Best Country

[captainhampton]

Do you feel that the US is the greatest nation on earth? If so, why? If you disagree, state why and what country or countries you consider to be the best. also, when explaining why, discuss what criteria are important for you when deciding the best countries.

[Shatter590]

Do you feel that the US is the greatest nation on earth? If so, why? If you disagree, state why and what country or countries you consider to be the best. also, when explaining why, discuss what criteria are important for you when deciding the best countries.

lol, can this be any more loaded?

personally, id rather live in ireland or england, or at least in Europe. My biggest gripe with the US is how its basically become not just a service based economy, but that its beholden to corporate power. Since I abhor corporate business, Id rather not try to buck the system, and would just relocate.

[captainhampton]

lol, can this be any more loaded?

personally, id rather live in ireland or england, or at least in Europe. My biggest gripe with the US is how its basically become not just a service based economy, but that its beholden to corporate power. Since I abhor corporate business, Id rather not try to buck the system, and would just relocate.

this thread is just for fun. i'm aware a lot won't like the way i phrased the question.

[Shatter590]

this thread is just for fun. i'm aware a lot won't like the way i phrased the question.

lol. this is true.

what's your take on it?

[captainhampton]

lol. this is true.

what's your take on it?

i've only been out of the country once and don't know enough about other countries around the world, so obviously i will go with the US. I like the fact that you can come from nothing and achieve success in this country. I'd like to visit Australia. Great weather and such low crime rates. everyone i know that has visited has loved it. Crime rates is a major factor for me and that is one of the major cons of the US.

[Shatter590]

i've only been out of the country once and don't know enough about other countries around the world, so obviously i will go with the US. I like the fact that you can come from nothing and achieve success in this country. I'd like to visit Australia. Great weather and such low crime rates. everyone i know that has visited has loved it. Crime rates is a major factor for me and that is one of the major cons of the US.

Canada also has a low crime rate. Ive heard its very similar to australia.

one thing that i worry about is unemployment. While the US rate hovers at around 4-6%, the time between jobs averages 6-9 months (if not more). And sometimes unemplyoment runs out before a job is found. I think more needs to be done in that regard. I remember when i was living in Toronto with my fiancee, the rate was 11%, but turnaround was 90 days or less.

[captainhampton]

Canada also has a low crime rate. Ive heard its very similar to australia.

one thing that i worry about is unemployment. While the US rate hovers at around 4-6%, the time between jobs averages 6-9 months (if not more). And sometimes unemplyoment runs out before a job is found. I think more needs to be done in that regard. I remember when i was living in Toronto with my fiancee, the rate was 11%, but turnaround was 90 days or less.

I'll favor Australia because I don't think I could handle that Canadian weather.

[Shatter590]

I'll favor Australia because I don't think I could handle that Canadian weather.

they're extreme opposites. One is frigid, one is intense.

Id go with Canada. Comparable exchange rate to US currency, easy access to family.

[atticus1492]

No.

My reason? See: The Hills.

[Shatter590]

No.

My reason? See: The Hills.

you get +1000 scene points for your reply, and +1000 dork points for the L avatar.

[atticus1492]

you get +1000 scene points for your reply, and +1000 dork points for the L avatar.

Is obsessing over Anime dorky?

Shit.

[Love As Arson]

i've only been out of the country once and don't know enough about other countries around the world, so obviously i will go with the US.
That is terrible reasoning. It would be similar to an individual drawing a conclusion about which restaurant is the best in their town without going to any of them.

I like the fact that you can come from nothing and achieve success in this country.
Other countries have more social mobility than the United States. Canada and Norway would be good examples.

As for my opinion, it is ridiculous to rate countries in such a manner.

[Shatter590]

Is obsessing over Anime dorky?

Shit.

lol, last i checked it was

[Justin_stacy]

That is terrible reasoning. It would be similar to an individual drawing a conclusion about which restaurant is the best in their town without going to any of them..

Exactly.

[rikfrommf]

Americans call football soccer. end of story.

[airik625]

Power wise= Yes
Economy wise= New Zealand ftw.

[airik625]

Agreed.

American sports are shit.

The only good one is Hockey and that's Canadian.

Hockey is the worst sport ever imagined.

[captainhampton]

Agreed.

American sports are shit.

The only good one is Hockey and that's Canadian.

football>>>>>>soccer.

[captainhampton]

Captain Hampton proves yet again he is a total moron.

America is the most powerful without a doubt.

But it isn't the best on healthcare, education, social rights, living standards, corruption, culture etc.. and since those are the measures by which I wish to judge a country then I went with no.

the US has the best doctors in the world. UK has a terrible cancer survival rate. great health care you have.

[captainhampton]

You mean pussies attempting Rugby?

Nah I don't think so.

Also saying American sports suck is the easiest and most effective flame bait going. So many losers fall for it every time.

pussies? NFL football players are pussies? HAHA. most ignorant thing you've ever said on this site. and that is saying something. you have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

[aminorthreat55]

No. Outside of the United States I've only actually been to Canada, but in my experience I would prefer Canada. From what I've read and from what my relatives have told me, Finland and Sweden are also much better countries.

[airik625]

You mean pussies attempting Rugby?

Nah I don't think so.

Also saying American sports suck is the easiest and most effective flame bait going. So many losers fall for it every time.

Hahaha, pussies? You are an idiot.

[captainhampton]

That is terrible reasoning. It would be similar to an individual drawing a conclusion about which restaurant is the best in their town without going to any of them.


Other countries have more social mobility than the United States. Canada and Norway would be good examples.

As for my opinion, it is ridiculous to rate countries in such a manner.

i admitted that my answer would be biased since i haven't been abroad.

i didn't say that the US was the only country you could go from nothing to wealth.

[aminorthreat55]

Hockey is the worst sport ever imagined.
Fuck off.

[captainhampton]

to add to lunchforthesky calling american football players pussies: at least when american football players go off on stretchers, they don't come back. they don't go off the field in a stretcher for getting kicked in the shin and then return after 30 seconds.

[EasySkankin]

"best" implies of the highest measure, but the highest measure of what? country? is that some unit? no, it isn't. You're oversimplifying. You have to specify best in what, exactly. Standard of living? Morality? Functionality of government? internal stability? wealth? amount of land? number of people killed? number of people saved?

I suggest a rewrite

PS has anyone else noticed that love as arson is pretty much right all the time?

[captainhampton]

What kinda of losers wear so much padding.

they should take it like men.

and that's before getting on to how pointlessly stop/start the game is.

Good sports flow properly and are continous like real football, rugby, hockey and basketball.

Although I personally don't care for basketball.
again, ignorance. the speed and hitting in football is so much more than rugby that they require pads. if the guys in the nfl were hitting each other without pads, they would get seriously injured. i respect rugby players, it's a tough sport, but the guys in the NFL are so much bigger and faster.

[captainhampton]

"best" implies of the highest measure, but the highest measure of what? country? is that some unit? no, it isn't. You're oversimplifying. You have to specify best in what, exactly. Standard of living? Morality? Functionality of government? internal stability? wealth? amount of land? number of people killed? number of people saved?

I suggest a rewrite

everyone has different criteria. which factors are most important to you.

[captainhampton]

Total crap.

And another thing that is shitty about American Football is that the players exist only to do one job.

Good sports involve the whole team contributing to everything together simultaneously.

not one guy to do every job.

this is supposed to be a sport not the fucking Ford factory.

it isn't total crap. you've never seen the size and speed differences with NFL players. obviously you've never seen a live football game.

" And another thing that is shitty about American Football is that the players exist only to do one job."

like goalies?

[EasySkankin]

haha well in that case, taking into account I am a marxist, the USA is among the worst imaginable states.

[airik625]

it isn't total crap. you've never seen the size and speed differences with NFL players. obviously you've never seen a live football game.

" And another thing that is shitty about American Football is that the players exist only to do one job."

like goalies?

Good call. So, according to his def. Soccer(football) doesn't constitute a sport.

[captainhampton]

Wrong again.



One player.

And he's still on the pitch all the time and acts in a similar manner to a defender at times and some even come up for corners in the last minutes.

which NFL game did you go to? explain how NFL football players are pussies and soccer players aren't?

[captainhampton]

and also American Football crowds are so lame and quiet compared with actual Football crowds.

Or they were when I went.

your crowds are awesome, i'll give you that.

[tambam]

Captain Hampton proves yet again he is a total moron.

America is the most powerful without a doubt.

But it isn't the best on healthcare, education, social rights, living standards, corruption, culture etc.. and since those are the measures by which I wish to judge a country then I went with no.

Agreed.

[Siren Silently]

Total crap.


Rugby players are athletically built with lean muscle. Football players on the otherhand are 300 pound steroid induced monsters that still run like trains and hit like one.

[Justin_stacy]

The only good one is Hockey and that's Canadian.

How unsuprising that you would pick the one sport worse then soccer......

[atticus1492]

Lol, an argument about the best country turns into an argument about sports.

[Love As Arson]

i admitted that my answer would be biased since i haven't been abroad.
My point was, an individual should not be making conclusions if they've not experienced other countries; otherwise you're not simply making biased statement, you are making unfounded statements.
i didn't say that the US was the only country you could go from nothing to wealth.
You labeled it as a reason you consider it as one of the best countries, however, statistics show that it is not the best in terms of social mobility.

[senatorlamb]

How unsuprising that you would pick the one sport worse then soccer......

:lol:

but seriously, America is the best. It has its flaws, but we have the capacity to fix them. I challenge anyone to show how any other country has contributed more to benefit the world than the good ol' USA. It may be easy to rag on America these days, but for every bad thing in our history, there has been an opposing, and inspiring force that has equally contributed to the evolution that is American democracy. Whether it be government, politics, science, engineering, architecture, art, entertainment, technology, media, business, and entrepreneurship etc... we have contributed greatly and consistently. Plus, the guy who created AP is American.

[senatorlamb]

That's total bullshit. A country like America has existed for 200 years has no way contributed as much or more than plenty other countries. Sure America has mattered for the past 100 years but previous to that ehh. Democracy was a good thing but even that was stolen from the Greeks and basic human nature plus like the Greeks you had slaves etc.. Really the Europeans were the first proper democracies as we abolished slavery first and Australia/New Zealand gave women the vote first.

It's just my opinion. Everyone should believe their country is the best. I'm not talking about jingoism or faux patriotism, I'm talking about pride in your country's accomplishments.

USA! USA! USA!

[captainhampton]

I don't believe in countries. I'm left wing.

you're not left wing

[Love As Arson]

Lamb, let us discern people from country. For example, I admire Martin Luther King, and the Civil Rights Movement, but, in no way, do I associate it with America. Further, one should take into consideration how others view one's country. So, for example, one should ask an El Salvadoran whether or not the US is the best country in the world. Invariably, they'll bring up death squads, and things of that nature, and then one can begin speaking about the vast accomplishments brought about at the same time.

[myantiyou]

What kinda of losers wear so much padding.

they should take it like men.

... what the fuck?

[EasySkankin]

I used to be a patriot, believing that a country could be superior to others...

Man I used to be an idiot. Now, I really don't understand patriotism.

[gloriousmuse]

i wouldnt consider the US a great country since it's been around for what, 250 or something years. Compare that age with a lot of other countries you will find that the US is still young and learning, and with youth comes mistakes that involve its people.

[catscradle]

and also American Football crowds are so lame and quiet compared with actual Football crowds.

Or they were when I went.

College football is where it's at if you want loud rowdy crowds. Go to a Gator game in the swamp or an LSU game at Death Valley and then tell me those crowds are lame and quiet.

NFL crowds = lame
NCAA crowds= madness

[EasySkankin]

Go to an international Columbian futbol game, and if the ref makes a bad call, he will get stabbed afterwards.

1-upped

[johnx]

How can one 'rate' a country when they've never been out of the one in which they currently live? I have no stance on this. All I know is the United States and I've never studied other countries' policies in depth to know if they are "better."

Maybe it's just me, but I don't like this thread idea.

[johnx]

I love football or soccer or whatever the hell you wanna call it. I wish I had still played. I gave it up around...10 years old. I should have kept going, I wasn't bad (yeah yeah shut up, I know 10 isn't that old but ya gotta start somewhere).

[Plodbax]

Define Best...

[billyboatkid]

No Canada is hahaha

[Plodbax]

North Korea FTW

[tambam]

How can one 'rate' a country when they've never been out of the one in which they currently live? I have no stance on this. All I know is the United States and I've never studied other countries' policies in depth to know if they are "better."

Maybe it's just me, but I don't like this thread idea.

Exactly. It's ridiculous.