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takingbackrufio
11/02/03, 09:45 PM
Before everybody goes crazy, the title is not in relation to the board title. This post is just the only place where it fits.

Now, just so you know, I am a big fan of pop-punk, emo-punk, and everything punk, but hear me out here.

Coheed and Cambria. I love their music, I love their lyrics, and I love this band. But I have to say something about the singing. The vocals don't go with the music like they could.

Personally, I don't like his voice.

Yes, I know it's a guy.

jgirv17
11/02/03, 09:49 PM
hmm

see...for me,personally...the voice is what defines coheed and cambria.

take away claudio's voice and what do you have? generic riffs, at best, with some different lyrics...not much more.

the lyric content is different and a generic voice just wouldnt seem fitting.

mirtizzle
11/02/03, 11:31 PM
coheed is to me what brand new is to some people.. everyone loves them, but i just don't see what the big deal is..

13th hour
11/03/03, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by mirtizzle
coheed is to me what brand new is to some people.. everyone loves them, but i just don't see what the big deal is..

ISuckYoungBlood
11/03/03, 12:42 PM
Wow, that was the last thing I thought I would hear about them, Claudio is one of the few singers in the music Industry that actually can sing. In ym opinion the list is so small, Chino-deftones, Daryl-gj, Geoff-thursday, and the saves the day singer. Most other singers just sing without range, and emotion. Disagree if you like.


Coheed \m/

justcallmeliz
11/03/03, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by mirtizzle
coheed is to me what brand new is to some people.. everyone loves them, but i just don't see what the big deal is..

see i really like coheed a whole lot but i am not all that big on brand new i just prefer to not listen to them at all

piebaldkid42
11/04/03, 12:52 PM
i dont really know what the big deal about coheed is either?
i mean theyre okay but the claudios voice starts to annoy me after a while, but thats just me and i dont have the new cd so this is coming straight from the old cd

Touched
11/04/03, 02:09 PM
They're great, good guitar work and the singer has a unique voice and 2113 is class.

Shatter590
11/04/03, 03:44 PM
i think claudio's voice can get annoying after a while, but i more or less enjoy the lyrics and compisitioin. very few bands can do what coheed does.

towhatend
11/04/03, 10:28 PM
they suck.

vintagepunk
11/05/03, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by piebaldkid42
i dont really know what the big deal about coheed is either?
i mean theyre okay but the claudios voice starts to annoy me after a while, but thats just me and i dont have the new cd so this is coming straight from the old cd

see now its the exact opposite for me. I bought their first cd when it first came out on impulse not even heard anything they did. I took it home listened to it once and put it away for a few months then brought it back out. The more I listen to him the more I love his voice. C&C is now one of my favorite bands.

jgirv17
11/05/03, 06:21 AM
Originally posted by vintagepunk
see now its the exact opposite for me. I bought their first cd when it first came out on impulse not even heard anything they did. I took it home listened to it once and put it away for a few months then brought it back out. The more I listen to him the more I love his voice. C&C is now one of my favorite bands.

angie710
11/06/03, 12:29 PM
Caludio's vocals are what defines Coheed as a band... Like the backbone... He's penomenal...Coheed is phenomenal..If you havent already, get "In Keeping Secrets Of Silent Earth: 3" and listen to it in its entirety.. I guarantee you will at least walk away with a different perspective on them as a whole...

Personally, I've adored Coheed since the beginning... They are definitley an aquired taste and I can see how some of you may not be into it, but they are truthfully one of the most talented and diverse bands I've seen come along in a while...

Shatter590
11/06/03, 08:05 PM
hell, this is one of few cd's that i can listen to all day and never tire of.

Alex Djaferis
11/07/03, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by mirtizzle
coheed is to me what brand new is to some people.. everyone loves them, but i just don't see what the big deal is..

xnotedgex
11/07/03, 05:44 AM
Originally posted by ISuckYoungBlood
Wow, that was the last thing I thought I would hear about them, Claudio is one of the few singers in the music Industry that actually can sing. In ym opinion the list is so small, Chino-deftones, Daryl-gj, Geoff-thursday, and the saves the day singer. Most other singers just sing without range, and emotion. Disagree if you like.


Coheed \m/

one of the few singers in the music industry that can sing?????...you put up 4 guys, who's voices aren't even really all that great... out of everything i've ever read here, that takes the cake

Alex Djaferis
11/07/03, 06:01 AM
Originally posted by ISuckYoungBlood
Wow, that was the last thing I thought I would hear about them, Claudio is one of the few singers in the music Industry that actually can sing. In ym opinion the list is so small, Chino-deftones, Daryl-gj, Geoff-thursday, and the saves the day singer. Most other singers just sing without range, and emotion. Disagree if you like.


Coheed \m/

dude, there are so many singers in the industry that can kick the shit out of them in singing. im not saying there voices arent good (apart from std, i hate that voice)

brandon boyd - incubus
jim adkins - jimmy eat world
billie joe armstrong - green day (like it or not, this dude learnt how to sing pretty damn well as the years went on...listen to him live, its spot on)
dustin kensrue - thrice, he can sing really really well.

they are all in my opinion better then geoff, chino and chris...i havnt heard enough glassjaw to judge on that. Geoff chino and chris are all alright at what they do, but they are no where near as to be actual "good singers" in comparison the whole music industry.

that is my trashtalk ramble for the week. enjoy posting lol

angie710
11/07/03, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by PeeDster
dude, there are so many singers in the industry that can kick the shit out of them in singing. im not saying there voices arent good (apart from std, i hate that voice)

brandon boyd - incubus
jim adkins - jimmy eat world
billie joe armstrong - green day (like it or not, this dude learnt how to sing pretty damn well as the years went on...listen to him live, its spot on)
dustin kensrue - thrice, he can sing really really well.

they are all in my opinion better then geoff, chino and chris...i havnt heard enough glassjaw to judge on that. Geoff chino and chris are all alright at what they do, but they are no where near as to be actual "good singers" in comparison the whole music industry.

that is my trashtalk ramble for the week. enjoy posting lol


You forgot my husband, Nick Hexum of 311 my dear....:grin:

Alex Djaferis
11/07/03, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by angie710
You forgot my husband, Nick Hexum of 311 my dear....:grin:

oops my bad :) but i wouldnt be able to tell, as my knowledge of 311 is quite non-existant.

angie710
11/07/03, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by PeeDster
oops my bad :) but i wouldnt be able to tell, as my knowledge of 311 is quite non-existant.


You're forgiven.. Just dont let it happen again... ;)

MumblingMiles
11/07/03, 08:29 AM
Geoff's voice is my least favorite thing about Thursday, it's pretty weak. He's better when he screams.

takingbackrufio
11/07/03, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by MumblingMiles
Doesn't Claudio sing lower when he's singing from Coheed's perspective and higher when it's from Cambria's?


Claudio sings both high and low? Wow, I never knew that. That's what I call depth.

All I've heard is Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth 3 and his voice is mostly high in it. And the more I listen to the music I start liking it more and more, and have realized that Claudio's voice is what defines Co and Ca. I still think it's unfitting for the music. Maybe not.

MumblingMiles
11/07/03, 01:07 PM
Well...I wouldn't really know. I admit I've only heard him sing high. I like his vocals though.

nards228
11/07/03, 05:19 PM
I hated Coheed when I first got "In Keeping Secrets..." but after listening to them for a while (and giving them some playing time by request only), they've really started to grow on me. I think that some of the songs on that CD are pretty worthless, but I'm a big fan of "A Favor House Atlantic," "The Crowing," and "Blood Red Summer," among others.



Rennard

Shatter590
11/09/03, 03:39 PM
Good eye/sniper/i shoot/you run

jeezus, i can't stop listening to that song. it's so fucking awesome.

sgtslaughter
11/17/03, 02:29 AM
I dont know how anyone can stand his voice. I think its awful.

Lueda Alia
11/17/03, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by piebaldkid42
i dont really know what the big deal about coheed is either?
i mean theyre okay but the claudios voice starts to annoy me after a while, but thats just me and i dont have the new cd so this is coming straight from the old cd

Ditto. I've never really been into them...

angie710
11/17/03, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by sgtslaughter
I dont know how anyone can stand his voice. I think its awful.


You obvioulsy havent listened enough... His voice has amazing range....

Its beautiful....

Iheartboy.
11/17/03, 01:42 PM
Plain and simple, Coheed and Cambria is a great band because of their unique sound.

DriveTBSthru
11/22/03, 02:14 PM
I dont really like coheed and cambria that much. I dont know why everyone makes such a big deal with them., I saw them with glassjaw at krome and weren't that impressive.

xJbx
11/22/03, 08:43 PM
Claudio's malismas can't be touched by most singers. He's incredible.

sweetsugar
11/24/03, 02:21 PM
I dunno why that guy said Chino can sing....he whispers through most of the songs, then screams, then wispers. Chris from Saves the Day is a pretty good singer. Dustin Kensrue however is not...that guy hasn't sung anything that has impressed me. Jesus christ some peoples judgement on here is seriously messed up......................
and Nick Hexum........when does he ever actually sing. I mean he's good at what he does, but I wouldn't call it singing.

I'm a singer.....I know these things. It's what I do.

Used
11/27/03, 10:31 PM
For the one who started the thread: Do you not like his voice because it's different then anyone else's? Or because he actually knows what a beat is? lol...

takingbackrufio
11/27/03, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Used
For the one who started the thread: Do you not like his voice because it's different then anyone else's? Or because he actually knows what a beat is? lol... I started this thread, thatnk you very much. Why don't I like Claudio's voice? Well, basically it's an opinion, something that I hear and just don't like listening to. I'm a singer, so I respect that this guy can sing this high. But to listen to everything else at the same time? I find it hard to respect what the band is playing musically when the vocals are so high, unusual, and infecting.

pUnkKid174
12/13/03, 05:45 PM
I started this thread, thatnk you very much. Why don't I like Claudio's voice? Well, basically it's an opinion, something that I hear and just don't like listening to. I'm a singer, so I respect that this guy can sing this high. But to listen to everything else at the same time? I find it hard to respect what the band is playing musically when the vocals are so high, unusual, and infecting.
wow.....strong words buddy.....

takingbackrufio
12/13/03, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by pUnkKid174
wow.....strong words buddy..... Thankyou, your words were well-thought as well for such a smart ass comment. I'm entitled to my opinion, and Claudio's voice is fucking annoying. Just because you are impressed by his estranged different ability of going pitches higher than most other singers doesn't mean I have to be impressed by it. You think he's an amazing singer. Well, I can't tell you he's a bad singer, but his style just isn't something that I can listen to. To tell you the truth, I don't even had In Keeping Secrets on CD, I have it on my computer, and I didn't take the courtesy to buy the cd because I can't see what all the hype is about. And don't even say that I can't appreciate good music or some bullshit like that ... I appreciate this music, it's good ... it's just not something i'd listen to because it's a matter of opinion and style. Claudio is a very talented writer and singer, I can't say anything against that, but I can say that it's not something I can listen to over and over again like everybody has been doing. I don't like something you do, get over it. It happens.

towhatend
12/13/03, 10:03 PM
have you ever heard of just not listening to it and leaving it at that? i don't listen to yellowcard but you don't see me writing 5 pages of bullshit as to why i don't like them.

jgirv17
12/14/03, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by towhatend
have you ever heard of just not listening to it and leaving it at that? i don't listen to yellowcard but you don't see me writing 5 pages of bullshit as to why i don't like them.

Woody182
12/14/03, 02:12 PM
The fact that you like Rufio and FallOut Boy explain why you don't like Claudio's voice. It's different, yep, pretty crazy concept I know.

takingbackrufio
12/14/03, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Woody182
The fact that you like Rufio and FallOut Boy explain why you don't like Claudio's voice. It's different, yep, pretty crazy concept I know. Wow, people insulting bands I like now. How original. Get the fuck over it, I like those bands, and if your smart ass comment was concerning the fact that 'i had a narrow musical taste beacuse my avatar is fall out boy and my name includes the phrase 'rufio'' ... then that is the stupidest fucking thing i've ever heard. I like punk on all of its levels, but I don't like Coheed, period. Coheed is fucking pop-punk anyways, so what hell are you whining about me liking fall out boy for?

towhatend and jgirv17:

I'm just defending my views, thank you very much.

Woody182
12/14/03, 05:14 PM
I'm not quite sure why you continue to insist you like "punk" and feel one band is "pop-punk" while another isn't etc. I'm not sure if you've had the oppurtunity to see C&C live, but they are a rock band, nothing more. You don't have to like the music but how can you ask why someone does or what the big deal is? People like em, it's music, tastes differ.

towhatend
12/14/03, 05:23 PM
saying that c&c are pop punk plain and simple doesn't work. if you said that about fall out boy i would agree with you. C&C are miles ahead of a band like fall out boy and it shows.

takingbackrufio
12/14/03, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by towhatend
saying that c&c are pop punk plain and simple doesn't work. if you said that about fall out boy i would agree with you. C&C are miles ahead of a band like fall out boy and it shows. In your opinion, maybe. But not mine. I'm not insisting that everybody follow my musical tastes, if that's what you got out of my post Woody182, if that's what you thought. That's exactly what I'm against, Coheed and Cambria are a talented band and I totally understand why everybody enjoys their music and I respect them for what they have created, but I just don't like their style. It's just not me. The end.

jgirv17
12/15/03, 07:22 AM
^^Hey, my bad about the comment before.

It would be rather hypocritical of me to insult you for writing about disliking a band....considering I did it for Brand New.

To be honest....that was the same night I was really drunk (See "Dear Everyone" in General) and decided it was easier just quoting someone than trying to type something. Towhatend's post was the first one I saw so i just decided to quote it.

I'm an idiot.

pUnkKid174
12/15/03, 01:54 PM
didnt mean that as being mean at all, and it wasnt a smart ass comment. i didnt say that i was impressed by his "estranged different ability" to sing, let alone that he was an amazing singer.
i have some of ur opinions too about coheed and cambria. they arent one of my all out favorite bands that i can listen to over and over, because if i tried doing that i dont think i could. i admit that his voice is quite...high
In your opinion, maybe. But not mine. I'm not insisting that everybody follow my musical tastes, if that's what you got out of my post Woody182, if that's what you thought. That's exactly what I'm against, Coheed and Cambria are a talented band and I totally understand why everybody enjoys their music and I respect them for what they have created, but I just don't like their style. It's just not me. The end.
im not saying for anyone to follow my musical taste either. coheed and cambra are talented and its good that you are one of the few people who just dont trash good bands.
i respect that they're not your style too.
lol. neat story...

Sellout Theory
12/17/03, 08:14 PM
C&C are really gaining on me. I didnt really like them the first couple times I heard them but now I am starting to like them alot more.