N-Word, Rap Debate

[RedWineSheets]

I do not know if this discussion has been done before but, I just saw a segment on tv about this debate so I thought we should have it here as well. What are everyones view on Rappers or Blacks in general using the N-word?

Is it their right to say it? "We can say it but nobody else can?"

Should artists be able to use it in rap lyrics?

Does the word perpetuate racism in our culture or is it just a "slang" term for brother/friend?

Is it right for Al Sharpton to call on the African American and Rap Communities alike to end the use of the derogatory term?

First Amendment: Should everyone be able to say whatever they want, wherever they want know matter the cost to a given culture?

Add what other comments you think are helpful.

[RedWineSheets]

I guess everyone is in class :shrug:

[Buried A Lie]

I think you should be able to use it if you want, due to freedom of speech. I don't agree with the use of it or think it is right. I think it is risky using racial slurs in general, because eventually you are going to offend somebody. If you are going to use the word "*****," or such, I don't think you should pick or choose who can use it. You can usually tell the difference between some kid saying "What up *****?" and a bigot using the word "******," intentionally to degrade someone.

[tambam]

I don't think anyone should be saying it under any circumstances. I've never understood why some black people choose to keep that word alive, as they are referring to each other in the same way that all of the ignorant white people used to refer to them (and some still do, unfortunately) all of those years ago. I don't understand why some rappers feel it necissary to constantly bring that word up, and in turn, bring down their own race. Nobody should be using it.

[RedWineSheets]

I don't think anyone should be saying it under any circumstances. I've never understood why some black people choose to keep that word alive, as they are referring to each other in the same way that all of the ignorant white people used to refer to them (and some still do, unfortunately) all of those years ago. I don't understand why some rappers feel it necissary to constantly bring that word up, and in turn, bring down their own race. Nobody should be using it.

Trust me the term is still alive here in the South. Which is one of the many reasons why I can't wait to move away when my education is complete.

[tambam]

Trust me the term is still alive here in the South. Which is one of the many reasons why I can't wait to move away when my education is complete.

Yeah, the South is horrible for that. I'd never want to go there. It's probably one of the most narrow-minded places on the continent.

[captainhampton]

Yeah, the South is horrible for that. I'd never want to go there. It's probably one of the most narrow-minded places on the continent.

yeah i'd never want to go to a place where people are more friendly, polite, and well mannered. I'll just sit in another country and stereotype the people in the south as racists. that's cool.

[Love As Arson]

The word doesn't perpetuate racism, the institutions within our society do. This is why I believe the efforts of groups to ban it misses the point; that is, first we must question why this word retains power? They retain power because the civil rights movement was absorbed by the system, and the party that benefited enacts policies which are regressive, the lack of economic opportunities in black communities, police brutality, things like Hurricane Katrina, etc. The word is merely a manifestation of this, so I would argue that there should be a focus upon the material problems. Further, being able to say "*****" is more reliant upon class than it is race. That is to say, white kids that live within the black community say it with little problem, because they are a part of the atmosphere. If, however, a white kid from the suburbs were to say it, then there is a problem.

[Buried A Lie]

yeah i'd never want to go to a place where people are more friendly, polite, and well mannered. I'll just sit in another country and stereotype the people in the south as racists. that's cool.

Yea, as much as you want to believe she was saying that, you know that is not what she meant. Why do people start shit for the sake of argument all the time? I don't know where you are getting the idea the entire South and everyone in it is friendly and well-mannered either, have you ever been to Ontario?

Btw, it would probably be pretty accurate saying it is one of the most narrow-minded places on this continent. This doesn't mean everyone who lives there is.

[tambam]

yeah i'd never want to go to a place where people are more friendly, polite, and well mannered. I'll just sit in another country and stereotype the people in the south as racists. that's cool.

How do you know they're more friendly, polite, and well mannered? I didn't say they were all racists, I said as a whole, it's probably one of the most narrow-minded places on the continent. I know enough about the South to know that. But I did not say ever single person there was narrow-minded. Don't put words in my mouth, thanks.

[captainhampton]

Yea, as much as you want to believe she was saying that, you know that is not what she meant. Why do people start shit for the sake of argument all the time? I don't know where you are getting the idea the entire South and everyone in it is friendly and well-mannered either, have you ever been to Ontario?

because the south is a great place to visit. the lifestyle is really different down there and no not everyone is friendly, but most are. as with most places in America there are problems with racism and yes in the south there are plenty who still think it is pre-civil war era. but these people do not represent the people of the south. no i have not been to ontario or lived there, which is why i don't make ignorant comments about it.

[chronomic]

i cant stand when black people call eachother house******s. im not even black and i feel its unfair.



i also hear crab****** a lot in rap music...i dont know what it means but its prolly not good.

[captainhampton]

I know enough about the South to know that. But I did not say ever single person there was narrow-minded.

where have you been in the south?

[Drew Beringer]

Sometimes when I'm singing along with my hip hop albums I say the N word, is that wrong? DOM TELL ME!

[tambam]

where have you been in the south?

I don't have to be there to know that there is a lot of racism in the South. The person that started this thread just said that the 'n' word is alive and kicking down there. I hardly hear it living up here.

And you just said that there are a lot of people who still think that they live in a pre-civil war era. Why wouldn't they represent the South? I mean, they live there don't they?

[chronomic]

Sometimes when I'm singing along with my hip hop albums I say the N word, is that wrong? DOM TELL ME!

scrubs reference?

[Buried A Lie]

because the south is a great place to visit. the lifestyle is really different down there and no not everyone is friendly, but most are. as with most places in America there are problems with racism and yes in the south there are plenty who still think it is pre-civil war era. but these people do not represent the people of the south. no i have not been to ontario or lived there, which is why i don't make ignorant comments about it.

I'm sure there are plenty of good people in the south, but you can't ignore that it has a lot of narrow-minded individuals living there. I just think you took it a little too personal and came out swinging for no reason. :shrug:

[Buried A Lie]

scrubs reference?


Yes, haha.

[Drew Beringer]

scrubs reference?
haha it is! That was so unintentional.

[chronomic]

excellent, haha

[captainhampton]

I don't have to be there to know that there is a lot of racism in the South. The person that started this thread just said that the 'n' word is alive and kicking down there. I hardly hear it living up here.

And you just said that there are a lot of people who still think that they live in a pre-civil war era. Why wouldn't they represent the South? I mean, they live there don't they?

obviously you don't know jack about the south or the people there. i'm not going to continue this argument with someone who hasn't even been there.

these people who are still stuck in the pre civil war era do not represent the majority, so NO it is not fair to represent the people of the south as narrow minded.

[tambam]

obviously you don't know jack about the south or the people there. i'm not going to continue this argument with someone who hasn't even been there.

these people who are still stuck in the pre civil war era do not represent the majority, so NO it is not fair to represent the people of the south as narrow minded.

I think I know a lot more than 'jack'. But great, thanks. I didn't really want to waste my time arguing with someone like you anyways.

[captainhampton]

I'm sure there are plenty of good people in the south, but you can't ignore that it has a lot of narrow-minded individuals living there. I just think you took it a little too personal and came out swinging for no reason. :shrug:

eh there's been hating on the south for awhile on these boards. and i agree with you that there are narrow minded people there, but i think it is unfair to characterize the people as a whole there as narrow minded.

[captainhampton]

I think I know a lot more than 'jack'. But great, thanks. I didn't really want to waste my time arguing with someone like you anyways.

prove it, tell me how you know about people in the south. what did you read about it in the newspaper once. tell me about Georgia or South Carolina? tell me about the traditions in the south, and how many racists from the south you know personally. cmon enlighten us.

[Shatter590]

NYC to North Carolina was one hell of a culture shock for me. Where I live, the air is either liberal or moderate, pro choice, pro gay rights, largely agnostic, largely tolerant of race.

After spending a month in NC, it was like an overload- the exact opposite of what i was used to. perhaps it was because it was a "mountain town" or maybe because of my familiar standard of living, but the people their irked me. I got called out a few times for not being religious, for not supporting conservatives (the liberal bashing TV commercials just blew my mind), for not laughing at the "dumb n-word" jokes...i know not all of the south is like this, especially from the times ive been in Atlanta, but it scared me. I really thought most of this was a stereotype until i saw it...

[Love As Arson]

Sometimes when I'm singing along with my hip hop albums I say the N word, is that wrong? DOM TELL ME!
Yes, and you must go to confession.

There was a recent poll regarding interracial marriage in a southern state, which I believe was Mississippi, and the majority of the people in the state were against it.

[chronomic]

NYC to North Carolina was one hell of a culture shock for me. Where I live, the air is either liberal or moderate, pro choice, pro gay rights, largely agnostic, largely tolerant of race.

After spending a month in NC, it was like an overload- the exact opposite of what i was used to. perhaps it was because it was a "mountain town" or maybe because of my familiar standard of living, but the people their irked me. I got called out a few times for not being religious, for not supporting conservatives (the liberal bashing TV commercials just blew my mind), for not laughing at the "dumb n-word" jokes...i know not all of the south is like this, especially from the times ive been in Atlanta, but it scared me. I really thought most of this was a stereotype until i saw it...

its wierd aint it? what ive found is that basically all the major cities and towns are just like the ones north or even west...but when you hit country-land...wow, it can get real strange.

[Shatter590]

its wierd aint it? what ive found is that basically all the major cities and towns are just like the ones north or even west...but when you hit country-land...wow, it can get real strange.

i was staying in Cherokee and Sylva, and it was sorta weird. Asheville, however, was just like most of NY for the most part. So was Raliegh and Chapel Hill.

[chronomic]

i was staying in Cherokee and Sylva, and it was sorta weird. Asheville, however, was just like most of NY for the most part. So was Raliegh and Chapel Hill.

makes sense. when i was in bumblefuck texas it got creepy at times.

[tambam]

prove it, tell me how you know about people in the south. what did you read about it in the newspaper once. tell me about Georgia or South Carolina? tell me about the traditions in the south, and how many racists from the south you know personally. cmon enlighten us.

I do know that the larger KKK organizations presently take place in the South, and that there is more intolerance towards homosexuals in the South due to the Bible Belt. It's not rocket science. I didn't mean to say that all of the people in the South are narrow-minded, but a lot of narrow-minded organizations and thoughts are more frequent in the South.

[captainhampton]

I do know that the larger KKK organizations presently take place in the South, and that there is more intolerance towards homosexuals in the South due to the Bible Belt. It's not rocket science. I didn't mean to say that all of the people in the South are narrow-minded, but a lot of narrow-minded organizations and thoughts are more frequent in the South.

alright that's fine. though i'm not a fan of the word bible-belt either, but whatever.

[shes.a.ghost]

I don't really care. As long as black people don't call me the N-Word, then I could care less. It doesn't affect me. But I don't like the fact that black people call us "Crackers", or whatever stupid words they use to describe us, without caring that they are being racist. I think if people feel they need to offend someone, they should just use words that can be used universally, such as: Bitch, Asshole, Mother Fucker, Douche Bag, Poop Face, Cock Sucker, ect. Ha.

[industrialbelt]

if black people call me cracker, why can't i drop an n-bomb? i think the logic in that is somewhat valid.

[Love As Arson]

But I don't like the fact that black people call us "Crackers", or whatever stupid words they use to describe us, without caring that they are being racist.
"Cracker" is considered more acceptable because it is being used against the dominant group in society. Further, we must refrain from generalizing.

[decrescendo27]

this thread is pretty damn entertaining

[Shatter590]

"Cracker" is considered more acceptable because it is being used against the dominant group in society. Further, we must refrain from generalizing.

I personally prefer Kraut or Mick.

[RedWineSheets]

NYC to North Carolina was one hell of a culture shock for me. Where I live, the air is either liberal or moderate, pro choice, pro gay rights, largely agnostic, largely tolerant of race.

After spending a month in NC, it was like an overload- the exact opposite of what i was used to. perhaps it was because it was a "mountain town" or maybe because of my familiar standard of living, but the people their irked me. I got called out a few times for not being religious, for not supporting conservatives (the liberal bashing TV commercials just blew my mind), for not laughing at the "dumb n-word" jokes...i know not all of the south is like this, especially from the times ive been in Atlanta, but it scared me. I really thought most of this was a stereotype until i saw it...

What town were you in just out of curiosity? Also, Charlotte and Raleigh are not like that at all. Raleigh probably has one of the highest concentrations with people with PHDs in the South. It has some nickname having to do with that. Its funny because most of those are locationing from the North going to Duke, State, or UNC.

[RedWineSheets]

if black people call me cracker, why can't i drop an n-bomb? i think the logic in that is somewhat valid.

There is history and hate associated with the N-word to hits a lot deeper than the term "cracker."

[RedWineSheets]

I do know that the larger KKK organizations presently take place in the South, and that there is more intolerance towards homosexuals in the South due to the Bible Belt. It's not rocket science. I didn't mean to say that all of the people in the South are narrow-minded, but a lot of narrow-minded organizations and thoughts are more frequent in the South.

My girlfriends grandparents are from the town of Lexington, NC. There til this day it is common to see a KKK rally downtown.

[tambam]

My girlfriends grandparents are from the town of Lexington, NC. There til this day it is common to see a KKK rally downtown.

That's horrible.

[trindaddy]

i dont really like this topic. im not black, therefore i dont believe i have the right to have a strong opinion on whether they should use or be offended by the word.

[Justin_stacy]

I think the predominant use of the word in rap “music” can have the positive effect of working to eliminate the words power in relation to hate or racism. Its almost like saying we’re taking this word from you, and will no longer allow you the ability to use it to hurt us with it.

But from a societal standpoint the use of the “n-word” is one of the smaller problems facing rap “music,” which makes it all the more funny (or sad, depending on how you look at it) when self serving race hustlers go after it but ignore the far greater problems facing this “music” and its impact on black communities.

[music3chick]

First of all, I want to mention that I have lived in Texas all my life and I hate it here. Hopefully, I can get a job somewhere up north when I graduate. Yes, the South has that whole "southern hospitality" thing going for it and I like that, but their narrow-minded beliefs I can't stand. Especially when they vote in people with the same beliefs that then control me and the people that I care about.

I hate the n-word and I don't use it. I just see it as a degrading word, whether if it is a black or a white person using it.

Should rap music use the word? I would prefer that they don't, but that's because I don't like the word. I hardly listen to music that include that word in the lyrics anyway.

And the n-word and "cracker" aren't even comparable.

[rikfrommf]

if black people call me cracker, why can't i drop an n-bomb? i think the logic in that is somewhat valid.

The gross (as in large) assumption you are making is that the two terms are equatable. As someone else pointed out there is a history of usage of the "n"word that make it socially unacceptable. Lets face it, "Blacks" are winning the race war. Winners of wars write the history. They decide what word is bad. Nazi is synonymous with evil, but had Germany won. "republican" (as in the form of government we have) would be instead.
""Blacks" are winning the race war" I see this getting people all up in arms so Ill clarify. By "blacks" I don't mean that a black people are winning. I mean the sentiment of equality within the "black" movement is. It is key to note that at the beginning it was "Everyone is equal" vs. "Whites are superior". In that regard I am using the term "black" to refer to equality.

All that being said, If you wanna say cracker, do it. You wanna say the N word, do it. But recognize that there will be consequences, just as with every right. What was that quote about rights only extending as far as they don't inhibit the rights of another. That could be a valuable counter-argument to using the word as one could say that the word's usage inhibits the "inalienable" right to the pusuit of happiness. But, sadly, that declaration of independence doesn't have the force of law, so although we founded our nation to pursue those rights its not law.

[rikfrommf]

That's horrible.

It is not. It is free speech. You may not agree with it and morally it is wrong, but it is their right.

Use those people. Teach your children what NOT to aspire to. Instead of telling them "racism is bad" walk them out to SEE people rallying. EXPLAIN to them what they are saying. Make sure they are at an age where they can understand the concepts though.

[concernedparent]

The word itself is not causing racism. Even if it was, it should not be banned. A word can not be banned. Every rapper can use the word if he/she would like.

[concernedparent]

I think the predominant use of the word in rap “music” can have the positive effect of working to eliminate the words power in relation to hate or racism. Its almost like saying we’re taking this word from you, and will no longer allow you the ability to use it to hurt us with it.

But from a societal standpoint the use of the “n-word” is one of the smaller problems facing rap “music,” which makes it all the more funny (or sad, depending on how you look at it) when self serving race hustlers go after it but ignore the far greater problems facing this “music” and its impact on black communities.
Yeah, go ahead and put "rap" in quotations like you're some superior indie fuck. Douche.

[tambam]

It is not. It is free speech. You may not agree with it and morally it is wrong, but it is their right.

Use those people. Teach your children what NOT to aspire to. Instead of telling them "racism is bad" walk them out to SEE people rallying. EXPLAIN to them what they are saying. Make sure they are at an age where they can understand the concepts though.

You don't think it's horrible that the KKK are still trying to spread hate? I know what you're saying, but what that group stands for is horrible, plain and simple. I never said anything about rights, I just called it out for what it was.

[concernedparent]

What I like about racism threads, is the same exact debates are brought up in every thread, and the responses are exactly the same.

[Justin_stacy]

Yeah, go ahead and put "rap" in quotations like you're some superior indie fuck. Douche.

I didn't put "rap" in quotations you blind dopey fuck.

[industrialbelt]

What I like about racism threads, is the same exact debates are brought up in every thread, and the responses are exactly the same.

not everyone goes into every thread. if you don't like them so much then just write about how you're self-concious or post some youtube videos.

[rikfrommf]

You don't think it's horrible that the KKK are still trying to spread hate? I know what you're saying, but what that group stands for is horrible, plain and simple. I never said anything about rights, I just called it out for what it was.

being Christian of COURSE I believe that what they do is wrong. It borders on False doctrine some of the time. It is horrible and sad that its still continuing but at least its a reminder of the rights we have. If they can stand outside and talk about stuff so dumb, we know our first amendment is still intact. With education that racism stuff diminishes significantly. It becomes an interpersonal struggle and not mass rallies of lynchers.

[Justin_stacy]

You don't think it's horrible that the KKK are still trying to spread hate?

The KKK is almost nonexistent nowadays, with nearly no influence or ability to cause fear. Membership is less then 3,000 national.

[industrialbelt]

being Christian of COURSE I believe that what they do is wrong. It borders on False doctrine some of the time. It is horrible and sad that its still continuing but at least its a reminder of the rights we have. If they can stand outside and talk about stuff so dumb, we know our first amendment is still intact. With education that racism stuff diminishes significantly. It becomes an interpersonal struggle and not mass rallies of lynchers.

you're too smart to spend time on this site.

[rikfrommf]

The KKK is almost nonexistent nowadays, with nearly no influence or ability to cause fear. Membership is less then 3,000 national.
There are KKK sensitive organizations though. like the World Church of the Creator, that are just as bad. As well as a few militant organizations hidden in the states.

[tambam]

being Christian of COURSE I believe that what they do is wrong. It borders on False doctrine some of the time. It is horrible and sad that its still continuing but at least its a reminder of the rights we have. If they can stand outside and talk about stuff so dumb, we know our first amendment is still intact. With education that racism stuff diminishes significantly. It becomes an interpersonal struggle and not mass rallies of lynchers.

You don't have to be a Christian to believe what they do is wrong. I'm not a Christian at all but I'm outraged by what they believe. But I do get the rest of what you're saying.

[rikfrommf]

you're too smart to spend time on this site.

Sarcasm or a compliment?

Either way I try not to be on too much. I do love education though. And sharing thoughts and opinions. Mostly I dislike being on here because no one follows the rules of argumentation nor do they often apply logic. Plus many are misinformed, and many of the "open minded" ones really aren't "open minded" they just share a non main stream opinion and clutch to it just as much as someone with a main stream opinion. If all you do is think outside of the box you're screwed. There is some important stuff in that box.

[tambam]

The KKK is almost nonexistent nowadays, with nearly no influence or ability to cause fear. Membership is less then 3,000 national.

That may be true, but it's still sad that people with beliefs that hateful and extreme still operate in groups in this day and age. Of course, it's a shame that a lot of attitudes still exist in this day and age, but hey, all you can do is educate.

[rikfrommf]

You don't have to be a Christian to believe what they do is wrong. I'm not a Christian at all but I'm outraged by what they believe. But I do get the rest of what you're saying.

I was explaining that I feel it is morally wrong because i posses "Christian" morals. Equality being one of them. I hope I didn't sound self-promoting, it wasn't my intention, I just prefer to state the basis of my morals.

[industrialbelt]

Sarcasm or a compliment?

Either way I try not to be on too much. I do love education though. And sharing thoughts and opinions. Mostly I dislike being on here because no one follows the rules of argumentation nor do they often apply logic. Plus many are misinformed, and many of the "open minded" ones really aren't "open minded" they just share a non main stream opinion and clutch to it just as much as someone with a main stream opinion. If all you do is think outside of the box you're screwed. There is some important stuff in that box.

legit compliment.

[tambam]

I was explaining that I feel it is morally wrong because i posses "Christian" morals. Equality being one of them. I hope I didn't sound self-promoting, it wasn't my intention, I just prefer to state the basis of my morals.

Nah, don't worry about it.

[rikfrommf]

legit compliment.

Then I thank you.

[KidDisaster2113]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMlPVpXtkJY

This should solve the question.[/quote]

[Justin_stacy]

There are KKK sensitive organizations though. like the World Church of the Creator, that are just as bad. As well as a few militant organizations hidden in the states.

But that's a little different then labeling all things KKK. Calling all white directed hatred as the result of the KKK allows the real groups, who have influence, the abilty to hide in the cover unrestricted. The KKK as an institution is nothing, and has been for many years.

[Justin_stacy]

That may be true, but it's still sad that people with beliefs that hateful and extreme still operate in groups in this day and age. Of course, it's a shame that a lot of attitudes still exist in this day and age, but hey, all you can do is educate.

College life will show you that education alone doesn't equate to intelligence or reason.

But on point this does show something positive....that a group that had 12 million members 80 years ago now has less than 3,000. Is that not progress? Yes we still have groups like the Nation of Islam, and all those Militant World Order groups....but the grand daddy of hate is for all essential purpose dead gone.

Extremist groups can never totally be wiped away, i think everyone sees that. There will always be pathetic anarchist in the streets and wacko right wingers in the mountains......but we can prohibit their ability to recruit, prosper, and disrupt normal life. The KKK was brought down because it was deprived of its power and ability to hide within society.

[tambam]

College life will show you that education alone doesn't equate to intelligence or reason.

But on point this does show something positive....that a group that had 12 million members 80 years ago now has less than 3,000. Is that not progress? Yes we still have groups like the Nation of Islam, and all those Militant World Order groups....but the grand daddy of hate is for all essential purpose dead gone.

Very good point.

[Love As Arson]

Justin, the anti-immigrant sentiment, which has arisen in recent years, has provided hate groups a new front on which wage their war. In fact, their numbers have increased precisely because of this.

[Justin_stacy]

Justin, the anti-immigrant sentiment, which has arisen in recent years, has provided hate groups a new front on which wage their war. In fact, their numbers have increased precisely because of this.

did i disagree with that somewhere?

[concernedparent]

not everyone goes into every thread. if you don't like them so much then just write about how you're self-concious or post some youtube videos.
I said I do like them. Learn to read.

[Love As Arson]

did i disagree with that somewhere?
No, but I felt it was pertinent to point out that groups like the KKK have a new, and effective, recruiting tool.

[industrialbelt]

I said I do like them. Learn to read.

my fault, i tend to skim over uninteresting or poorly written posts.

also i thought i might have sensed some sarcasm. i guess you just aren't that witty.

[shes.a.ghost]

"Cracker" is considered more acceptable because it is being used against the dominant group in society. Further, we must refrain from generalizing.And that is a ridiculous quality that we as a society hold. "Cracker" is a derogatory term for white people. Just because it doesn't have a social stigma like the N-word does not mean that it should be passive or "more accepted" by any means. Any words directed at a specific race should be unacceptable, regardless of status. People who say "well, it's more accepted that the N-word" are doing so in ignorance. I certainly hope you are not claiming that you yourself find it acceptable to say, but only stating what is a fact throughout our society.

[Shatter590]

What town were you in just out of curiosity? Also, Charlotte and Raleigh are not like that at all. Raleigh probably has one of the highest concentrations with people with PHDs in the South. It has some nickname having to do with that. Its funny because most of those are locationing from the North going to Duke, State, or UNC.

Cullowhee, Sylva and Asheville. Asheville was fine though, i loved it there.

[concernedparent]

my fault, i tend to skim over uninteresting or poorly written posts.

also i thought i might have sensed some sarcasm. i guess you just aren't that witty.
Neither are you ;-)

[dai the flu]

so if cracker or honky is acceptable because it doesnt carry the evil connotation of the n-word, is it ok to call black people coon, porch monkey, or sambo?
not that i want to, im just trying to make sense of the logic being applied here.

my point is: whether a word carries special significance or not, a racial slur is a racial slur and it should be condemned no matter what race is being denigrated or what race is using the slur. no double-standards.

[RedWineSheets]

Cullowhee, Sylva and Asheville. Asheville was fine though, i loved it there.

haha the boonies. Yeah I could imagine that it gets kinda "Hill Have Eyes"ish out there. Asheville is really nice though.

[boykosaurus]

eh, I don't know. I grew up in an area/school where whites were often the minority; I lived with a culture that said ***** a lot, and I myself would say it once in a while. It's gotten to the point where I've become desensitized to the word "*****".

But the other variation of the word, for some reason, still makes me uncomfortable. The way this word, it's usage, and it variations have progressed is really weird

I guess free speech should just reign in this case

[open mind]

all i've got to say on the subject is la la la la laaaaaa la laaaaaa la all you ****** die