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Love As Arson
11/03/07, 02:46 PM
When the Chicago Council on Global Affairs cancelled a scheduled talk by Professors John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt on the topic of their new book, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, the Council was accused of capitulating to pressure from The Israel Lobby itself. The Council’s President Marshall Bouton denied that the action was due to external pressure, or even that a cancellation had, in fact, happened. Bouton says a Council event with Mearsheimer and Walt will occur at a date in the future, but that the authors will be joined in a panel format by other speakers with contrasting views.

The Chicago Council on Global Relations is not the first institution to experience the force of controversy generated by criticism of Israeli policy and the U.S. government’s long-standing support of it. Nor is the Council alone in trying to calculate how to maneuver around the heated controversy that these topics generate.

Less than two months after the cancellation of Mearsheimer and Walt’s talk at the Chicago Council, administrators at the University of St. Thomas in St. Paul, Minnesota, cancelled a scheduled talk by the Nobel Peace Laureate Archbishop Desmond Tutu. The cancellation came, university administrators explained, because some past statements by Tutu about Israeli policy were “hurtful to some members of the Jewish community.” Julie Swiler, an employee of the Jewish Community Relations Council of Minnesota and the Dakotas, was consulted by university administrators, along with a few rabbis teaching within St. Thomas' Center for Jewish-Christian Learning. Swiler explained, “I think there’s a consensus in the Jewish community that [Tutu’s] words were offensive.”(1)

Swiler was referring to remarks allegedly made by Tutu comparing Israel to Hitler. In the weeks after the University of St. Thomas cancelled Tutu’s appearance, it came to light that those comments attributed to Tutu were a fabrication. In paraphrasing remarks by Tutu in Boston conference, Morton Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America, distorted Tutu’s remarks in a ZOA press release.(2) The distorted version worked its way into the media and, in the words of the Jewish Daily Forward, “over time it acquired the status of a factual account.”(3)

Like many of the most visible organizations that claim to represent American Jewish interests and to speak for American Jews, the Jewish Community Relations Council for Minnesota and the Dakotas is, among other things, a pro-Israel advocacy organization. Its “Stand Up For Israel” project exists for the purpose of “advocating for peace and security for Israel through education, information and community action.”(4) Jewish community organizations like the JCRC, along with numerous conservative and Christian Zionist organizations, form what Mearsheimer and Walt call The Israel Lobby. According to Mearsheimer and Walt, as well as the many sources they cite in their research, The Lobby acts as an intimidating and coercive force pursuing a mission to suppress criticism of Israeli policy.

Mearsheimer and Walt’s study of The Israel Lobby has been met with both cheers and sharp criticism. Even many critics of the book’s methodology praise the authors for having broached an important, underexamined topic. In a largely critical review, Walter Russell Mead, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, writes:

One must also commend the two authors for their decision to focus on an important topic that has not received the attention it merits. The politics of U.S. policy in the Middle East is a subject that is not well understood. Pro-Israel organizations, political action committees (PACs), and individuals do play significant roles in the U.S. political process, and they do influence politicians and journalists. Given the importance of the Middle East in U.S. foreign policy and world affairs, these actors and their influence should be explored. Even if The Israel Lobby is in the end not as helpful as they hope, Mearsheimer and Walt have admirably and courageously helped to start a much-needed conversation on a controversial and combustible topic. There should be no taboos among students of U.S. foreign policy—no questions that should not be asked, no issues that should be considered too hot to handle, no relationships or alliances, however deep or enduring, that should not be regularly and searchingly reviewed.(5)


Naturally, the taboos that constrain discussion of U.S. foreign policy affect non-governmental organizations as well. Most organizations—whether in the media, education, business, or nonprofit sectors—are risk averse, seeking to avoid controversy and internal dissension. The consequences of negative publicity can be disastrous for organizations reliant on subscriptions, advertising revenues, financial contributions, and sales. While some censorship is, indeed, externally imposed, proactive self-censorship also occurs to avoid the controversy that embroils individuals and organizations airing views critical of Israeli policy.

In the two episodes mentioned here, in which forums featuring speakers known to be critical of Israeli policy were cancelled, the host institutions deny unwelcome intrusion or pressure by outsiders. Certainly there are many reasons for institutions to deny intimidation even when it exists. Institutions vulnerable to external pressure would not wish to risk further retribution by naming its source. Institutions promoting themselves as bastions of academic freedom and open public discourse would be loath to admit that they capitulated to outside pressure from special interest groups.

The stated rationale for the Chicago Council on Global Affairs’ cancellation of the Mearsheimer and Walt talk changed dramatically in the weeks thereafter. An early rationale, reported by Mearsheimer himself, was provided during a phone call from Council President Bouton to Mearsheimer, reported in the New York Times. Walt and Mearsheimer related the contents of that conversation in a four-page letter to the board of the Council: “On July 24, Council President Marshall Bouton phoned one of us (Mearsheimer) and informed him that he was canceling the event,” and that his decision “was based on the need ‘to protect the institution.’ He said that he had a serious ‘political problem,’ because there were individuals who would be angry if he gave us a venue to speak, and that this would have serious negative consequences for the council.”(6)

In more recent statements about the cancellation, however, Bouton doesn’t attribute the Council’s action to a desire to avoid angering individuals hostile to Mearsheimer and Walt’s thesis or to possibly negative consequences for the Council in allowing them to be heard. “The Council had an obligation,” Bouton wrote in response to inquiries about the cancellation, “to deepen the discussion rather than simply to add to the heated atmosphere that was developing around the book’s release.” The panel format used by the council for controversial topics, Bouton says, allows the Council to “contribute to the public debate in a more inclusive fashion that brings context and contending viewpoints together in the same event.” Members are attracted to the Council, Bouton continues, because “we present the important issues in a way that is designed to inform thoughtful discussion, not simply to provoke.(7) [emphasis added]

A letter-writing campaign protesting the University of St. Thomas’ cancellation of Desmond Tutu’s appearance was initiated by Jewish Voice for Peace’s Muzzlewatch Project and generated 2,700 letters in a matter of days. [The JVP campaign is widely seen as instrumental in prompting the university’s president, Father Dennis Dease, to reverse the decision later and reinvite Archbishop Tutu.] JVP created Muzzlewatch (www.muzzlewatch.org) in January, 2007, because incidents such as the cancellations at the Chicago Council and the University of St. Thomas are not isolated events, but part of a much larger trend of censorship and self-censorship. Muzzlewatch tracks efforts to stifle open debate about US-Israeli foreign policy. Groups like JVP work to counteract the perception that high-profile Israel-advocacy groups represent all American Jews and to illuminate the dangers of this broad pattern in which people critical of Israeli human rights violations are attacked and silenced.

Is there a problem with the University of St. Thomas’ president trying to avoid hurting the Jewish community? Is Council president Bouton in error when he seeks to not provoke? Jewish Voice for Peace co-directors Plitnick and Surasky see hazard in the institutional self-censorship that follows from these apparently good intentions: “Dease seems to have been motivated by a genuine desire to avoid hurting Minnesota’s Jewish community. However, he ended up...making a wrong and unethical decision...”(8)

When organizations are motivated by a determination to avoid controversy and negative publicity, they are easy targets for pro-Israel advocacy organizations and individuals who work tirelessly to generate controversy and negative publicity. Well-intentioned persons wary of being accused of being hurtful, provocative, or anti-Semitic are easily manipulated and exploited by pro-Israel advocacy organizations and individuals that are expert at whipping up orchestrated expressions of hurt—at being provoked—often baselessly. When institutions use the response from pro-Israel advocacy organizations as a gauge of the controversial nature of information, they leave it to those organizations to determine what is controversial, provocative, and hurtful.

What do we, as a society, lose by allowing, year after year, the stifling of open, critical discussion of Israeli policy and U.S. support for it?

Some observers see tremendous risk for Jews. The Jewish Daily Forward warns of “the shrinking credibility and good name of American Jewish public advocacy.” Of “the supposedly bullying power of the Jewish lobby,” The Forward further warns, “we are following an old model of Jewish advocacy in a world where the rules have changed. We give free rein to our most alarmist instincts—defend Israel unquestioningly, accept on faith any accusation of antisemitism, believe the worst of everyone—and in so doing we permit the most extreme and cynical elements in our community to set our agenda.”(9)

Plitnick and Surasky see Dease’s misguided, although well-intentioned, cancellation of Tutu as “hurting Jews everywhere,” but also “harming hopes for a more-enlightened American attitude toward the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.”(10)

American organizations that are accused of anti-Israel bias are often forced to direct vast amounts of time and energy to public relations damage-control in response to orchestrated smear campaigns initiated by those seeking to suppress open discussion of U.S. and Israeli policy. The local hysteria generated by many of Israel’s American advocates is deafening and preoccupying. Meanwhile, the distant sounds of despair and rage from Palestinians—impoverished, isolated, brutalized, and facing relentless dispossession by Israeli occupation—are, by contrast, barely audible.

A recently-published study of Israeli Defense Forces soldiers by a psychologist at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem recounts numerous incidents of unprovoked violence and sadism toward Palestinians in the occupied territories, as reported by the soldiers who perpetrated them.(11) While the report is “provoking bitter controversy and has awakened urgent questions” in Israel, the report has gotten no attention in the U.S. The Palestinian experience exists apart from Israel’s and the world’s willingness to see and hear it. As Israel's primary diplomatic and financial backer, the U.S., by its historic unwillingness to reckon and openly discuss the Palestinian experience of the Israeli occupation, creates grave consequences, not only for Jews, Israelis, and Palestinians, but for the world.

Juan Cole, the University of Michigan history professor who authors the Informed Comment blog, warns of these consequences. Referring to the IDF study, he writes, “The U.S. political elite and media that conceals the brutality of the Israeli occupation for sectional political gains are accomplices to this sadism, and their silence endangers the security of the United States. When we cannot understand why Arab audiences, who are perfectly aware of what the Israeli army has been doing to Palestinians for decades, are outraged, it leads us into policy mistakes in dealing with the Middle East.”(12)

University administrators, media professionals, religious leaders, public servants, and others who avoid the hot-button issue of Israel/Palestine for fear of hurting, provoking, or stirring up controversy should remember that the road to hell is, indeed, paved with good intentions. By suppressing free and open public discussion of an issue of major concern, we maintain a dangerous status quo in Israel/Palestine for which, as Americans, we are largely responsible. For how long will we prolong suffering and postpone peace?

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=107&ItemID=14188

Nevuk
11/03/07, 07:18 PM
I really don't understand the Israeli lobby, and the Christian right's crazed support for them. The majority of Israel isn't actively Jewish (I think I once saw the statistics as being around 90% athiestic), the only plausible explanation is they are trying to bring forth the rapture by setting up the necessary pre-reqs from the bible.

boykosaurus
11/03/07, 07:23 PM
I really don't understand the Israeli lobby, and the Christian right's crazed support for them. The majority of Israel isn't actively Jewish (I think I once saw the statistics as being around 90% athiestic), the only plausible explanation is they are trying to bring forth the rapture by setting up the necessary pre-reqs from the bible.

bingo...at least for a small group of Jews in Israel, it just so happens that Evangelical Christians identify with them greatly and Evangelicals are a growing population in this country

Love As Arson
11/03/07, 08:13 PM
I don't actually believe the Israel lobby is as strong as some may suggest; rather, I think it is the US which controls it and uses it as a proxy for its imperialism. It is striking, however, that, in contrast to other countries, the dialogue of the US is restricted.

simplelivin_GCH
11/03/07, 09:06 PM
I really don't understand the Israeli lobby, and the Christian right's crazed support for them. The majority of Israel isn't actively Jewish (I think I once saw the statistics as being around 90% athiestic), the only plausible explanation is they are trying to bring forth the rapture by setting up the necessary pre-reqs from the bible.

i've driven by many evangelical churches down in cincinnati when i went to school down there and lots of their message boards they have like in front of the building had like encouraging messages for the Israeli army when they annihilated Lebanon last summer..it really confused me but i thnk it offended me because im Lebanese...whatever, i just wish everyone could like each other haha

senatorlamb
11/05/07, 03:05 AM
I don't actually believe the Israel lobby is as strong as some may suggest; rather, I think it is the US which controls it and uses it as a proxy for its imperialism. It is striking, however, that, in contrast to other countries, the dialogue of the US is restricted.

I agree on some points. The Israel Lobby is strong but over hyped. What about the Saudi Arabian lobby? For all the talk of a war on terror, we've let our Saudi friends get away with a lot. Yet we just sent them billions in military aid. Israel wasn't too happy with that. Or the Armenian lobby which nearly got the U.S. Congress to pass a bill that would have severely undermined our own interests in Turkey and Iraq. People love to talk about how Israel controls our foreign policy but its basically the Protocols of Zion 2.0 aka "the Jews control everything." Noam Chomsky of all people really smacks down (http://www.chomsky.info/articles/20060328.htm) this notion.

Strategically it makes sense to be strong allies with Israel. If not us, Russia and China will. In fact, Israel started out with a very leftist, secular government, and had very cordial relations with the Soviet Union. In the context of the Cold War, it made sense to be pro-Israel. Secondly, the U.S. and Israel have a shared value system - western ideals, and a democratic tradition. It would make sense for the U.S. to protect to give it economic and military support. But have we followed lock step with Israeli interests? Ask Bush's father who managed to pressure the Israelis to not strike back at Saddam during the Gulf War, or Reagan who condemned Israeli's bombing of Iraq's nuclear facilities, or even earlier, when Eisenhower did not support Israel, France, and Britain's take over of the Suez Canal. Sure, like all religious and ethnic groups, Jews will lobby their government to support certain policies. And as a people so persecuted throughout history, Jews have a right to be concerned. But obsession with Jewish influence has been a psychological equivalent to black sexuality toward white women; both being played upon by irrational fears and long held prejudices.

Love As Arson
11/05/07, 04:16 AM
I agree on some points. The Israel Lobby is strong but over hyped. What about the Saudi Arabian lobby? For all the talk of a war on terror, we've let our Saudi friends get away with a lot. Yet we just sent them billions in military aid.
In one respect, I agree; that is, both are nations which routinely abuse human rights, and by virtue of their importance to US policy, they are protected.

Israel wasn't too happy with that.
In response to their discontent, the US gave them more military funding.

Or the Armenian lobby which nearly got the U.S. Congress to pass a bill that would have severely undermined our own interests in Turkey and Iraq.
Congress should have passed it, regardless of the interests in Iraq and Turkey. For these sorts of things, there needs to be a universal standard, otherwise such proclamations are irrelevant.

People love to talk about how Israel controls our foreign policy but its basically the Protocols of Zion 2.0 aka "the Jews control everything." Noam Chomsky of all people really smacks down (http://www.chomsky.info/articles/20060328.htm) this notion.
I generally agree with Chomsky. The US controls Israel's policy, and, in some cases, Israel flouts US policy and conducts acts for its own interests.

Strategically it makes sense to be strong allies with Israel. If not us, Russia and China will. In fact, Israel started out with a very leftist, secular government, and had very cordial relations with the Soviet Union.
Israel is the antithesis of the word secular, as it is a "Jewish" state. As to its strategic value, one may certainly agree that it is quite important, but the context in which the conversation is occurring, is one that rejects the idea that strategic value outweighs the violation of human rights.

Secondly, the U.S. and Israel have a shared value system - western ideals, and a democratic tradition.
I would hardly call an apartheid state democratic.


t would make sense for the U.S. to protect to give it economic and military support. But have we followed lock step with Israeli interests? Ask Bush's father who managed to pressure the Israelis to not strike back at Saddam during the Gulf War, or Reagan who condemned Israeli's bombing of Iraq's nuclear facilities, or even earlier, when Eisenhower did not support Israel, France, and Britain's take over of the Suez Canal.
Israel has human rights violations which surpass that of Saddam Hussein. When there were efforts to make them accountable, the US consistently vetoed the resolutions. The most recent conflict in Lebanon is further evidence of the complicity of the US in Israel's rather brutal aggression. America, moreover, has stood alongside Israel in the undermining of any peace process, whether it be by starving a democratically elected government or rejecting peace policies that are accepted by the majority of European and Middle Eastern countries.

And as a people so persecuted throughout history, Jews have a right to be concerned.
in regards to the manner in which Israel is to be dealt with, the past suffering of the Jewish people should not be a mitigating factor.
But obsession with Jewish influence has been a psychological equivalent to black sexuality toward white women; both being played upon by irrational fears and long held prejudices.
There is a genuine desire to understand why there seems to be a nation, which is treated as though it is a state and is allowed to reject international law with its government's protection. The desire to ascribe this to the Jewish lobby misses the fundamental point about the center of power in its relationship.

dannytheschid
11/06/07, 01:29 PM
Both of my parents served in the IDF, and a majority of my family lives in Israel. I grew up in NYC which has a large Israeli population. I get upset on almost a weekly basis by how much the debate about Israel gets shut down. All the accusations of Anti-Semitism are idiotic. There is a difference between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism. Also, the form of Zionism that that ultimately established the state of Israel wasn't the only form of Zionism. Anyway, my views differ from all of my friends. But it amazes me how little Americans know about what goes on in the Occupied Territories. My friends act like they know, but they don't know shit. I doubt they've seen any of the documentaries or read any of the human rights reports on the oppression there. Anyway, most people think that all Jews support Israeli policy. I always like to be the example that shows people that that simply isn't true. Noam Chomsky and Norman Finklestein are also great examples.

senatorlamb
11/06/07, 03:53 PM
In one respect, I agree; that is, both are nations which routinely abuse human rights, and by virtue of their importance to US policy, they are protected.


In response to their discontent, the US gave them more military funding.


Congress should have passed it, regardless of the interests in Iraq and Turkey. For these sorts of things, there needs to be a universal standard, otherwise such proclamations are irrelevant.


I generally agree with Chomsky. The US controls Israel's policy, and, in some cases, Israel flouts US policy and conducts acts for its own interests.


Israel is the antithesis of the word secular, as it is a "Jewish" state. As to its strategic value, one may certainly agree that it is quite important, but the context in which the conversation is occurring, is one that rejects the idea that strategic value outweighs the violation of human rights.


I would hardly call an apartheid state democratic.



Israel has human rights violations which surpass that of Saddam Hussein. When there were efforts to make them accountable, the US consistently vetoed the resolutions. The most recent conflict in Lebanon is further evidence of the complicity of the US in Israel's rather brutal aggression. America, moreover, has stood alongside Israel in the undermining of any peace process, whether it be by starving a democratically elected government or rejecting peace policies that are accepted by the majority of European and Middle Eastern countries.


in regards to the manner in which Israel is to be dealt with, the past suffering of the Jewish people should not be a mitigating factor.

There is a genuine desire to understand why there seems to be a nation, which is treated as though it is a state and is allowed to reject international law with its government's protection. The desire to ascribe this to the Jewish lobby misses the fundamental point about the center of power in its relationship.

I can't say I'm an expert on Israel, though I've been doing a lot of reading on the region, but it was my impression that many in the Zionist movement were non-religious, leftist and even socialist in their politics. Being Jewish meant less in terms of religion, than it did in a stateless nation finally achieving a homeland.

Love As Arson
11/08/07, 11:42 AM
I can't say I'm an expert on Israel, though I've been doing a lot of reading on the region, but it was my impression that many in the Zionist movement were non-religious, leftist and even socialist in their politics. Being Jewish meant less in terms of religion, than it did in a stateless nation finally achieving a homeland.
There was a desire by those in favor of Zionism to try to synthesize it with Marxism, as many of the Jewish populace in Eastern Europe were part of radical parties, but many of those radicals rejected it as little more than bourgeois nationalism. When one looks at the objectives, the means by which the Jewish leaders sought to achieve imperialism-such as using European imperialism-it contradicts the essential message of socialism. Despite much of the secular rhetoric, it is infused with the religious doctrine, since it accepts the premise that the land belongs to the Jewish people by way of Yahweh.

senatorlamb
11/10/07, 05:49 PM
Just read a book called "Jews and Power" by Ruth Wisse. I would suggest if you are looking for a pro-Israel side for an alternative viewpoint, that you pick this up.

Owlpunk1941
11/10/07, 10:32 PM
I really don't understand the Israeli lobby, and the Christian right's crazed support for them. The majority of Israel isn't actively Jewish (I think I once saw the statistics as being around 90% athiestic), the only plausible explanation is they are trying to bring forth the rapture by setting up the necessary pre-reqs from the bible.

Judaism - I speak as a Jew myself - encompasses a lot more than just what we might call active worship, and thinking of oneself as a Jew goes beyond merely going to synagogue or keeping kosher (I do neither, liking bacon too much BUT the former I would do if I wasn't famous and could fend off the autograph hunters for two minutes while praying). Therefore, even as someone who considers himself European and has grave reservations about the way Israel is governed, this statement suggests that Israel has no right to exist because 90% of its citizens do not exist either. I think you might find that Israelis are Israelis regardless of religion, and most younger Israelis are actively reaching across religious boundaries to form an antidote to either the absurd statements made by the pro-Palestinian "peace activists" - who are often anything BUT - and the silly and inflammatory pro-Israel-whatever-the-government-is-like Christian fundamentalists.

While the West argues, the Israelis get on with ensuring the next generation does not repeat the sins of the past and Ariel Sharon =/= Israel in general just like Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld =/= America in general.

If you want to post something like this please do your research first before you repeat the same self-righteous bigotry and hatred you think you are speaking out against.

Nevuk
11/11/07, 12:39 AM
Judaism - I speak as a Jew myself - encompasses a lot more than just what we might call active worship, and thinking of oneself as a Jew goes beyond merely going to synagogue or keeping kosher (I do neither, liking bacon too much BUT the former I would do if I wasn't famous and could fend off the autograph hunters for two minutes while praying). Therefore, even as someone who considers himself European and has grave reservations about the way Israel is governed, this statement suggests that Israel has no right to exist because 90% of its citizens do not exist either. I think you might find that Israelis are Israelis regardless of religion, and most younger Israelis are actively reaching across religious boundaries to form an antidote to either the absurd statements made by the pro-Palestinian "peace activists" - who are often anything BUT - and the silly and inflammatory pro-Israel-whatever-the-government-is-like Christian fundamentalists.

While the West argues, the Israelis get on with ensuring the next generation does not repeat the sins of the past and Ariel Sharon =/= Israel in general just like Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld =/= America in general.

If you want to post something like this please do your research first before you repeat the same self-righteous bigotry and hatred you think you are speaking out against.
Ah, I was referring to experiences I've had in a church. I wasn't suggesting that Israel had no right to exist, I personally feel no State has a right to exist, but thats an idealogical idea thats rather different from this. I'm mostly commenting on the almost rabid nature of support I've experienced in evangelical churches for political things I really can see no reason for them to support. Usually it was just taken for granted that support for Israeli should be automatically given without question, because they were the Jewish State(I'm remembering praise for the most recent military action, and condemnation of the non-Israeli's for provoking it, declarations that the double state solution was evil, etc. These are the only events I was old enough to be aware of within the church, and I haven't been in a church since). Of course Israel has the right to exist as much as any country does, France, etc. I'm just scratching my head as to why the church I went to took that strong of an attitude towards a relatively atheistic country while condemning all of europe for being atheists and refusing and the 6% church attendance.

Honestly, I have no power to effect any decisions of anyone, I'm an admitted agnostic anarchist, and in real life almost no one takes any of my political commentary seriously. So please don't take me as any thing akin to a threat. I'm well aware that anti-semitic sentiment is still remarkably strong in America. My statement was almost entirely concerned with America as it related to the Israeli lobby. I think I could agree with Love As Arson's comment that the Israeli lobby is rumored to be far more powerful than it is actually is, and I'd go further and say anti-semitism is probably at least in part responsible for this rumored strength. What I meant, as plainly as I could say it : Why does the Evangelical branch of the right within my country support Israel so strongly? From my point of view, it seems illogical. Why such a strong support for them and not say, Brazil? I see how what I said could be construed anti-Israeli, but I blame my phrasing, and typing what you commented rather rapidly.

And I'm actually curious about something. Do you believe there is a difference between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism? I don't feel very strongly on this subject, actually. This is an intellectual pondering for me, not something which I believe has a tangible impact upon my life at this point in time. I'm asking because the typical reply someone would have given to your closing comments would have been "There is a difference between anti-Zionism and ant-Semitism, man!".

And I'm well aware I should be doing research before commenting seriously upon such topics - this is what I do to learn, and relax. And also why the majority of my comments are not serious. I'm still doing research on my beliefs, none of them are set in stone, I'm changing person. I have learned more from certain people in the politics forum than the majority of my classes, but its not a class. I rarely do independent research to support claims, instead I try and speak about what I'm already aware of, and to learn more about topics I don't. I have enough research papers to write on my own, and on this topic I'm not even sure there is a single unbiased source in existence.