View Full Version : Brady Quinn Agrees to Five Year Deal
myplasticyou
08/07/07, 12:13 PM
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/CLE/10284716
So Quinn finally agreed to a contract, but does anyone else think he won't live up to expectations?
still life
08/07/07, 12:39 PM
Either Russell or Quinn will bust. It's not likely both will bust or succeed, but that could be a possibility too.
I think Quinn could be semi succesful. I'm not expecting too much from him, but I think he can do better than some of the clown the Browns have had at QB in recent years.
thatsignant
08/07/07, 12:56 PM
Well if LSU's defense could make him look like he has no clue what is going on I can't wait to see him in the NFL
Broken Parachute
08/07/07, 01:04 PM
I'm going to laugh if he turns out to be great, even though I'm not optimistic.
still life
08/07/07, 01:34 PM
He doesn't have great accuracy, and he won't have Charlie Weis there to babysit him. Charlie Weis does wonders for offenses.
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/CLE/10284716
So Quinn finally agreed to a contract, but does anyone else think he won't live up to expectations?
Who wouldn't think that? He plays for Cleveland.
Broken Parachute
08/07/07, 01:52 PM
Even if the talent is there, the team isn't..so..
I'm not comparing Quinn to Kobe because they're not even simliar but Quinn on the Browns is similar to Kobe on the Lakers. They're surrounded by fools that provide no help.
still life
08/07/07, 02:06 PM
You can not be serious. This isn't Tim Couch going to the expansion Browns.
Quinn has #3 overall pick Braylon Edwards at WR, #6 overall pick Kellen Winslow Jr. at TE, a reliable WR in Joe Jurevicius, a former rushing champion in Jamal Lewis, the best LT prospect in the draft protecting his blind side in Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach at LG, and they're trying to get LeCharles Bentley healthy for center. And that's just his offense. Defensively they have a lot of solid players like Sean Jones, Kamerion Wimbley, Andra Davis, Ted Washington, McGinest, etc.
Don't even try comparing that to some former Browns teams.
Broken Parachute
08/07/07, 02:10 PM
You can not be serious. This isn't Tim Couch going to the expansion Browns.
Quinn has #3 overall pick Braylon Edwards at WR, #6 overall pick Kellen Winslow Jr. at TE, a reliable WR in Joe Jurevicius, a former rushing champion in Jamal Lewis, the best LT prospect in the draft protecting his blind side in Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach at LG, and they're trying to get LeCharles Bentley healthy for center. And that's just his offense. Defensively they have a lot of solid players like Sean Jones, Kamerion Wimbley, Andra Davis, Ted Washington, McGinest, etc.
Don't even try comparing that to some former Browns teams.So..you're saying they'll be a winning team this year?
they won't win more than 6 games IMO
Broken Parachute
08/07/07, 02:12 PM
I can't see the Browns winning more than 6 games, and that's being generous. Even if they did bring in Lewis, Thomas, and Steinbach they were 4-12 last year. They won't just do a complete 180. Plus Quinn could and might turn out to be a bust. With that looming over their head, they just don't strike me as a good team.
So..you're saying they'll be a winning team this year?
who knew John Kitna was on ap.net
still life
08/07/07, 02:14 PM
So..you're saying they'll be a winning team this year?
No, but there's enough there to not be terrible.
imirish06
08/07/07, 02:17 PM
A lot of amazing QBS have rough first years too.... but we won't hear about that should Quinn have a rough season this year.
still life
08/07/07, 02:20 PM
Cleveland was 4-12 last year, but poor 4th quarter execution (especially at the QB position) is the difference between 4-12 and at least 8-8.
I don't think Quinn will have a good rookie year, and I think that will be a big factor in keeping them in the 4 win range. There's enough talent on the team to be .500 in a tough conference, but they don't have any experience at QB.
Cleveland will be lucky to win 1 Division game against Cincy, Pittsburgh and Baltimore.
I'm not comparing Quinn to Kobe because they're not even simliar but Quinn on the Browns is similar to Kobe on the Lakers. They're surrounded by fools that provide no help.
You can not be serious. This isn't Tim Couch going to the expansion Browns.
Quinn has #3 overall pick Braylon Edwards at WR, #6 overall pick Kellen Winslow Jr. at TE, a reliable WR in Joe Jurevicius, a former rushing champion in Jamal Lewis, the best LT prospect in the draft protecting his blind side in Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach at LG, and they're trying to get LeCharles Bentley healthy for center. And that's just his offense. Defensively they have a lot of solid players like Sean Jones, Kamerion Wimbley, Andra Davis, Ted Washington, McGinest, etc.
Don't even try comparing that to some former Browns teams.
Thank you for saying it so I don't have to.
So..you're saying they'll be a winning team this year?
Our schedule is not that difficult. I'm hoping for .500
I'm not saying they're going to turn it around in one season but saying there's no talent is silly.
IMO you'll go 1-5 in division. you'll catch one of the teams on an off day and you'll get a W. For you to go .500 you're gonna have to go 7-3 in those other games and honestly i can't see that happening. You have one at New England that I put as a loss. Then you play teams like Seattle, St. Louis, Miami, New York Jets and San Francisco who IMO are better than the Browns. You may not have the toughest schedule but you still play quality teams. Sure you play your Raiders and Texans but they could very well beat you. I say 5-12 season by the Browns and VERY lucky to get 7 wins. .500 is out of the question, very optimistic.
Broken Parachute
08/07/07, 02:40 PM
A lot of amazing QBS have rough first years too.... but we won't hear about that should Quinn have a rough season this year.Sadly enough the media will be all over him.
I don't think Quinn will have a good rookie year, and I think that will be a big factor in keeping them in the 4 win range.The whole season rests on his shoulders, even more than a normal QB, because the pressure is there.
Our schedule is not that difficult. I'm hoping for .500
I'm not saying they're going to turn it around in one season but saying there's no talent is silly.Who said there was no talent? I said "Even if the talent is there, the team isn't..." meaning that it doesn't matter if there is talent, they have to show the talent and actually play well. It's like the Arizona Diamondbacks. They have had so much talent it's scary, but they just turned it on this year and got better. I can't see Cleveland just turning it around all together..it'll take a few years.
LeftWideOpen
08/07/07, 02:44 PM
A lot of amazing QBS have rough first years too.... but we won't hear about that should Quinn have a rough season this year.
oh god, preseason hasnt even started for and we already have the brady quinn apologists. ;-)
i really think quinn epitomizes everything bad about ND, but he's not a bum. I dont think he'll ever be a guy to build a team around and I dont think he'll have a long career starting in the league (by long, i'm talking like > 7 or 8 years), but he'll eventually beat out Charlie Frye and Derek Anderson. I mean, there is a reason Cleveland drafted a QB ..they need one badly. I think he'll be the starter by Week 10, stink it up for the most part because he's a rookie, and Cleveland will once again be picking in the Top 5 next year. But it wont be his fault.
preppyak
08/07/07, 03:09 PM
Well, I doubt we find out if he is a bust until well into the season...the starting job is going to one of the other two.
"Quinn's absence has ensured he will not win the Browns' starting job, which has become a two-man fight between Derek Anderson (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/405598) and Charlie Frye (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/552508)."
That said, I was hoping Quinn would hold out a bit longer so we could get Romeo Cronell to do his best Dennis Green impression
still life
08/07/07, 06:19 PM
I say 5-12 season by the Browns and VERY lucky to get 7 wins. .500 is out of the question, very optimistic.
Am I the only one that caught this?
Man, I can't believe the Browns are going to make the playoffs with a 5-11 record and get crushed the first playoff game. What has happened to the AFC?
guywithstik
08/07/07, 06:28 PM
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/CLE/10284716
So Quinn finally agreed to a contract, but does anyone else think he won't live up to expectations?
What expectations? He slid to the 22nd pick, and if it wasn't for the Browns trading up he might not have been taken until the beginning of the 2nd round. The expectation is that he's severely overrated, so if he fails, he will be living up to expectations. Dropping to the 22nd pick is probably the best thing that ever happened to him, it'll put a chip on his shoulder and give him something to prove as he's getting sacked 70 times behind a porous offensive line.
I think having Charlie Weis as a head coach is actually a plus, since I would imagine he's groomed him better than most college coaches will have done with others. I wouldn't count the Browns out either, because there's always one or two teams that surprise and put up decent seasons. Salary caps and everything else mean parity and that means a team like the Browns could surprise... or go 4-12.
Broken Parachute
08/07/07, 06:35 PM
Am I the only one that caught this?
Man, I can't believe the Browns are going to make the playoffs with a 5-11 record and get crushed the first playoff game. What has happened to the AFC?Hahahahahahaha.
still life
08/07/07, 06:35 PM
The expectations of a high 2nd round QB are still pretty high.
The Browns have had one winning season in the last 9 years. I don't think they're going to surprise anyone.
Trivia question: who's the last player Cleveland drafted that made the Pro Bowl?
LeftWideOpen
08/07/07, 06:44 PM
if you dont count Faine as an alternate, I want to say Eric Turner?
still life
08/07/07, 06:47 PM
Looking at the Pro Football Encyclopedia, I don't see Faine listed, so no to him.
Eric Turner it is, and he was drafted way back in 1991. He, along with 4 other drafted Cleveland players made the PB in 1994.
rosematter
08/08/07, 07:21 AM
You can not be serious. This isn't Tim Couch going to the expansion Browns.
Quinn has #3 overall pick Braylon Edwards at WR, #6 overall pick Kellen Winslow Jr. at TE, a reliable WR in Joe Jurevicius, a former rushing champion in Jamal Lewis, the best LT prospect in the draft protecting his blind side in Joe Thomas, Eric Steinbach at LG, and they're trying to get LeCharles Bentley healthy for center. And that's just his offense. Defensively they have a lot of solid players like Sean Jones, Kamerion Wimbley, Andra Davis, Ted Washington, McGinest, etc.
Don't even try comparing that to some former Browns teams.
Quinn won't be throwing those guys the ball though, Derek or Frye will be to start, and that's not going to go very well I don't think. Plus, historically most rookie QB's struggle greatly in their first season. All the weapons in the world won't change that. I think the Browns have some nice building blocks in place, but to win any more than 4-5 games this season as they struggle to find their QB of the future.
rosematter
08/08/07, 07:36 AM
Well, I doubt we find out if he is a bust until well into the season...the starting job is going to one of the other two.
"Quinn's absence has ensured he will not win the Browns' starting job, which has become a two-man fight between Derek Anderson (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/405598) and Charlie Frye (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/552508)."
That said, I was hoping Quinn would hold out a bit longer so we could get Romeo Cronell to do his best Dennis Green impression
You can't tell if he's going to be a bust after one season, even if he plays all 16 games. Alex Smith was absolutely horrible in his first season playing, and he's improved vastly since then. Sometimes it will take a couple of years to make a true determination.
I doubt Quinn will be a total bust simply because he was a 4-year starter in a pro-style offense and had success. For a rookie QB he has about as much experience as you can get, and he's performed up to this point. I don't know if he's the next Peyton or Brady, but I seriously doubt he's Ryan Leaf or Akili Smith.
helpme364
08/08/07, 09:39 AM
I dont think he will be a bust. Nobody usually is in their first year. Id like if he sat this year and came in next year like Carson Palmer did.
Id like to have D.Anderson start then have Quinn back him up. I fucking hate Charlie Frye. He is so overrated here in Cleveland just because he is from Northeastern Ohio.
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