The Outsiders

[CellarGhosts]

We just finished watching this movie in my Themes In Lit. class (as we just finished the novel last week), and I was wondering, if you've seen it, what do you think of it? I thought it was alright. Some cheesey moments, and poor acting at parts, but overall I felt it was pretty good. I thought that Matt Dillon was really good as Dallas, and that Diane Lane was good as Cherry (despite the fact that her role is pretty small in the movie, compared to everyone elses')
Like, one thing for me that put me off was the whole hair cutting scene. C. Thomas Howell going "Owwww!!!" hahaha...it just sounded so forced and stupid. But...overall I enjoyed it. What about you?

[thejetstolehome]

great childhood book, entertaining movie.

[Trainsaw]

yeah i like the book better than the movie, but i love most all of S.E. Hinton's work, it so simple but it pulls you in. 'That Was Then, This is Now' is still my fav book

[CellarGhosts]

great childhood book, entertaining movie.
Oh yeah, I loved the book. And I enjoyed the movie, despite its "off" parts. Plus it gets extra poits for the fact that Tom Waits cameos as Buck Merrill haha. I was like "Whoa, it's Tom!" haha yeah, though...Good movie overall. I heard that it got smashed by the critics when it first came out, but has since become a sort of cult classic.

[CellarGhosts]

I was expecting to read about the NWO :/
My apologies then hahaha

yeah i like the book better than the movie, but i love most all of S.E. Hinton's work, it so simple but it pulls you in. 'That Was Then, This is Now' is still my fav book
I haven't actually read any of Hinton's other novels. I plan to soon though haha.

[Trainsaw]

My apologies then hahaha


I haven't actually read any of Hinton's other novels. I plan to soon though haha.

you should they're pretty good and some of the characters tie into other books

[avengedtbs]

think of the money the actors in the movie have made over the years: Matt Dillon, Patrick Swayze, Diane Lane, Tom Cruise, C. Thomas Howell and Ralph Maccio (both back in the day), and Emilio Esteviez

[catscradle]

I love this movie and book. Tex and Rumble Fish were both good books by S.E. Hinton that translated into good movies.

[nonamesleft]

I read it in grade 5 and again in grade 8. We also saw the movie in grade 8 and we all thought the acting was terrible.

[StandMyBrothers]

Good book and good movie.

[sateendreem]

Awesome book. I read it in my teen years. I like the movie too. It was good, but an oversimplified version of the book. They cut too much out of the movie and it lacked real emotion. I do think Matt Dillon did a great job though.

[IAPAI]

If you haven't yet, listen to the original Hit Or Miss by New Found Glory (on Nothing Gold Can Stay).

[avengedtbs]

yeah i heard that at first and i thought to myself "wtf is this from ive heard it before"...then it just clicked

[tambam]

Good book, good movie, and great eye-candy in the movie.

[sateendreem]

Good book, good movie, and great eye-candy in the movie.

Oh yeah. It's like an eye candy treasure chest!

[CellarGhosts]

Awesome book. I read it in my teen years. I like the movie too. It was good, but an oversimplified version of the book. They cut too much out of the movie and it lacked real emotion. I do think Matt Dillon did a great job though.

Yeah I agree. Like...in the movie, it seems like it'd be sort of confusing to anyone whose never read the book, with the parts at the beginning and the end where Ponyboy was narrating ("When I stepped out of the darkness of the movie theater...") It never really shows him doing that in the movie, just them there at the street corner or whatever. And then at the end, it's like he just started to randomly write about all this, instead of clearing it up that it was a class project/writing theme, or whatever. But yes, Matt Dillon was pretty bad-assed in that movie haha.

[crazycrazy]

Have you ever seen the Complete Novel version of The Outsiders? They put all the scenes they filmed but took out, back into the movie. Some would be the beginning where Ponyboy is walking and gets jumped and the greasers show up and save him and also at the end, where the Curtis brothers are all talking. Many more too. I love the book and i love the movie, but this version of the movie is fantastic!!!

[CellarGhosts]

Have you ever seen the Complete Novel version of The Outsiders? They put all the scenes they filmed but took out, back into the movie. Some would be the beginning where Ponyboy is walking and gets jumped and the greasers show up and save him and also at the end, where the Curtis brothers are all talking. Many more too. I love the book and i love the movie, but this version of the movie is fantastic!!!
Hmm, really? Is this on DVD, then? If so, I'll have to check it out. Because despite the fact that parts were off, and some acting was bad at parts, I enjoyed this movie quite a bit for some reason. Thanks for the heads up on that one, though. Interesting.

[smokedsanity]

If you haven't yet, listen to the original Hit Or Miss by New Found Glory (on Nothing Gold Can Stay).

I just turned on Nothing Gold Can Stay. It's been years since I've listened to it. Thank you for giving me the idea. Such good stuff/memories.

Have you ever seen the Complete Novel version of The Outsiders? They put all the scenes they filmed but took out, back into the movie. Some would be the beginning where Ponyboy is walking and gets jumped and the greasers show up and save him and also at the end, where the Curtis brothers are all talking. Many more too. I love the book and i love the movie, but this version of the movie is fantastic!!!

I'll have to look for this. No matter how cheesy it may be,I like the movie. I'd be interested in something like what you are describing.

[CellarGhosts]

I just turned on Nothing Gold Can Stay. It's been years since I've listened to it. Thank you for giving me the idea. Such good stuff/memories.



I'll have to look for this. No matter how cheesy it may be,I like the movie. I'd be interested in something like what you are describing.

I'll have to check that song out too. I never really got into Nfg, but I'll check it...

And yes, like I said, i'd be interested in what they're describing as well. Cheesey as it may be, it's become a classic, apparently haha

[framebyframe]

I love the book and like the movie too. The acting wasn't that great, but it's still enjoyable to watch. Matt Dillon did a good job portraying Dallas, and he was exactly how I imagined him from reading the book. I really really did not like the guy who played Ponyboy for some reason. It was painful to watch him sometimes.

[framebyframe]

Have you ever seen the Complete Novel version of The Outsiders? They put all the scenes they filmed but took out, back into the movie. Some would be the beginning where Ponyboy is walking and gets jumped and the greasers show up and save him and also at the end, where the Curtis brothers are all talking. Many more too. I love the book and i love the movie, but this version of the movie is fantastic!!!

Yeah I saw this, but I gotta say I liked the original better. The music in this one was horrible; it was like surfer music.. it didn't match at all.

[CellarGhosts]

I love the book and like the movie too. The acting wasn't that great, but it's still enjoyable to watch. Matt Dillon did a good job portraying Dallas, and he was exactly how I imagined him from reading the book. I really really did not like the guy who played Ponyboy for some reason. It was painful to watch him sometimes.
Yeah, I agree. Matt Dillon was really good I thought as Dally, although the only part I had a problem with, with him, was the end where *spoiler spoiler spoiler* he gets shot. It didn't work out as well as it did in the book, plus it happens so fast you're kind of like "wh-what? did he just get shot, and now it's...the next scene already?"

And yeah, C. Thomas Howell and Ralph Maccio weren't the best choices for those roles, in my opinion. They had their moments, but overall, yes, a little painful to watch. But it's still a cool movie. Nothing earth-shattering, but in my opinion, espically with FFC behind the camera, it could've been done much better.

Yeah I saw this, but I gotta say I liked the original better. The music in this one was horrible; it was like surfer music.. it didn't match at all.
So is this alternate version like, a director's cut, or something, or is it an entierely different movie altogether, with different actors, etc? Maybe I won't check this one out after all...hmmm....

[framebyframe]

Yeah, I agree. Matt Dillon was really good I thought as Dally, although the only part I had a problem with, with him, was the end where *spoiler spoiler spoiler* he gets shot. It didn't work out as well as it did in the book, plus it happens so fast you're kind of like "wh-what? did he just get shot, and now it's...the next scene already?"

And yeah, C. Thomas Howell and Ralph Maccio weren't the best choices for those roles, in my opinion. They had their moments, but overall, yes, a little painful to watch. But it's still a cool movie. Nothing earth-shattering, but in my opinion, espically with FFC behind the camera, it could've been done much better.

Yeah, it was really sudden. And it didn't really explain how they were each effected by his death like it did in the book. Ralph Maccio was okay, I don't want to bash him though because he is the karate kid.

I thought the same thing about FFC. The Godfather, then The Outsiders?


So is this alternate version like, a director's cut, or something, or is it an entierely different movie altogether, with different actors, etc? Maybe I won't check this one out after all...hmmm....

It's a two disc special edition. It's the same movie with 22 minutes of additional footage, and it has a new soundtrack. The extra footage is added into where it fits; at the beginning when Ponyboy has an encounter with the socs, the court room scene, etc. It's more like the book, but in my opinion it is worse then the original.

[CellarGhosts]

Yeah, it was really sudden. And it didn't really explain how they were each effected by his death like it did in the book. Ralph Maccio was okay, I don't want to bash him though because he is the karate kid.

I thought the same thing about FFC. The Godfather, then The Outsiders?



It's a two disc special edition. It's the same movie with 22 minutes of additional footage, and it has a new soundtrack. The extra footage is added into where it fits; at the beginning when Ponyboy has an encounter with the socs, the court room scene, etc. It's more like the book, but in my opinion it is worse then the original.
Yeah, I agree with all that. It was pretty sudden. And then yeah, the Godfather, then the Outsiders? I was just expecting it to be really good...

And thanks for the info on the DVD. I saw it at Borders today and thought about getting it, but didn't.

[vandalsandquinn]

This is one of my favorite books

[CellarGhosts]

This is one of my favorite books
Oh yeah, definatley one of my favorites too. A very easy read, yet a really good one at that. If you notice throughout the book, alot of words are misspelled, or whatever, which gives it a really personal quality, like he really wrote all this down, grammatical errors and all.

And like I've said, the movie was good, but it could have been so much better, espically with Francis Ford in the director's chair.

[Poopiepeople]

Very good book, okay movie.

[Tom Good]

the book is amazing. The movie is pretty good too. But hey, anything with Ralph Machio is fine by me.

[CellarGhosts]

the book is amazing. The movie is pretty good too. But hey, anything with Ralph Machio is fine by me.
haha Ralph Machio. He was the karate kid after all haha

[JIMMYateEARTH]

THis was a good movie but the only time I have watched it was in Drama (I didn't choose this class I had to take it) class in the 8th grade. It was almost ruined cause the teacher would interupt to tell us the significance of every scene
God I really hated that class

[CellarGhosts]

THis was a good movie but the only time I have watched it was in Drama (I didn't choose this class I had to take it) class in the 8th grade. It was almost ruined cause the teacher would interupt to tell us the significance of every scene
God I really hated that class
Oh God I can't imagine haha. Well, that sure would ruin about any movie hahaha. Sorry you had to take that class, though haha. I'm in Themes In Literature right now, and I did choose to take it. It's not that bad. But we had to read the Scarlet Letter. It wouldnt've been so bad had it not been for all the 20-question assingments we had to do each chapter. ugh. haha

[JIMMYateEARTH]

Oh God I can't imagine haha. Well, that sure would ruin about any movie hahaha. Sorry you had to take that class, though haha. I'm in Themes In Literature right now, and I did choose to take it. It's not that bad. But we had to read the Scarlet Letter. It wouldnt've been so bad had it not been for all the 20-question assingments we had to do each chapter. ugh. haha
Yeah that is definately teh worst part of any literature class, making students dig though chapters to find specific stuff. That and teachers constantly telling you what the author was "really" talking about

[CellarGhosts]

Yeah that is definately teh worst part of any literature class, making students dig though chapters to find specific stuff. That and teachers constantly telling you what the author was "really" talking about
Oh yeah, definatley. Digging through "the Scarlet Letter" was hell and half haha, you know? Mostly because the questions were so specific, and so forth.

Luckily, the teacher in that class is actually really cool, so long as you don't piss her off hahaha. She didn't really "tell us" what certain things in the Scarlet Letter were about, she just sort of "explained" certain things that we had trouble understanding, in the context of the time period, and whatnot.

So it is a pretty cool class overall, now that we have "the Scarlet Letter" out of the way hahaha

[Colin Farrell]

I haven't seen it in years but I remember enjoying it. I thought the book was better though.

[CellarGhosts]

I haven't seen it in years but I remember enjoying it. I thought the book was better though.
Yeah, that seems to be the general opinion. The book is brilliant, I think. Definatley one of my favorites. I read somewhere that at first it was banned in schools. Sad. Very sad indeed haha

But yes, the movie was real cool. Just cheesey at parts, with some poor acting here and there.

[Brokenhill]

One of the best movies ever.

It's one of my favorites.

I know there's other fans out there.

[HoustonCalling]

there's an entire generation of fans. this movie came out 8 years before you were born. but yes, great movie, great cast, a staple of my DVD collection.

[Brokenhill]

Yea haha...personally I think the 80's has the best movies.

[IAPAI]

fantastic book/film

[MADSTA]

The only good book I was ever forced to read.

[framebyframe]

I'm embarassed to say that I have the original movie and special edition one, I used to be kind of obsessed.

The book is definately my favourite book out there. I remember when I read it in grade 7 I was so sad with the ending that I didn't go to school the next day.

[gonz]

Weird because I actually watched part of it today. Definitely a classic.

[lauren<3s music]

best book ever. hands down. ive read it hundreds of times and i love it every single time i read it even more

[AshesAshes]

Poor Johnny bastard had to save those kids from that church building

[DaveFeelsRight]

let's Do It For Johnny!

[eraserhead]

great book, I hardly remember the movie.

another good one by S.E. Hinton is That Was Then, This Is Now. horrible movie though.

[3eb23]

great book

[not so innocent]

omg! i <3 tht book!
i must confess afta reading tht book at skool i kept the copy my teacher gave me!?! i just fell in luv wiv th story... it makes me cry EVERYTYM i read it!?!
evry1 huz postd on this thread iz a legend!
1 ov the best bookz EVA!!!

[MattRM]

another good one by S.E. Hinton is That Was Then, This Is Now. horrible movie though.

Yeah, that movie was bad. But the book was pretty decent. The ending really pissed me off right after I read it, but I came around after a couple days.

I know "Rumble Fish" is supposed to be good too, but I haven't read it yet.

[DivisionStreet]

omg! i <3 tht book!
i must confess afta reading tht book at skool i kept the copy my teacher gave me!?! i just fell in luv wiv th story... it makes me cry EVERYTYM i read it!?!
evry1 huz postd on this thread iz a legend!
1 ov the best bookz EVA!!!

Hahaha. EVA!!!! Hahaha.

Amazing film and novel. I've loved the film since I was really young.

[superxero]

this movie is overrated, the book is amazing though..mc hammer cant even touch it.

[krishasaheadake]

great movie, I watch it whenever its on. Anyone else remember the failed tv series?

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[Brokenhill]

I don't remember the failed tv series. Looks lame though.

[SJms1026]

omg! i <3 tht book!
i must confess afta reading tht book at skool i kept the copy my teacher gave me!?! i just fell in luv wiv th story... it makes me cry EVERYTYM i read it!?!
evry1 huz postd on this thread iz a legend!
1 ov the best bookz EVA!!!
"huz"? "ov"? Jesus Christ.

Great book, great movie. And it looked like it was made into a horrible TV show.

[Bob Payne]

It doesn't really do much for me. I thought the film was mediocre at best, and the book doesn't appeal to me now that I read past a sixth grade level.

[Goodbye Forever]

Stay gold, Ponyboy. Stay gold.

(dies)

[bowl of oranges]

good book, never saw the movie

[TheDemosRock]

You don't wanna see it, it'll ruin it.

[Brokenhill]

I didn't know there was already a thread...I just noticed my remake merged with this one.