Anthony Green vs. Jesse Lacey

[tenmarcoe]

I am just curious who people think the better singer/songwriter is out of these 2.

[jay_klinkhammer]

Anthony Green is far superior. Everyone needs to get off of Brand New's cock. Face it, they aren't that great.

[halifaxonfire]

i'm not a fan of either, but i voted for Anthony Green cos i can't stand Jesse Lacey's voice.

[DanceJamesDance]

Anthony Green is far superior. Everyone needs to get off of Brand New's cock. Face it, they aren't that great.

Yipeeee! Although I have heard that Anthony is quite the douche.

[ashesofapril234]

Anthony Green is far superior. Everyone needs to get off of Brand New's cock. Face it, they aren't that great.

Amen!

[MasonR5]

anthony green's voice is annoying

[IATA4224]

Both are great singers.. Anthony is more versatile, but I prefer Jesse..

[WFUJerseyJon]

how about other choices? that's like asking ketchup or mustard and leaving out bbq sauce. shameful!

[DanceJamesDance]

Jesse Lacey by a long long way, he is a vastly supeior song writer, he writes some of the best lyrics is modern music and unlike Green actually has some range in his voice. I'm very happy he will win this very easilly.

i respect your opinion but you are dead wrong by saying Anthony Green has no range.

[jay_klinkhammer]

Listen to A-Green's Audience of One, etc. He has a VAST range.


He went from mostly screaming to having one of the best voices in history.

This doesn't ask who is more of a douchebag, it asks who has a better resume. And by body of work, A. Green wins.

[DanceJamesDance]

Listen to A-Green's Audience of One, etc. He has a VAST range.


He went from mostly screaming to having one of the best voices in history.

This doesn't ask who is more of a douchebag, it asks who has a better resume. And by body of work, A. Green wins.

Oh I voted for Anthony, I was just sayin...

[motioncity182]

this was hard
i went w/ jesse
because of TDAGARIM

brilliant album
superior to deja

[jay_klinkhammer]

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OH MY GOD.



What? don't be so shocked because you know nothing.

[Un'Aria Ancora]

Green - "We won't stop until the dawn has given it's all to you. The wall appraisal hides behind, an audience member."
Lacey - "Jesus Christ, I'm a lonely guy"
Green - "Leave out the meaning this time. Let tensions evolve, intimate groove confused in childish tantrums. Your feelings were sacrificed for a greater cause."
Lacey - "I am not your friend, I'm not your lover, I'm not your friend, yeah."

This is a fun game. I guess you can probably decide where my bias lies. Which voice you prefer in your ears is your choice of course, but Green has the range, that's not even an opinion...

[IATA4224]

Green - "We won't stop until the dawn has given it's all to you. The wall appraisal hides behind, an audience member."
Lacey - "Jesus Christ, I'm a lonely guy"
Green - "Leave out the meaning this time. Let tensions evolve, intimate groove confused in childish tantrums. Your feelings were sacrificed for a greater cause."
Lacey - "I am not your friend, I'm not your lover, I'm not your friend, yeah."

This is a fun game. I guess you can probably decide where my bias lies. Which voice you prefer in your ears is your choice of course, but Green has the range, that's not even an opinion...

I don't know how you can really compare the two as lyricists considering they are both great.. From what I know, Ant write first person lyrics and Jesse writes stories.. (I.E Limousine and You Won't Know)

As for projects, of course Ant wins, but singer wise I think they are both great.. Its was a tough decision but my Long Island boy wins..

[IATA4224]

I don't know how you can really compare the two as lyricists considering they are both great.. From what I know, Ant write first person lyrics and Jesse writes stories.. (I.E Limousine and You Won't Know)

As for projects, of course Ant wins, but singer wise I think they are both great.. Its was a tough decision but my Long Island boy wins..

BTW its, Jesus Christ I'm alone again..

[yoyoninjagirl]

anthony green

[ship of fools]

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHHAHAHAH

OH MY GOD.


yea unless your laughing at the "mostly" part beacuse every song with Jeer at Rome is 100% screaming...

[Un'Aria Ancora]

BTW its, Jesus Christ I'm alone again..

haha, sorry, i never really gave the new cd a chance, it just didn't appeal to me, i guess the old one didn't either... I do think he is a really good lyricist though.

[underthetalking]

Jesse Lacey. Anthony Green's voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me.

[underthetalking]

Listen to A-Green's Audience of One, etc. He has a VAST range.


He went from mostly screaming to having one of the best voices in history.

This doesn't ask who is more of a douchebag, it asks who has a better resume. And by body of work, A. Green wins.

Do you know what range is?

[Tristan Needler]

Lacey.


Green is bad.

[Tristan Needler]

yea unless your laughing at the "mostly" part beacuse every song with Jeer at Rome is 100% screaming...
I'm guessing he's laughing at the "one of the best" part because Anthony Green is a disaster.

[Gumbyjag]

Anthony Green. Jesse isn't all that he's cracked up to be, to say that he has better range than Anthony Green is a travesty, Jesse can't hold a note half the time live. Not to say that Lacey isn't a great songwriter, because he is, and has proven that over the years. Anthony Green just seems to beat him in my book.

[rerelease_]

how is this poll so close?
well, i like jesse's songwriting a lot more than anthony's

[okc0mputer]

they both write good lyrics and both have good voices. you idiots who come in just to hate on one or the other because other people like them for reasons you dont agree with, are fucking pathetic and annoying. and yes, green does have good range

[Un'Aria Ancora]

Do you know what range is?

hmm, isn't that the part where green has a 4 octave range and lacey doesn't?

[IATA4224]

Anthony Green. Jesse isn't all that he's cracked up to be, to say that he has better range than Anthony Green is a travesty, Jesse can't hold a note half the time live. Not to say that Lacey isn't a great songwriter, because he is, and has proven that over the years. Anthony Green just seems to beat him in my book.

How many times have you seen Brand New, honestly? I don't know how many times I have said it, but I have seen them 10 times total, 6 times in the last 2 months and Lacey has yet to ever be a disaster like some of you say.. Just say that you prefer Anthony over Jesse, don't throw out false accusations because you are wrong

[emotionaleraser]

You guys (and girls) are gettingly horribly into this, aren't you? They both have talent, they both have flaws. Neither of them really qualify as to the best, but the poll didn't ask for that. It IS an opinion poll, and people really should be allowed to have an opinion. Though, with that opinion, comes the obligation to hold off on comments directed at other people's opinions, or, for that matter, for the sake of the poll, the reasons why their opinion seems to matter more than the other participants.

[IATA4224]

You guys (and girls) are gettingly horribly into this, aren't you? They both have talent, they both have flaws. Neither of them really qualify as to the best, but the poll didn't ask for that. It IS an opinion poll, and people really should be allowed to have an opinion. Though, with that opinion, comes the obligation to hold off on comments directed at other people's opinions, or, for that matter, for the sake of the poll, the reasons why their opinion seems to matter more than the other participants.

This is a forum to discuss, argue, and debate our OWN tastes on music and musicians.. I don't really think that we are attacking anybodies person, just their musical taste.. Shit, I get criticized for liking From First to Last, but that doesn't mean shit to me.. I like a lot of bands that lots of people would categorize as shit, but it doesn't bother me and it certainly shouldn't bother you..

This is a music site, people are going to agree and people are going to disagree.. That's life.. And the good thing about the internet is that we can voice our opinions

[paperthin]

technically jesse lacey is a better singer but overall, green is better in my opinion.

its like comparing paul gilbert and kurt cobain, gilbert kicks the shit out of him technically but does any remember the songs he wrote? most probably dont.

not saying that brand new is not known, i just don't think jesse lacey has legenary status like green does.

[DanceJamesDance]

This is a forum to discuss, argue, and debate our OWN tastes on music and musicians.. I don't really think that we are attacking anybodies person, just their musical taste.. Shit, I get criticized for liking From First to Last, but that doesn't mean shit to me.. I like a lot of bands that lots of people would categorize as shit, but it doesn't bother me and it certainly shouldn't bother you..

This is a music site, people are going to agree and people are going to disagree.. That's life.. And the good thing about the internet is that we can voice our opinions

I agree. However, there is a way you should go about doing this. Be respectful. Don't go around calling other people names or attacking them personally.

As far as From First to Last goes, Dear Diary... is freaking amazing. Their Aesthetic EP was good. Herione sucked monkey nuts haha but i dont get why it is the cool thing to hate bands when they get popular. Everyone loved FFTL (and most nobody bitched about Sonnys voice) until they were number one on purevolume and smartpunk. Then, like with most bands these days, people started hating them. "Oh I never liked FFTL they suck. Sonny is terrible". Bull. People did that with Blink-182 at too. You shouldn't not like a bands music just because 14 year olds like it too. Good music, is good music. The music should be the only thing that matters. Not the frontman, not the way they dress, but the music.

I don't go to shows of popular bands though. I want to punch 10 year old girls in the face too much for pogoing..

[IATA4224]

technically jesse lacey is a better singer but overall, green is better in my opinion.

its like comparing paul gilbert and kurt cobain, gilbert kicks the shit out of him technically but does any remember the songs he wrote? most probably dont.

not saying that brand new is not known, i just don't think jesse lacey has legenary status like green does.

I'd actually go with the opposite on that.. Most would probably know Jesse Lacey rather than Anthony green.. In reality how many people, who follow Circa Survive, rather than Green individually, know that he was in High and Driving, Jeer at Rome, sang on Zoloft the Rock n Roll Destroyer, and The Sound of Animals Fighting?

Neither of these two are legends and don't want to be.. They just write good music

[YOUWONTKNOW]

i like both anthony green and jesse lacey. I just feel jesse's lyrics flow better. Anthonys lyrics just dont fit to me. Also vocally id have to go with jesse, i like anthony but after awhile his voice is just too much. So jesse in my opinion

[DanceJamesDance]

FFTL have always sucked and i have never liked them most people recognised this with FFTL from the beginning.

Stop being stupid, just cause you were a kid when they came out doesn't mean older kids didn't realise what trash it was from day one.

i do believe a lot of people never like FFTL. I'm just saying that most of the people that hate them now actually at some point did like them but just jumped on the bandwagon of hating bands.

Actually I heard FFTL through older kids than me. I'm glad you know my life story though.

[IATA4224]

i do believe a lot of people never like FFTL. I'm just saying that most of the people that hate them now actually at some point did like them but just jumped on the bandwagon of hating bands.

Actually I heard FFTL through older kids than me. I'm glad you know my life story though.

This has nothing to do with Lunchforthesky, but the cool thing to do is hate on bands these days.. Granted some deserve more hate than others, absolutepunk.net posters love to hate on FFTL.. They aren't the greatest band in the world, nor are they doing anything special..

I'll be the first to admit it, they are nothing special, but I do happen to like them..

[Un'Aria Ancora]

Firstly you got the Brand New lyrics wrong and secondly you compared small fragments to large sections. Show some fucking honesty you idiot.

hmm, maybe i already apologized for not caring enough about brand new to learn the lyrics, a band has to be musically, vocally, and lyrically talented for me to get in to them. and i do think he is a great lyricist. and i did say that you can clearly see where my bias lies, bitch.

[Un'Aria Ancora]

He doesn't have range. That is his normal voice. When he talks, it is that high. His voice hardly changes from being that high ever, therefore he doesn't have range. His voice is phenomenal, don't get me wrong, but range? i don't think too much.

My vote is for Jesse.

If he talked like he sang i would laugh at him constantly. and it's true, he can comfortably sing in 4 octaves, jesse can not. range? i think so.

[Un'Aria Ancora]

man, lacey vs. green is more opinionated than abortion... or unicorns.

[Un'Aria Ancora]

I guess I should take it from you. I mean your name is a TSOAF song, so you would know more then anyone else.

How in the fuck did you know that!? You must be from Italy to know that is exactly what it translates as. And I didn't say you should take it from me, have you ever listened to him, he can sing in 4 octaves, i didn't just pull it out of my ass.

[Un'Aria Ancora]

Brand New music is far more complicated on TDAG than Circa Survive's and lyrically they own Circa by a mile. If you aren't going to comapre fairly then don't post.

I'm terribly sorry that I offended you when i posted that. You don't even know man, can I send you an apology in the mail maybe?
anyway
what's more complicated? not the drums and not the guitars, not the time signatures, lyrics are your own opinion... If you're not going to post truthfully then don't post.
I'm guessing that you don't play drums, guitar, or sing... am i close?

[DanceJamesDance]

This has nothing to do with Lunchforthesky, but the cool thing to do is hate on bands these days.. Granted some deserve more hate than others, absolutepunk.net posters love to hate on FFTL.. They aren't the greatest band in the world, nor are they doing anything special..

I'll be the first to admit it, they are nothing special, but I do happen to like them..

Agree 100%. They aren't amazing but they (were) great at what they do.

[tom_q]

Anthony green in a better singer.
Jesse Lacey is a better songwriter.

[Un'Aria Ancora]

I play all three and i'm guessing you haven't actually listened to the latest Brand New album.

Well, I've listened to Limousine, Sowing Season, Millstone, Welcome to Bangkok, Degausser, and Jesus Christ more than enough and haven't been impressed with vocals or guitar and especially drums. Good lyrics though. Please let me know of a song that shows this talent that i'm just not hearing.

[IATA4224]

Well, I've listened to Limousine, Sowing Season, Millstone, Welcome to Bangkok, Degausser, and Jesus Christ more than enough and haven't been impressed with vocals or guitar and especially drums. Good lyrics though. Please let me know of a song that shows this talent that i'm just not hearing.

Dude, Brand New isn't trying to change the landscape of music.. Limousine isn't supposed to be a groundbreaking song, its a story about a kid in Long Island who was 4 times over the legal limit of intoxication, going the opposite direction on some highway, crashing into a family who just got married, killing their 12 year old daughter.. Sowing Season is a rendition of a Rudyard Kipling poem.. This is just pointless to even talk about..

You obviously are a very one sided person, considering you have the name of one of the Sound of Animals Fighting songs as your handle..

I haven't listen to one Circa Survive song where they don't use some sort of effects pedal.. Brand New is a straight up rock/indie whatever you wanna call it band.. They are what they are.. There's no point in even explaining it to you, because you probably also think Chiodos is a great band..

If your looking for songs that make Vin Accardi look like Tom Morello you're looking in the wrong place..

In fact after looking at what you do listen to, its pretty obvious where your allegiance lies.. Sorry but 90% of the bands you have listed are just a rip-off of the next band

[IATA4224]

Just because they aren't shredding like DEP doesn't mean the songs aren't technical they have a lot more going on it them and such than a Circa song. Especially Limousine with all the bow playing and explosions etc..

Actually, when I saw them last, they said that in some of the songs over 27 instruments were used in the recording, which is one of the reasons why they have the members of other bands come out an play with them

[DanceJamesDance]

Additionally Circa is a major Dredg rip off, at least Brand New are original for the most part, as well as reinventing their soudn every album rather than Circa who have made almost exactly the same one twice.


If Brand New is so original, why do you always say they are today's Radiohead and TDAG is Radioheads "Ok Computer". Just wondering.

[DanceJamesDance]

Ok. So how is TDAG like Ok Computer? What part of TDAG was influenced by Ok? I hate Radiohead so I don't know much about their records.

[DanceJamesDance]

Ok.

[notoaststereo]

anathony green has a better voice. jesse voice is annoying... but i like brand new more than most of the stuff circa has done (mainly because i havent given circa much of a chance)

[Un'Aria Ancora]

Dude, Brand New isn't trying to change the landscape of music.. Limousine isn't supposed to be a groundbreaking song, its a story about a kid in Long Island who was 4 times over the legal limit of intoxication, going the opposite direction on some highway, crashing into a family who just got married, killing their 12 year old daughter.. Sowing Season is a rendition of a Rudyard Kipling poem.. This is just pointless to even talk about..

You obviously are a very one sided person, considering you have the name of one of the Sound of Animals Fighting songs as your handle..

I haven't listen to one Circa Survive song where they don't use some sort of effects pedal.. Brand New is a straight up rock/indie whatever you wanna call it band.. They are what they are.. There's no point in even explaining it to you, because you probably also think Chiodos is a great band..

If your looking for songs that make Vin Accardi look like Tom Morello you're looking in the wrong place..

In fact after looking at what you do listen to, its pretty obvious where your allegiance lies.. Sorry but 90% of the bands you have listed are just a rip-off of the next band

1. I know what they are about.
2. judging the bands that you listen to, your stuck in the past.
3. chiodos isn't great.
4. what does a tsoaf song have to do with anything? it's just a name that sounds cool i thought.
last. I don't think i'm one sided because I don't absolutely love the same band as you. get over yourself.

[IATA4224]

1. I know what they are about.
2. judging the bands that you listen to, your stuck in the past.
3. chiodos isn't great.
4. what does a tsoaf song have to do with anything? it's just a name that sounds cool i thought.
last. I don't think i'm one sided because I don't absolutely love the same band as you. get over yourself.


Well, the past has proven to give us great music.. There are maybe a handful of bands that are actually worth listening to in the present time.. I'd rather listen to bands that are not together or have broken up and moved beyond what they have done, than listen to music that has no meaning, or for that matter a trend.. How many glassjaw's are there.. How many movielife's are there.. No one is doing anything differently.. It's easy to sing and write about heartbreak, considering every person in the world will go through it at some point, but its old..

Ant Green is a great singer/songwriter.. Green and Lacey are great at what they do, but they are entirely different.. Green is an abstract writer, Lacey writes stories.. I've never disrespected anything that Green has ever done.. What do you look for in a band or for that matter a singer? How high he can hit notes? Lyrics? The way they dress? It seems that your missing the underlying theme of Brand New, which is simple, yet sincere music..

I am over myself..

[Un'Aria Ancora]

Just because they aren't shredding like DEP doesn't mean the songs aren't technical they have a lot more going on it them and such than a Circa song. Especially Limousine with all the bow playing and explosions etc..

nobody said anything about shredding. see, i thought that by complicated you meant something other than basic 4/4 drumming and power chords, my mistake. you meant background noise and a violin... my bad. ok, how does this sound, for the record, "i like brand new, but not as much as circa. just like fftl and bn for you." is that ok or are you going to continue to "persuade" me?

BN fans are definitely the most irritable, it's hilarious.

[Un'Aria Ancora]

Well, the past has proven to give us great music.. There are maybe a handful of bands that are actually worth listening to in the present time.. I'd rather listen to bands that are not together or have broken up and moved beyond what they have done, than listen to music that has no meaning, or for that matter a trend.. How many glassjaw's are there.. How many movielife's are there.. No one is doing anything differently.. It's easy to sing and write about heartbreak, considering every person in the world will go through it at some point, but its old..

Ant Green is a great singer/songwriter.. Green and Lacey are great at what they do, but they are entirely different.. Green is an abstract writer, Lacey writes stories.. I've never disrespected anything that Green has ever done.. What do you look for in a band or for that matter a singer? How high he can hit notes? Lyrics? The way they dress? It seems that your missing the underlying theme of Brand New, which is simple, yet sincere music..

I am over myself..

that's exactly what i think i brand new, simple and sincere. don't get me wrong, i like older music too, the classic bands that you just don't get anymore. but that's exactly why circa is at the top for me, everything is not about heartbreak, they stay away from power chords, and the abstract lyrics amaze me. they go for something different, it's refreshing for me anyway. i've just never heard anything more in brand new than cool lyrics, which is enough to get me to listen, they just aren't my favorite by any means, sorry. and of course lyrics are a big part of whether or not i like a band, does that not matter to you? why would the way the dress matter to me?

[Un'Aria Ancora]

I knew that because I actually am a pretty big fan of Ant and his projects. I remember the Saosin days back when I was in 8th grade, all the way up through the latest Circa CD. I actually AM a fan. But I'm not ignorant enough to say that he is a better musician or songwriter than Jesse. Your voice can only take you so far, and shit like American Idol is a great representation of that.

i was lying, un'aria ancora does not mean that i know more than you, i'm glad you're serious though. and I never said he was a better musician, i think he's a better singer and lyricist, you really really don't have to. speaking of tsoaf, why do you think they wanted green on record rather than lacey?
dang, brand new fans and circa fans will never agree...

[Un'Aria Ancora]

Very little of TDAG is power chords and do Circa break from 4/4 time signatures?

circa very rarely uses 4/4 timing, and power chords are pretty much obsolete, on juturna and olg. i know deja better than tdag, i went by that and what i've heard from tdad, it's ok to be simple though, i just don't think it's as cool.

[IATA4224]

that's exactly what i think i brand new, simple and sincere. don't get me wrong, i like older music too, the classic bands that you just don't get anymore. but that's exactly why circa is at the top for me, everything is not about heartbreak, they stay away from power chords, and the abstract lyrics amaze me. they go for something different, it's refreshing for me anyway. i've just never heard anything more in brand new than cool lyrics, which is enough to get me to listen, they just aren't my favorite by any means, sorry. and of course lyrics are a big part of whether or not i like a band, does that not matter to you? why would the way the dress matter to me?

I was only kidding about the dress part.. Both of these bands are great at what they do.. Both make good honest music.. It's quite alright to disagree and I think we have both made our points.. I am nothing more than a fan of music, where I'm sure you and lunch can debate about the 4/4 and power chords thing all day..

I think we will just agree to disagree now.. Honestly, who really cares anyway... Both bands are good at what they do and aren't trying to do anything other than that..

[IATA4224]

i was lying, un'aria ancora does not mean that i know more than you, i'm glad you're serious though. and I never said he was a better musician, i think he's a better singer and lyricist, you really really don't have to. speaking of tsoaf, why do you think they wanted green on record rather than lacey?
dang, brand new fans and circa fans will never agree...


I will agree with you on your point regarding TSOAF and their choice for Green.. If you do read any interview with Matt Embree regarding his choice, he does state that Ant has the best voice in music, which is not deniable.. Personally, I don't think that Jesse would have fit for that anyway.. If you take it a step further, TSOAF is something that Ant would do rather than Jesse, at least in my opinion..

[IATA4224]

Thinking about it most of the songs on TDAG are not in 4/4 and even then it's not as though time signatures changes indicates good music or else we'd all listen to Pysopus and DEP.

I still fail to see how Circa make in any way complex music, it all seems very structured to me. Pop songs with too much obnoxious reverb and delay.


O the Dillinger Escape Plan is a phenomenal band.. But I can see why some people cant listen to them...

[Tellie Norisco]

I'm not a huge fan of either, but I went with Anthony. Jesse's voice/Brand New piss me off, whereas Anthony is a solid, accomplished, talented musician.

[IATA4224]

I'm not a huge fan of either, but I went with Anthony. Jesse's voice/Brand New piss me off, whereas Anthony is a solid, accomplished, talented musician.

Un'Aria, this statement above is one of the reasons why Brand New fans, i.e myself, get angry..

How could this girl possibly say that Brand New, or for that matter, Jesse is not solid, unaccomplished, or a talented musician.. Sorry Tellie, but go check the sales records for Brand New and then look at Circa Survive.. You may be shocked that your statement is actually the reverse..

Statements like this are stupid and uncalled for.. Keep them to yourself.. It would have better to have just said you voted for Anthony, because I'd like to see your reasoning as to how Jesse is unaccomplished..

[iaminsane20]

both are very good singers...but when it comes to songwriting, anthony wins.

[DanceJamesDance]

Un'Aria, this statement above is one of the reasons why Brand New fans, i.e myself, get angry..

How could this girl possibly say that Brand New, or for that matter, Jesse is not solid, unaccomplished, or a talented musician.. Sorry Tellie, but go check the sales records for Brand New and then look at Circa Survive.. You may be shocked that your statement is actually the reverse..

Statements like this are stupid and uncalled for.. Keep them to yourself.. It would have better to have just said you voted for Anthony, because I'd like to see your reasoning as to how Jesse is unaccomplished..

I think we have established that record sales doesn't mean a band is good. So you can't necassarily compare that. Just saying. I think BN is accomplished and talented but that just needed to be said.

[IATA4224]

I think we have established that record sales doesn't mean a band is good. So you can't necassarily compare that. Just saying. I think BN is accomplished and talented but that just needed to be said.

Record Sales don't.. How bout concert sales.. Brand New sells out 95% of their shows within the first day.. I think that says a lot about them as a band.. I love both of these bands, but it is a shame that people will sit there and make stupid remarks.. It's not physically possible to prove who is better.. All it shows is that 70 people prefer Jesse Lacey over Anthony green..

[Un'Aria Ancora]

See that is where you are wrong. I am a great fan of both and I don't think that Lacey would have done it even if he were asked. It was the brain-child of Rich Balling to begin with. Vocalist, yes. Lyricist, I cannot agree with. Green writes about absolute nonsense a great deal of the time. Remember again, I AM a huge fan of all of his stuff, but I can realize that.

that's cool, it just depends on what kind of lyrics you like. straight forward and to the point, lacey is awesome at that. green is great at writing about things in a different way that they've been written about before, i like that. i don't think it's nonsense...

[Un'Aria Ancora]

Thinking about it most of the songs on TDAG are not in 4/4 and even then it's not as though time signatures changes indicates good music or else we'd all listen to Pysopus and DEP.

I still fail to see how Circa make in any way complex music, it all seems very structured to me. Pop songs with too much obnoxious reverb and delay.

well, like i said, i'm judging based off of 6 or 7 songs from tdag, 4/4 def. and especially deja, but i never said it's makes them better, i just think that the way the drums, and each guitarist, and the vocals interact is amazing. i just don't get that with brand new. it's ok because like iata said, i get simple but honest music from them. i really don't think they are going for complex or the same sound as circa and that's why i like the instruments in circa more, that's all. and a lot of people would argue that circa isn't structured enough, whatever the case, i like it.

[IATA4224]

See that is where you are wrong. I am a great fan of both and I don't think that Lacey would have done it even if he were asked. It was the brain-child of Rich Balling to begin with. Vocalist, yes. Lyricist, I cannot agree with. Green writes about absolute nonsense a great deal of the time. Remember again, I AM a huge fan of all of his stuff, but I can realize that.

That's who it was Balling! I totally forgot.. Should shoulda just been called the Green Bandits!

[IATA4224]

Come on Circa isn't complex music. Listen to Tera Melos or Kayo Dot for something complex.

Or the Dillinger Escape Plan!

[Un'Aria Ancora]

Come on Circa isn't complex music. Listen to Tera Melos or Kayo Dot for something complex.

It's not tera melos-complex, it's not brand new-simple, i think it's perfect. you don't have to...

[IATA4224]

And then the 2nd CD theu could have gone by The Craig Green Days Bandits l0lz (Craig Owens, Ant Green, Days Away, RX Bandits).


lol.. soo true..

[nerdvglc]

jesse lacey is better, but it was really close...

[IATA4224]

Oh man I'm listening to Circa Survive and I LOVE IT. But oh can Jesse Lacey ever write a great song.;-)

Juturna>On Letting Go (first 5 songs are amazing, rest is kinda boring)

TDAGARISM>Deja Entendu>YFW

[Un'Aria Ancora]

But it isn't more complex than Brand New, time signatures and reverb are not everything. Brand New has more layering and more going on. More than just guitars and drums.

well that's all circa uses on the cd, 2 guitars, drums, and bass, i just think that they are all more talented at their instrument than brand new. brand new's music just seems bland to me, if jesse lacey was not writing and singing, would you listen to it? i know i would still listen to circa without green.

[IATA4224]

Yeah but even though Dillinger ar eocmplex in a time signature and instrumental sense they don't stray much from the two guitars, bass and drums style so i would argue that a band like Radiohead is more technical as they imcorporate a lot more styles into their music especially in the Amnesiac/Kid A era.

A band like Kayo Dot (http://www.myspace.com/kayodot) while not more technical than DEP uses a good 20 instruments per song and strays from doom metal to death metal to post rock to free jazz to mainstream rock to ambience across one song which to me is far more technically minded than Dillinger and certainly more so than Brand New and Circa Survive.

as far fetched as it may sound, the Dillinger Escape Plan does incorporate jazz into their music, but yes they have a tendencies to stay on the metal side of things

[IATA4224]

Yeah but it's more in jazz timings and grooves rather than jazz instrumentation.

I'm going to quiet down now.. You know tooooo much about music...

[Un'Aria Ancora]

If Jesse wasn't writing or singing there would no music and no band i don't get your point.

Exactly Circa only use four instruments and they aren't more talented or else they could write in different styles rather than just one. Either way neither band is anything special in terms of guitar playing nor do they profess to be.

I mean if he didn't have anything to do with the vocals, if they had a different singer, there would still be a band. it is pretty pointless to argue over 2 average bands when it comes to musicianship. thanks for the kayo dot music though, i'll probably have to get their cd now.

[DanceJamesDance]

I recommend the latest one "Dowsing Anenome With Copper Tongue" or "Choris of the Eve".

Whether i liekd them in that case would depend upon the singer himself. It's silly to make that point because Brand New is Jesee's lyrics and vocals. By your logic Bob Dylan is shitty because without his vocals anjd lyrics his music would be worthless.

Bob Dylan is and was terrible. Some people should just write music, not play it. His voice is God-awful.

[dubey]

Anthony Green. This should be a no-contest.

[Un'Aria Ancora]

I recommend the latest one "Dowsing Anenome With Copper Tongue" or "Choris of the Eve".

Whether i liekd them in that case would depend upon the singer himself. It's silly to make that point because Brand New is Jesee's lyrics and vocals. By your logic Bob Dylan is shitty because without his vocals anjd lyrics his music would be worthless.

no, i'm not saying lacey is shitty at all. but we were talking about the music, not the vocals. the band say anything, for example, would be nothing without bemis, but a band like saosin, is apparently able to change out singers and people still like the music... or treos, to use an example that i still support.

[dubey]

Someone with a Thursday avatar should be smarter than that.
It's my opinion I guess, almost everything Anthony has been part of just strikes a chord in me that Jesse Lacey can't. I'm a fan of Brand New and Circa Survive though, don't get me wrong.

[IATA4224]

Anthony Green. This should be a no-contest.


Well it looks like Jesse wins this one, no contest

[DanceJamesDance]

haha you fucking moron he is one of the most talented songwriters to have wrote popular music.

Ahhh pumpkin, there you go again opening your mouth before you read what I said. I said some people should stick to just songwriting. Bob Dylan is a GREAT songwriter, but that doesn't automatically make him have a good voice. Make sure you read something before you make an argument. (Oh ya way to use big words like F*ckin and moron, very intelligent)

[IATA4224]

haha you fucking moron he is one of the most talented songwriters to have wrote popular music.

I would agree.. Dylan writes great songs, but his voice is just, well not my favorite..

[Alex DiVincenzo]

Both have good voices but I'm not into Circa so I went with Jesse

[IATA4224]

I like his voice, it has that gritty sound. I don't want perfect pitch, i think that's the beauty of popular music, as opposed to classical.

Your absolutely right.. I just can't get past his voice..

[DanceJamesDance]

I like his voice, it has that gritty sound. I don't want perfect pitch, i think that's the beauty of popular music, as opposed to classical.

I guess that is why you like Bright Eyes too. Personally I can't stand Bright Eyes. Yes Conor can write great songs but I can't listen to his voice. On the other hand I think The Honorary Title guy (I don't know his name) has a great gritty voice but can control it and make it beautiful. I love voices with that tone and pitch but I prefer it to be controlled. Again, this is all about preference.

[M.C COB]

Yea, Anthony Green.

[grizbo]

Both are great. I like Green's voice more.

[Name_Taken]

both great. Anthony Green is better

[stacymichelle]

neither?

[stacymichelle]

or jesse lacey circa (no pun intended) 2003.

[iaminsane20]

Come on Circa isn't complex music. Listen to Tera Melos or Kayo Dot for something complex.
tera melos is complex, but also really good.

[bjk8787]

well that's all circa uses on the cd, 2 guitars, drums, and bass, i just think that they are all more talented at their instrument than brand new. brand new's music just seems bland to me, if jesse lacey was not writing and singing, would you listen to it? i know i would still listen to circa without green.


none of them are particularly talented at their instruments if they recorded a song with different people playing the instruments you would only notice green was gone



and some where before you said that green can comfortably sing in four octives....you are a completely wrong you obviously do not know what an octive is

[underthetalking]

or jesse lacey circa (no pun intended) 2003.

You are correct, ma'm.

[Un'Aria Ancora]

none of them are particularly talented at their instruments if they recorded a song with different people playing the instruments you would only notice green was gone



and some where before you said that green can comfortably sing in four octives....you are a completely wrong you obviously do not know what an octive is

same note, higher or lower, maybe comfortably was a stretch, he strains a lot and that's why i like him.

[IATA4224]

Dude.. Anthony Green is getting smacked up by Jesse.. Thought it would have been a little closer, but the better singer is actually winning..

[DanceJamesDance]

Dude.. Anthony Green is getting smacked up by Jesse.. Thought it would have been a little closer, but the better singer is actually winning..

I wouldn't say the better singer. I listened to BN the other day to freshin up on them and I realized how sketchy his voice actually is. IMO it is no contest Anthony has a better voice but at the same time is is no contest that Jesse writes better songs.

[stacymichelle]

You are correct, ma'm.


:-) why thank you.

[neal86]

jesse lacey all the way 1 of best lyricests ever!

[bjk8787]

i cant get past the fact that he thinks anthony green has a four octive voice when his voice sounds like a pre pubescent girl

[Tellie Norisco]

Un'Aria, this statement above is one of the reasons why Brand New fans, i.e myself, get angry..

How could this girl possibly say that Brand New, or for that matter, Jesse is not solid, unaccomplished, or a talented musician.. Sorry Tellie, but go check the sales records for Brand New and then look at Circa Survive.. You may be shocked that your statement is actually the reverse..

Statements like this are stupid and uncalled for.. Keep them to yourself.. It would have better to have just said you voted for Anthony, because I'd like to see your reasoning as to how Jesse is unaccomplished..Sigh...what I should have said is that Anthony is far more accomplished than Jesse. Record sales have nothing to do with talent. Not in the mood to argue, so how about we leave it at this: you like BN, I don't. You see something in them I apparently don't. The end.

[Yes. And?]

Jesse Lacey.

[Genuma]

It would have been hard if it was just singer. But Jesse writes much better songs.

[oldschooljedi]

I think Jesse Lacey beats out Anthony Green for many reasons, but I think the only non contentious one is consistency. Lacey has been with Brand New from the start and made them who they are today over the years and albums they've made. Can't say the same for Green. Sure, he's a name that will make a band...But not like Jesse and Brand New

[acornwe2]

Anthony Green has such an annoying voice, he sounds like a girl, and no matter how much I hear how great his music is, I just can't get over his voice, I don't know why. So I went with Jesse Lacey.

[DanceJamesDance]

I think Jesse Lacey beats out Anthony Green for many reasons, but I think the only non contentious one is consistency. Lacey has been with Brand New from the start and made them who they are today over the years and albums they've made. Can't say the same for Green. Sure, he's a name that will make a band...But not like Jesse and Brand New

At the same time though, Anthony may have been in a lot of bands that all were atleast decent. Circa, Saosin, and TSOAF were/are all good solid bands with, IMO, impressive albums/EP's.. Each with a style of their own. So you can't leave out his ability to adapt to different styles. Brand New's consistency is impressive though. Their albums keep getting better (TDAG is actually not as good as Deja but not by much).

[IATA4224]

At the same time though, Anthony may have been in a lot of bands that all were atleast decent. Circa, Saosin, and TSOAF were/are all good solid bands with, IMO, impressive albums/EP's.. Each with a style of their own. So you can't leave out his ability to adapt to different styles. Brand New's consistency is impressive though. Their albums keep getting better (TDAG is actually not as good as Deja but not by much).

I'd actually disagree with that statement because The Sound of Animals Fighting songs were written with Anthony Green in mind as the singer.. The album would have never happened if Anthony decided not to sing on it.. And the styles of the band and really not all that different.. In a funny way, The Sound of Animals Fighting is a combination of Circa Survive and Saosin..

[DanceJamesDance]

TDAG is vastly superior to Deja Entendu.

I'm sure most people would disagree with you there.

[DanceJamesDance]

Most people listen to mainstream hip hop and r&b, most people thought Sadamn Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. What most people think is completely worthless, that is if they even think at all.

I meant most people on this site and most people in the music seen. Also most people in general listen to country as opposed to hip-hop. Also rap and r&b sales are down while rock sales are going up. And for the record I think your opinion is worthless and until you stop being an annoying little prick I could care less what you say/think about me or the music scene.

[DanceJamesDance]

Oh noez the man who likes Circa Survive doesn't think i like good music.

Haha they you go again buddy. Read what I write before you argue again because nowhere in there did I say that you don't like good music. Hooked-on-phonics. Look it up and maybe I'll ship you it. Poor guy.

i actually don't like Circa all that much. Mainly cause there first cd didn't really do much for me. There second one is pretty good though.

[Chromefox]

I don't know if anyone pointed this out, but no. Anthony Green does NOT have four octaves like whoever said. Christina Aguilera has four octaves. She's in the Guinness Book of World Records for the largest range ever.

Please, know what you're saying before you say it. D=

PS: This is not a post for or against either party.

[DanceJamesDance]

I don't know if anyone pointed this out, but no. Anthony Green does NOT have four octaves like whoever said. Christina Aguilera has four octaves. She's in the Guinness Book of World Records for the largest range ever.

Please, know what you're saying before you say it. D=

PS: This is not a post for or against either party.

I'm prolly wrong (I don't really keep up with pop singers) but I thought Mariah Carey has the most range? Like I said I could be off by a mile.

[Chromefox]

I'm prolly wrong (I don't really keep up with pop singers) but I thought Mariah Carey has the most range? Like I said I could be off by a mile. Mariah Carey can hit the world's highest note, but Christina Aguilera has the world's greatest range.

[Chromefox]

I would of thought the most range would be some opera singer? Futz, now I'm trying to research my own facts, but most of what's on the internet isn't true...

Anyways, regardless of whether Christina Aguilera holds the record, Green doesn't have four octaves.

[DanceJamesDance]

Futz, now I'm trying to research my own facts, but most of what's on the internet isn't true...

Anyways, regardless of whether Christina Aguilera holds the record, Green doesn't have four octaves.

Ok thanks for clearing that up for me!

[Chromefox]

I've got three octaves, and that varies from a low kind of boom to a high pitched squeal. A piano (if I remember correctly) only has five octaves on it, and if you've ever compared the top key to the bottom, you know the huge difference there. Cristina Aguilera has four octaves, and with the searching I'm doing, I'm not sure if she's the record holder. Mariah Carey still hit the highest note ever, this I know fo' sho, at the Superbowl during Emotions.

Out of the kids who tried out for acapella choir in my senior year, two had a three octave range, and that even impressed the professor, who'd met very few people with that kind of range before. It's not a common thing.

Anyways, the point here is that Anthony Green doesn't have four octaves, and if he does, he's never once shown it.

[IATA4224]

I meant most people on this site and most people in the music seen. Also most people in general listen to country as opposed to hip-hop. Also rap and r&b sales are down while rock sales are going up. And for the record I think your opinion is worthless and until you stop being an annoying little prick I could care less what you say/think about me or the music scene.

The majority of America also watches and closely follows what happens on American Idol, so to that extent, what the majority of people listen to is completely Trivial.. Look at how the bands on the radio, for the most part, dominate record sales.. And the reason that is even relevant is due to the fact that those bands who are selling the most are shoved down mainstream America's throat..

Rock Sales may be going up, but look at what bands record sales are going up.. Velvet Revolver? Bon Jovi? And still rap and hip-hop have a huge following, regardless if record sales are down..

Personally, I like Jesse better.. His songs move me more than how Anthony's do, but Anthony still writes great songs.. It's unfair to even compare the two because they are different, very different.. Who has a better voice? Well thats for the listener to decide..

[DanceJamesDance]

The majority of America also watches and closely follows what happens on American Idol, so to that extent, what the majority of people listen to is completely Trivial.. Look at how the bands on the radio, for the most part, dominate record sales.. And the reason that is even relevant is due to the fact that those bands who are selling the most are shoved down mainstream America's throat..

Rock Sales may be going up, but look at what bands record sales are going up.. Velvet Revolver? Bon Jovi? And still rap and hip-hop have a huge following, regardless if record sales are down..

Personally, I like Jesse better.. His songs move me more than how Anthony's do, but Anthony still writes great songs.. It's unfair to even compare the two because they are different, very different.. Who has a better voice? Well thats for the listener to decide..

I was just refuting the statement about hip-hop and rap. i realize the majority of Americans follow dumb tv shows and crappy music but it is not my place to decide what they should or should not listen to. Also as far as the rock cds sales go yes it is crappy bands like Bon Jovi and Velvet but I have also personally noticed that a lot of the indie/underground bands are getting a lot more recognition and a larger following. Maybe that is just around me and people I know though.

Also, why is Trivial capitalized? Does that mean something or just a typo?

[IATA4224]

I was just refuting the statement about hip-hop and rap. i realize the majority of Americans follow dumb tv shows and crappy music but it is not my place to decide what they should or should not listen to. Also as far as the rock cds sales go yes it is crappy bands like Bon Jovi and Velvet but I have also personally noticed that a lot of the indie/underground bands are getting a lot more recognition and a larger following. Maybe that is just around me and people I know though.

Also, why is Trivial capitalized? Does that mean something or just a typo?

I hit shift on accident..

[bjk8787]

I'm sure most people would disagree with you there.


no almost every brand new fan i know likes the latest cd more....and on just about everything you've been arguing about lunchforthesky has been right and you've been wrong

[Chromefox]

The general consensus I've seen is that Deja is the preferred Brand New album, actually.

Why don't you make a poll about it? =O

[DanceJamesDance]

The general consensus I've seen is that Deja is the preferred Brand New album, actually.

Why don't you make a poll about it? =O

That is what I have seen also.

[meliisssaaaa]

jesse lacey. because sometimes i get tired of anothony's voice, i can only handle it for so long- and i can listen to jesse's for a long, long time. but anyway.. i hear they're both assholes...

[pgm8705]

Sent out the s.o.s. Call.
It was a quarter past four in the morning
When the storm broke our second anchor line.
Four months at sea, four months of calm seas to be pounded
In the shallows off the tip of Montauk Point.
They call them rogues; they travel fast and alone--
one-hundred-foot faces of God's good ocean gone wrong.
What they call love is a risk, to always get hit out of nowhere
By some wave and end up on your own.
A hole in the hull defied the crew's attempts, to bail us out.
It flooded the engine and radio, half-buried bow.
Your tongue is a rudder.
It steers the whole ship, sends your words past your lips,
Or keeps them safe behind your teeth.
But the wrong words will strand you, come off-course while you sleep,
Sweep your boat out to sea or dashed to bits on the reef.
The vessel groans; the ocean pressures its frame.
To the port I see the lighthouse through the sleet and the rain.
And I wish for one more day to give my love and repay debts,
But the morning finds our bodies washed up thirty miles west.
They say that the captain stays fast with the ship through still and storm.
But this ain't the Dakota; the water's cold. (So cold.)
Won’t have to fight for long.
This is the end.
This story's old, but it goes on and on until we disappear.
Calm me and let me taste the salt you breathed while you were underneath.
I am the one who haunts your dreams of mountains sunk below the sea.
I spoke the words but never gave a thought to what they all could mean.
I know that this (rest in the deep) is what you want.
A funeral keeps both of us apart.
You know that you are not alone.
I need you like water in my lungs.
This is the end.



that says it all for me as far as songwriting skills... as for voice, yeah anthonys voice is pretty good, but its just a novelty



jesse hands down.

[The Stiletto]

Anthony Green is far superior. Everyone needs to get off of Brand New's cock. Face it, they aren't that great.
I couldn't agree more! Way overrrated!

[konvalbr]

Jesse Lacey by a long long way, he is a vastly supeior song writer, he writes some of the best lyrics is modern music and unlike Green actually has some range in his voice. I'm very happy he will win this very easilly.

have you ever listened to Anthony Green? What got me into his music WAS his range, not lack thereof. jesse may be a great songwriter but give me a choice of anthony or jesse and i pick anthony by a looooong shot.

[IATA4224]

Are you aware what range is?

No they aren't.. They just haven't realized he sings like that all of the time..

[fearthesloths]

jesse lacey. because sometimes i get tired of anothony's voice, i can only handle it for so long- and i can listen to jesse's for a long, long time. but anyway.. i hear they're both assholes...

I have met both Anthony and Jesse. I went to late night dinner with all of Circa one time a couple of years ago in Buffalo... while Anthony was pretty weird and slightly off-putting... he was in no way an asshole and was a really really nice guy, just a little strange. From what i've seen of Jesse and from the semi-brief period i've spent talking to him.. he wasn't an asshole at all... he is very quiet and keeps to himself a lot though... which a lot of people sometimes take as a person being an asshole. I don't know where these kind of rumours come from, but from my personal experience with both guys, neither are assholes.

Personally overall I think Jesse is far superior, although Ant is still a very talented singer and lyricist.

Side Note: To the dude that said Anthony doesn't talk how he sings... trust me i have spent a few hours around the dude in a casual setting... and he most definitely has a very high talking voice.

[sunn23]

how can you even compare the two. no contest, anthony green. jesse lacey is over rated.

[IATA4224]

how can you even compare the two. no contest, anthony green. jesse lacey is over rated.


i guess the 210 people that voted believe that Jesse is over rated as well..

Jesse this, Jesse that..

Plain and simple.. He can sing and write songs.. And well Brand New is most likely better than your favorite band

[IATA4224]

That is what I have seen also.

Yes, that may be true, but The Devil and God is a better album.. Hands down..

They both made their mark.. Each is great, but the devil has my vote

[elvis2x]

Well, considering Anthony Green has no talent, Jesse wins by default.

[Empty hearts187]

i picked anthony green.
not because hes a better writer or singer.
it's because he's not an asshole like jesse

[GiggsOho]

this is dumbest arguement I think I have read on this site. Next we are going to argue what color is better, purple or black.

[Anthony Lutz]

Jesse Lacey... Anthony Green is amazing, but nowhere near the level that Jesse Lacey is.

[Kid Defender]

Anthony Green for sure. Jesse Lacey's voice is so horribly boring it is ridiculous.

[DanceJamesDance]

His is not boring, it's fine not liking it but it is not at all boring.

He doesn't like him because he thinks he is boring. And yes, his vocals are kinda bland.

[DanceJamesDance]

It isn't bland at all, that would imply he sounds like plenty other guys which he does not at all.

It implies that his voice isn't anything special.

[IATA4224]

It implies that his voice isn't anything special.

This has been an ongoing thing between you two for the last 2 weeks.. Obviously a poll doesn't matter because a person's opinion matters most, but 270 people don't believe that Anthony Green is better than Jesse Lacey.. It may be that people are biased or whatever, but Jesse Lacey is honestly not following any trend...

Sure he may not be doing anything.. He may not sing like Craig Owens or Anthony Green, but Lacey's voice is the only fit for Brand New.. Could you picture someone else fronting Morrissey or the Cure (no, I'm not comparing Brand New to either)?

[halifaxonfire]

It isn't bland at all, that would imply he sounds like plenty other guys which he does not at all.

bland might not be the right word. dull describes it pretty well i think.

[emerypearl]

both.

[DanceJamesDance]

This has been an ongoing thing between you two for the last 2 weeks.. Obviously a poll doesn't matter because a person's opinion matters most, but 270 people don't believe that Anthony Green is better than Jesse Lacey.. It may be that people are biased or whatever, but Jesse Lacey is honestly not following any trend...

Sure he may not be doing anything.. He may not sing like Craig Owens or Anthony Green, but Lacey's voice is the only fit for Brand New.. Could you picture someone else fronting Morrissey or the Cure (no, I'm not comparing Brand New to either)?

I was just defending someone elses previous argument about how Jesse voice is boring. Nobody said his voice doesn't fit BN, it is just meh. Im not arguing for one or the other just stating that the kid can have his own opinion but like Lunch always does, he pounces on people for having their on thoughts or preferences. Pounce away Mufasa!

[IATA4224]

I was just defending someone elses previous argument about how Jesse voice is boring. Nobody said his voice doesn't fit BN, it is just meh. Im not arguing for one or the other just stating that the kid can have his own opinion but like Lunch always does, he pounces on people for having their on thoughts or preferences. Pounce away Mufasa!


But my point is that, while yes, Jesse may have a "dull" voice, but it is the most extraordinary dull voice I've ever heard.. It's not dull.. It's versatile, but because he sings in such what I wanna say a dark and dreary typed theme, that the way his voice is intended to sound.. On the contrary to Jesse, Ant has sounded the way he has in every band that he has ever played with.. Except for Jeer at Rome, but I don't even really consider that anything.. Both of these guys are great singers and songwriters, they are just completely different.

[bjk8787]

emo kids suck

[SenorGoat]

Both are very good. I went with Anthony but i love Jesse too

[SeanEBoy2686]

alot of brand new fans are like alot of ohio state fans... you dont like their band (team) they freak out b/c thats unacceptable

i went with jesse lacey... both have great voices but lacey has penned three solid albums to green's one extremely solid album (on letting go) and one pretty good album (juturna). that would make the score 3-2. if it were on voice alone then it'd be anthony green hands down.

[phil19]

jesse lacey. im not really into anything anthony greens done since saosin

[tonighttonight0]

Anthony Green

[JunkBondTrader]

jesse lacey is the better songwriter. its really not even close. im extremely unbiased. trust me. anthony green is pretty horrid.

anthony green technically has the better singing chops. but jesse is more appealing to the ear to me. and jesse trumps anthony green as a songwriter in every aspect.

the only thing annoying about these polls is that a majority of people in these threads probably feel that these 2 are tuly great songwriters.....when neither of them would crack the top lets sayyyy 1000 of all time. they are good for the type of music they play. in the scheme of things they are both just spits in the ocean.

[Machu505]

Jesse.

[gabrielM]

no competition.

[fightinirish217]

Anthony Green

[IceAge/HeatWave]

neither are that great. anthony green's vocals annoy the shit out of me on every record except avalon. jessae lacey is slightly above average, but insanely overrated. although, i must say i'm very excited for AOHCND.


edit;;; i must say, i am very excited for daisy

[sheisthewest]

JTL
by a landslide.

[texasisbrendan]

anthony green by a longshot

[seraph1214]

Jesse Lacey by a large margin. I enjoy Anthony Green but he is no where near the songwriter that Lacey is. Anthony has better range though.

[Burn_Burn_Burn]

on songwriting: Anthony Green SOLO is pretty bad, but insane catchy. circa is fantastic. jesse lacey / brand new songwriting is some of my favorite, but on a totally different plane from anthony and circa.

on singing: by far anthony beats him out. junk bond trader said it best:

anthony green technically has the better singing chops. but jesse is more appealing to the ear to me. and jesse trumps anthony green as a songwriter in every aspect.

/pwned.

[Theseventhson]

Jesse.

[mike'smannequin]

tie

[HoldThatSound]

Anthony.

[IceAge/HeatWave]

jesse, because i'm excited about where this daisy thing is going. circa isn't very good.

[PaRaMoReROX]

Anthony Green. In my opinion, he has a better voice, writes better lyrics, and is just overall more talented than Jesse. He has also released far more material and has experimented in many genres of music. It's no contest for me.

[griffinknight91]

This debate needs to be revived. Such a tough question

[PengusNiugnep]

I went with Anthony Green.

[mike'smannequin]

lacey

[eriatarka24]

jesse, because i'm excited about where this daisy thing is going. circa isn't very good.

i know this was two years ago....but fuck you.

[eriatarka24]

I went with Anthony Green.

why was this bumped, i need to go cut myself now :bluesad:

[Theseventhson]

They're both shitty lyricists in overrated bands.

[PengusNiugnep]

why was this bumped, i need to go cut myself now :bluesad:
I blame griffinknight91. D; But Anthony should definitely be winning. (Unless I'm missing something else here...)

[IceAge/HeatWave]

i know this was two years ago....but fuck you.

circa has a few good songs. but not much of an AG fan. his solo stuff is his best stuff.

[liveloud4life]

Jesse is one of the best lyricists/songwriters around with a pretty good voice that fits his bands sound perfectly.
Anthony is a total douche, is ok at writing one very specific sound, and has a really annoying voice that from an technical, objective view is terrible.

[PunksNotDead!]

Jesse is my favorite vocalist ever and Anthony is a close second but i didnt even have to think about it