The 2007 NBA Draft Thread

[1moreandimfree]

Fernandez won't be over this year. Kopenenenenenenen might based on his summer league play.

[Scott Weber]

i dont hate him...he just was never going to develop into anything

dude was so good his first year, and shat the bed this year. players are supposed to get better,not worse
he wasn't that much worse, he scored less but the rest of his numbers were pretty much the same. way too hard on the guy, he can still be a 14/9 guy in this league (but he won't be in portland)

[Scott Weber]

Lets go Gerald Wallace, Vince Carter, Chauncey Billups, Rashard Lewis!!!!!!!!
All but Wallace will resign.

[xbrokendownx]

i hope not. they should unload chucky atkins hahaha
I like how Lowry plays
really doesn't matter, when you make the playoffs 3 years in a row and go 0-12 and fall right back to the worst record in the NBA something is wrong.
i'm pretty sure im the only grizzlies fan around these parts.





well i followed them because of Lowry...but stopped after he got hurt. he plays very well off teh ball, but i dont think theyll really use him and conley at the same time cuz theyre both 6'1

[xbrokendownx]

http://store.nba.com/gp/product/custom-preview/jersey.jpg/104-6523811-0799925?ie=UTF8&league=core&asin=B000JIK6WA&view=back&name=RANDOLPH&number=50

[xbrokendownx]

ive said it before and ill say it again....Gerald Wallace is the most underrated player in the NBA

[werealldudes19]

well i followed them because of Lowry...but stopped after he got hurt. he plays very well off teh ball, but i dont think theyll really use him and conley at the same time cuz theyre both 6'1

they disappoint me so much
I was just happy to see the picked conley because he was the best available guy
If they would have let him go, there was a chance i would wish death upon pau gasol

[StandMyBrothers]

I need a Stanko jersey!

[Scott Weber]

Brenton get back on AIM

[AshesAshes]

Knicks will be back in the playoffs finally

[1moreandimfree]

Nichols traded for a future second.

[werealldudes19]

Knicks will be back in the playoffs finally
only in the eastern conference
haha

[1moreandimfree]

Blazers have another trade lined up for a 3 but KP said he'll get fined for talking about a SF addition in addition to our 3 trades; and it'll happen in 7-10 days. The NY trade has to be formally finished before the other trade.

[Broken Parachute]

I need a Horford jersey.

[AshesAshes]

Im gonna get me an Almond jersey

[StandMyBrothers]

so did Jianlian make his decision yet? And is there a "shitty wall' there haha. freaking Mongolians.

[AshesAshes]

I love the Bucks for taking that chump

[1moreandimfree]

I'm going to have my dad put in an order for a oden jersey tomorrow.

[Broken Parachute]

As said by Bigmike...

Communism > Milwaukee

[fire on my lips]

Very pleased to see Josh McEurope go in the second round. That should allow him to join legendary CSKA Moscow (winner of 14 of 16 Russian Superleague Championships) in time for the start of the preseason.

[StandMyBrothers]

I hope the Greece guy has a better year than Spanoulis

[1moreandimfree]

james jones is a blazer

[livethesounds]

james jones is a blazer

waaa what happend??

[1moreandimfree]

We picked up a trade exception from New York and sent it to the Suns in the Rudy Fernandez trade.

Francis
Frye
3m trade exception

To Portland for:

Randolph
Jones
Dickau

____

3m trade exception
Cash

to Phoenix for:

Rudy Fernandez
James Jones

[StandMyBrothers]

James Jones wasn't much after that year 2 season ago.

[Scott Weber]

David Thorpe Gives Sam Presti an A+ (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-0-7/David-Thorpe-Gives-Sam-Presti-an-A-.html) http://assets.espn.go.com/profile/i/trans/icon_report_hi.gif (http://myespn.go.com/profile/violation?ou=truehoopadmin2&at=7&vid=1183080539551)
June 28, 2007 9:28 PM
Kevin Durant said yesterday that he did not need to be a savior in Seattle, because Ray Allen was there. Now Ray Allen is not there.
It's a bit of a dizzying set of changes for Seattle. Does it all make sense?
ESPN's David Thorpe is all for it. He says:
Sam Presti is hitting the reset button. Now Wally Szczerbiak starts at the two. They will probably move one of their point guards, Luke Ridnour or Earl Watson. Delonte West is a fabulous guy, and he'll give you some good minutes.
Then Jeff Green is an off the charts good person, and probably the best player in this draft -- except for maybe Julian Wright -- to play alongside Kevin Durant. He can help the team without needing the ball, while being your third go-to guy.
I don't think they really have a center. But now maybe you can sign-and-trade Rashard Lewis for someone. I don't think it will happen, but perhaps a point guard and Lewis could get you Jermaine O'Neal. Remember: Indiana is desperate for point guards.
But you certainly don't have to say goodbye to Lewis. He can stay and it would be fine. Kevin Durant, Rashard Lewis, and Jeff Green can all play multiple positions. Even if Kevin Durant comes off the bench and plays 30 minutes, like Ben Gordon did in Chicago, then that would be fine.
Sam Presti has made a great start.

[AshesAshes]

The Jazz traded Herbert Hill to Philly for Kyrylo Fesenko from Ukraine.

[Broken Parachute]

We got Demetris Nichols, too?

[gonz]

I'll definitely be asking for a Memphis Conley jersey and a Portland Oden jersey for Christmas.

[1moreandimfree]

We got Demetris Nichols, too?

Yeah, for a future second rounder.

[bigmike]

I liked all 3 picks the Pistons made in Stuckey, Afflalo and Sammy Mejia. Also Portland's done an unreal job, with some luck, reshaping that entire roster in the last 2 years or so.

[Broken Parachute]

Yeah, for a future second rounder.I like that.

[Jason Tate]

Heh, in a weird twist of fate we ended up with McRoberts. Weiiiiiiiiird.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Great trade by Bird to land STANKO! Funny thing is by the time he's actually on the team in 3 years, Bird will be canned.

[Scott Weber]

Heh, in a weird twist of fate we ended up with McRoberts. Weiiiiiiiiird.
I am totally not sold on the guy, but on a team with so much talent like Portland now, as long as he doesn't have to be a 1st or even 2nd option on offense he is a steal that late.

[StandMyBrothers]

Heh, in a weird twist of fate we ended up with McRoberts. Weiiiiiiiiird.
So are you happy bout that?

[Jason Tate]

So are you happy bout that?
Mixed feelings.

[Broken Parachute]

I feel like Portland drafted 10 guys today.

[bigmike]

I think McRoberts can succeed as an occasional 2nd option but primarily 3rd option in an offense, like Scott said. Interesting to hear Jay Bilas talk about McRoberts impressing while playing AAU ball with Oden in Indiana. I completely forgot McRoberts was from Indiana.

[+thecalisonme]

danny ainge made a good trade kinda shocking

[+thecalisonme]

remember last time atlanta passed on top 5 point guards in the draft..deron williams/chris paul

[zizou1790]

Brandan Wright for Jason Richardson? what the fuck were the bobcats thinking

[StandMyBrothers]

Apparently Charlotte really never wanted Wright at all. 27,500 Asian Americans in Milwaukee woohoo, definately the market Yi was looking for

[im_a_music_nut]

GO GATORS!! woo hoooooo!

[Scott Weber]

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[1moreandimfree]

hahahahahahahah that's great

[HoustonCalling]

High Comedy from the Sports Guy:

It's only fitting that Stern's microphone went out right as he was announcing New Jersey's pick at 17: troubled BC star Sean Williams, the perfect rebounder/shot-blocker on paper for the the Nets. Unfortunately, Sean couldn't attend the draft because he's home watching "Planet Earth" on Blu-ray and eating three bags of Doritos at once.

Dickie V. and S.A.S. scream at each other in a split-screen for a while, followed by them making a dinner bet about whether the 2007 draft will prove deeper than the 2003 draft. Imagine being the waiter at that table? Guys, seriously, don't bother tipping me; I slit both of my wrists 10 minutes ago and I'm bleeding to death as we speak. Thanks, though.

[Scott Weber]

hahahaha oh my god, that video gets funnier and funnier every time I watch it.

[xbrokendownx]

haha oh man thats better than the one last year


"EVERYTHING I HAVE TO SAY IS IMPORTANT!"

[livethesounds]

in irrelivant news to everyone else, the Magic traded their 2nd rounder Rayshawn Terry (F, North Carolina) to the Mavericks for some big ero dude drafted last.

[xbrokendownx]

someone needs to sign Sumpter

[Split2nd]

Where do you guys get that Yi is automatically going to be horrible? It's anyone's guess at this point, it's laughable how some of you are just writing him off to be a bust without seeing him play against some good competition.

The Lakers' second rounder, Sun Yue looks really good. 6'9" with handles. The "Chinese Magic Johnson"

[livethesounds]

Where do you guys get that Yi is automatically going to be horrible? It's anyone's guess at this point, it's laughable how some of you are just writing him off to be a bust without seeing him play against some good competition.

The Lakers' second rounder, Sun Yue looks really good. 6'9" with handles. The "Chinese Magic Johnson"

you should know by know, if the consensus don't like a certain player, he's automatically going to suck because of it.

[Broken Parachute]

I hope someone eventually signs Russell Carter. Chris Quinn went undrafted and got signed by Miami...and Carter is an overall better value.

[AshesAshes]

Hahahaha,Joakim Noah is the peoples princess

[Scott Weber]

And the Sonics traded Carl Landry for cash and a 2nd rounder next year. Oh well.

[livethesounds]

And the Sonics traded Carl Landry for cash and a 2nd rounder next year. Oh well.

they were kind of logjammed at that position. who did they trade him to?

[Drew Beringer]

So Weebs, is that trade you IM'd me about earlier legit?

[allisterkid]

Man fuck the Rockets. They better at least address the power forward situation in free agency or with a trade. They don't have one power forward under contract (even Chuck Hayes is a free agent till they hopefully re-sign him).

[Scott Weber]

So Weebs, is that trade you IM'd me about earlier legit?
No, total rumors. May happen but it's just out there, no proposed or anything.

[Scott Weber]

Man fuck the Rockets. They better at least address the power forward situation in free agency or with a trade. They don't have one power forward under contract (even Chuck Hayes is a free agent till they hopefully re-sign him).
We traded you Carl Landry, PF.

[livethesounds]

We traded you Carl Landry, PF.

ooh, ok, good move by Houston then.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070629/capt.13e1515c600d46cc8a1f5d9c89568a ae.trail_blazers_oden_basketball_pd 102.jpg

[TinMan20]

hey scott weber, you have any dirt on KG trade rumors?

[Drew Beringer]

No, total rumors. May happen but it's just out there, no proposed or anything.
ok, I actually like that deal. I hope it can go through.

[allisterkid]

We traded you Carl Landry, PF.

Yeah I saw that, but I don't know much about him. The fact that he's a 6'7 power forward, though, doesn't make me too stoked. Yao's already showed that he can't handle the bulk of the rebounding by himself.

[Scott Weber]

hey scott weber, you have any dirt on KG trade rumors?
hey your full name, not really.

[livethesounds]

ok, I actually like that deal. I hope it can go through.

is this confidential information or something? haha

hey scott weber, you have any dirt on KG trade rumors?

so far the Suns, Warriors, and Mavericks are giving the Wolves the most phone action at the moment.

[Scott Weber]

The suggested deal to Indiana is a sign and trade Rashard Lewis and Luke Ridnour for Jermaine O'Neal. This deal has very little proof that it's actually even on the table.

[Drew Beringer]

haha no it was Lewis and Ridnour for JO.

and damn, I won't be getting an Oden jersey for a while, they only have men's sizes and those are too big, will have to wait till they make Youth sizes hahaha

[livethesounds]

The suggested deal to Indiana is a sign and trade Rashard Lewis and Luke Ridnour for Jermaine O'Neal. This deal has very little proof that it's actually even on the table.

hm...idk how i feel about that honestly. would you be in favor?

[Drew Beringer]

hm...idk how i feel about that honestly. would you be in favor?
Yes.

[livethesounds]

haha no it was Lewis and Ridnour for JO.

and damn, I won't be getting an Oden jersey for a while, they only have men's sizes and those are too big, will have to wait till they make Youth sizes hahaha

a mens medium cant possibly be that big.

[Drew Beringer]

a mens medium cant possibly be that big.
They are, my brother has a mens medium Wade uni and it's huge. I have a Kids XL of JO and it fits perfectly on me.

[Scott Weber]

men's medium NBA jerseys are gigantic. they would probably fit right on a 6'3'' 200 lbs dude.

[livethesounds]

Yes.

ok, so who plays point for the sonics next year?

[livethesounds]

men's medium NBA jerseys are gigantic. they would probably fit right on a 6'3'' 200 lbs dude.

6'3" 185...close enough

[Drew Beringer]

ok, so who plays point for the sonics next year?
I don't know and I don't give a fuck haha.

[Drew Beringer]

6'3" 185...close enough
and I'm 5"10 and 160 pounds.

[livethesounds]

I don't know and I don't give a fuck haha.

haha i forgot you're a pacers fan for a second. maybe that question was more aimed twoards scott.

[Scott Weber]

ok, so who plays point for the sonics next year?
Earl Watson, Delonte West...maybe Brevin Knight now.

[livethesounds]

Earl Watson, Delonte West...maybe Brevin Knight now.

yea, well no way they stay there in the long term. I guess you can't expect the team to contend right out of the gate, but with JO, Durant and Green...man. I'd think they'd make a few deals trading away Collison and some of their bigs for another guard.

[Scott Weber]

yea, well no way they stay there in the long term. I guess you can't expect the team to contend right out of the gate, but with JO, Durant and Green...man. I'd think they'd make a few deals trading away Collison and some of their bigs for another guard.
I fully expect the Sonics to contend for a 7 or 8 seed right away with that lineup, or even if they Rashard. And for as much shit as we all give Wally Szczerbiak, this is a dude that scored 20 ppg just the year before last. They also have Damien Wilkins at guard...but yes they do need another guard if they trade Ridnour. Otherwise we'll see a lot of Wally and maybe even the super versatile Jeff Green at 2 this year. It'll be a big lineup.

[livethesounds]

I fully expect the Sonics to contend for a 7 or 8 seed right away with that lineup, or even if they Rashard. And for as much shit as we all give Wally Szczerbiak, this is a dude that scored 20 ppg just the year before last. They also have Damien Wilkins at guard...but yes they do need another guard if they trade Ridnour. Otherwise we'll see a lot of Wally and maybe even the super versatile Jeff Green at 2 this year. It'll be a big lineup.

i cant wait to see durant against the power forwards in the league. god he's going to be a monster.

[AshesAshes]

I cant wait for the Rocky Mountain revue im gonna go see all these guys play for 5 dollars

[LeftWideOpen]

alright ive been out in the mountains of new hampshire for the past 4 days being a mountain man, so i missed the draft. this thread is huge and im not gonna go back and read it all, so i'll just give my 2 cents:

1st, I have mixed feelings about the Seattle-Boston deal. While I loved that we added a 1A type player next to Pierce, Allen is definitely a risky investment. He's coming off surgery and hes 32, which is nearing the end for SG's. I do, however, like the package we gave up. Wally had become useless to this team, serving only one purpose: clogging up the roster and taking away minutes from younger guys because of his contract. Delonte West is a very good combo guard to have come off the bench, but he was never going to be more then that. Jeff Green, as bright as his future may be, was only going to make this team younger. We couldnt afford to do that ..we've been getting younger for the past 4-5 years. I think this a deal that benefited both teams, but the C's definitely took a risk in making it. If Allen plays a full season at his full potential, the C's are contenders in the East. If he has another year like last, we may just be a border-line playoff team (which would be an obvious failure). And finally, all the pressure is on Tony Allen now. He needs to finally stay healthy and play the incredible defense that he's shown and the C's need. We'll be worthless on defense without his contributions.

As for the rest of the draft .. I thought a lot of teams made really good moves. The only high lottery pick that made me shake my head was the Bucks taking Jianlian. I didnt see much of a need there for him and he came out publicly and said he didnt want to play there. It wouldnt surprise me if he never reached his potential there. The best picks (outside of Oden and Durant), to me, were Minnesota going w/ Corey Brewer at #7 and New Oreleans taking Julian Wright at #13. I love the fit for both guys and I think both will immediately make those teams better. They also got great value at both spots.

As for the BC guys, I think Sean Williams to NJ was a slam dunk. It'll take him time to come around w/ his offense, but he gives them the dominating defensive presence that the team needs. They need to make sure they keep him in line, however, since the past has shown he can't be relied upon. I was thrilled to see Jared Dudley go so high to Charlotte, but I question the fit. Charlotte just committed to Morrison ...why spend your 1st rounder on another wingman? Dudley will be an immediate contributor off the bench w/ his defense, and I think he may eventually supplant Morrison, but he wont be given many opportunities. Morrison will be given every opportunity to keep his job because of the resources the team invested in him.

[Split2nd]

I really am loving Sun Yue. His videos look so good.