Being degraded on age, gender, or stereotype.

[supersonic182]

Is it just me who believes that the whole judging stereotype of younger people, teenagers is unfair? I've noticed that teenagers, and myself having been included in that, have been judged irrashly either on age, gender, or the consenses of stereotype and slander. There are always those people that state something as in, 'you're fourteen, and you wouldn't know anything about that,' or 'you probably haven't done your research,' merely because of being young. I'm intelligent, and I realize, and I hate people that generalize the opposite.

There are always those people that give a bad name to teenagers, by being overly obnoxious, and whatnot. But I want a few opinions on how or what exactly to retort to somebody that doesn't give a fair listen to somebody's opinion merely because of young age, gender, or stereotype.

[SgtFumunda]

Is it just me who believes that the whole judging stereotype of younger people, teenagers is unfair? I've noticed that teenagers, and myself having been included in that, have been judged irrashly either on age, gender, or the consenses of stereotype and slander. There are always those people that state something as in, 'you're fourteen, and you wouldn't know anything about that,' or 'you probably haven't done your research,' merely because of being young. I'm intelligent, and I realize, and I hate people that generalize the opposite.

There are always those people that give a bad name to teenagers, by being overly obnoxious, and whatnot. But I want a few opinions on how or what exactly to retort to somebody that doesn't give a fair listen to somebody's opinion merely because of young age, gender, or stereotype.
Advice?

Pwn them with your amazing knowledge of said topic. Then they will have to run back to their parents' basement with their tails between their legs. Otherwise, just ignore them. I remember what it was like to be 14 and have opinions but have everyone disregard them. It sucks. A lot of people on here are just looking for an opportunity to exalt themselves with their "superior" music knowledge and taste...you just either have to ignore it or battle them and point out why their elitism is fucking stupid.

[supersonic182]

It's nice to hear a smart response. I was half expecting to get a few sneers here and there. Or at least having somebody that at one time could relate to me.

And again, I realize thow teenagers can get he whole disrespectful gesture in some sense. Most people think back on their teenage years as 'being rebellious,' and thinking they own the world, and have preconceived notions of how others behave just because they were like that themselves. But I don't, that's what seperates me from being able to relate with a lot of older folks. It bothers me that people will complain about teenager's lack in vocabulary, and whatnot, and then you actually see people that are older having the same lack of variation. People can be so bloody hypocritical.

One of the things I often get frustrated about is my music. People think that I have no right to be listening to stuff like The Clash, the Cure, the Sex Pistols, early Bon Jovi because I didn't live through those decades. I have my own unique sense and taste of music, and I would like to think that it's more versatile than people would like to think for being 14, and whatnot. Most people stereotype fourteen year olds as listening strictly to 'pop fluff,' or 'mainstream trash,' when that's not me at all. It's pretty sad how people think they're more elite than the younger folk merely from judging on a stereotyped or inclined to be obnoxious crowd. I'd like to think of myself as being a fair person, and when being stereotyped to not know what they're talking abou? Yeah, it sucks. And it is pathetically ignorant of others, I realize.

Sometimes I want to give them a nice ego deflation, even if that's not the mature way to handle it. It's not exactly wise to be critical of somebody else, while setting themselves up for numerous retorts as in wonderment of pathetically wasted lives or if they're still shacking up in their parents houses.

[SonEric84]

You do seem to be intelligent, able to type like a normal person, and pretty mature for your age. Unfortunately, most kids around your age are not. Just do your best to show others you're not part of the masses.

[walking_person]

Ignore them. Works well for me, and it's rare that I encounter someone that says things like that or puts me into those stereotypes.

If you're older, your actions that are similar to many teenagers are often disregarded. I know it's not right, but it's hard to change.

[breaking news!]

Is it just me who believes that the whole judging stereotype of younger people, teenagers is unfair? I've noticed that teenagers, and myself having been included in that, have been judged irrashly either on age, gender, or the consenses of stereotype and slander. There are always those people that state something as in, 'you're fourteen, and you wouldn't know anything about that,' or 'you probably haven't done your research,' merely because of being young. I'm intelligent, and I realize, and I hate people that generalize the opposite.

There are always those people that give a bad name to teenagers, by being overly obnoxious, and whatnot. But I want a few opinions on how or what exactly to retort to somebody that doesn't give a fair listen to somebody's opinion merely because of young age, gender, or stereotype.


true...im a 15 year old girl...i had to go through the same stuff, and still do. if you think about it, peoples opinions do change, just from the fact of that you are 14, and not 15. once you do turn a year older, things do change, just like every other year. its sad because i myself wrote an amazing article for my biology class on Huntingtons Disease; it came out way better then i thougth i was capable of. i did all of the research, sited my sources right, and went above and beyond...but my teacher told me that it was "too good for someone of my age..."or "this is inconsistant with your other work." but in reality, all of my other pieces were well done, but not quite to this particular standard...So, you need to expect people to put you down about your age, and gender. no matter what, its something you have to learn to deal with. it sucks, sure...but yeah.

i dont know--things will get better as you get older, as sad as that sounds. but people will respect you for being mature, and for your opinions...so, good luck, i suppose.

[jamison1386]

i definitely understand where you're coming from on this...but you also have to understand that there are a lot of people your age that aren't as smart as you and make retarded comments acting like they know what they're talking about

for example, i saw in one thread not too long ago, a 15 year old guy giving a 13 year old girl advice on sex...can you understand how that might annoy some one older like myself?

[popdisaster00]

If you act like a 14 year old, you'll be treated like one. ie; If you act like an immature, unlearned, selfish bastard then you deserve to be treated like one. But in most cases, if you act like an adult and can prove that you're smarter than the typicial stereotype of your age, you will be treated more like an adult. I felt like I was in the same situation when I was your age. Most of the kids my age were immature assholes, but it's the norm at that age. Even kids my age now still act like they're 14. There are people out there, though, that will see you as a mature teen and treat you/speak to you like you are older. The good news is, in a few years people will start to see you as an adult and begin to treat you like one. I can have intelligent, meaningful conversations with middle aged people now, and it's (for the most part) great. You can't escape the people that won't see you as mature, though. What I mean by that is there are a lot of high school teachers that are so against people your age, but it's only because a lot of the kids ask for it. Usually the younger teachers are cooler and more down to earth.

Just disregard the fuckers that don't see you as a mature teenager. And appreciate the ones that do.

[popdisaster00]

i definitely understand where you're coming from on this...but you also have to understand that there are a lot of people your age that aren't as smart as you and make retarded comments acting like they know what they're talking about

for example, i saw in one thread not too long ago, a 15 year old guy giving a 13 year old girl advice on sex...can you understand how that might annoy some one older like myself?
Yeah, basically what he said.

[supersonic182]

You do seem to be intelligent, able to type like a normal person, and pretty mature for your age. Unfortunately, most kids around your age are not. Just do your best to show others you're not part of the masses.


I take that as a compliment. And I understand what you're trying to point out in that aspect.

I know for a fact that I'm not the only literate teenager, even though there does seem to be a great deal of teenagers that post with nothing but 'OMG,' or 'LOL,' or 'idk my bffl Jill.' The sad thing is, there are still a great deal of people that type or express themselves like that that are either in mid or early twenties. That's what makes me aggravated. But t's the whole stereotype.



Ignore them. Works well for me, and it's rare that I encounter someone that says things like that or puts me into those stereotypes.

If you're older, your actions that are similar to many teenagers are often disregarded. I know it's not right, but it's hard to change.


You're probably right, and typically I am able to do, but at a certain point it does get agitating. It just seems like the younger you are, the more prone you are to being insulted or commentated as being inconsiderably lacking maturity. That's what I've gathered through personal experience.


true...im a 15 year old girl...i had to go through the same stuff, and still do. if you think about it, peoples opinions do change, just from the fact of that you are 14, and not 15. once you do turn a year older, things do change, just like every other year. its sad because i myself wrote an amazing article for my biology class on Huntingtons Disease; it came out way better then i thougth i was capable of. i did all of the research, sited my sources right, and went above and beyond...but my teacher told me that it was "too good for someone of my age..."or "this is inconsistant with your other work." but in reality, all of my other pieces were well done, but not quite to this particular standard...So, you need to expect people to put you down about your age, and gender. no matter what, its something you have to learn to deal with. it sucks, sure...but yeah.

i dont know--things will get better as you get older, as sad as that sounds. but people will respect you for being mature, and for your opinions...so, good luck, i suppose.


It's amazing how I can relate to a lot of what you're saying. Seeing as I've handed in papers to suprised or shocked teachers that apparently don't expect anything to that degree out of teenagers, and I've also experienced the opposite that expect amazing prose out of teens. It's confusing as to what teachers, and other adults exactly expect out of most teens seeing as the opinion is constantly constrewed and most opinions are either too light or too critical.

Like stated previously, there are a great deal of teenagers that act, behave, type, or express themselves in a very immature fashion so most adults believe or generalize that the majority is like that. It'd be nice to do something about that for all the literate teens out there, but at this point in time, unless there is a drastic change; that looks nearly or borderline impossible. It probably is up to me, or whoever not to change that stereotype admist all the opinions.

I've wished to be older, simply for that reason, that people seem less shrewd. But I'm not about to 'wish my life away,' as many often put it.

[supersonic182]

i definitely understand where you're coming from on this...but you also have to understand that there are a lot of people your age that aren't as smart as you and make retarded comments acting like they know what they're talking about

for example, i saw in one thread not too long ago, a 15 year old guy giving a 13 year old girl advice on sex...can you understand how that might annoy some one older like myself?


I pretty much understand both sides in some sense, and I've seen examples that could run along the lines of what you posted. That's a sad truth, and example right there of what some teenagers could be, but I pointedly believe that there's an unheard side of the story. At least, there's a good or fair percentage of teens my age that aren't illiterate and are defensive about the material they listen to or constantly going at it about how they aren't as conformative as others as I am.

I guess what I'm trying to pointedly go at, is I'm in wonderment of exactly how to prove that I'm not about to have all my posts consist of internet slang , trashy or slandered material, or immaturity.

If you act like a 14 year old, you'll be treated like one. ie; If you act like an immature, unlearned, selfish bastard then you deserve to be treated like one. But in most cases, if you act like an adult and can prove that you're smarter than the typicial stereotype of your age, you will be treated more like an adult. I felt like I was in the same situation when I was your age. Most of the kids my age were immature assholes, but it's the norm at that age. Even kids my age now still act like they're 14. There are people out there, though, that will see you as a mature teen and treat you/speak to you like you are older. The good news is, in a few years people [I]will start to see you as an adult and begin to treat you like one. I can have intelligent, meaningful conversations with middle aged people now, and it's (for the most part) great. You can't escape the people that won't see you as mature, though. What I mean by that is there are a lot of high school teachers that are so against people your age, but it's only because a lot of the kids ask for it. Usually the younger teachers are cooler and more down to earth.

Just disregard the fuckers that don't see you as a mature teenager. And appreciate the ones that do.


I guess that really is what it comes down, and that's probably one of the most blunt statements right there but unfortunately there are a great deal of people who don't treat people as they deserve to be. Sure, there always are and always will be people who deserve to be treated like we know what, because of their lack of maturity, and somehow they get treated righteous. And there always are those people that feel somehow missing out and mistreated, and I don't mean to act self pitiupon in any sense. It's just, feeling like the minority a great deal of the time, it rather bothering.

And you're again right, pointedly, there are people that are so ignorant and determined to believe what they believe that even if you repeatedly prove that you are not like the rest, they still will believe just that. Those people seem to be the people that fall short of the prime aspect in maturity, right there.

I've always been questioning on what exactly are the prime aspects for seeming 'mature,' 'intelligent,' and how exactly to get past the stereotype, or if they just come with age. That can't be the case, seeing as there are a great deal of people that are in their twenties or thirties that can't put together a good phrase or paragraph. It's pretty pathetic if you ask me.

[SonEric84]

I take that as a compliment. And I understand what you're trying to point out in that aspect.

I know for a fact that I'm not the only literate teenager, even though there does seem to be a great deal of teenagers that post with nothing but 'OMG,' or 'LOL,' or 'idk my bffl Jill.' The sad thing is, there are still a great deal of people that type or express themselves like that that are either in mid or early twenties. That's what makes me aggravated. But t's the whole stereotype.





Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to say only teenagers type like that, I don't take anyone who types like that very seriously, because even if they're intelligent in real life it makes them look dumber than a rock on the computer. You know, if you think about it though, there are truths to a lot of stereotypes...whether it's fair to judge like that or not. Of course there are exceptions (like you and a few others I have seen here) but for the most part it's true. For the record, I know a lot of people around my age that are immature assholes so it's not just younger people at all.


for example, i saw in one thread not too long ago, a 15 year old guy giving a 13 year old girl advice on sex...can you understand how that might annoy some one older like myself?

Yeah, that pissed me off. I blasted him for it, but I think he was just joking...though I'm willing to bet the 13 year old didn't even realize it.

[PadraicPrincess]

I think that it's harder to say, or just that it's to the most intense level of judgement upon age on an internet forum like this. It is incomparable to real life, because with all respect, all you have on here to judge a person is a number counting posts, a number stating age and maybe a picture or two. But I do see where you're coming from. So much of the time people are deemed automatically inferior because they are younger. But it has been that way forever, so, I guess you just have to ignore it until they realize that you aren't at all below them.

[oneswiftmotion]

Wow, I understand exactly what you're talking about. It is very degrading, and since teenagers are known as simply 'not to care' what anyone else thinks or cares about. I recognize the importance of others, and it irritates me how older people believe most of us are superficial and ignorant. Such a bad stereotype, but we must show them it's wrong.

[girl germs]

I know. it's so hard to be fifteen. :|

[Hamlet]

Smartest 14 year old on this site? I think so.

:)

[walking_person]

I think that it's harder to say, or just that it's to the most intense level of judgement upon age on an internet forum like this. It is incomparable to real life, because with all respect, all you have on here to judge a person is a number counting posts, a number stating age and maybe a picture or two. But I do see where you're coming from. So much of the time people are deemed automatically inferior because they are younger. But it has been that way forever, so, I guess you just have to ignore it until they realize that you aren't at all below them.
That's what I've been doing for years. It works well when you're used to the fact that there are always going to be those that fit the stereotypes. You have to accept it, despite what others may think. Remember that you're not like everyone in those, and be happy with that.

P.S.: My little sister saw me posting this and told me to put a smiley face in, and some of the things in this thread made me feel like mentioning that.

[rikfrommf]

Is it just me who believes that the whole judging stereotype of younger people, teenagers is unfair? I've noticed that teenagers, and myself having been included in that, have been judged irrashly either on age, gender, or the consenses of stereotype and slander. There are always those people that state something as in, 'you're fourteen, and you wouldn't know anything about that,' or 'you probably haven't done your research,' merely because of being young. I'm intelligent, and I realize, and I hate people that generalize the opposite.

There are always those people that give a bad name to teenagers, by being overly obnoxious, and whatnot. But I want a few opinions on how or what exactly to retort to somebody that doesn't give a fair listen to somebody's opinion merely because of young age, gender, or stereotype.

grow up. it's part of life, we all lived with it too. :-)

[brentkid]

I respect that you're mature for you're age but honestly, you sound like you take yourself too seriously. Live a little. You don't have to be a brat but don't expect a twenty year old to take you seriously regardless of how knowledgeable you may be. There's a lot in life that you haven't experienced yet and have no idea about. That's what makes the difference and that's where your problem stems from. You can be extremely bright but you don't have the same life experiences for someone older to relate and put you on their level.

It's life.

[apoemtothedead]

Smartest 14 year old on this site? I think so.

:)
That's just like being the best player on the Miami Dolphins.

[jamison1386]

That's just like being the best player on the Miami Dolphins.

zing!

[lauren<3s music]

completely sucks but i have to say in most of these situations actions speak louder than words. and grammar is key. "being degraded on..." no "being discriminated against because of..." yes

[thetrueblood]

Is it just me who believes that the whole judging stereotype of younger people, teenagers is unfair? I've noticed that teenagers, and myself having been included in that, have been judged irrashly either on age, gender, or the consenses of stereotype and slander. There are always those people that state something as in, 'you're fourteen, and you wouldn't know anything about that,' or 'you probably haven't done your research,' merely because of being young. I'm intelligent, and I realize, and I hate people that generalize the opposite.

There are always those people that give a bad name to teenagers, by being overly obnoxious, and whatnot. But I want a few opinions on how or what exactly to retort to somebody that doesn't give a fair listen to somebody's opinion merely because of young age, gender, or stereotype.

just shut up for the next four or five years, you're only 14.

[radio napalm]

get used to it. it'll never end. i'm by far the youngest person in our office (i'll be 22 in less than 2 weeks, but still am 4-5 years younger than the next youngest person who happens to be our intern), and my boss refers to me as a sixth grader.

[Spicoli hey bud]

Is it just me who believes that the whole judging stereotype of younger people, teenagers is unfair? I've noticed that teenagers, and myself having been included in that, have been judged irrashly either on age, gender, or the consenses of stereotype and slander. There are always those people that state something as in, 'you're fourteen, and you wouldn't know anything about that,' or 'you probably haven't done your research,' merely because of being young. I'm intelligent, and I realize, and I hate people that generalize the opposite.

There are always those people that give a bad name to teenagers, by being overly obnoxious, and whatnot. But I want a few opinions on how or what exactly to retort to somebody that doesn't give a fair listen to somebody's opinion merely because of young age, gender, or stereotype.
sounds like somebody used a thesaurus incorrectly.

and what does irrashly mean?

[concernedparent]

14 year olds are treated stupid because most of them are. Majority rules.

[xfantabulousx]

Yeah..."Irrashly" isn't a word. Perhaps you meant "irrationally"? "Consenses" also isn't a word, but "consensus" is. If you were really intelligent, the last sentence of your first paragraph would have made sense. What you say kind of hurts your argument. While you want people to believe that judging people by age is unfair, your grammar and spelling justify the argument that teens aren't as smart as they think they are.

Eventually, you're going to realize that older people DO know more than you because they have more experience than you. Being judged by age is completely fair. Teenagers DO deserve a bad name. We ARE overly obnoxious. We DO stupid stuff. Is it always fair? Maybe not all of the time. But get over it. It's just part of being a teenager.

I'm 16 and I know I'm overly obnoxious and do stupid stuff and therefore I think its fair to be judged because I'm a teenager. I guess I'm not "intelligent" like the 13 and 14 year olds here.

[girl germs]

I hate stupid fourteen year olds!

[SonEric84]

That's just like being the best player on the Miami Dolphins.


hahahaha Fucking classic.

[rikfrommf]

hahahaha Fucking classic.

seconded.

[supersonic182]

sounds like somebody used a thesaurus incorrectly.

and what does irrashly mean?

I meant 'irrationally,' and I apologize for having a few grammar and spellingerrors. I mean, it's not like anybody else has, and I feel like people who are trying to tell me to stop shoving things up my ass are doing exactly just that. So you've never spelled something incorrectly? It's hard to take somebody seriously that's prime focus is on spelling, instead of the general idea that I was trying to get across. The immaturity lies in people who can't comment anything but 'I hate stupid fourteen year olds,' but hey? Good for you.

& Thank you to the people that commented, with suggestions or whatnot. I appreciate your feedback.

[White Noise]

I always feel this way too, like I'm not being listened to or respected. But that just the way it is. If i was older i wouldn't listen to a teenager either. So i guess i understand.

[oneswiftmotion]

I meant 'irrationally,' and I apologize for having a few grammar and spellingerrors. I mean, it's not like anybody else has, and I feel like people who are trying to tell me to stop shoving things up my ass are doing exactly just that. So you've never spelled something incorrectly? It's hard to take somebody seriously that's prime focus is on spelling, instead of the general idea that I was trying to get across. The immaturity lies in people who can't comment anything but 'I hate stupid fourteen year olds,' but hey? Good for you.

& Thank you to the people that commented, with suggestions or whatnot. I appreciate your feedback.

I don't think his prime focus was on spelling, he merely made a suggestion on how to improve your writing skills. There's no need to take that so seriously.

Oh, and I don't believe you reviewed your work before your published it. There's a space between spelling and errors. See, was that so hard?

[stayillogical]

Smartest 14 year old on this site? I think so.

:)

Nah... that Praetor kid is pretty awesome, and I think he's 14.