english paper.... help please....

[skttlezgrl]

Hey im doing and english editorial paper on what is punk? since punk has changed since its documented start in the 70's i was interested in getting some peoples opinion in today's generation so yeah if you guys would be cool and maybe lend me your opinions that would be great!!! thanks a lot!

[theused999182]

well its not the fashon trend that everyone is trying to make it.

[Highway Donkey]

My opinion is that you should find something else to write about.

[xnotyourstarx]

Why does everyone pick some topic that has to do with 'punk' or music. And then they come here and complain about it and ask for help regarding it. Even if you do choose your own topic, and you think it would be cool to write about, maybe we should put some thought into topics we choose. And find something a little easier to write about.

You're talking to the queen of doing stupid shit like that. Last year I had to do a year long project on an author. We had to read some books by whomever it was, do all these projects, creative essays, and what not. Most people chose some easy author that everyone has heard about, wrote some book everyone is forced to read. Basically someone there is a ton of info on. But no, I chose to do Chuck Palahniuk. And while it may have seemed cool to start in the beginning, and at the end I was happy with my project that filled my binder...the process was excruciating. Especially since the only source for info on him was one website.

[Milonater]

Choose a new topic. Punk is something different to everyone, there is no universal agreement or definition or consensus, anywhere.

[mikeduin620]

Originally posted by Milonater
Choose a new topic. Punk is something different to everyone, there is no universal agreement or definition or consensus, anywhere.

....the smartest thing ever to come out of milonater.

[nards228]

Originally posted by mikeduin620
....the smartest thing ever to come out of milonater.
...which isn't saying much, since he's mostly full of sound and fury. Don't take it personally, Milo, as I know you will.



Rennard

[em0]

i don't think she was asking for help, i'm pretty sure she asked for opinions...

[skttlezgrl]

emo is correct i was asking for opinions not help . I chose this topic because well its something i know a lot about; and is going to be very easy to write. I wanted to get opinions from the actually source you guys, and your views on what punk actually is, especially in todays commericialized society. since its documented start in the 70's w/ the ramones and sex pistols punk has changed drastically in its 40 some odd years of play. Is it still the music of the underground revolution that it once was, or is over comercialized nonesense that the music industry is now using to get money? this is what my paper is on, this is why i asked for your opinions. Like i said i want to get the information from the source. Thanks cause you guys gave me some good opinions I can use.
-KT

[Milonater]

Dear Rennard: I beg to differ, I'm sound, fury, and sexy to boot.

P.S. - I'm smarter than I let on.

That being said - still, writing this essay on "what punk is", no matter how much head knowledge you know, or how many bands you consider "punk", it is a given that someone, somewhere will disagree and either call you a poser or a hardline elitist.

One will say "punk is a mindset, a lifestyle, a thought process, a way of thinking" while someone else will say "punk is just a simple name given to rebels and those looking for edgier fashion", where someone else will say "Punk is all about music, punk has it's soul in music and that's where the whole thing began". They all may very well be right.

But that's not even the start of it, because from there people like to try and classify bands: "Okay, NOFX is punk, but Blink 182 isn't. The Sex Pistols were definately punk, but anything post 80's is definately not, punk is dead". Or you have your basic "Punk is many things to many people, punk can be emo, pop punk, thrasher punk, post-hardcore, I just think of punk as the centre of a gigantic web, and everything else today stems from it!"

And just when it seems opinions have gotten ridiculously widespread, people like to try to classify other people too.

"Okay, that guy wears studs but he likes blink. Total poser!" verses "Hey, that guy's an individual, he's definately got some punk in him!", verses "OMG AVRIL! POSE-FEST!".
I personally don't think you can honestly say for sure someone is or isn't punk. It's not in the fashion or the music, it's in the mind.
But that's just me.

So honestly, to write a paper on it would be pointless because views will never line up, opinions will never match.

[xnotyourstarx]

no matter what anybody says their opinion on "punk" is, they're going to get verbally raped by somebody.

[AlwaysPunkin45]

Punk is music...lets leave it at that.

[skttlezgrl]

You just hit the main point of my paper in the ass. I understand that punk has many different views. Thats actually how i am concluding the paper. The thing is that this is an editorial paper its basically based on opinions to come to a main conclusion. I chose the subject of what is punk because i have a good understanding and because i know their will be great amount of different opinions to come to my main conclusion. Also can i quote you in it?
Originally posted by Milonater
Dear Rennard: I beg to differ, I'm sound, fury, and sexy to boot.

P.S. - I'm smarter than I let on.

That being said - still, writing this essay on "what punk is", no matter how much head knowledge you know, or how many bands you consider "punk", it is a given that someone, somewhere will disagree and either call you a poser or a hardline elitist.

One will say "punk is a mindset, a lifestyle, a thought process, a way of thinking" while someone else will say "punk is just a simple name given to rebels and those looking for edgier fashion", where someone else will say "Punk is all about music, punk has it's soul in music and that's where the whole thing began". They all may very well be right.

But that's not even the start of it, because from there people like to try and classify bands: "Okay, NOFX is punk, but Blink 182 isn't. The Sex Pistols were definately punk, but anything post 80's is definately not, punk is dead". Or you have your basic "Punk is many things to many people, punk can be emo, pop punk, thrasher punk, post-hardcore, I just think of punk as the centre of a gigantic web, and everything else today stems from it!"

And just when it seems opinions have gotten ridiculously widespread, people like to try to classify other people too.

"Okay, that guy wears studs but he likes blink. Total poser!" verses "Hey, that guy's an individual, he's definately got some punk in him!", verses "OMG AVRIL! POSE-FEST!".
I personally don't think you can honestly say for sure someone is or isn't punk. It's not in the fashion or the music, it's in the mind.
But that's just me.

So honestly, to write a paper on it would be pointless because views will never line up, opinions will never match.

[kornintee]

alright im going to try and be one of the few helpful people out there...

punk was founded in europe."founded". anyways it was all about rebelious, opressed teens living on the streets. punk wasnt about music at all when it was first founded it was about political parties and everything punk is not now. the teens were opressed and faught for freedom and rights and so on. also anarchy was braught into it later. thats where all these hot topic kids get away with wearing anarchy shirts and having the right to carve the A into schools desks. then punk music came along. like most things ever to be discussed music was braught into punk living so they could express their feelings without getting in trouble much like Rx Bandits do today. the music was fast and angry the melody of their emotions at the time. also the generic punk drum beat was started because full drum sets were rare with the poor on the streets. now adays with the popularity and "trendyness" of punk braught over to the U.S. has made punk dead. not the music. but the lifestyle and just about everything truthful about punk. today you can walk around a political debate at school or even offical voting and im shure you'd see a "punk" person. of course a real old school punker would never be caught dead at a political ralley unless they were starting a riot or burning something. and as closing words "god bless amerika. the land where something sacred is turned into a fashon." i hope this helps with your papper and i hope your teacher realizes the importance of "punk". write me back to tell me what you thought.

-brandon

[skttlezgrl]

Thank you brandon would u mind if i quoted you aswell...
Originally posted by kornintee alright im going to try and be one of the few helpful people out there...

punk was founded in europe."founded". anyways it was all about rebelious, opressed teens living on the streets. punk wasnt about music at all when it was first founded it was about political parties and everything punk is not now. the teens were opressed and faught for freedom and rights and so on. also anarchy was braught into it later. thats where all these hot topic kids get away with wearing anarchy shirts and having the right to carve the A into schools desks. then punk music came along. like most things ever to be discussed music was braught into punk living so they could express their feelings without getting in trouble much like Rx Bandits do today. the music was fast and angry the melody of their emotions at the time. also the generic punk drum beat was started because full drum sets were rare with the poor on the streets. now adays with the popularity and "trendyness" of punk braught over to the U.S. has made punk dead. not the music. but the lifestyle and just about everything truthful about punk. today you can walk around a political debate at school or even offical voting and im shure you'd see a "punk" person. of course a real old school punker would never be caught dead at a political ralley unless they were starting a riot or burning something. and as closing words "god bless amerika. the land where something sacred is turned into a fashon." i hope this helps with your papper and i hope your teacher realizes the importance of "punk". write me back to tell me what you thought.

-brandon

[Milonater]

It depends what you quote me on.

[Milonater]

Holy accidental double post batman!

[skttlezgrl]

I just wanted to say thank you to all of you who replied, your opinions were a great help, i have enough information for this editorial now. Thank you so much :D