Fall Out Boy secret show with Four Year Strong @ Mohawk Place in Buffalo, NY 11-19-07

[Merch_Mike]

First i wanna say that I couldn't believe how small the venue was. It looked/felt like the capacity was 150 ppl. There were also no barricades and no venue security, so doing anything was allowed and kinda encouraged. It was also cool to see that there were a fair amount of older ppl opposed to kids who fit under Rob Dobi's description of "#1 Pete Wentz Fan".
I was dying for Four Year Strong to come on stage since i was stuck standing around listening to retarded "elitest" fan girls bitching about Fall Out Boy fans. Here's one of the things I over heard them saying: "I wish this show was 18+ because these kids won't even know any of the songs off Take This To Your Grave since it came out in 2000".
TTTYG came out in 2000? that's news to me LOL

Four Year Strong went on first and they played:
(in no order)
Abandon Ship Or Abandon All Hope
Heroes Get Remembered, Legends Never Die
Catastrophe
Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Hell
Bada Bing! Wit A Pipe!
Beatdown In The Hey Of Happy
Maniac (R.O.D)

They were awesome. The stage room was extremely tiny for them because of having to set up their equipment in front of Fall Out Boy's and the stage is already small to begin with. All the band members were like performing too close to each other that there was barely any space at all for them to rock out. They finally got the crowd into it starting from the 2nd last song.
On a side note, they have really cool merch at low prices.

Fall Out Boy was next. There were no stage props or banners. There was a camera crew around the whole venue filming the whole thing.
They played:

(in no order)
the entire Take This To Your Grave album
+
Walk (Pantera cover featuring Keith Buckley from Every Time I Die on vocals)

OH MY GOD, can't believe how amazing this show was! It got pretty violent: Stage diving, hardcore dancing, pile-ons, everything! I would have never imagined being able to stage dive at a Fall Out Boy show now a days. All of the crowd action mentioned above was allowed and kinda encouraged. It actually felt like I was at a "hardcore" show. Plus, there was even pit beef just like at hardcore shows. Buffalo, NY kids take shit pretty serious since I saw 2 guys lying on the ground defenseless being stomped and punched by like 5 guys. A lot of the "#1 Pete Wentz Fan" girls didn't last long in the crowd at all. I was even more shocked to hear them play Pantera with Keith Buckley on vocals. It was Keith's birthday that day and Fall Out Boy gave a shout out to him + Every Time I Die. They also had a cake for him which ended up being thrown into his face then whatever was left was thrown into the crowd. The show ended pretty early too, like at 9:40pm.

In the end, it was a really amazing show and amazing experience being in the crowd for it. A ridiculous amount of energy throughout Fall Out Boy's set. I wish all Fall Out Boy shows were like this in regards to loose security, no barricades, and all out chaos.
This has to be one of the best shows I've ever attended in my whole life, and I've been to a ridiculous amount of concerts too.

p.s. Every one should go out and support Four Year Strong if they happen to be playing a show in a town near you. Really awesome, hard working, and nice band that deserves more attention. Pick up the CD too.
http://www.myspace.com/fouryearstrong

[squared82]

i am so jealous of you right now

[industrialbelt]

this hurts worse than bme pain olympics knowing that i missed this.

[emo_boo]

wow that actually really cool

[Hainzey X]

how much was a ticket ?

[summeroflike]

I was there. This was definitely the best show I have ever been to. FYS + TTTYG FOB? Perfect.

The crowd was crazy. Patrick almost got knocked over by crowd surfers, Joe stage dived. It was just amazing.

[bobby runs]

cant wait to see the video of this show. i will buy that dvd the second it goes on sale.

i wonder if theres a so cal date planned.

edit: theres a possibility for the 26th and 29th of this month. anyone in the la area know any small venue websites where that might be a possibility?

[shoelaces]

how did you hear about this show enough in advance to get a ticket? i'm not from the area and wouldn't have gone anyway, but i never know how these things work.

[phoenixinflames]

holy fuck

[Etrain4242]

wow that really is amazing. wish i could make it to one of these. maybe they will have one around here when they come up for kiss 108 jingle ball.

[offsetgroupie]

i wonder if theres a so cal date planned.

edit: theres a possibility for the 26th and 29th of this month. anyone in the la area know any small venue websites where that might be a possibility?


They've done secret shows before at Chain Reaction in Anaheim. I would doubt Chain would get another one, but who knows. Maybe The Alley in Fullerton? Troubador in LA?

[Merch_Mike]

how much was a ticket ?

$15 from ticketmaster

[asmolitor]

this hurts worse than bme pain olympics knowing that i missed this.

hey now. that's saying a lot.

[guitarliketom]

hhahhaahhaha
i wish i could hear them cover walk

[amysaurus]

how did you hear about this show enough in advance to get a ticket? i'm not from the area and wouldn't have gone anyway, but i never know how these things work.

I'm in the same situation. I always hear about these "secret shows" after the fact... except for the Brand New myspace secret show back in April.

[Hainzey X]

i'd also like to know how you hear about these kinds of things.

[GlassyLight]

Walk?

There have been precisely 0 bands so far that have done justice to that solo. (I'm looking at you, Avenged Sevenfold) - However, Buckley's probably one of the few in the 'scene' that i would trust doing Anselmo vocals. Sounds like a cool show.

Now bring out the kids who bitch that they sold out when they released 'evening with your girlfriend'.

[fueledbyiz]

holy shit.


that is all.

[dodge_3001]

amazing. i wish the show i'm going to tonight was this small of a venue

[AP_Punk]

Goddamn. You lucky bastard. Haha. That sounded like an awesome show.

[uberlou]

Fucking, eh. Lucky you.

I'm definitely keeping an eye out for a secret show here in SoCal. Aside from KROQ's Almost Acoustic Christmas last year (where they weren't that greeat), the only time i've caught 'em live was at their secret show at Chain Reaction back in May (where they were awesome). It seems like the smaller shows are the best way for me to experience this band.

[aaron401]

I'M SO JEALOUS.
and yeah, Four Year Strong are awesome live.

[SePaMc]

As far as secret shows, I'd keep an eye out for The Boardwalk in Orangevale and Slim's in SF. The Boardwalk is probably a little more likely than Slim's as its smaller, fits the no barricade style, and they played it on each of their smaller tours back in the day. The walls of the venue touch the stage, gear is loaded straight in from the bus, pretty sure the backstage is a couch in a hallway, and FOB always did a stellar job there.

Bahhhh. I wish they still played small tours :(

And did they really play EVERY song off TTTYG? Because as far as I know...they don't play The Pros and Cons of Breathing live. (I think it's that song). It's even mentioned on the enhanced part of the director's cut that they don't play it live.

edit: the 26th could be anywhere in socal, the 28th could be anywhere between socal and san jose. but its like ...5 days from now, so I'd imagined it would have come out before then.

[amysaurus]

If there really is going to be a show in Orangevale or San Francisco, it better be before I go back to Socal for school....

[The Database]

What name did they play under? Where did you get tickets? I hope so much they play in Sac.

[zubinmoosa]

they did play pros and cons and said it was the first and last time they played it live. Thats pretty special. They played under Schrute Farms, a reference to the office, which Pete mentions in his blog a lot so some fans got the hint. There are no news as of yet as to the next secret show if there will even be one.

PS If there is a recording of this and released on a dvd i would pay gigantic amounts of money for it

[The Database]

they did play pros and cons and said it was the first and last time they played it live. Thats pretty special. They played under Schrute Farms, a reference to the office, which Pete mentions in his blog a lot so some fans got the hint. There are no news as of yet as to the next secret show if there will even be one.

PS If there is a recording of this and released on a dvd i would pay gigantic amounts of money for it
Pete said they were going to do a "few" secret shows. Since a little while ago they played a Secret Show in LA hopefully they hit up the bay area this time.

[AEast317]

Holy Fucking Shit

[Merch_Mike]

i'm still in post-excitement from the show...
if you're able to find out about the west coast secret show, definitely do whatever you can to goto it! Best FOB experience you'll ever get in this time period!

At the Buffalo show i was at, there were some ppl who paid from $50-150 for a scalped ticket and said that it was worth every penny spent. After attending the show, i'd also agree that it would be worth spending an insane amount for a ticket if i had no way in.

[zubinmoosa]

did u drive from TO to buffalo! thats awesome, i would have gone but i had school...

[bobby runs]

i'm still in post-excitement from the show...
if you're able to find out about the west coast secret show, definitely do whatever you can to goto it! Best FOB experience you'll ever get in this time period!

At the Buffalo show i was at, there were some ppl who paid from $50-150 for a scalped ticket and said that it was worth every penny spent. After attending the show, i'd also agree that it would be worth spending an insane amount for a ticket if i had no way in.
if they play the whole cd, which is easily one of my top 10 favorites i would pay upwards to $150 at this moment. if i had a job i would pay at the most $500. i mean its a one in a lifetime opportunity to see your favorite band performing one your favorite cd's all the way through.

[Merch_Mike]

did u drive from TO to buffalo! thats awesome, i would have gone but i had school...

yes i did.
I finish class at 12:30 on Mondays so it worked out fine with me... either way i would have skipped school if it got in my way...

[Merch_Mike]

if they play the whole cd, which is easily one of my top 10 favorites i would pay upwards to $150 at this moment. if i had a job i would pay at the most $500. i mean its a one in a lifetime opportunity to see your favorite band performing one your favorite cd's all the way through.

yeah, thats exactly the way i felt. I definitely would have shelled out a lot of money for a ticket if i didn't have a way in.
I don't think i'll ever get the opportunity again to see them just play the entire TTTYG album... plus to see them perform a Pantera song with Keith Buckley from Every Time I Die too... such a rare opportunity!

[zubinmoosa]

I finish class at 12:30 on Mondays so it worked out fine with me... either way i would have skipped school if it got in my way...

That is so awesome. I did not have a ride, and tix were sold out, and I had seen Motion City Soundtrack the night b4, so I guess there were reasons I didn't go. Still, TTTYG is 1 of my favorite albums and to see that played in order in an intimate setting would have been incredible

[jorn444]

[quote=bobby runs;8054358]cant wait to see the video of this show. i will buy that dvd the second it goes on sale.

i wonder if theres a so cal date planned.

They played a secret show in SoCal last time, so I think it's only fair they do it in the bay area this time. Maybe Slims or American Music Hall in SF... actually if they play anywhere within a 5 hour radius, i'm down to make the drive lol.

[bobby runs]

[quote=bobby runs;8054358]cant wait to see the video of this show. i will buy that dvd the second it goes on sale.

i wonder if theres a so cal date planned.

They played a secret show in SoCal last time, so I think it's only fair they do it in the bay area this time. Maybe Slims or American Music Hall in SF... actually if they play anywhere within a 5 hour radius, i'm down to make the drive lol.
check the venues in that area. i already checked chain reaction and the alley and both dont have anything for the two open dates they might do it.

[Mike Kraft]

That sounds like an awesome show. The REAL FOB of the days past.

[wavegoodbye]

i'm still in post-excitement from the show...
if you're able to find out about the west coast secret show, definitely do whatever you can to goto it! Best FOB experience you'll ever get in this time period!

At the Buffalo show i was at, there were some ppl who paid from $50-150 for a scalped ticket and said that it was worth every penny spent. After attending the show, i'd also agree that it would be worth spending an insane amount for a ticket if i had no way in.

haha, i paid 75. i honestly never thought i would pay so much for a show ticket that was originally 15.. but it was totally worth it. now i am broke, but i can honestly say-i couldnt be happier. i mean, im sitting here watching youtube videos and cannot stop smiling!

[LV03]

Damn thats awesome!!!

[Merch_Mike]

haha, i paid 75. i honestly never thought i would pay so much for a show ticket that was originally 15.. but it was totally worth it. now i am broke, but i can honestly say-i couldnt be happier. i mean, im sitting here watching youtube videos and cannot stop smiling!

you know exactly what i'm talking about :-)

all the chaotic crowd interaction made the show a good experience..

[xXHerpecoreXx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhR3AwGIH8I

[underdawg1119]

I think we're all overlooking the coolest bit of news here....I share a birthday with Keith Buckley. Awesome.

[golfchick]

That's awesome, I know someone who was there and apparently it was pretty ridiculous. I saw them in '05 and its still my best FOB experience so its always good memories listenning to TTTYG but live at this time must have been awesome! Oh Chicago is so two year ago...

[SandManTEND13]

was there special merch for this show? I was wish i was there to see the show. I hope the dvd comes out soon

[SteveLikesMusic]

I live in buffalo and found about this too late....fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

[zubinmoosa]

is there a dvd?

[Merch_Mike]

was there special merch for this show? I was wish i was there to see the show. I hope the dvd comes out soon

They only had a limited selection of merch from their current tour. There wasn't any special merch for the show.

[Villanova1L]

If I lived in Buffalo and missed this I'd kill myself, seriously

[patriots_fan71]

^^ That's kind of....disturbing.

I'm glad you dont live in buffalo, or else you wouldn't be around!

But death is no joke at this time, or really anytime...

[kylecrowe]

is there a dvd?
nothing announced yet.

i saw fob at the metro in february, a bigger venue than this (400ish) but still very small, and they also didnt play just TTTYG, only about 7 songs from that, then a good amount of FUCT. but still, one of the best concerts ive ever seen

[ACA]

New FOB > old FOB

..by a lot.

-ACA

[TLPvocals]

new and old FOB are equally amazing, just different eras and levels of popularity

[altemose09]

lucky

[notoaststereo]

awesome

[kylecrowe]

new and old FOB are equally amazing, just different eras and levels of popularity
this guy obviously knows what hes talking about

[Illuminate]

sounds awesome, but imo the take this to your grave album is fall out boy's worst album, but still sounds fun

[kylecrowe]

sounds awesome, but imo the take this to your grave album is fall out boy's worst album, but still sounds fun
worst album? either you have a problem with your ears or you just love pop music, maybe both.

[Illuminate]

worst album? either you have a problem with your ears or you just love pop music, maybe both.

or i have better taste in music than you do :)

musically under a cork and infinity on high are better albums. There's no arguments here. I admit to not being the biggest fall out boy fan, my taste varies from the pop music genre. Take this to your grave is an amateur record, I'm not saying it isn't good but like i said it doesn't reach the musical flexibility that the next two did. It's like comparing brand news's your favorite weapon to "deja" or "devil and god" the only way i can see you saying that yfw is better is if your a 12 year old kid and you don't understand the art of what deja and devil and god represent

[ijbet59]

or i have better taste in music than you do :)

musically under a cork and infinity on high are better albums. There's no arguments here. I admit to not being the biggest fall out boy fan, my taste varies from the pop music genre. Take this to your grave is an amateur record, I'm not saying it isn't good but like i said it doesn't reach the musical flexibility that the next two did. It's like comparing brand news's your favorite weapon to "deja" or "devil and god" the only way i can see you saying that yfw is better is if your a 12 year old kid and you don't understand the art of what deja and devil and god represent

for some reason i have to actually agree with you. take this to your grave is their worst album. infinity and under the cork tree are great records and take this to your grave is a weaker album

[Blamo]

or i have better taste in music than you do :)

musically under a cork and infinity on high are better albums. There's no arguments here. I admit to not being the biggest fall out boy fan, my taste varies from the pop music genre. Take this to your grave is an amateur record, I'm not saying it isn't good but like i said it doesn't reach the musical flexibility that the next two did. It's like comparing brand news's your favorite weapon to "deja" or "devil and god" the only way i can see you saying that yfw is better is if your a 12 year old kid and you don't understand the art of what deja and devil and god represent




Except Deja and Devil and God show a great deal of maturity on the lyrical front. There's a level of depth and passion in Brand New's lyrics that FOB would never be able to match--despite the similar era and sound both of their debut's share. But whatever.

[LV03]

nothing announced yet.

i saw fob at the metro in february, a bigger venue than this (400ish) but still very small, and they also didnt play just TTTYG, only about 7 songs from that, then a good amount of FUCT. but still, one of the best concerts ive ever seen

they played at the metro in feb!?! who did they play with?

and is the hush sound-fob secret show rumor true?

[Illuminate]

Except Deja and Devil and God show a great deal of maturity on the lyrical front. There's a level of depth and passion in Brand New's lyrics that FOB would never be able to match--despite the similar era and sound both of their debut's share. But whatever.

haha of course dont get me wrong dude, i am no way comparing the two bands i am however comparing the mix reactions towards the music from the fan point of view....


fall out boy will never EVER touch brand new

[kylecrowe]

they played at the metro in feb!?! who did they play with?

and is the hush sound-fob secret show rumor true?
they played with Hush and Powerspace

[LV03]

they played with Hush and Powerspace

was this a secret show? hmmm...bummer i missed out

[rewind0010]

I went to one of their concerts... they were kicking off the YWT tour in columbus, for what reason I will never understand, but anyway, I was suprised at how much old stuff they played too. I went with a bunch of my freinds, who were pretty much terrible and only knew thanks for the memories and sugar we're going down. The concert really was amazing, even though all of them were really dissapointed by it. I wish i could have been down on the floor, instead up in the stands, (some of the other girls were worried about mosh pits... psh.), it looked like alot of fun.
The show wasn't nearly as bad as they're made out to be...
And the plain white t's were absoloutely stunning before them!

[kylecrowe]

was this a secret show? hmmm...bummer i missed out
it wasnt necesarily secret, but they announced it just a few days before it took place

[kylecrowe]

I went to one of their concerts... they were kicking off the YWT tour in columbus, for what reason I will never understand, but anyway, I was suprised at how much old stuff they played too. I went with a bunch of my freinds, who were pretty much terrible and only knew thanks for the memories and sugar we're going down. The concert really was amazing, even though all of them were really dissapointed by it. I wish i could have been down on the floor, instead up in the stands, (some of the other girls were worried about mosh pits... psh.), it looked like alot of fun.
The show wasn't nearly as bad as they're made out to be...
And the plain white t's were absoloutely stunning before them!
i suppose im fine with you, but tell your friends to never go to a fob show again, they're the reason the shows are less fun

[kylecrowe]

or i have better taste in music than you do :)

musically under a cork and infinity on high are better albums. There's no arguments here. I admit to not being the biggest fall out boy fan, my taste varies from the pop music genre. Take this to your grave is an amateur record, I'm not saying it isn't good but like i said it doesn't reach the musical flexibility that the next two did. It's like comparing brand news's your favorite weapon to "deja" or "devil and god" the only way i can see you saying that yfw is better is if your a 12 year old kid and you don't understand the art of what deja and devil and god represent
when you grow up with a band, such as fall out boy or brand new, the first album of theirs is always going to be special. altough their next albums may be musically better it doesnt mean you will like them more, i am emotionally attached to Take This To Your Grave and there is nothing i can do about it, it was mostly what i listened to in 8th and 9th grade. plus TTTYG songs are much better live. Many long time brand new fans feel the same way about YFW im sure.

[Illuminate]

when you grow up with a band, such as fall out boy or brand new, the first album of theirs is always going to be special. altough their next albums may be musically better it doesnt mean you will like them more, i am emotionally attached to Take This To Your Grave and there is nothing i can do about it, it was mostly what i listened to in 8th and 9th grade. plus TTTYG songs are much better live. Many long time brand new fans feel the same way about YFW im sure.

hmm... i don't feel that way and i am a longtime brand new diehard- i mean as fun as it is to see yfw songs live, i much rather hear the new stuff- jesse lacey has formed his own art and its beautiful to watch

[DCfreak]

nope, I Want to hear TTYG and I want to hear YFW... the new stuff is by no means bad and yeah sure its musically better.. but i just do not like it as much. Is that so wrong?

[rewind0010]

i suppose im fine with you, but tell your friends to never go to a fob show again, they're the reason the shows are less fun
Haha, but at least they weren't on the floor with the real hardcore fans screaming like old women and avoiding crowd surfers like the plague.

[kylecrowe]

Haha, but at least they weren't on the floor with the real hardcore fans screaming like old women and avoiding crowd surfers like the plague.
this last fob tour was the worst. Moms ruined my expierence.

[Sandie-Jenkins]

i can't believe im saying this, but i wish i went to that fall out boy show haha.

[sdbrown]

this last fob tour was the worst. Moms ruined my expierence.
Hahaha, I went to the Young Wilds Things with my older sister and it was her first gen. admin. show and she got tired like, 20 minutes into it so we ended up standing by the 'mom' wall the entire night. It was hilarious to watch the mom's rocking out.