Zodiac 2-disc Director's Cut SE

[aminorthreat55]

No word yet on the specs other than it being about 15 minutes longer. But the cover looks fucking awesome:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2Bp2q2IhDL._SS500_.jpg

[unwritten]

haha, that is cool. I'll probably pick this up.

[jwelborn]

i really did enjoy this movie, ill eventually pick it up.

[popdisaster00]

Haven't seen the regular version yet. Too many people claimed it was too slow. But too many people have terrible taste in movies. Should I check it out?

[chris1152]

Haven't seen the regular version yet. Too many people claimed it was too slow. But too many people have terrible taste in movies. Should I check it out?

Yes.

[airik625]

That is fucking awesome. This is why I didn't buy the one that came out, b/c I heard they were going to be coming out w/ a 2 disc special edition.

Any news on a release date yet?

[aminorthreat55]

Haven't seen the regular version yet. Too many people claimed it was too slow. But too many people have terrible taste in movies. Should I check it out?
Yes. It's better than Fight Club and Se7en.

[popdisaster00]

Yes. It's better than Fight Club and Se7en.
Better than those? For shits, I better pick it up then.

[Drew Beringer]

Badass cover, must own.

[aminorthreat55]

That is fucking awesome. This is why I didn't buy the one that came out, b/c I heard they were going to be coming out w/ a 2 disc special edition.

Any news on a release date yet?
January 8th.

[airik625]

Yes. It's better than Fight Club and Se7en.

This is a bit farfetched. The movie is excellent, but not as good as Fight Club and Se7en. I would say it is just as good or falls a little bit short. And that is saying something.

[drudo182]

Haven't seen the regular version yet. Too many people claimed it was too slow. But too many people have terrible taste in movies. Should I check it out?

This is Finchers masterpiece. Yes, check it out.

Robert Downey Jr. and Gyllenhaal are great in it.

One of my favorites of 2007.


And yes, this is Fincher's best film followed by Se7en. Next I'd put Fight Club, Panic Room, The Game, and Alien 3.

I think The Game is a great film and overlooked by too many people. It doesn't get enough credit. Same with Panic Room.

[motioncity182]

the cover looks so awesome.
this was one of my favorite movies this year.

[Prestonxsmith]

The only problem I had with this movie was that after the killings stopped, it just moved sooooooooooo slow. But it had amazing acting that somewhat made up for it.

[IAmNietzche]

The Game > Se7en > Zodiac > Fight Club > Panic Room > Alien 3

[AShannon04]

I bought the original version when it came out on DVD and am now kinda regretting it.

[popdisaster00]

This is Finchers masterpiece. Yes, check it out.

Robert Downey Jr. and Gyllenhaal are great in it.

One of my favorites of 2007.


And yes, this is Fincher's best film followed by Se7en. Next I'd put Fight Club, Panic Room, The Game, and Alien 3.

I think The Game is a great film and overlooked by too many people. It doesn't get enough credit. Same with Panic Room.
Agreed with Panic Room. Forest Whitaker, like always, was awesome in it.

[TJ Wells]

Still in my top 5 of the year. When does this come out?

[TJ Wells]

I wasn't a big fan of the Game, but Panic Room is CRIMINALLY underrated.

[airik625]

I want this now!

[TJ Wells]

If I had to rank Fincher's films i'd go:

Zodiac
Se7en
Panic Room
Fight Club
Alien 3
The Game

[airik625]

If I had to rank Fincher's films i'd go:

Zodiac
Se7en
Panic Room
Fight Club
Alien 3
The Game

Mine would looks something like:

Se7en
Fight Club
Zodia
Panic Room
The Game
Alien 3

note: the first three are all too close to really say for sure. Those three movies are some of my all time favorites. It is really hard placing one in front of the other, so more realistically it would look more like:

Zodiac/Se7en/Fight Club
The Game
Alien 3

[Thug_Nasty]

very good movie. not sure i would buy it though. i think its one of those movies you watch once and say damn that was good and then never watch it again

[krishasaheadake]

havent seen it yet. I think I'll watch it now

[aminorthreat55]

This is a bit farfetched.
Nope. It does a superior job telling a story that is far more difficult to communicate than either Se7en or Fight Club and is technically superior as well.

[aminorthreat55]

very good movie. not sure i would buy it though. i think its one of those movies you watch once and say damn that was good and then never watch it again
I would disagree with that as a generality. I could see someone not wanting to watch it multiple times, as it is not a film that has universal appeal. On the other hand, I think it has incredible replay value if you become even slightly emotionally or intellectually attached to the case. I've already seen it 3 or 4 times and will not hesitate to buy this when it comes out in January.

[TJ Wells]

Nope. It does a superior job telling a story that is far more difficult to communicate than either Se7en or Fight Club and is technically superior as well.
Agreed. And the rewatchability of it is insane.

[boldt_action]

I really need to see this.


I'll probably blind buy the 2-disc once it's released.

[Trainsaw]

so glad i didn't buy the first edition of it

[flipandbaker08]

this movie lost alot of steam about 3/4 in

[drudo182]

If I had to rank Fincher's films i'd go:

Zodiac
Se7en
Panic Room
Fight Club
Alien 3
The Game

I agree minus The Game. I am so close to sticking Panic Room above Fight Club. Such a great thriller.

I felt Jared Leto owned that movie. Yoakum was a bastard too and I loved it. He plays that part so well. Did a great job of being a bastard in Sling Blade too.

[notoaststereo]

The Game > Se7en > Zodiac > Fight Club > Panic Room > Alien 3

for me its

Se7en > Fight Club > The Game > Zodiac > Panic Room > Alien 3

[drudo182]

I'd like to find that one person who thinks Alien 3 is his best.

Not a bad film, but not the Fincher we all are used to now.

[reductiondesign]

I'd rank:

Zodiac > Panic Room > Fight Club > Se7en > The Game. Forget Alien 3.

And this is such an awesome DVD cover--I just hope to God it's not a keepcase. Bring on the digipak.

[bduke13]

I agree minus The Game. I am so close to sticking Panic Room above Fight Club. Such a great thriller.

I felt Jared Leto owned that movie. Yoakum was a bastard too and I loved it. He plays that part so well. Did a great job of being a bastard in Sling Blade too.

Panic Room has a great cast. Whitaker, Foster and Kristen Stewart were also great

[krishasaheadake]

"before I kill you, I'm going to throw your baby out the window."

woaah fuckin creepy

[Chemical Love]

I need to check out Zodiac. I heard it was horrible, but its getting lots of praise in here so I'm gonna check it out now.

[aminorthreat55]

I need to check out Zodiac. I heard it was horrible, but its getting lots of praise in here so I'm gonna check it out now.
Anyone who rates it on the bad end of the spectrum is an idiot.

[TMS2787]

Wow. What a sweet cover art. I'm going to be buying this when it came out, I didn't buy the regular one because I knew the SE was coming someday.

[Bob Payne]

Great film. I have the original version on DVD, but I will definitely buy this whenever it comes out. Whoever said it was in their top five for 2007, I wholeheartedly agree.

[TJ Wells]

Panic Room has a great cast. Whitaker, Foster and Kristen Stewart were also great
Kristen Stewart is a ridiculously underrated actress. She's great in this, Into The Wild, even In The Land Of Women (pretty much the only good thing about that movie). Hopefully she gets better roles in the future.

[airik625]

I'd rank:

Zodiac > Panic Room > Fight Club > Se7en > The Game. Forget Alien 3.

And this is such an awesome DVD cover--I just hope to God it's not a keepcase. Bring on the digipak.

That wold be awesome if it is a digipak like the special edition of fight club.

I don't see how you can rank Panic Room before Se7en and Fight Club.

[aminorthreat55]

That wold be awesome if it is a digipak like the special edition of fight club.

I don't see how you can rank Panic Room before Se7en and Fight Club.
It would be sweet if it was actually like an envelope that opened in the back with two keepcases inside like actual piece of paper in an envelope. Although I suspect it will be just a figure 8 keepcase, which I am fucking tired of.

[airik625]

It would be sweet if it was actually like an envelope that opened in the back with two keepcases inside like actual piece of paper in an envelope. Although I suspect it will be just a figure 8 keepcase, which I am fucking tired of.

That would be bad ass.

[reductiondesign]

That wold be awesome if it is a digipak like the special edition of fight club.

I don't see how you can rank Panic Room before Se7en and Fight Club.

This is proof of how underrated Panic Room is.

[airik625]

This is proof of how underrated Panic Room is.

Panic Room is a great film, don't get me wrong, but Fight Club and Se7en are superior to Panic Room.

Se7en and Fight Club are in an upper echelon compared to Panic Room, and I really liked Panic Room.

[drudo182]

I want' to watch Panic Room but I left it at home... Just have to grab it over Thanksgiving break.

Lame. I have every other Fincher movie with me too.

[reductiondesign]

Panic Room is a great film, don't get me wrong, but Fight Club and Se7en are superior to Panic Room.

Se7en and Fight Club are in an upper echelon compared to Panic Room, and I really liked Panic Room.

:shrug:

To each their own.

I think Fincher just gets better and better--The Game was the only time he went downhill. And, for the record, I loved The Game.

[drudo182]

:shrug:

To each their own.

I think Fincher just gets better and better--The Game was the only time he went downhill. And, for the record, I loved The Game.

I agree with you on Panic Room. No doubt about that.

[ryaosin]

according to http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=65957, here's what the special edition will have:


Commentary by Director David Fincher
Commentary by Jake Gyllenhall, Robert Downey Jr., Producer Brad Fischer, James Vanderbilt and James Ellroy
Zodiac Deciphered
The Visual Effects of Zodiac
Digital Workflow
Sequence Breakdowns:
Blue Rock Springs
Lake Berryessa
San FranciscoTrailers and TV spots
The Facts:
This is the Zodiac Speaking
Lake Herman Road
Blue Rock Springs
Lake Berryessa
San Francisco
Prime Suspect:
His Name Was Arthur Leigh Allen
Linguistic Analysis
Jeopardy Surface: Geographic Profiling (6:30 video)
Dr. Kim Rossmo's Geographic Profile of the Zodiac (text-based)
The Psychology of Aggression: Behavioral Profiling (5:30 video)
Special Agent Sharon Pagaling-Hagan's Behavioral Profile of the Zodiac (text-based)

[drudo182]

Whoah. That sounds insane.

I still need to get the Panic Room SE.... I dont know if it's even out anymore though.

[airik625]

Awesome. Gosh, I can't wait until this comes out.

[drudo182]

Just read its only five minutes longer than the theatrical cut.

[mutualaddiction]

This film is no where near as good as Fight Club or Se7en, IMHO. Still a good movie, but hardly an original topic. Highly recommended, Fincher doesn't disappoint.

[EnderDove]

I finally got to see this last night, fantastic. I knew I would like it because Fincher and because it's about Zodiac, but it was great overall. In the scene where Zodiac killed the couple by the lake, I felt bad about watching because it felt so damn real. Which is a sign they did something very right.

I can see how many people would say it moves to slow, but those are the people who want to go to a movie for ninety minutes and see explosions or horrible punch lines. This is the first movie I have seen in a very long time that truly had suspense. When Graysmith was in the basement and the whole scene leading up to it, my heart rate was through the roof. I could actually feel it going faster and faster to the point I was trying to calm myself down.

The movie built and built and it was damn near perfect. One of the best movies I've seen and the SE has now been added of my list to get soon.

[EnderDove]

This film is no where near as good as Fight Club or Se7en, IMHO. Still a good movie, but hardly an original topic. Highly recommended, Fincher doesn't disappoint.

Did you go into it thinking it would be original? In no way could it be, otherwise it wouldn't be doing the story justice.

Fight Club wasn't too "original", for a movie that is.

Fight Club and Se7en have been near the top of my list for a long, long time, but this one went past both of them for me.

[aminorthreat55]

I finally got to see this last night, fantastic. I knew I would like it because Fincher and because it's about Zodiac, but it was great overall. In the scene where Zodiac killed the couple by the lake, I felt bad about watching because it felt so damn real. Which is a sign they did something very right.

I can see how many people would say it moves to slow, but those are the people who want to go to a movie for ninety minutes and see explosions or horrible punch lines. This is the first movie I have seen in a very long time that truly had suspense. When Graysmith was in the basement and the whole scene leading up to it, my heart rate was through the roof. I could actually feel it going faster and faster to the point I was trying to calm myself down.

The movie built and built and it was damn near perfect. One of the best movies I've seen and the SE has now been added of my list to get soon.
The incredible thing is that even if you know just a little bit or even a ton about the case, you're still on the edge of your seat and completely involved the entire time, something which takes a tremendous amount of skill for a director to accomplish.

[EnderDove]

The incredible thing is that even if you know just a little bit or even a ton about the case, you're still on the edge of your seat and completely involved the entire time, something which takes a tremendous amount of skill for a director to accomplish.

Exactly! I'm making my parents watch it tonight, both know nothing about Zodiac at all, so it should be interesting. I told my mom I knew quite a bit about the case, but the more the film went on, the more I became involved and really felt suspense for the first time in a very long time.

[mutualaddiction]

Did you go into it thinking it would be original? In no way could it be, otherwise it wouldn't be doing the story justice.

Fight Club wasn't too "original", for a movie that is.

Fight Club and Se7en have been near the top of my list for a long, long time, but this one went past both of them for me.

No I guess not, but thats why I was disappointed in Fincher, for tackling a subject that has already been made into a movie, more than once. Don't get me wrong, I love the movie, I guess I just have a soft spot for his older work.

How is Fight Club not original? I know the split personality thing has been done before, but that isn't even what makes the movie good to me.

[EnderDove]

No I guess not, but thats why I was disappointed in Fincher, for tackling a subject that has already been made into a movie, more than once. Don't get me wrong, I love the movie, I guess I just have a soft spot for his older work.

How is Fight Club not original? I know the split personality thing has been done before, but that isn't even what makes the movie good to me.

Yes, it was done before. In the book. So if Zodiac wasn't original because people are familiar with it and it's been done before; Fight Club isn't that original due to those reading the book knowing everything that would happen in the film.

If thats the case with Zodiac, it must be the case with Fight Club. Both are fantastic, but going by the same logic, neither are original.

[aminorthreat55]

Yes, it was done before. In the book. So if Zodiac wasn't original because people are familiar with it and it's been done before; Fight Club isn't that original due to those reading the book knowing everything that would happen in the film.

If thats the case with Zodiac, it must be the case with Fight Club. Both are fantastic, but going by the same logic, neither are original.
Or like he said, the split personality thing, e.g. Persona.

[airik625]

Just watched this movie yet again. I agree w/ "Ender Dove" when he said how real the scene felt when the couple was murdered(except the dude lived) how real it felt. I think what makes the movie so awesome too is the infamy of the story. A lot of people don't like the ending b/c they don't feel it provided "closure" but I think that is what makes it so great. The case is still remains open and the only true lead they had is dead.

Everytime I see the ending where Jake Gyllenhal looks Leigh in the eyes, I always feel that Leigh knows that he knows something and shoots him this glance that makes me so mad, b/c I know it has to be him and he knows it. There are very few movies that can make you feel like that.

This can not come out soon enough.

[mutualaddiction]

Yes, it was done before. In the book. So if Zodiac wasn't original because people are familiar with it and it's been done before; Fight Club isn't that original due to those reading the book knowing everything that would happen in the film.

If thats the case with Zodiac, it must be the case with Fight Club. Both are fantastic, but going by the same logic, neither are original.

The fact that it was a book before isn't what makes it an unoriginal topic, a lot of very original movies are based on books. The fact that there have been more than one movie made about the zodiac killer, and other similar serial killers, before this one was made does make it an unoriginal topic.

I still liked the movie, its probably better than other movies on the same topic, but I just like Fight Club and Se7en a lot more, obviously our opinions differ.

[EnderDove]

The fact that it was a book before isn't what makes it an unoriginal topic, a lot of very original movies are based on books. The fact that there have been more than one movie made about the zodiac killer, and other similar serial killers, before this one was made does make it an unoriginal topic.

I still liked the movie, its probably better than other movies on the same topic, but I just like Fight Club and Se7en a lot more, obviously our opinions differ.

For me, having it be a movie based on a serial killer doesn't make it at all unoriginal because there have been others focused on serial killers. The killer's identity was not known, where as most serial killer movies simply focuses on the killer themselves.

Do I think a movie can't be original because the book came first? No. But I wouldn't say Fight Club itself was original, maybe it's because I love the book so much. One thing is for sure, I love the movie, too.

Have there been movies based on the Zodiac killer, of course. Does that make this movie unoriginal, in a sense yes, but it seemed like you said a drawback of the movie was that it wasn't original, even though and it had no chance to be if it were to contain facts.

Do we disagree, maybe, or we just don't know exactly what the other is trying to say. Either way, no hard feelings, especially since you enjoy good movies.

[aminorthreat55]

The fact that people failed miserably to tell the same story earlier should have no bearing on whether or not Zodiac is "original." Besides, the notion that a topic can only be depicted once before it is rendered "unoriginal", I think is quite misguided. I think the combination of story and execution is what should be taken into account, not just one or the other.

[mutualaddiction]

For me, having it be a movie based on a serial killer doesn't make it at all unoriginal because there have been others focused on serial killers. The killer's identity was not known, where as most serial killer movies simply focuses on the killer themselves.

Do I think a movie can't be original because the book came first? No. But I wouldn't say Fight Club itself was original, maybe it's because I love the book so much. One thing is for sure, I love the movie, too.

Have there been movies based on the Zodiac killer, of course. Does that make this movie unoriginal, in a sense yes, but it seemed like you said a drawback of the movie was that it wasn't original, even though and it had no chance to be if it were to contain facts.

Do we disagree, maybe, or we just don't know exactly what the other is trying to say. Either way, no hard feelings, especially since you enjoy good movies.

Thanks.

Have you read the rest of Palahniuk's books? I'm very excited for the Choke movie adaptation thats coming out next year, even though I'm sure it won't be as good as I hope.

[EnderDove]

Thanks.

Have you read the rest of Palahniuk's books? I'm very excited for the Choke movie adaptation thats coming out next year, even though I'm sure it won't be as good as I hope.

I've read Choke, Lullaby, Survivor, Fight Club and I have Haunted, just haven't got to it yet.

[matt_rawlings]

Seven>FightClub>Zodiac>>>Alien 3>The Game>Panic Room

[aminorthreat55]

Tuesday!

[drudo182]

Pumped for the new set because of all the bonus stuff.

[airik625]

Pumped for the new set because of all the bonus stuff.

Me too, I love bonus features.

[gloriousmuse]

People actually like this film? What a surprise. I found it very slow at times. Interesting story, especially when the killer was involved with the letters and killings. But after that ended, it should have stopped. No more investigations.

[drudo182]

It remained my number one film of 2007.

[Bob Payne]

I can't wait to get this.

[aminorthreat55]

People actually like this film? What a surprise. I found it very slow at times. Interesting story, especially when the killer was involved with the letters and killings. But after that ended, it should have stopped. No more investigations.
No.

[gloriousmuse]

No.
Awesome, well thanks.

[reductiondesign]

Fantastic film.

Fincher's best, I'd say.

[TheDemosRock]

Haha, I was going to say I didn't think anyone but me enjoyed this movie.
I can see that I'm not alone!

YAYYYY Zodiac

[gonz]

Still haven't seen this movie. I might blind-buy this special edition DVD.

I kind of have a man-crush on Downey, Jr.

[airik625]

Still haven't seen this movie. I might blind-buy this special edition DVD.

I kind of have a man-crush on Downey, Jr.

Do it. You will not be disappointed. If you like David Fincher's other movies like Fight Club, Se7en, Panic Room, and the Game then you will love this movie. Definitely get it.

[aminorthreat55]

Only 22.99 at Best Buy today, which is awesome for a special edition of a new movie.

[Ailite]

I'll pick it up this weekend, I can't wait to watch the commentary

[drudo182]

I'm disappointed by the price of the DVD, plus with BluRay pretty much winning the HD war, I think I'll start holding off to save up for a new player and for whenever this comes out on that format.

Have the regular edition right now. Might netflix the 2nd disc though to tide me over.

[bowl of oranges]

the packaging for this looks really cool

[Trainsaw]

i bought it today, then like an idiot let my friend borrow it

[TMS2787]

I bought it and the cover art is sweet but I think it would've been neater had it been like a fold-out package or something. Oh well I'm still glad I own it now.

[Trainsaw]

I bought it and the cover art is sweet but I think it would've been neater had it been like a fold-out package or something. Oh well I'm still glad I own it now.

yeah i was disappointed by that...two generic cover dvd's and inside w/ no booklet or anything, seems like a bit of a ripoff but oh well great movie

[TMS2787]

yeah i was disappointed by that...two generic cover dvd's and inside w/ no booklet or anything, seems like a bit of a ripoff but oh well great movie
It is a great movie. Are you suprised there isn't an insert? 99% of DVDs no longer come with them and are generic disc art. It's annoying. It seems like the standards for DVDs went down hill, real quick. It really get pissed. But what can I do about it? Because I can't not buy the movies I love enough to own. Oh well, I'm going to get back to the movie.

Animal crackers?

[-Aaron-]

Criterion DVD's always come with a booklet with stories, reviews, and other random tidbits about the movie. Plus a lot of their boxart look sweet.

[Trainsaw]

It is a great movie. Are you suprised there isn't an insert? 99% of DVDs no longer come with them and are generic disc art. It's annoying. It seems like the standards for DVDs went down hill, real quick. It really get pissed. But what can I do about it? Because I can't not buy the movies I love enough to own. Oh well, I'm going to get back to the movie.

Animal crackers?

i'm not surprised regular $14.99 dvd's (price usually on release tuesday) don't come w/ them. But w/ a 2-disc directors cut edition i kinda expected something more

[TMS2787]

i'm not surprised regular $14.99 dvd's (price usually on release tuesday) don't come w/ them. But w/ a 2-disc directors cut edition i kinda expected something more
Good point.

[SteveLikesMusic]

This is on the list of movies I havn't seen but need to.

[aminorthreat55]

Criterion DVD's always come with a booklet with stories, reviews, and other random tidbits about the movie. Plus a lot of their boxart look sweet.
Or even when they include the screenplay (Two-Lane Blacktop) or the book the screenplay was adapted from (The Man Who Fell to Earth).

[nfgluver1423]

i didn't even release the 2 disc came out yet! i'm definitely getting it tomorrow.

i loved the movie.. a lot. we went to see it for school last year and everyone in my class hated it except me.. but i thought it was awesome. i've been waiting for the special edition to come out though cause i didn't wanna buy it twice.

[airik625]

Excellent buy, too bad it didn't come in packaging similar to either Se7en or the Fight Club 2 disc special edition.

[Trainsaw]

i'm going to kill some mofo, i loaned him my damn movie a week ago, and the SOB has yet to even watch it

[airik625]

i'm going to kill some mofo, i loaned him my damn movie a week ago, and the SOB has yet to even watch it

Definitely kill that mother fucker.

[zubinmoosa]

Finally getting around to seeing this movie. Heard a lot of good things, gonna spin it tonight

[bard]

this is quickly climbing my list of the best movie of the last decade.

[narcoleptic953]

Movie is fucking great.

[bard]

I've been watching this with the commentary again, and the special features.

This is without a doubt the best movie of the decade, and it's definitely the best movie I've ever seen.

[flask]

I've been watching this with the commentary again, and the special features.

This is without a doubt the best movie of the decade, and it's definitely the best movie I've ever seen.

i love the commentary for this.
"the moral of story for moby dick is, dont fuck with the white whale"

[bard]

i love the commentary for this.
"the moral of story for moby dick is, dont fuck with the white whale"
lol, yeah that was great.

fincher is such an interesting guy.

[Dr. Acula]

Love this movie...still feel its way underrated. Also, opening song in the movie "Hurdy Gurdy Man" is so fucking creepy. Brilliantly used.

[bard]

Perfect film.

Period.

[Thomas Balkcom]

haven't watched this since it first came out on DVD. I need to change that soon.

[Chemical Love]

I was surprised at how good it was. Really like this movie.

[drudo182]

Easily my favorite Fincher movie.

[bard]

Due to the recent poll, which everyone should go vote for, I can't help but bump this thread.

I can't say enough about it. It's perfect. I need to finally buy a BluRay player just so I can buy this again.

[meeotch]

I really need to step it up and get the 2-disc.

[deadkidsean]

Sucks so bad that the Blu-ray Disc is always so fucking expensive everywhere.

[bard]

The 2-disc is SO worth it. Just take the plunge and enjoy the documentaries included.

[batmannj]

Nice bump, I still can't get over how good and how interesting this movie was.

What all is on this 2 disc? and I'm assuming it's worth a pick up?

[airik625]

The packaging had so much promise. Still disappoints me.