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dretti
11/10/03, 06:54 PM
allright i probly could get a lot of shit about this...

but i think dashboard is the most overrated piece of shit music ever. The new cd blew ass. It was no good at all. I'm sorry but its so overrated. His voice sounds like an 11 year old boy going through puberty. Claudio from coheed may have a weird ass voice but it adds to the goodness. i'm sorry again but....

DASHBOARD BLOWS

jgirv17
11/10/03, 09:22 PM
yup

xforgetdecember
11/10/03, 09:24 PM
I liked Chris better in Further Seems Forever. But Jason's probably a better vocalist, anyway.

..Dashboard Confessional is over-rated, but I wouldn't say it totally blows. I like some of the songs off the EPs.

xnotedgex
11/11/03, 05:36 AM
get over it...jealousy rears its ugly head yet again...i bet if you knew about dashboard 2 years ago you would think it was the greatest music you've ever heard

Chadwick
11/11/03, 10:11 AM
I dont think they blow at all. Chris Carraba is a amazing song writer and thats it. If you can write better then let me hear/see it. I dont listen to them to here chris's voice. I listen for the lyrics and probably so do the other 75% who do listen to them to!

mirtizzle
11/11/03, 02:34 PM
i knew i was going to get irritated on this forum... and it's not even because you don't like a band that i don't like, but just because people on here can't just say "i don't like so-and-so", they have to say "they blow" or they're "overrated pieces of shit". call me idealistic, but the music these people make are their lives. give them credit. i can't stand coheed. but at least i can acknowledge their value as good musicians.

anyway, back to topic... i love dashboard. i don't like the new cd as much as his older stuff, but i still think it's good. and i don't really see where his voice sounds like a prepubescent boy. it fits the music well..

worldstheory
11/11/03, 03:19 PM
How much do you wanna bet that dretti has never heard any Dashboard music prior to the latest one or two albums?

Chadwick
11/11/03, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by mirtizzle
i knew i was going to get irritated on this forum... and it's not even because you don't like a band that i don't like, but just because people on here can't just say "i don't like so-and-so", they have to say "they blow" or they're "overrated pieces of shit". call me idealistic, but the music these people make are their lives. give them credit. i can't stand coheed. but at least i can acknowledge their value as good musicians.

anyway, back to topic... i love dashboard. i don't like the new cd as much as his older stuff, but i still think it's good. and i don't really see where his voice sounds like a prepubescent boy. it fits the music well.. Who gives a shit deal with it. If you dont like how people think and act leave.

mirtizzle
11/11/03, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by Chadwick
Who gives a shit deal with it. If you dont like how people think and act leave.

if you don't give a shit, why bother replying?

dretti
11/11/03, 07:26 PM
haven't heard the first albums?

*Mark,Mission,Brand,Scar = Sucked

* The places you have come to fear the most = best of the albums but still sucked

*Swiss army romance - Sucked

*Then the two ep's i have heard summer kiss which was fucking terrible but i havent heard so impossible

my conclusion DASHBOARD STILL BLOWS

jgirv17
11/11/03, 10:14 PM
now, im no expert on dashboard confessional....but last time i heard a song it went something like this:

"ohhhhh my name is chris
and i have funny looking hair

::sob::

oh sorry, i forgot i was singing

::ahem::

i loved you, you loved him
im torn between you an a whim

i wish i was a girl so my voice seemed to fit
emo is a lifestyle dadadada it

i wish i could get a girl and we could make out
even though every girl in the world wants me i still cant get laid which means i still have to write about the same things in every song and never change anything up

i have tatoos
im a badass with a soft side and girls love it
no wait, no they dont because i am emooooooooo

love me like i loved you
or kill me which wouldnt be too cool but im depressed about a relationship i had in high school, so i guess it makes no difference"

now i didn't get that off some lyric site, so it may be a little off....but i think thats the basic message of the song.

at4inthemornin
11/11/03, 10:20 PM
ah finally...

In one of my other posts I expressed my dislike for Good Charlotte and Simple Plan....and I dissapointingly forgot to include Dashboard in there.

so here it is.

What is the big deal about Chris Corraba? Quite frankly I am getting sick of seeing his face on every teen magazine cover...and seeing his face pasted all over the walls of teenage girls' rooms. For the record, I have disliked Dashboard since the beginning of their existence. However, I have not felt the same way about Further Seems Forever. Why is this....uhm -- I'd say it is because Chris Corraba is merely part of a band...instead of heading his baby, Dashboard, where he can sing and wine and play tear inducing guitar riffs. If I were that good looking(or so i hear) I wouldn't be singing such sad and pathetic songs...Does anyone really relate with his stuff? I for one can't take his lyrics...'your hair is everywhere..." thats a killer rhyme...i mean really...

So..in conclusion...Chris...cool it with the hair-gel...alone...I don't like you at all....With Further Seems Forever...you are infinitely more tolerable.

I end my rant. Speak on.

xnotedgex
11/12/03, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by at4inthemornin
What is the big deal about Chris Corraba? Quite frankly I am getting sick of seeing his face on every teen magazine cover...and seeing his face pasted all over the walls of teenage girls' rooms. For the record, I have disliked Dashboard since the beginning of their existence. However, I have not felt the same way about Further Seems Forever. Why is this....uhm -- I'd say it is because Chris Corraba is merely part of a band...instead of heading his baby, Dashboard, where he can sing and wine and play tear inducing guitar riffs. If I were that good looking(or so i hear) I wouldn't be singing such sad and pathetic songs...Does anyone really relate with his stuff? I for one can't take his lyrics...'your hair is everywhere..." thats a killer rhyme...i mean really...

So..in conclusion...Chris...cool it with the hair-gel...alone...I don't like you at all....With Further Seems Forever...you are infinitely more tolerable.

I end my rant. Speak on.

ok, who's the loser who knows what's going on with teen magazines and teenage girs' rooms

seriously, the guy is smart enough to realize that he can set himself up for life with his music...it's called planning for your future..it's called giving the fans what they want (and they obviously do if he's on these teen magazine that you seem so fond of)

i don't understand why you care so much about what he writes about...if you don't like it, don't listen to it

i find it ironic that someone who likes ska so much can repeatedly attack other bands' lyrics (jgirv)

jgirv17
11/12/03, 09:04 AM
the ska i like the best is streetlight manifesto, old catch 22, and bandits of the acoustic revolution...bands with good, meaningful lyrics.

plus, the only lyrics i truly cant stand is emo lyrics.

it seems everyone can write them and they really dont take too much talent to write. true, it might or might not be speaking from the heart, but they all begin to sound the same. i like songs that seem to have a different meaning to them...even if its "stupid" ska lyrics that are about having fun and just living life to the fullest instead of dwelling on some pre-pubescent "love" you had.

jgirv17
11/12/03, 09:16 AM
by the way....i'm touched to see you care so much for my posts that you know my musical tastes so well.

it's not like you are just assuming what i like through what i've written here....not like i assumed stuff about brand new from the stuff they wrote, right? because, going by you, that is unfair.

at4inthemornin
11/12/03, 12:24 PM
Ha...I'm a loser for seeing Chris Corraba's face on magazines when I walk by a newstand? Or I walk into someone's room and they have posters of the little bastard all over their wall? Or because I read on this site or another site that our buddy Chris made the cover or has an article in so and so magazine? Pardon me for being so incredibly un-cool. How about seeing preppy teenage girls walk around with Dashboard shirts on? Does that count? I apologize for having functional eyes...I do. Shall we mention the large female following he has - because I think that contributes to my argument? I mean...hey...If i were him, I'd be kind of embarassed, producing the songs that he does - but I'd love coming home everyday and counting my money. But if that's what it is all about....And Yes -- I don't like his music...thus why I burned his fucking CD and haven't even listened to it for more than one song yet....

But that's all for now....I think I'm gonna go read that stack of Teen Magazine's I picked up today....

at4inthemornin
11/12/03, 12:30 PM
Ha...I'm a loser for seeing Chris Corraba's face on magazines when I walk by a newstand? Or I walk into someone's room and they have posters of the little bastard all over their wall? Or because I read on this site or another site that our buddy Chris made the cover or has an article in so and so magazine? Pardon me for being so incredibly un-cool. How about seeing preppy teenage girls walk around with Dashboard shirts on? Does that count? I apologize for having functional eyes...I do. Shall we mention the large female following he has - because I think that contributes to my argument? I mean...hey...If i were him, I'd be kind of embarassed, producing the songs that he does - but I'd love coming home everyday and counting my money. But if that's what it is all about....And Yes -- I don't like his music...thus why I burned his fucking CD and haven't even listened to it for more than one song yet....

But that's all for now....I think I'm gonna go read that stack of Teen Magazine's I picked up today....

Sensesfail187
11/14/03, 05:08 PM
yeah.. dashboard, there new cd with the electir guitars totally blowed shit..

jtaz87
11/14/03, 05:20 PM
it might be overrated.. but i think dashboard confessional is a GREAT band and their new album is awesome.. but their sound is something you have to learn to like or you just wont like it. but i mainly listen to the lyrics so yeah..

OkayIBeliveYou
11/15/03, 07:37 AM
ive always been a huge dashboard fan, and when i got the new cd (first day it came out of course) i liked it.

then everyone started loving hands down, which i think is one of their better songs lyrically, and they havn't even heard any other songs and its not fair that they can like dashboard for one song they need to like dashboard for songs that made dashboard like swiss army romance, turpentine chaser and stuff like that, now i cant listen to hands down (the new version) anymore.

I saw them in concert 2 monthes ago and I think they were really good live, but I HAVE NOT LISTENED TO THEIR NEW CD SINCE

the new CD has really turned me off, even though i really liked it when it came out, its just not as good, and not my little child dashboard, i prefer his acoustic stuff

Lueda Alia
11/15/03, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by jgirv17
the ska i like the best is streetlight manifesto, old catch 22, and bandits of the acoustic revolution...bands with good, meaningful lyrics.

plus, the only lyrics i truly cant stand is emo lyrics.

it seems everyone can write them and they really dont take too much talent to write. true, it might or might not be speaking from the heart, but they all begin to sound the same. i like songs that seem to have a different meaning to them...even if its "stupid" ska lyrics that are about having fun and just living life to the fullest instead of dwelling on some pre-pubescent "love" you had.

I love you. Seriously. That's exactly what I said on the "Same old, same old" thread that I started. All bands seem to sound the same lately :rolleyes:


Anyway....I've never liked DC. The only song I really really like is "Hands Down". I don't care what Chris is all about. I really don't. I just don't like his music, and I think it sucks. That's just my opinion though. His music might not really suck, but to me it does. I just can't stand his voice. Bleh.

chaosandlove
11/15/03, 02:50 PM
dashboard seriously sucks,they're so emo i could fucking hurl. the end.have a nice day!

takingbackSVR
11/15/03, 06:46 PM
I posted here once before, but I think I got modded.

Anyhow, just to summarize what I said before.. I think Chris Carraba is a good musician, I give him credit for that. Even if you disagree with he's lyrics and such, his music is definitely melodic and catchy. Personally, he isn't my cup of tea, but knowing that Chris has actually been through tough shit some of you guys would never experience, he has my respect.

Oh yeah. To the guy that's pissed off because he sees Chris Carraba all over media, I say, get over it. Don't be influenced by him and don't judge him because you see him magazines.

piebaldkid42
11/16/03, 09:36 AM
he can write well and all but all the acoustic stuff gets boring after a while and i cant say i was too big of a fan of the new album either, but thats just me.

please everyone ignore my post and continue to argue:)

takingbackrufio
11/16/03, 11:42 AM
Dashboard has never been a favourite of mine, especially after this new album.

Their acoustic stuff was much better.

shut.the.door
11/16/03, 12:15 PM
Swiss Army Romance > the other albums

Yes, I have them all. I miss "the guy, the stool, and the guitar." He is a good songwriter. Like someone else said, I own the albums, but I don't listen to them anymore. I don't hate it, I just got tired of hearing it. He is the poster child for new school "emo." It was bound to happen...

chrisXpunk
11/16/03, 01:53 PM
I can agree with both sides here. The new cd was really not that good. The remake of Hands Down blew, it was much better in its old acoustic form, and NOT in every 15 year old girl's AIM profile. Unfortunately though, anything thats good will naturally become watered down or worse these days when it becomes super-popular.

However, I like alot of their older stuff, and Chris was great in FSF. I also dig his tattoos, and think he's a very nice guy. The way I look at it, put yourself in his place. You make heartfelt music for a while, then suddenly you're making alot of money but also having alot of people hate your guts. It's gotta suck a bit. At least the last time I saw him he played nothing from the new album, and gave props to the opening bands (Brand New and MXPX).

Eh. Love it or hate it, your choice.

piebaldkid42
11/16/03, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by chrisXpunk
and NOT in every 15 year old girl's AIM profile.
or 15 year old boy, yea my bud has it in his:embarasse

xnotedgex
11/17/03, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by at4inthemornin
Ha...I'm a loser for seeing Chris Corraba's face on magazines when I walk by a newstand? Or I walk into someone's room and they have posters of the little bastard all over their wall? Or because I read on this site or another site that our buddy Chris made the cover or has an article in so and so magazine? Pardon me for being so incredibly un-cool. How about seeing preppy teenage girls walk around with Dashboard shirts on? Does that count? I apologize for having functional eyes...I do. Shall we mention the large female following he has - because I think that contributes to my argument? I mean...hey...If i were him, I'd be kind of embarassed, producing the songs that he does - but I'd love coming home everyday and counting my money. But if that's what it is all about....And Yes -- I don't like his music...thus why I burned his fucking CD and haven't even listened to it for more than one song yet....

But that's all for now....I think I'm gonna go read that stack of Teen Magazine's I picked up today....

Since when did judging someone because of their fan base become an acceptable criticism

at4inthemornin
11/17/03, 12:36 PM
When he became a self-obsessed, whiney, bastard - how about that? He's just too emo to be tolerable...Don't even argue with me...people on here get so defensive...It's not like he's ur friggin brother or your reason for living.

funeralfriend1
11/17/03, 01:00 PM
Old Dashboard=good.
New Dashboard=overrated and lame. awkward lyrics and musical arrangement.
Sucks.

Alk3DCStars71
11/17/03, 07:08 PM
I was wondering when someone was going to post about this... I can't help it.... I'm a Dashboard sucker. I was a fan when he was living out of a van and opening for everyone that he possibly could. I remember him opening for someone like two years ago (I left after his set) and being like the only person in the audience to cheer him on. I think what Chris does is great.... he never said that he didn't want to be famous, and he never said that he wanted to. It just sort of happened.

And also, I heard Chris before I saw what he looked like. I liked his music before I said "oh he's cute" (Which I do think so). I was going through bad times and it just sounded good.

I have to admit.... I like the new CD. HOWEVER: I like "Swiss Army" and "Drowning" best.

And about his other bands-
- I have heard the Vacant Andys. I have most of the tracks b/c my friend downloaded them for me, and they're awesome. I think he wrote the songs for them, they sound like his songs... they just rocked.
- I like him better as a singer for Further Seems Forever than Jason. When Chris sang for FSF live, he hit all the notes and just tore the show up. I saw FSF in June with Jason, and I was VERY disappointed. Jason doesn't have the vocal dynamics like Chris (dynamics as in being able to sing a huge range of pitches).

Okay, I'm done ranting now. I've had my say, and I'm not getting into it anymore. I'm sick of arguing what band sucks and what doesn't, yet something draws me back everytime.:dead:

xnotedgex
11/20/03, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by at4inthemornin
When he became a self-obsessed, whiney, bastard - how about that? He's just too emo to be tolerable...Don't even argue with me...people on here get so defensive...It's not like he's ur friggin brother or your reason for living.

you know these things because your relationship with him is what exactly???

the irony of telling other people not to argue with you is too much to ignore, so i must...

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

ass

at4inthemornin
11/21/03, 08:33 AM
I'm sorry...was I supposed to even mistake that as an argument?

I see him on the same level as every other non-teenie bopper emo tool....an annoying, whiney, musician.

That better...?

...ass

xnotedgex
11/21/03, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by at4inthemornin
I'm sorry...was I supposed to even mistake that as an argument?

I see him on the same level as every other non-teenie bopper emo tool....an annoying, whiney, musician.

That better...?

...ass

i'm wondering if you've ever compared his lyrics to the bands you qoute in your signature...im inclined to say no since they're all pretty similar in style, except chris is better at and therefore recieves more attention, but maybe im wrong and its just cool not to like him

and the definition of irony obviously has never been impressed upon you so i'll drop that because i don't feel like arguing with a 14 year old's mental capacity

at4inthemornin
11/22/03, 09:28 AM
Ha...Oh, you're fun to argue with.

Hmm let's see. Have I compared lyrics between my bands and Chris Corraba? No. I have not. Reason: I don't like
Dashboard enough to even bother. And I really don't see how you compare DC to Yellowcard, Matchbook Romance, TBS, and Guns N Roses? Considering those bands play at such a different energy level and style...maybe their lyrics have similar subjects, but the style that it is delivered is infinitely more tolerable. And Guns n Roses....even a 14 yr old knows that DC and GNR are completely different. Never insult my intelligence... wanna compare SAT scores?

xnotedgex
11/24/03, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by at4inthemornin
Ha...Oh, you're fun to argue with.

Hmm let's see. Have I compared lyrics between my bands and Chris Corraba? No. I have not. Reason: I don't like
Dashboard enough to even bother. And I really don't see how you compare DC to Yellowcard, Matchbook Romance, TBS, and Guns N Roses? Considering those bands play at such a different energy level and style...maybe their lyrics have similar subjects, but the style that it is delivered is infinitely more tolerable. And Guns n Roses....even a 14 yr old knows that DC and GNR are completely different. Never insult my intelligence... wanna compare SAT scores?

you say never insult your intelligence, and then you mention sat scores, as if the sat is a measure of one's intelligence, thereby, adding yet another thing that is worthy of insult

and i was obviously not referring to guns and roses when i mentioned the bands in your profile...use a little intuition if you have any...but anyway, maybe if you compared the lyrics among the bands, you'd realize the bands you like are just as whiney, they just don't express it as well

punkprincess69
11/24/03, 11:31 AM
I am a huge Dashboard Confessional fan!! I have seen him or them in concert three times and I love his old music, but I do have to admit that if I wasn't already a fan of his stuff than I really would not have liked this new album. The stuff that made him so popular was his amazing acoustic guitar and lyrics and this last album didn't do that really. I was dissapointed but I still love Chris and just hope that he does it differently next time.

at4inthemornin
11/24/03, 12:30 PM
'I'm reading your note over again.
There is not a word that I comprehend,
except when you signed it
"I will love you always and forever"

As for now I'm gonna hear the saddest songs,
and sit alone and wonder,
how you're making out,
and as for me I wish that I was anywhere
with anyone making out'

How can you argue against that....How can you listen to that? Oh and furthermore on the intelligence topic...we can match GPA or class rank, if that would be easier for you --- IQ maybe -- I mean take your pick, smartguy. Never seen a guy get so offended by criticism of an emo pretty boy...oh wait, that's probably because you two are so alike...You just melt with sympathy at Chrissy's strong, strong, lyrics, because you feel everything that he has gone through.. *tear*.. At least my bands have some variety in their musical deliverance and topic -- oh, and thursday -- dont like them either....

'My hopes are so high that you're kiss might kill me...So kiss me so i can die happy.....'

oh gosh -- WHO THE HELL SAYS THAT!

PEACE OUT!

normally i would hate arguing so continuously, but I can't give up now....so i issue a formal apology to all other viewers who might find this annoying.

sweetsugar
11/24/03, 02:15 PM
I like some DC....but Chris is a bit whiney......he is a good singer though. He's got a better voice than alot of people these days.

worldstheory
11/24/03, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by at4inthemornin
'I'm reading your note over again.
There is not a word that I comprehend,
except when you signed it
"I will love you always and forever"

As for now I'm gonna hear the saddest songs,
and sit alone and wonder,
how you're making out,
and as for me I wish that I was anywhere
with anyone making out'I gotta tell you that he waited all his life
For someone like you to come make the wrong things right
I know he didn't have the answers all the time
But you can't tell me that you've never told a lie
We're almost twenty-three and you're still mad at me
So much that I said to you and I want to take it back now
Twenty-three and it's so sad to me
You tell the world I'm dead to you
But I know you want me back now

stauner
11/27/03, 06:43 PM
I saw DC way back when they were opening for Weezer. Twice! I was so not impressed and was shocked at how popular they got suddenly. I have listened to their stuff, new and old, and was so NOT impressed. I won't listen to them, I think that they are overrated and not cool. In my humble opinion...

worldstheory
11/29/03, 09:33 PM
Here's what I think:

I think that everyone who uses the word emo as a reason to dislike Dashboard (at4inthemornin, chaosandlove, ahem!) needs to shut the fuck up because you don't even know what emo is. Most of the bands that you think are emo are probably pop-punk, and Dashboard is not emo. Hate Dashboard's music if you want, but don't play the emo card.

Personally, I think that the latest album is clearly the worst. If I wasn't already a Dashboard fan when I first heard it, it definitely wouldn't have turned me onto his music. It's not the band thing either. It's the songs. They're just not that good.

I'm a big fan of Swiss Army Romance, Places You Have Come To Fear The Most, and the three EPs. What I love about Dashboard's music is the passion that Carrabba has when he sings/plays. His voice ranges from a high whisper to a hoarse scream at the drop of a hat. (that's what the newest album was lacking, in my opinion) I hate it when people say that he sounds pre-pubescent because of his voice, but anyone who says that doesn't know shit about singing. It's harder to sing high than it is to sing low. And the way he plays guitar is just mind-blowing, because it shatters the whole preconception that an acoustic guitar is the "tame" or "mellow" version of an electric. He just tears into that thing like he's trying to kill it, and it sounds really amazing when he's holding out a long, screaming note at the same time.

Thank you.

OverExposure
11/29/03, 11:22 PM
Yes, Dashboard Confessional suck. Established. Fracking fake emo crap.

unsung_zero02
11/30/03, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by jgirv17
now, im no expert on dashboard confessional....but last time i heard a song it went something like this:

"ohhhhh my name is chris
and i have funny looking hair

::sob::

oh sorry, i forgot i was singing

::ahem::

i loved you, you loved him
im torn between you an a whim

i wish i was a girl so my voice seemed to fit
emo is a lifestyle dadadada it

i wish i could get a girl and we could make out
even though every girl in the world wants me i still cant get laid which means i still have to write about the same things in every song and never change anything up

i have tatoos
im a badass with a soft side and girls love it
no wait, no they dont because i am emooooooooo

love me like i loved you
or kill me which wouldnt be too cool but im depressed about a relationship i had in high school, so i guess it makes no difference"

now i didn't get that off some lyric site, so it may be a little off....but i think thats the basic message of the song.


haha..i have nothing to say about the topic but i just wanted to say that what you posted was funny...

jgirv17
11/30/03, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by unsung_zero02
haha..i have nothing to say about the topic but i just wanted to say that what you posted was funny...

Well, thanks...that song helped me get through a tough period in my life. You know, when I couldn't decide if I wanted the 10/10 power hair gel, or the 8/10. WHAT HOLD SHOULD I GET?! Luckily, I just listened to Chris and used glue.

xnotedgex
12/01/03, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by at4inthemornin
'I'm reading your note over again.
There is not a word that I comprehend,
except when you signed it
"I will love you always and forever"

As for now I'm gonna hear the saddest songs,
and sit alone and wonder,
how you're making out,
and as for me I wish that I was anywhere
with anyone making out'

How can you argue against that....How can you listen to that? Oh and furthermore on the intelligence topic...we can match GPA or class rank, if that would be easier for you --- IQ maybe -- I mean take your pick, smartguy. Never seen a guy get so offended by criticism of an emo pretty boy...oh wait, that's probably because you two are so alike...You just melt with sympathy at Chrissy's strong, strong, lyrics, because you feel everything that he has gone through.. *tear*.. At least my bands have some variety in their musical deliverance and topic -- oh, and thursday -- dont like them either....

'My hopes are so high that you're kiss might kill me...So kiss me so i can die happy.....'

oh gosh -- WHO THE HELL SAYS THAT!

PEACE OUT!

normally i would hate arguing so continuously, but I can't give up now....so i issue a formal apology to all other viewers who might find this annoying.


Warm October nights
You came and cuddled next to me
Our noses brushed so close
I wished it was our souls
Drifting off to sleep
I could hear the little snores you made
Watching eyes shut tight
Like doors to something sweeter where you rest

1.playing the lyrics card gets you nowhere because the bands you have in your sig sing about the same shit

2.im not really a big fan of dashboard, i just think it's stupid when people bash him because they're jealous

3.I don't really care about your intelligence, but people who boast a bout are obviously insecure about it

4.No one cares if you like thursday or not

5. I guarantee you that my musical tastes are more diverse than yours. furthermore, i guarantee that you've never heard of at least 50% of the bands that i listen to on a regular basis

6. people taking part in this message board would be readers, not viewers...your superior intelligence should have told you that

at4inthemornin
12/02/03, 07:46 AM
1. Thank for restating my point. I know they sing about the same shit, but they deliver it oh so much better.

2. I am jealous of his money, that is all. He can take his tattoos and shove them up his ass along with his 11 yr old girl audience.

3. Once I got into a top 40 college I lost my intelligence insecurity

4. Congratulations on listening to diverse music...but I bet that i know more than 50% of them.

5. Viewers works just fine in this context. Was that an attempt at asserting your intellectual dominance or something?

xnotedgex
12/02/03, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by at4inthemornin
1. Thank for restating my point. I know they sing about the same shit, but they deliver it oh so much better.

2. I am jealous of his money, that is all. He can take his tattoos and shove them up his ass along with his 11 yr old girl audience.

3. Once I got into a top 40 college I lost my intelligence insecurity

4. Congratulations on listening to diverse music...but I bet that i know more than 50% of them.

5. Viewers works just fine in this context. Was that an attempt at asserting your intellectual dominance or something?

1.you qouted his lyrics in your previous post, making no mention of his delivery, implying that the lyrics were the focus of your argument, not the delivery

2. tattoos and fanbase have nothing to do with musical talent or writing skills

3.top 40??? hahahahaha

4.no need to debate this point

5.the word viewer is synonomous with 'watcher'....people looking at this website are not watching it, they are reading what is displayed...you do not 'view' books, you do not 'view magazines'...same principle applies here

at4inthemornin
12/02/03, 10:02 AM
1. Dude...Do I need to put lyrics on here again?! 'I wish I was anywhere making out' -- that is a direct quote from one of his songs....now are you telling me i should compliment song writing skills like that? And playing rather uncomplicated guitar chords on an acoustic guitar does not make him better than any other emo band in the world...You are putting up quite a roundabout argument and effort to defend a band you don't really like....I think someone has a crush

2. He can sing...but he whines. His lyrics suck~ they are juvenile and something the depressed kid in the corner would scribble on his notebook. I think that covers it.

3. Top 40 yes...would you like to check the statistics? I don't see how thats funny.

4. This forum, albeit a forum, is a webpage is it not?! People are viewing this webpage...by viewing the webpage they are reading the text. Let's try and attack more intricate details you ignorant bastard...

~ well put jgirv17

xnotedgex
12/02/03, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by at4inthemornin
1. Dude...Do I need to put lyrics on here again?! 'I wish I was anywhere making out' -- that is a direct quote from one of his songs....now are you telling me i should compliment song writing skills like that? And playing rather uncomplicated guitar chords on an acoustic guitar does not make him better than any other emo band in the world...You are putting up quite a roundabout argument and effort to defend a band you don't really like....I think someone has a crush

2. He can sing...but he whines. His lyrics suck~ they are juvenile and something the depressed kid in the corner would scribble on his notebook. I think that covers it.

3. Top 40 yes...would you like to check the statistics? I don't see how thats funny.

4. This forum, albeit a forum, is a webpage is it not?! People are viewing this webpage...by viewing the webpage they are reading the text. Let's try and attack more intricate details you ignorant bastard...

~ well put jgirv17

1.I don't understand the accusations of roundabout argument...am i the one who recites lyrics, then says it's not the lyrics it's the delivery, and then goes back and criticizes the lyrics again? im just wondering, i got a little confused, which one of us did that? criticize his lyrics all you want, it's just hypocritical to qoute matchbook romance and then put him down...i also think it's pretty mature to make assumptions about one's romantic/sexual feelings because they argue with you and make you look like a fool

2.once again, putting him down for whining but not criticizing such bands as matchbook romance for doing the same thing is hypocritical....and yet again, his lyrics are similar to bands you qoute, making you a hypocrite once again here

3.hey, im not arguing that you go to a top 40 school...i just think it's funny that you think that distinguishes you in any way...top 40 isn't all that prestigious in my book

4.No, by viewing the web page they are using their sense of sight, not comprehension

at4inthemornin
12/02/03, 12:46 PM
Wow man ~ everything has to be spelled out for you. I can tell why you spend so much time on here. Probably no one to hang out with...but anyway.

You've convoluted, reversed, twisted, and just FUCKED UP the flow of this entire argument, so I will restate once and for all.

1. Dashboard Confessional~ well first of all, they are EMO. Whoever the kid is that disagrees with that is retarded. If chris corrabba let his hair hang over his eyes and plastered it down, then would he be EMO? Just wondering.

2. Yes, Dashboard and every other emo/pop-punk band sing about subject matter this relatively the same. This is true, to some extent. But I don't think you will find any other lyricist singing 'As for now I'm gonna hear the saddest songs,
and sit alone and wonder,
how you're making out,
and as for me I wish that I was anywhere
with anyone making out' or 'my hopes are so high, that your kiss might kill me, so kiss me so i can die happy' or whatever. DOES YELLOWCARD OR MATCHBOOK ROMANCE(SINCE YOU LIKE TO REFER TO THEM SOOOO MUCH) SAY THINGS SO SPECIFICALLY AS THAT. ~~~ i mean goddamn man, every band sings about love, but not everyone sings it like Chris Corrabba. thats my fucking point. It's how the lyrics are written, and its how the music is played. I think Chris plays and writes like a whiney bastard. And that seems to be a pretty popular opinion. So don't say that he isnt the whiniest songwriter in the business.

3. I'm more mature than you will ever be. I just think its cute how you defend Chris.

4. Top 40 out of 3000 4 yr colleges in the US ~ sounds kinda prestigious to me...

5. Are television viewers not comprehending what they watch? Or just mindlessly following moving pictures....What an inane point.

rancidrules
12/02/03, 02:22 PM
well put.:D

worldstheory
12/02/03, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by at4inthemornin
1. Dashboard Confessional~ well first of all, they are EMO. Whoever the kid is that disagrees with that is retarded. If chris corrabba let his hair hang over his eyes and plastered it down, then would he be EMO? Just wondering.God you're dumb. You don't know what the fuck emo is. I can forgive you for that though because most people think DC is emo. I suppose it's because you heard it on MTV, as if the people on the MTV have any clue what emo is. But that hair statement... wow you're stupid. Emo has nothing to do with hair. God you're dumb.

The lyrics argument is bullshit if you take the absolute worst example you can find and explain to us why it's bad. Here is a more typical example of Carrabba's lyrical ability. This song is called "Turpentine Chaser", but you've never heard it cause it's not a single on MTV.

This paint has been tasting of lead
And the chips will fall as they may
But it's not just my finish that's peeling
And it's not alone fleeing these walls
Well sooner or later this cold
It's gonna break so our hands will be warm again
But all I want is not to need you now
And sooner or later this code
It's gonna break so our words will be heard again
But all I want are vows of silence now
This turpentine chaser's got kick
And the rag that it's soaked in is rich
But the fumes aide the pace of my cleaning
And as soon as I'm done I am gone.
The frightening facts we've been facing our backs to
For so long now are begging for eyes
To bear witness to lies and indifference
Now we're saying aloud
The things we've declared in our silence
The new coats of paint will not reaquaint
Broken hearts to broken homes

jgirv17
12/02/03, 08:10 PM
One song with un-emo lyrics does not make DC not emo. That's like saying Simple Plan making a Political song makes them Political Punks. Or Brand New having horns in one song makes them ska. It doesn't work that way. You have to look at the whole picture....and with DC, that whole picture is a mess of tatoos, tears, and bad hair.

worldstheory
12/02/03, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by jgirv17
One song with un-emo lyrics does not make DC not emo. That's like saying Simple Plan making a Political song makes them Political Punks. Or Brand New having horns in one song makes them ska. It doesn't work that way. You have to look at the whole picture....and with DC, that whole picture is a mess of tatoos, tears, and bad hair. Wow, you really really missed my point. The lyrics I posted were not to say "hey these lyrics are un-emo so DC is not emo", they lyrics were to contradict this guy who said that their lyrics are very poor (he quoted lines from "Screaming Infidelities" and "Hands Down")

As a matter of fact, those lyrics from "Turpentine Chaser" are a very typical example of Dashboard lyrics. If you had listened to more than just some Dashboard singles, you would know this.

Nothing about Dashboard is emo. There is no Dashboard song that is emo. You don't have any idea what emo is. Emo is a musical style that was a movement from hardcore punk in the 1980s, with bands like Rites of Spring and Fugazi (bands that you have not heard of). And no amount of "poorly written" lyrics or bangs in the eyes can make Dashboard emo.

takingbackrufio
12/02/03, 09:36 PM
I'm beginning to less and less like the whole idea of categorizing bands.

Dashboard Confessional is Dashboard Confessional. Agreed?

jgirv17
12/03/03, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by worldstheory
Wow, you really really missed my point. The lyrics I posted were not to say "hey these lyrics are un-emo so DC is not emo", they lyrics were to contradict this guy who said that their lyrics are very poor (he quoted lines from "Screaming Infidelities" and "Hands Down")

As a matter of fact, those lyrics from "Turpentine Chaser" are a very typical example of Dashboard lyrics. If you had listened to more than just some Dashboard singles, you would know this.

Nothing about Dashboard is emo. There is no Dashboard song that is emo. You don't have any idea what emo is. Emo is a musical style that was a movement from hardcore punk in the 1980s, with bands like Rites of Spring and Fugazi (bands that you have not heard of). And no amount of "poorly written" lyrics or bangs in the eyes can make Dashboard emo.

It is a good thing I have never heard of a huge emo staple such as Fugazi....or else you would just look like a jackass

I really like how people jump to conclusions that they apparently know about bands and others just are ignorant to them. Just because you think no one has heard of them (including myself) doesn't mean they really haven't.

Furthermore, to say that Dashboard Confessional isn't emo seems rather ignorant. True, they aren't the same "emo" that was around during those days I have no idea about, but that doesn't mean their lyric content isn't emo. The guy is emotional....about a girl. I'm sorry, if that isn't emo, please tell me what it really is? Even the song lyrics you put up could be interpreted to be about his "suffering" after losing his girl. Vows of Silence? If we could only be so lucky

Oh, and make sure to use bands I know about.....not something you think is too obscure for my musical tastes...

xnotedgex
12/03/03, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by at4inthemornin
Wow man ~ everything has to be spelled out for you. I can tell why you spend so much time on here. Probably no one to hang out with...but anyway.

You've convoluted, reversed, twisted, and just FUCKED UP the flow of this entire argument, so I will restate once and for all.

1. Dashboard Confessional~ well first of all, they are EMO. Whoever the kid is that disagrees with that is retarded. If chris corrabba let his hair hang over his eyes and plastered it down, then would he be EMO? Just wondering.

2. Yes, Dashboard and every other emo/pop-punk band sing about subject matter this relatively the same. This is true, to some extent. But I don't think you will find any other lyricist singing 'As for now I'm gonna hear the saddest songs,
and sit alone and wonder,
how you're making out,
and as for me I wish that I was anywhere
with anyone making out' or 'my hopes are so high, that your kiss might kill me, so kiss me so i can die happy' or whatever. DOES YELLOWCARD OR MATCHBOOK ROMANCE(SINCE YOU LIKE TO REFER TO THEM SOOOO MUCH) SAY THINGS SO SPECIFICALLY AS THAT. ~~~ i mean goddamn man, every band sings about love, but not everyone sings it like Chris Corrabba. thats my fucking point. It's how the lyrics are written, and its how the music is played. I think Chris plays and writes like a whiney bastard. And that seems to be a pretty popular opinion. So don't say that he isnt the whiniest songwriter in the business.

3. I'm more mature than you will ever be. I just think its cute how you defend Chris.

4. Top 40 out of 3000 4 yr colleges in the US ~ sounds kinda prestigious to me...

5. Are television viewers not comprehending what they watch? Or just mindlessly following moving pictures....What an inane point.

Actually, it seems to me that you're on here just as much if you reply to everything i say. The reason I'm on here, as I've stated before, is because I'm bored at work and people like you are entertaining.

Anway,

1.The category you place his music in doesn't really matter. What matter is whether you like it or not. To say something is bad because it is emo is ignorant (but I can see how this might apply in your case)

2.There's a place off Ocean Avenue
Where I used to sit and talk with you
We were both 16
And it felt so right
Sleeping all day, staying up all night
Staying up all night

There's a place on the corner of Cherry Street
We would walk on the beach in our bare feet
We were both 18
And it felt so right
Sleeping all day, staying up all night
Staying up all night

- the mighty Yellowcard

And tonight,
I close my eyes and dream that she is still the one,
laying there beside me
I'd walk a thousand miles
I'd swim across the sea
What do I have to do, please just tell me

-the lyrical machine that is matchbook romance

what would you say if i asked you not to go
to forget everyone, forget everything and start over with me
would you take my hand and never let me go
promise me you'll never let me go

-matchbook romance, in all their glory

simply put, yes their lyrics are the exact same thing...they sing about the same exact stuff...and im just curious, since when did playing acoustic guitar make you a whiny bastard? james taylor plays acoustic...does he play whiny?? bob dylan plays acoustic...does he play whiny??

3.By saying "I'm more mature than you'll ever be", you contradict that very statement. And it's not even true. You honestly think you're more mature than a 70 year old? Aww, you threw in a keyword like cute to try and make yourself look cute. That was special.

4.Get accepted to a top 10 school...I'll respect you then

5.You lumped the sense of sight and ability to comprehend into the same activity...actually for a television viewer to comprehend what is going on, not only do they "view" the tv, they also listen to what is being said or the noises being made...both are necessary for comprehension

xnotedgex
12/03/03, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by jgirv17
One song with un-emo lyrics does not make DC not emo. That's like saying Simple Plan making a Political song makes them Political Punks. Or Brand New having horns in one song makes them ska. It doesn't work that way. You have to look at the whole picture....and with DC, that whole picture is a mess of tatoos, tears, and bad hair.

you obviously judge dashboard on his popular songs (like the other guy does)...go read his other lyrics, try knowing what you're talking about when you criticize it...that seems to be a trend with you (brand new)

and you're right all musicians should be judged by their appearance (tattoos, tears, and bad hair)

don't worry, you'll learn to be secure with yourself sooner or later

Alex Djaferis
12/03/03, 07:39 AM
i got bored of Dashboard over time...i used to LOVE most of his songs. Swiss army....the places you have come to fear the most etc. those were awesome.
I think i grew up faster then him tho...lol, i cant really listen to that kind of break up songs anymore. Just got bored. Hes talented tho.

jgirv17
12/03/03, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by xnotedgex
you obviously judge dashboard on his popular songs (like the other guy does)...go read his other lyrics, try knowing what you're talking about when you criticize it...that seems to be a trend with you (brand new)

and you're right all musicians should be judged by their appearance (tattoos, tears, and bad hair)

don't worry, you'll learn to be secure with yourself sooner or later

First off, I am familiar with a lot of his/their songs other than the popular ones. While not owning the cd myself, I have heard mainly all of the cds. My roommate listens to DC all the time, my best friend does too, so did my ex-girlfriend. I am sorry if this doesn't qualify me to have an opinion on the subject. Oh, and by the way, I did give Brand New numerous chances. In fact, I am even going to see them tonight with Rancid, to give them another one.

I wasn't judging him on his appearance, I was merely making a slight joke. If I did judge people by appearance, I would thinnk Good Charlotte and Avril Lavigne are punk. I am not naive.

On the other hand, I did judge DC on its lyrics. Isn't that what the argument was about? If you listen to the lyrics, they are obviously "emo." I didn't really say that is why I dislike them, either. I was simply stating that to say DC is not emo because a few of their songs do not have "emo" lyrics would be wrong. My main reason for disliking them is just the sound, such as the whiney voice (he could sing about anything and I wouldn't like the way it sounded). Most of my other posts here have been more like jokes than anything else.

takingbackrufio
12/03/03, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by PeeDster
i got bored of Dashboard over time...i used to LOVE most of his songs. Swiss army....the places you have come to fear the most etc. those were awesome.
I think i grew up faster then him tho...lol, i cant really listen to that kind of break up songs anymore. Just got bored. Hes talented tho. Well said. You can't deny he's got talent, look at how popular he got with his voice and an acoustic guitar.

at4inthemornin
12/03/03, 01:15 PM
But all I want is not to need you now
And sooner or later this code
It's gonna break so our words will be heard again

~ who the hell are you to say that is not emo?! I didn't know you wrote the definition? Fugazi, Rites of Spring -- ive heard of both of them actually. I bet you dont know what ROS is named after, smart guy? It's actually a book/play...bet you didnt know that?!

Also, to the untrained eye...that sounds a lot like a Yellowcard or Matchbook Romance lyric doesnt it?! And yes i know that Yellowcard and Matchbook write really sappy chick lyrics but also like i have said a million times, they play it with more energy and its more entertaining.

About the Acoustic Guitar - James Taylor and Bob Dylan are infinitely more talented guitarists than your godly chris corraba. That's a pretty weak relation, i would have thought someone as smart as yourself would have been able to infer what i was talking about. JT and BD play music that is so much better than DC...its called classic rock...not classic emo, last time i checked that is. I'm still not sure what EMO is apparently...cuz Rites of Spring might be considered classic emo too...

DC is the same guitar chords slammed on a acoustic guitar with Chris's WHINEY ASS high pitched voice in the background...that is what seperates his music from others.... The lyrics, paired with his delivery of the content. ~ ive said that atleast 3 times.

And is DC even on MTV? I guess i dont watch TV enough... Oh wait...i just dont know music, thats right. Because all of you guys listen to bands that stupid me has never heard of. I love that assumption. What if i said i owned Swiss Army/Places You've Come to fear the most.....Guess thatd make you feel dumb ~ I just stopped listening to his music after i realized everything sounded alike and he sings about breaking up 80% of the time....

What now...

Hey...mr. Top 10...did you even go to college?

worldstheory
12/03/03, 05:16 PM
I really like how people jump to conclusions that they apparently know about bands and others just are ignorant to them. Just because you think no one has heard of them (including myself) doesn't mean they really haven't.I was just using that attitude to piss you off. Obviously it worked.
me: 1
jgirv17: 0!

True, they aren't the same "emo" that was around during those days I have no idea about, but that doesn't mean their lyric content isn't emo. The guy is emotional....about a girl. I'm sorry, if that isn't emo, please tell me what it really is? Even the song lyrics you put up could be interpreted to be about his "suffering" after losing his girl. Vows of Silence? If we could only be so luckyI said it once and I'll say it again. Those lyrics I put up from Turpentine Chaser were not me saying "Look these lyrics aren't about losing a girl." They were me saying "Here are some lyrics that I consider 'good' to prove that Carrabba's not as bad a lyricist as he was being made out to be."

There is no such thing as "emo lyrics". Emo is a style of music. Lyrics cannot make music emo. Take the following lyrics for example: "I was hanging with the fellas, saw you with your new boyfriend it made me jealous, I was hoping that I'd never see you with him, but it's all good cause I'm glad that I met him, cause now I know the competition's very slim to none, and I can tell my looking that he's not the one, he's not the type you said you like, style is wack, clothes are bad, come on girl, let him go, I want you back." I bet you think that sounds pretty emo. In case you don't recognize them, that's N Sync. So is N Sync emo? I hope you don't say yes, but I'll let you decide.

My main reason for disliking them is just the sound, such as the whiney voice (he could sing about anything and I wouldn't like the way it sounded).That's fair.

I bet you dont know what ROS is named after, smart guy? It's actually a book/play...bet you didnt know that?!Who cares? I don't even like Rites of Spring. I'm not trying to be some kind of music expert who knows everything about all these pioneer bands. I just like to have my facts straight.

What if i said i owned Swiss Army/Places You've Come to fear the most.....Guess thatd make you feel dumb ~ I just stopped listening to his music after i realized everything sounded alike and he sings about breaking up 80% of the time....That's fair. If you have heard the songs and don't like the way they sound, then that's reason enough to not like DC. But don't bring in all this bullshit about "emo lyrics"

xforgetdecember
12/03/03, 05:45 PM
The old school emo rocks.

But like every genre, emo evolved (and for the worst, in most cases, I guess) and became broad over time. Dashboard Confessional isn't that bad. He kicks all the recent pop-punk-emo music's ass, as a matter of fact. Or most of it. And by modern standards, he does make emo music. But like.. pop-emo. You know?

I'm a sucker for the remake of "Hands Down". And "The Places You Have Come to Fear the Most". And most of the songs off of his EPs. The only thing that bothers me are the people who think Chris invented emo. Or people that think they're emo because they listen to him - but that isn't his fault.

at4inthemornin
12/03/03, 05:50 PM
Okay...i'm glad you have distinguished between what is fair and what's not.

however ~ your example of DC lyrics...they double as proof that DC is emo...Emo is a style of music and DC fits into it like a cinderalla's lost slipper.

Nsync.. is friggin the worst example ever... they are pop.

DC lyrics paired with DC guitar paired with Chris Corraba voice style = EMO



Singing about girls doesnt = EMO

Singing about girls with a voice and instrumental like DC = EMO

worldstheory
12/03/03, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by at4inthemornin
however ~ your example of DC lyrics...they double as proof that DC is emo...Emo is a style of music and DC fits into it like a cinderalla's lost slipper.

DC lyrics paired with DC guitar paired with Chris Corraba voice style = EMO

Singing about girls with a voice and instrumental like DC = EMO That's bullshit. Name one emo band with instrumentals like DC. Name one band of ANY GENRE with instrumentals similar enough to DC that you would call them the same genre. You can't, because Carrabba doesn't attempt to align himself with any particular genre. Well, maybe John Mayer or someone like that might sound like the same genre, but don't even try to say that HE is emo.

So no emo lyrics, no emo musical style...... not emo.

jgirv17
12/03/03, 09:11 PM
What do you consider his music then? Other than good....

If someone asked you to classify Dashboard would you be like one of those people who are like "Classification is masturbation," and make it sound important?

My main reason for disliking DC is the sound....not the lyrics. I have never tried to bash what I consider "emo" because there are plenty of bands with those lyrics that I like.

jgirv17
12/03/03, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by worldstheory
I used to really like them a lot. I bought their CD before i was familiar with their 'image'. And thought it was mostly great. Which it still is, except for the obvious stinkers like "My Alien" (shudder), and the few songs where they make references to being grounded, not studying for their tests, and having to follow their parents' rules, when they're in like their mid-twenties.

My problem with them is the fact that they pursue a fanbase of ten-year-old girls. (Hillary Duff's birthday bash anyone?)

I still think that most of their songs are really good, but I have trouble listening to them anymore without conguring images in my mind of Hillary Duff lip-syncing the words with tears in her eyes on her birthday, and then hugging Pierre afterwards.

Fortunately I don't have mtv so that's not a problem.

That's from the thing on Simple Plan that I just read....

Tell me, please, what fanbase, exactly, Dashboard has?

at4inthemornin
12/03/03, 11:19 PM
^busted...mothafucka...i read that too before


DC's sound does not equal every and all emo sounds you idiot...

impossiblyso
12/04/03, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by xforgetdecember
I liked Chris better in Further Seems Forever. But Jason's probably a better vocalist, anyway.

..Dashboard Confessional is over-rated, but I wouldn't say it totally blows. I like some of the songs off the EPs.

hit the nail on the head there!

xnotedgex
12/04/03, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by at4inthemornin
But all I want is not to need you now
And sooner or later this code
It's gonna break so our words will be heard again

~ who the hell are you to say that is not emo?! I didn't know you wrote the definition? Fugazi, Rites of Spring -- ive heard of both of them actually. I bet you dont know what ROS is named after, smart guy? It's actually a book/play...bet you didnt know that?!

Also, to the untrained eye...that sounds a lot like a Yellowcard or Matchbook Romance lyric doesnt it?! And yes i know that Yellowcard and Matchbook write really sappy chick lyrics but also like i have said a million times, they play it with more energy and its more entertaining.

About the Acoustic Guitar - James Taylor and Bob Dylan are infinitely more talented guitarists than your godly chris corraba. That's a pretty weak relation, i would have thought someone as smart as yourself would have been able to infer what i was talking about. JT and BD play music that is so much better than DC...its called classic rock...not classic emo, last time i checked that is. I'm still not sure what EMO is apparently...cuz Rites of Spring might be considered classic emo too...

DC is the same guitar chords slammed on a acoustic guitar with Chris's WHINEY ASS high pitched voice in the background...that is what seperates his music from others.... The lyrics, paired with his delivery of the content. ~ ive said that atleast 3 times.

And is DC even on MTV? I guess i dont watch TV enough... Oh wait...i just dont know music, thats right. Because all of you guys listen to bands that stupid me has never heard of. I love that assumption. What if i said i owned Swiss Army/Places You've Come to fear the most.....Guess thatd make you feel dumb ~ I just stopped listening to his music after i realized everything sounded alike and he sings about breaking up 80% of the time....

What now...

Hey...mr. Top 10...did you even go to college?

ok, you're boring now and your opinions have become too off-base to argue with (james taylor...classic rock????)

but to answer your last question, i attended fsu (distance, money thing)...but was accepted to duke and uva as i said in another topic where some idiot was talking about the 20 schools where he applied

at4inthemornin
12/04/03, 07:18 AM
Ha...

I think James Taylor fits into Classic Rock pretty well...would you prefer progressive blue grass or something like that?

FSU/Duke/UVa --- ill accept that

worldstheory
12/04/03, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by jgirv17
What do you consider his music then? Other than good....What it actually "is", I'd just call it acoustic pop-rock. What I would group it with would be pop-punk, just because he's part of the same scene as pop-punk.

If someone asked you to classify Dashboard would you be like one of those people who are like "Classification is masturbation," and make it sound important?No, I hate those kids. I classify my music up the ass.

My main reason for disliking DC is the sound....not the lyrics. I have never tried to bash what I consider "emo" because there are plenty of bands with those lyrics that I like.Fine.

That's from the thing on Simple Plan that I just read....

Tell me, please, what fanbase, exactly, Dashboard has?Mostly pop-punk fans, comprised of boys AND girls, including a huge chunk of the membership here at AP. Clearly you are implying that Simple Plan and Chris Carrabba have the same fanbase. This is wrong.

Pennywise
12/07/03, 07:56 AM
I personally think Chris Corraba is really talented. You dont have to like the music but you do have to have respect for what he does. I think hes an exellent performer and Chris Carraba has a unique voice that really flows with the music genre and type of songs that he makes. .

As for who ever said he sounds like a twelve year old who's going through puberty..wow that really doesnt make sence..seens how he's over 20. Well anyway thats just a stupid comment...

at4inthemornin
12/07/03, 04:42 PM
i didnt say it....but i think it could make sense...

considering he sounds like a soprano in a highschool chorus...doesnt matter how old he is in reality.

Claudio from Coheed and Jordan(?) from NFG have really high voices too but damn their bands are just so much better...

NFG and Coheed any day over Dashboard

worldstheory
12/07/03, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by at4inthemornin
considering he sounds like a soprano in a highschool chorus...doesnt matter how old he is in reality. No he doesn't. His voice ranges from about first or second tenor down to about baritone.