleaned' his 'sword' free of the blood, haha.

He used to put his hat over the cup because he said he was playing a kid back in his hometown for a nickle a hole and he made this long birdie putt and a toad was in the cup and jumped out and his ball did too and the kid said it never touched the bottom of the cup so it doesn't count.

[we are cured]

chi chi, haha.

i'm going out today after work. if this fuckface of a boss doesn't show up in the next two hours i'm leaving early.

[Juliana101]

I watched Playing Lessons with the Pros today and they had Chi Chi Rodriguez on his course in Puerto Rico. Dude cracked me up. he said he used to put his hat over the hole after making some lengthy puts but some "lesser guys" on the tour complained he was ruining the hole and the PGA Commish called him to NY and said that he wasn't making him stop, but that he probably should, so he came up with the Sword and he is a bullfighter and the cup is the bull. And after birdies/eagles he 'cleaned' his 'sword' free of the blood, haha.

He used to put his hat over the cup because he said he was playing a kid back in his hometown for a nickle a hole and he made this long birdie putt and a toad was in the cup and jumped out and his ball did too and the kid said it never touched the bottom of the cup so it doesn't count.

Hahahah Chi Chi... He almost beat Jack Nicklaus at the course I played at on Sunday. It's a shame people gave him such a hard time back then when he was playing.

[Juliana101]

Playing today... will post scores later.

[peacefulxRIOT]

Michele Wie people! haha heard she won yesterday

[Juliana101]

Met up with my estranged uncle that I hadn't seen for a few years, then I saw a terrible car accident and called 911, forgot to keep score somewhere in there.

[70x7]

Driver: Titleist 905T 9.5 YS6+ Graphite (Stiff)
3 Wood: Titleist 975PT 14.5 degrees S300 Dynamic Gold steel shaft
Hybrid: Cleveland HALO 22 degree hybrid (stiff steel shaft)
Irons: 4-PW Titleist 990 S300 Dynamic Gold +.5"
Wedges: 52, 56, and 60 degree Cleveland 588 RTG
Putter: Ping Sedona

Cleveland HiBore 8.5 Fujikura Speeder X-Flex
Callaway Big Bertha 15 DG x100
Taylor Made Rescue Mid TP Fujikura X-Flex
Taylor Made rac LT (2003) DG x100
Taylor Made rac wedges
Yes! Natalie

I'm about to get mostly new everything. The driver and putter or the only ones I didn't get from my college

[drmsofpsilocybi]

Driver: 9.5 Callaway Hawkeye w/ adila nvs stiff shaft
3w: Titleist 905 F
Hybrid: 19 degree Cobra Baffler
Irons: 3-PW: Taylor Made Burners
Wedges: SW: 56 degree Cleveland Gunmetal
Putter: Odyssey DFX No 2
Bag: Ping Huffer
Balls: always Titleist NXT Tour #3's

Fav Courses Ive Played (in my state)
1) Glenmoor Canton, OH (home course)
2) Firestone North Akron, OH
3) Red Hawk Run Findlay, OH
4) Stone Ridge Bowling Green, OH (home college course)
5) Roses Run Cuyahoga Falls, OH/ Shaker Run Lisbon, OH

Other Favs out of State:
1) Harbor Town (played when I was about 16)
2) Kiawah Island Ocean Course (Playing it in 30 days from today)
3) Orange Country Club (FLA) (played at 17)
4) Mountain View (WVA) (played this past year)
5) Doral (FLA) (played when I was only 15)

Est HDCP: 7

Played in US Amateur Publinx, Optimist Qualifiers, Westfield JPGA Open Qualifiers and a few AJGA events (a little old for them now though).

[Scott Weber]

played a par 3 pitch and putt last week and lipped out a putt for 29. (par 27) - i was so pissed.

[drmsofpsilocybi]

If anyone is anywhere near the NW Ohio area, or if your just a sucker for tight golf courses (like me) check out these.

1) Stone Ridge CC - Arthur Hills Design (my fav and home course in college) http://www.stoneridgegolfclub.org

2) Red Hawk Run - Also Arthur Hills Design (just played today, played in a tournament there almost three years ago)
www.redhawkrun.com

3) Inverness CC - Old course, home to past PGA championships and US Opens
http://www.invernessclub.com/

4) Legacy by Arthur Hills - (if you cant tell I love Arthur Hills Courses) If you play there before 9am, there is rolling fog on the course, and not to mention a floating green

http://www.legacybyarthurhills.com/

5) My CC - Glenmoor CC, Canton, OH. Jack Nicklaus Signature course, home to an 1800's castle.

glenmoorcc.com

[70x7]

If anyone is anywhere near the NW Ohio area, or if your just a sucker for tight golf courses (like me) check out these.

1) Stone Ridge CC - Arthur Hills Design (my fav and home course in college) http://www.stoneridgegolfclub.org

2) Red Hawk Run - Also Arthur Hills Design (just played today, played in a tournament there almost three years ago)
www.redhawkrun.com

3) Inverness CC - Old course, home to past PGA championships and US Opens
http://www.invernessclub.com/

4) Legacy by Arthur Hills - (if you cant tell I love Arthur Hills Courses) If you play there before 9am, there is rolling fog on the course, and not to mention a floating green

http://www.legacybyarthurhills.com/

5) My CC - Glenmoor CC, Canton, OH. Jack Nicklaus Signature course, home to an 1800's castle.

glenmoorcc.com


how could you have played in the publinx if you have access to a country club?

[drmsofpsilocybi]

my established handicap didnt include any rounds at glenmoor. I just recently was given a membership there by my step dad, within the last month or so. So since i hadn't played any rounds on a private course and certainly didnt have any posted scores there, i kinda slid in under the radar.

But seriously, half the publinx field is comprised of people who have CC access but hide it in almost the same fashion.

[70x7]

my established handicap didnt include any rounds at glenmoor. I just recently was given a membership there by my step dad, within the last month or so. So since i hadn't played any rounds on a private course and certainly didnt have any posted scores there, i kinda slid in under the radar.

But seriously, half the publinx field is comprised of people who have CC access but hide it in almost the same fashion.

Gotcha. This was the first year I was eligible for it, and only by about a month. Alas, 75-70 didn't quite sniff at my qualifier. Where did you qualify?

[drmsofpsilocybi]

we had ours at stone ridge cc. its a semi private course almost right behind my house. 80-84 (including a 4 putt on 18, numerous three putts... just a nightmare of a round)

Actually my best friend and one of my roommates played in the same qualifier with me and both are members to clubs around the columbus area, how they got around that ruling, i dont know... i know they both post scores almost weekly at their courses.

[Juliana101]

I played with my dad today for 9 holes before my calculus class and I fixed my swing with my irons. It was a good round.

I love the feeling of when you fix something you've been struggling with for weeks.

[we are cured]

i played 9 holes today and shot a 43. couldn't really get anything going, and started double-bogey-par-double. bleh

[drmsofpsilocybi]

as much as I hate to admit it... but a Medicus fixed my swing. It was that simple that a gimick club off the golf channel fixed my swing. Anyway, shot 40-40 on a pretty tough course. Looks like the game is finally starting to turn around (figures now that I only have 1 tourny left this season). If I could just get the DfX rolling true then I would be money right now.

Anyone putted with a rife island putter before? I did the other day and it about blew my mind. if you ever have the chance check one out.

[Chancetobe]

Golfers suck.

/comment from a golf course cashier.

[Juliana101]

as much as I hate to admit it... but a Medicus fixed my swing. It was that simple that a gimick club off the golf channel fixed my swing. Anyway, shot 40-40 on a pretty tough course. Looks like the game is finally starting to turn around (figures now that I only have 1 tourny left this season). If I could just get the DfX rolling true then I would be money right now.

Anyone putted with a rife island putter before? I did the other day and it about blew my mind. if you ever have the chance check one out.

The Medicus club fixed my dad's swing, if only he had the left handed one...

[we are cured]

its a good tool...rhythm is the most underappreciated and important factor in the golf swing

[Juliana101]

I completely fixed my swing today with my driver. I read an article in a golf magazine we get in work and I read that a good way to fix your slice is by taking two tees and putting them in the creases of your thumbs. I did this, then I teed the ball a little bit lower and then put it even more towards my right foot and I did not put a ball shorter than 225 yards straight down the fairway.

Give it a shot, it's worth it.

[drmsofpsilocybi]

well why wouldnt you just order a couple of extra wraps on the grip? wouldnt that do the same thing. What thats basically telling you (and most people who slice the ball) is that your grip is too tight, and when you have a tight grip you tend to swing more with the upper half to try and power the ball. Looser grip = looser swing = less use of upper body = more use of lower body = better shots.

After lessons at firestone, I can diagnose and troubleshoot my golf swing... unfortunately, I know what I do wrong on every busted shot which pisses me off even more.

[Juliana101]

well why wouldnt you just order a couple of extra wraps on the grip? wouldnt that do the same thing. What thats basically telling you (and most people who slice the ball) is that your grip is too tight, and when you have a tight grip you tend to swing more with the upper half to try and power the ball. Looser grip = looser swing = less use of upper body = more use of lower body = better shots.

After lessons at firestone, I can diagnose and troubleshoot my golf swing... unfortunately, I know what I do wrong on every busted shot which pisses me off even more.

Right, I knew that, but it was an easier way for me to actually identify what I was doing wrong and more importantly, correcting it.

[drmsofpsilocybi]

golf digest always has tips that seem to help my game. They have helped me to develop shots to play out of almost any lie. My favorite of which is the wrap around shot.

I played this at our university course the other day and it mystified me that it actually worked. My ball was butted up real close to a tree to the left leaving little room for a follow through. The hole was a severe dog leg to the left and from my position would require a R/L cut shot to bend around the point of the trees. I saddled up to the ball, putting it in the middle of my back foot (basically leaning on the tree) and blasted down on the back 1/3 of the ball with a 22 degree Cobra Baffler. THe ball took off low, avoiding any tree branches and as soon as it was clear of the last tree... cut perfectly R/L. I hit the shot so well infact that it ended up almost 20 yards past the hole but I was satisfied with the performance non the less.

Going home to play three great courses next week. Weds @ Acacia, Thu @ Brookledge and Fri at either The Quarry or Glenmoor.

[SurfWaxKyle]

I have a question for some of you other more intelligent golfers...

So I'm looking to get some new clubs (iron set) and I'm not really looking to spend alot of money. I golf probably like 3-4 times a month, not super good, but I still like going out and playing a round with a friend or my dad or something. I was reading somewhere online about this place www.pinemeadowgolf.com (http://www.pinemeadowgolf.com) that makes clubs that are designed similar to big name brands at a fraction of the price. It seems legit to me and what I've read seems pretty good. I'm wondering what any of your thoughts are on them. Any suggestions you guys got for me are great. Thanks in advance.

[we are cured]

in anything golf, hit clubs before you buy them (you'll thank me for this). if you like them and they feel legit, then go for it.

[SurfWaxKyle]

Thanks. Next question then... does anyone know if these are available in store or only just online? I know with the online there is a 30 day money back guarantee but it would be nicer to just try them at a store.

[70x7]

Component clubs are rarely a good idea. Sure, they may look just like the real thing, but they lack a lot of the things you can't see that actualy make a good golf club. Golf clubs may not be the best investment, but if you play 3-4 times a month, it's worth investing in a decent set of clubs. You can always get an older model or one of the less fancy versions of a club. In terms of fitting, there is no substitution for being fit in person.

[Juliana101]

I'm looking at some Ping Blades for when I get my new club. My work gave me a 6 fitting iron and it hits great.

[70x7]

I'm looking at some Ping Blades for when I get my new club. My work gave me a 6 fitting iron and it hits great.

I'm kinda going in the opposite direction of you. I played blades throughout most of my college career and went to a player's cavity back and am about to get a similar set. Blades look awesome, but I get nothing out of them. If I'm not hitting it perfect, all they are going to do is hurt me. And no matter how well I'm swinging, I'm not going to hit them better or be able to work the ball better than with a forged or soft cavity back. The only other kid on my college team who played blades was our worst player, and most of the guys we played against used cavity backs. My best friend who played at UNC played Callaway for his whole college career and even now as a pro he isn't using a pure blade. On a side note, he is probably one of the very few professional athletes who reads this site reguarly. All that being said, the Ping's aren't a pure blade, but are for sure sweet feeling clubs. I have heard though that Ping is going to come out with a new Eye 2 this fall though, that will be more of a player's club, with a thinner topline, reduced offset, etc...

[dhammer]

I have a question for some of you other more intelligent golfers...

So I'm looking to get some new clubs (iron set) and I'm not really looking to spend alot of money. I golf probably like 3-4 times a month, not super good, but I still like going out and playing a round with a friend or my dad or something. I was reading somewhere online about this place www.pinemeadowgolf.com (http://www.pinemeadowgolf.com) that makes clubs that are designed similar to big name brands at a fraction of the price. It seems legit to me and what I've read seems pretty good. I'm wondering what any of your thoughts are on them. Any suggestions you guys got for me are great. Thanks in advance.

Ebay is the greatest thing for golfers. People get rid of clubs all the time thinking that buying new clubs will cure their slice, eliminate shanks, etc. A couple hundred dollars will buy you some really good used irons. Much better than no-name knockoffs, imo.

[CubbyNick42]

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/6960734_51_1.jpg

Tiger, your thumb doesn't look like a thumb...

[Juliana101]

Found out that I can get new clubs from my work at what we buy them at, not what we appraise them at. I watched him discount them for a guy whose tight with our boss, and it took $1,000 off a Ping set. :-)

[pshh]

i got a sweet free mizuno set from my dad, it's really nice, i saved a lot of money from that too and my dad got a nice callaway set i will most likely get when he's done with that

[SurfWaxKyle]

True story...

I live in Milwaukee and the US Bank Championship is at Brown Deer Park this weekend (I know, all the good players are going to the British Open, but it's rare we get a big name player to come here.. I think Tiger came once when he was an amateur) but I was on my way to work today, passing the course when I got rear ended. It was Jeff Maggert, PGA Tour golfer. Luckily no damage and both of us were fine, but I thought it was a pretty cool.

[we are cured]

well in light of the pga's conclusion, i've been obsessed with swing vision. here are some of my favorites.

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[SurfWaxKyle]

That camera is probably the coolest shit ever.

When the club face hits the ball it's ridiculous how much the ball compresses. Absolutely awesome, no other words describe that.

[we are cured]

i really like snedeker's swing for teaching purposes. i think he could load up more on his right side, but through impact he looks great.

[Juliana101]

Alright, I got the OK from my father to start looking at new golf clubs. I don't know what I should look for. I shoot mid 90s (usually) and I'm pretty inexperienced having only played steadily for really a year. What do you think I should look at?

[SurfWaxKyle]

I just picked up some Tour Edge clubs. They're feel real nice and they are pretty straight and long for me, and I usually shoot about mid to low 90's. They were only like 400 too so that was nice... and I got a free bag that was 100 bucks, pretty good deal.

[70x7]

Alright, I got the OK from my father to start looking at new golf clubs. I don't know what I should look for. I shoot mid 90s (usually) and I'm pretty inexperienced having only played steadily for really a year. What do you think I should look at?

Any of the larger headed, forgiving irons. Callaway Big Bertha, Cobra F9, TaylorMade r7, Ping G10 (you can get the G5 cheap in a month though). Probably nothing lower than a 5 iron either.

[Juliana101]

Getting set to get fitted for new clubs. I'm getting pretty excited. I've been rec'd Cobras and Callaways, and I've played the new Nike's that Tiger is using, which were nice but not that great.

[we are cured]

the nikes tiger uses will be too hard to hit. do yourself a favor and look at some of the mid-handicap mizuno models. imo mizuno makes the best irons on the market.

[StuGrimson]

Agreed on Mizuno for sure, used to have a set that I loved. I like Cobra for 3 and 5 woods but never got into any of the drivers or irons.

[we are cured]

i used to have a cobra baffler. that thing was great, but the offset was enormous.

[nfggc10]

the nikes tiger uses will be too hard to hit. do yourself a favor and look at some of the mid-handicap mizuno models. imo mizuno makes the best irons on the market.Yeah I've played Mizuno Mp-33s for a long time now. Mizuno used to be the most used iron on Tour but as more players started getting incentives to play other clubs they went another direction. Tiger played Mizuno for a while as well but eventually moved on to Titleist a little while after he turned pro. I definitely wouldn't recommend buying blades at this point though. Nothing feels more solid in the center but off center hits aren't consistent enough.

[nfggc10]

Agreed on Mizuno for sure, used to have a set that I loved. I like Cobra for 3 and 5 woods but never got into any of the drivers or irons.Cobra's fairway woods have usually been pretty solid. Their drivers though have always been hideous to me and that includes the ones that aren't offset.

[70x7]

Cobra's fairway woods have usually been pretty solid. Their drivers though have always been hideous to me and that includes the ones that aren't offset.
the baffler pro is also one of the better hybrids out there. the carbon cb is actually a really solid iron also, but it's something i'm not sure i would want to play. same with the new ping i10. they look really nice, but i've never been a huge ping fan. similarly, the new ping driver looks just as bad ass, i just hope that it doesn't put as much spin on the ball as a lot of ping's previous drivers have.

[nfggc10]

the baffler pro is also one of the better hybrids out there. the carbon cb is actually a really solid iron also, but it's something i'm not sure i would want to play. same with the new ping i10. they look really nice, but i've never been a huge ping fan. similarly, the new ping driver looks just as bad ass, i just hope that it doesn't put as much spin on the ball as a lot of ping's previous drivers have.Yeah I've never been a big Ping fan either. Most of their clubs have felt really solid but they never looked good enough for me.

[spencersmithrox]

i got my best score ever today! yay for me! 46!!!!!!!! ahhhhhh it was amazing even tho i could do better......

[70x7]

Yeah I've never been a big Ping fan either. Most of their clubs have felt really solid but they never looked good enough for me.

The new irons look more rounded than previous ones. I have always had issues with the quality of their drivers also. When I played the Tisi, I caved in the face on two of them. Right now I'm in love with the X-Forged irons though.

[nfggc10]

The new irons look more rounded than previous ones. I have always had issues with the quality of their drivers also. When I played the Tisi, I caved in the face on two of them. Right now I'm in love with the X-Forged irons though.Even on Tour I've heard Ping drivers are one of the easiest to cave in.

[70x7]

Even on Tour I've heard Ping drivers are one of the easiest to cave in.

I know lots of guys who caved in Tisi's but haven't heard of anybody caving in G2's or G5's and the G10 is just calling to me. So, if it doesn't spin much and has a face that won't crumple, it might contend for a spot in my bag. I'm not too optomistic thiugh, as the Rapture went way to high for me also, just like the Tisi did, and I demoed the Rapture with just about every shaft in it.

[nfggc10]

I know lots of guys who caved in Tisi's but haven't heard of anybody caving in G2's or G5's and the G10 is just calling to me. So, if it doesn't spin much and has a face that won't crumple, it might contend for a spot in my bag. I'm not too optomistic thiugh, as the Rapture went way to high for me also, just like the Tisi did, and I demoed the Rapture with just about every shaft in it.Yeah I struggle with trajectory on my drivers as well. I'd love some company to put more weight higher up on the face rather than just catering to hackers and putting it all on the bottom. That high point on the face above the sweet spot is actually the best contact point since it reduces spin. That's where it would be nice to get in a Tour trailer and get the treatment they do.

[70x7]

Yeah I struggle with trajectory on my drivers as well. I'd love some company to put more weight higher up on the face rather than just catering to hackers and putting it all on the bottom. That high point on the face above the sweet spot is actually the best contact point since it reduces spin. That's where it would be nice to get in a Tour trailer and get the treatment they do.
A lot of guys I grew up and played in college with now play on various tours (PGA, NAtionwide, Hooters,etc) and I've gotten some stuff from them. I had a tour issue r7 425TP for a few months last year, and while it was long, still put too much spin on the ball. Last fall I got a tour issue HiBore with a Speeder shfat in it, and that's really helped keep the ball down and much straighter. On the launch monitor my numbers are way better with it. It's not as long on a big swing as the r7, but with a stock wing, it's very comprable.
The only other drivers I've liked since it are the Callaway FT-5 and the Titleist 907D2.

[nfggc10]

A lot of guys I grew up and played in college with now play on various tours (PGA, NAtionwide, Hooters,etc) and I've gotten some stuff from them. I had a tour issue r7 425TP for a few months last year, and while it was long, still put too much spin on the ball. Last fall I got a tour issue HiBore with a Speeder shfat in it, and that's really helped keep the ball down and much straighter. On the launch monitor my numbers are way better with it. It's not as long on a big swing as the r7, but with a stock wing, it's very comprable.
The only other drivers I've liked since it are the Callaway FT-5 and the Titleist 907D2.That's pretty cool. Chris Kirk, who was college player of the year this season, was on my team in high school. I like that Callaway FT as well even though I wasn't crazy about how it looked.

Since we were speaking about 3 woods the other day, I was thinking earlier about how much I miss the old Titleist PT. To this day I've never hit a club that felt as good as that one. But unfortunately anything off center had no carry on it so it had to go.

[StuGrimson]

Not related to golf clubs but Im loving the Fed Ex Cup so far, this will be an amazing 4 weeks

[nfggc10]

Not related to golf clubs but Im loving the Fed Ex Cup so far, this will be an amazing 4 weeksThat love for it have anything to do with Tiger not playing this week? haha


I like it as well though and the points system is that hard to figure out since the Golf Channel has the projected total on the leader board. Next week should be great even though the course isn't the greatest. I always go to the Tour Championship so this year should be even better since Tiger hasn't played the last couple of years. I'm glad they finally have something to end the season on though. The season has pretty much come to a crashing halt after Firestone so it's good to see everyone playing this time of the year. I would like to see them reduce it from 4 to 3 playoffs events since most players don't like having to play 6 out of 7 weeks and then some have to play the following week in the President's Cup or Ryder Cup. I guess that all comes with the territory though of seeing how it goes one the first go around.

[StuGrimson]

Playing golf 4 days out of 7 for 4 straight weeks isnt that bad of a job, so if you really feel the need to take a week off you are just a big pussy.

That being said its tought to say right now where the advantage lies, I think in order to win the cup you will need to have at least 1 win and Tiger has that ability to win every week which most guys dont have. It will be interesting to see how he performs at these next 3 events. I think it will come down to who wins the Tour Championship wins the title. Im rooting for Adam Scott who is lucky to be where he is based on his second half of the season performance. I think a top 5 finsh for Ernie Els this week may boost him up enough to win the title as well.

I go to the Canadian Open every year and thats cool you go to the Tour championship. Ive always wanted to go to one of the huge events like that, the Canadian Open gets some good players but I dont think it always gets the respect it deserves as a should be marquee event.

[LeftWideOpen]

The PGA Tour announced that starting in 2008 it will test players as part of an anti-doping policy.

The PGA Commissioner announced the policy will list banned substances and the methods to carry out the testing. The drugs that will be banned include anabolic agents, hormones, stimulants, narcotics, beta blockers and masking agents. Details of the penalties weren't given, but it was mentioned that the penalties for violation of the anti-doping policy will be recognized by other world golfing tours. Sep. 20

Source: USA Today

[preppyak]

bump for the Masters

[StuGrimson]

Im watching the par 3 contest now and it just dreadful TV

[we are cured]

bump for the Masters

good call i'm actually going to make a masters thread, like we do for all the majors

[preppyak]

I love watching The Masters, perfect follow up to March madness. I am excited to see what ESPN does with the coverage...they have the equipment to make this good, but will they focus too much on Tiger,etc

[preppyak]

Im watching the par 3 contest now and it just dreadful TV
haha, yeah....the intrigue is not there, because everyone is trying not to win

[airik625]

I can't wait until tomorrow. Hopefully Tiger plays well tomorrow.

[soundofthebrown]

Tiger out at least 4 weeks after knee surgery. He'll probably miss the Players Championship

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=3348702

[we are cured]

i'm going to sybase classic next week for anna rawson:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/534/golfannarawsonsb0.jpg

[Killadelphia]

So, I think I could watch the 17th hole attempts all day. What the hell was Woody Austin doing?

[Shooter McGavin]

Did anybody see Franklin Langham make that 13 to start the day? Maybe just a little nervous.

[nfggc10]

Did anybody see Franklin Langham make that 13 to start the day? Maybe just a little nervous.Ha yeah I saw he was +12 thru 7 and then looked at his scorecard to see how he did it.

I'm going on Saturday so I'm hoping Toms, Howell, and Cink stay near the lead. Chris Kirk, who played at UGA and was the top ranked collegiate player at one point, is playing and I haven't seen him in a couple years. We played on the team in high school together so it's kinda cool to see him playing on the tour now.

[LeftWideOpen]

so i went golfing today for the first time in about 7 years and shot a 54 haha. I started out with a 9 and 8 because I was trying to figure out my swing and how far I could hit each club. by the 5th hole I was just using my 5 wood off the tee because I could hit it about 215-225 and keep it straight, while my driver was all over the place.

I was long on all my irons, too. About 3 times, I was around the 150 yard marker and overshot the green w/ my 9. It's going to take a few rounds to figure out my game again.

it was so much fun to be back out on the course, though.

[SurfWaxKyle]

Anyone else excited about the weather getting nicer and being able to golf soon?

[himynameisalan]

woods is back!!!

[himynameisalan]

once again, TIGER!

[bigmike]

Really? i didn't know this. Thanks for the heads up!

[Smithers]

i know i'm way late, but the Match Play Championship is my favorite non-major tournament. while it's much slower, it's more interesting to me.

[preppyak]

Tiger 1 back at the Arnold Palmer Invitational...it'd be nice to see him win in the tourney right before the Masters

[Chemical Love]

I hope Tiger can finish this comeback.

[preppyak]

and its all tied up at -5

I would not want to be Sean O'Hair having to beat Tiger over the last few holes

[about3fitty]

that has be to one of the most intimidating things in sports

[preppyak]

and Sean O'Hair chokes under the pressure...seen that before

edit: haha, they showed the TPC footage where he choked at 17...brutal

[preppyak]

and Tiger puts it within 4 feet for the easy par

So he's gonna go into 17 up 1 on O'Hair

[StuGrimson]

I dont know if I hate Tiger or Johnny Miller more.

[preppyak]

Tiger being Tiger...drains it

[Chemical Love]

What a way to get his first win after coming back. Fucking awesome.

[Smithers]

i was flipping back and forth during the UNC game. what a great ending. Jaime hates golf and even she enjoyed it.

his shot on 16 after O'Hair put his in the drink was what won him the tournament IMO.

[Smithers]

bump for the Masters. kind of weird that they're holding the final round on Easter Sunday, but i guess its tradition. i'm not sure what to expect from Tiger. if i'm picking someone other than him, i'd probably go with Geoff Ogilvy. i think he's the 2nd best golfer in the world right now. Padraig Harrington is another i like to be in the mix.

and yes, it is true. Padraig is related to the man, the myth, the legend.

[we are cured]

ah we usually do separate threads for the majors, i'll make one

[bigmike]

Padraig is also related to Dan Harrington, the poker player.

[preppyak]

Damn...Tiger's shot at 15 was incredible today.

[Scott Weber]

I just got some new clubs.

Nike Slingshot 4D Irons (http://shop.pgatour.com/clubs/nike/iron-set/slingshot-4d/p_pd-1012319.aspx), and a Yes! C-Groove Victoria II putter (http://www.amazon.com/Yes-C-Groove-Putter-Victoria-II/dp/B000SQNP8A).

[S/T]

Bump.

Villegas starting off the year really well, looking to close at the Honda.

Kim in good position for a top 5.

[MenosDaBear]

I started playing 1/2 way through last season and I absolutely love it. I was playing 3-4 times a week. Until it got cold :(

[redsoxguy676]

Friendly bump. Just picked up some new Callaway irons tonight, can't wait to get out there tomorrow and see what they are really made of.

Anyone else enjoying this perfect golfing weather in the east?

[we are cured]

i will be tomorrow, can't wait. what callaways did you get?

[YourNewestSam]

Far too cold and windy to play golf in England atm. Be good practice for The Open though :-p

[Tyler Vagyler]

anybody else watching the Tiger press conference?

[live.]

First trip to the driving range today. Sucked with my low no.'d irons, but my chipping and driving was on!

Side note: Nice to see the new Tiger. Hopefully his chivalry lasts, as I heard he signed a TON of autographs so far -- probably more than he's ever signed at a tournament in his career.

[we are cured]

shot 86 the other day first time out this season, 3 putted four times and really screwed up some 40-60 yard pitches...but that stuff comes with playing. it's gonna be a good year.

[whenyourearound]

5NTRvlrP2NU&feature=pyv&ad=5188471984&kw=nike%20tiger%20commercial

new nike tiger ad

[zunod]

i got a niceTitleist AP2 Iron Set from http://www.gogogolfmart.com/goods-447-Titleist+AP2+Iron+Set.html

[SgtSmegma]

Does anyone know much about club quality and such?this guy at work is trying to sell me a brand new set of clubs that he claims is worth $3000 to me for $300. They're Wilson Fujikama 160? Any help would be appreciated

[we are cured]

never heard of them, although i am admittedly out of the loop when it comes to new clubs. i've been playing the same titleist 962b irons for about 10 years.

does anybody have video of their swing? i took some vids the other day and compared them with pro's, and it really helped out a couple of issues that i was having. i think it would be cool to post some of our swings and maybe offer some advice.

[Jason Tate]

http://www.thehighdefinite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/F43rf.jpg

[Under The Knife]

BUMP.

I bought a Ping G10 driver last week. Really liking how it hits. 3 years workin at a golf course and I'm finally getting good at this game haha

[joeag1985]

Tiger's having a bit of a shocker...

[Jason Tate]

I've figured it out. Tiger was waiting til he was like 15-1 in vegas, put a few million dollars on it. Now he takes it seriously, wins the PGA, and can pay the divorce settlement.

[inevitable]

I've figured it out. Tiger was waiting til he was like 15-1 in vegas, put a few million dollars on it. Now he takes it seriously, wins the PGA, and can pay the divorce settlement.

I saw that quote on espn...

[Jason Tate]

I saw that quote on espn...
I know. I typed it.

[inevitable]

I know. I typed it.

You're everywhere

[inevitable]

I know. I typed it.

if it was you that typed it the guy that tweeted it on updates didn't give you any credz.

[Jason Tate]

if it was you that typed it the guy that tweeted it on updates didn't give you any credz.
http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/columns/story?columnist=sobel_jason&page=CiL

[inevitable]

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/columns/story?columnist=sobel_jason&page=CiL

Not where I saw it.. I saw it on my phone while i was out and it looked nothing like that lol. It all makes sense now.

[S/T]

Phil just can't stop hitting people.

[we are cured]

great final round at the PGA. i wouldn't mind seeing elkington, mcilroy or watson win.

[preppyak]

I miss people closing out rounds...feels like the majors this year, its who misses the fewest shots, not who makes the most. Elkington may win, but he left 2 strokes on the course he should have had by missing fairly easy putts. McIlroy just missed an 8-10fter for Par...etc

I'd love it for someone to go birdie, birdie, par to close it out...rather than par, par, bogey

[preppyak]

Jesus...Dustin Johnson might be disqualified because of grounding his club in a "bunker". Of course, there were hundreds of people standing in the bunker watching him play

edit: wow, that thing looks like a worn out patch of sand. If I were Johnson, I'd just refuse to sign the card and walk away

[Tyler Vagyler]

One of the best final rounds of a tournament just took a bad turn....dustin got screwed

[JGood4]

Jesus...Dustin Johnson might be disqualified because of grounding his club in a "bunker". Of course, there were hundreds of people standing in the bunker watching him play

edit: wow, that thing looks like a worn out patch of sand. If I were Johnson, I'd just refuse to sign the card and walk away

He got screwed. There is no way that was a bunker.

What if he had made that putt? He would have celebrated and then have it taken away.

[MyWorldEntire]

If the gallery can step in it, it shouldn't be a bunker.

[preppyak]

He got screwed. There is no way that was a bunker.

What if he had made that putt? He would have celebrated and then have it taken away.
I didn't even think about that....now that would have been an amazing story...at least this way they can say "maybe he wouldn't have won"
If the gallery can step in it, it shouldn't be a bunker.
Yeah...when they went back to it, the only part that looked bunker-like was the right edge, but, there were people standing on that during his play. Pretty crazy

[we are cured]

its the trademark of a pete dye course to have bunkers all over the place. i don't agree with the ruling but i can understand it.

[S/T]

Just brutal. Can't believe that break for DJ. I almost made my avatar Bubba Watson this weekend but I didn't want to jinx him.

Nice put by Kaymer.

[preppyak]

well...thats one way to choke it away

[preppyak]

and Kaymer just won himself a major

[Stavie Steelo]

McIlroy is the man.

[70x7]

One of the best final rounds of a tournament just took a bad turn....dustin got screwed

Luckily Dustin is not a good guy.

[graysonigel]

Hey can someone help me with my golf swings? Please. ANy advice to improve it.