Blink 182

[xforgetdecember]

I understand that this is the band that got a lot of people interested in the music they listen to now, but I still really don't care for them. I know they made pop-punk as.. uh.. popular as it is now, but regardless, I don't see them as being all that special.

The vocals annoy me, personally, and I just don't care for the lyrics - even on the recent album. I bet they're good guys and all, but.. I don't know. They're just not my thing.

Neither is pop-punk; I only really enjoy Alkaline Trio and Sugarcult.
So my opinion may be a little biased.

But I was just wondering if anyone else felt the same, seeing as there are so many threads praising this band.

[Alex Djaferis]

i respect your opinion, but sugarcult? come on ;) hehehe

[Highway Donkey]

I never really liked blink 182 that much... they're ok but nothing amazing. I really like the new album though.

[cory-182]

xforgetdecember said that they didn't like pop punk. However, they listen to Sugarcult, which is pop punk. And to clear things up, blink-182 is the best band ever.

[Highway Donkey]

Originally posted by cory-182
xforgetdecember said that they didn't like pop punk. However, they listen to Sugarcult, which is pop punk. And to clear things up, blink-182 is the best band ever.

Take some time and read posts more carefully. They said they don't like pop-punk with the exception of Alkaline Trio and Sugarcult.


...and blink-182 is far from the best band ever.

[xforgetdecember]

Originally posted by Highway Donkey
Take some time and read posts more carefully. They said they don't like pop-punk with the exception of Alkaline Trio and Sugarcult.


...and blink-182 is far from the best band ever.

Thank you, Mister Highway Donkey Person.

I'm flattered that Cory decided to use his first post to try and.. uh.. do whatever he was trying to do, though.

..And about Sugarcult. It's my only "I-can't-explain-it-I-just-like-them" band. I do dig some pretty mediocre to crappy stuff.

[at4inthemornin]

I am not a biased opinion.

Blink 182(dude ranch) and Less Than Jake (greased) were actually the first CDS i listened to that got me into this particular genre of music...This is in the broadest of senses - linking SkaPunk and Punk. But anyway...I am definitely more of a Enema of the State fan, when it comes to blink. I really liked a few songs on Dude Ranch...but I actually like Chesire Cate more than DR....Take off Your Pants and Jacket was a really cool album i thought...it was a small advancement musically and lyrically to some extent...it was definitely more poppy and all that but I had a good time listening to it and that's what its all about. the new album seems much more deep and you have to respect that they can last this long and change their sound...I think they definitely deserve at least respect for bringing about the popularization of punk. and they are definitely influences of all the newer stuff you here today..that is undeniable.

and...I wouldn't consider Alkaline Trio pop-punk I don't think -- but I'm no expert -- I'm just a newbie with too much time on his hands.

Blink is definitely one of my favs...despite having pretty uncomplicated songs....gotta love it :)

[takingbackrufio]

Obviously this was coming, there's so many people out there who are outspoken critics of Blink 182 (ahem, I mean the new and improved blink 182).

You're best words in that post were 'there just not my thing' ... everybody has a band that they just can't get into. Take me for example, I can't get into Something Corporate or Dashboard. That's cool though, I still think their good musicians.

Personally, this new album was a reminder of why I loved this band so much in the first place. But now, I love them so much more, because I realize what they've done with their music ... they've changed it. To my liking and I'm certain, other people's liking. blink 182 is one of the few bands that got me through the teenage stage in my life, and they still are.

Your opinion is good though, at least you have the guts to put it out there.

[Lueda Alia]

I too, respect your opinion, but I have to say that I love Blink and I always will, no matter how many fans turn their backs on the band.

I've liked this band for as long as I can remember. And to me, they're still awesome. They will always be. :)

[em0]

this is taking my thoughts on blink-182 from a different thread. i'm just going to post it here relating to them, boxcar racer and whoever says they suck because they sold out or whatever. from what i've seen so far no one has directly insulted them by calling them sellouts or anything else for that matter just expressing their opinion that they don't enjoy them much. so hopefully this doesn't offend anyone and it's also not directed towards anyone.

first of all the only cd that i can really consider a "down fall" of blink-182 is "enema of the state" which wasn't even THAT bad. new blink-182 album is simply amazing. i've listened and loved this band from dude ranch and suported them 100%. i'm not affraid to admit i'm a blink-182 fan boy. they got me into this music and i'm not one to abandon and hate them because they "sold out" as most of you would say or became mtv material. they have been working hard as a band since 1992 and i think it's about damn time they got the recognition this band deserves.

as for boxcar racer yes, they did almost break blink-182 up. mark wasn't too happy being left out i think his direct quote was "i felt like the stupid left out bassist" and i believe it's in either the new alternative press or rolling stones. the new blink-182 album has a boxcar racer touch, but get it through your heads it's still blink-182 and better than ever. boxcar racer is and was nothing compared to blink-182. tom changed his style of singing when he went into boxcar racer and dragged it onto the new blink album and i'm not too much a fan of it so as far as i'm concerned boxcar racer was absolute trash. the only thing i'd change on the new album is get more of mark singing.

the new blink-182 album actually has a little bit of originality. compare lyrics from the new album to lyrics from their past. this band has come so far from songs like "what's my age again" and "all the small things" sure they were catchy but read the lyrics they were fun, immature lyrics. now let's look at one of their new songs "i miss you".

Hello there, the angel from my nightmare
The shadow in the background of the morgue
The unsuspecting victim of darkness in the valley
We can live like Jack and Sally if we want
Where you can always find me
We'll have Halloween on Christmas
And in the night we'll wish this never ends
We'll wish this never ends

Don't waste your time on me you're already
The voice inside my head (I miss you miss you)
Don't waste your time on me you're already
The voice inside my head (I miss you miss you)

Where are you and I'm so sorry
I cannot sleep I cannot dream tonight
I need somebody and always
This sick strange darkness
Comes creeping on so haunting every time
And as I stared I counted
Webs from all the spiders
Catching things and eating their insides
Like indecision to call you
and hear your voice of treason
Will you come home and stop this pain tonight
Stop this pain tonight

simply amazing lyrics. blink-182 has grown so much from when they released their very first demo flyswatter. their songs now have a touch of originality and their lyrics are amazing. i'm just so sick of people bashing blink-182 because they are "not what they use to be" or they "sold out" or "they are on mtv". put yourself in their position with your band, you are in it to have a good time, make fans, and money...and that's EXACTLY what blink-182 did. stop trying to impress people by bashing this band left and right, like what you like and stop being affraid to like a band because everyone else thinks differently of them. i get so much shit from my friends because i have always been a huge blink-182 fan...i take it because i personally don't give a shit. i absolutely love this band, say what you want the new blink-182 album is amazing.

[xnotedgex]

calling or thinking people call blink 182 sellouts is so 2001

[Touched]

I hold no shame liking them, they have some iffy songs but their new stuff seems good.

[Lueda Alia]

em0 ~ lol you're my new best friend ;)

[shut.the.door]

Originally posted by xnotedgex
calling or thinking people call blink 182 sellouts is so 2001

:laugh:

[Chadwick]

I always say I dont like blink, and I always say they suck, but in the end, I always end up buying their new cds!

[mikeduin620]

blink 182 kicks ass, period. as everyone has said....3/4 of the people interested in this genre of music wouldnt be there if it werent for blink. the new album has definitely grown a lot on me, im a big fan, though "going away to college" remains my alltime favorite blink song.

[feelingthis]

i been a fan of blink 182 since dude ranch and they are always going to be a favorite band of mine. in my opinion now there are so much more devoloped music bands out there. and i like alot of bands still always blink 182 will be my favorite out all time. still my point is that there is to many bands to choose from since they all sound very similiar these days but there is a lot of good bands. such as Midtown, Yellowcard, Thursday, Thrice..

[jtaz87]

Being a huge blink 182 fan i have to stand up for them. I respect your opinion, but mine is different. Blink 182 is my favorite band. True they aren't "that special".. but they been around for a long time and to me they just get better and better and theirs not one album i don't dislike. I'm sure its just i have dif. tatse then you. Sugarcults good, but i dont think their anything original.

[Lueda Alia]

Originally posted by Chadwick
I always say I dont like blink, and I always say they suck, but in the end, I always end up buying their new cds!

lol isn't that what everyone says/does ;)

[xforgetdecember]

Aww.. I feel so out-numbered. Go figure.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Originally posted by feelingthis
i been a fan of blink 182 since dude ranch and they are always going to be a favorite band of mine. in my opinion now there are so much more devoloped music bands out there. and i like alot of bands still always blink 182 will be my favorite out all time. still my point is that there is to many bands to choose from since they all sound very similiar these days but there is a lot of good bands. such as Midtown, Yellowcard, Thursday, Thrice..

please, for the love of music, don't lump Midtown and Yellowcard with Thursday and Thrice, ever again. totally different styles of music. Midtown is traditional pop-punk lyrics with a 3 voice melody. Yellowcard is traditional pop-punk lyrics with a violin.

Thursday and Thrice are completely different. Geoff and Dustin are, imo, 2 of the best songwriters out there today. Geoff writes big, long, running metaphors that spread out over the entirety of a record, and I'm not sure if Dustin has ever written a song not completely laced with metaphors. And thats why I love them both. In a hetero way.

[punkpixie]

I like blink. I always have and always will. They introduced me to everything I am into now and in turn helped me to find out who I was. The music I listen to now helps me to realize that I should just be myself. If it wasn't for blink 182 I would never have found that and to them I am eternally greatful.:cheesy:

[em0]

i totally agree with what playswithfire last said.

[at4inthemornin]

em0 ... I feel you .... I got so much shit for liking blink....but i defended them valiantly against all my phish/dmb loving hippie ass jamband loving, punk hating, friends :) --- gotta represent!

[funeralfriend1]

Blink 182 is a great band. All the haters need to realize that Blink opened lots of doors for countless other punk bands. You can't deny their success, so back off. Plus, I'm going to the Blink show tonight in Hollywood and it's going to kick ass. Kick your ass, that is. yep.

[xforgetdecember]

Originally posted by funeralfriend1
Blink 182 is a great band. All the haters need to realize that Blink opened lots of doors for countless other punk bands. You can't deny their success, so back off. Plus, I'm going to the Blink show tonight in Hollywood and it's going to kick ass. Kick your ass, that is. yep.

..Uh-huh. I would've thought Green Day opened that door, or had a greater part in doing so. But that's just me. And these "countless other punk bands" we could do without, anyway. Most of them aren't that great and have terrible lyrics. Blink 182 isn't much better than Good Charlotte and Simple Plan and New Found Glory. The only difference is that Blink 182's been fucking up the punk genre for a good deal longer.

It's nice that they're successful, but quite frankly, I'd never want to be successful through appealing to a very shallow media and creating repetitive music over and over again.

[!!*Debs*!!]

of course theyre not gonna still be the same, i mean come on, theyve been around longer than 10years, its obvious that theyre gonna change in some ways at least! in saying that though, i do have to say that i really like them. i think theyre an amazing band and ive liked them since the first time i heard them.
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i dunno if its the new album coming out or whatever but ive been in a VERY blink mood recently, i just havent stopped listening to them! i havent heard the new album yet, but i ordered it the other day so it should be arriving anytime soon and i just cant wait for it!!

[em0]

xforgetdecember there is a big difference between blink-182 and the other bands you listed. take a listen to the new album and listen to the originality they put into it. listen to their new lyrics and realize that it's actually really amazing this time around. you are probably going to say 'i heard feeling this and it sucked'. listen to the restof the album.

you also said blink-182 is fucking up the punk scene. stop caring about the fucking 'scene' and care about the music. you are definetly one of the people i was talking about in my big write up. you care more about the punk scene or what people are going to say rather than giving the band a chance because they try something new or go mainstream. i'm surprised you like something corporate once their new single space hits mtv i'm sure you'll be all about hating them as well.

[xforgetdecember]

Originally posted by em0
xforgetdecember there is a big difference between blink-182 and the other bands you listed. take a listen to the new album and listen to the originality they put into it. listen to their new lyrics and realize that it's actually really amazing this time around. you are probably going to say 'i heard feeling this and it sucked'. listen to the restof the album.

you also said blink-182 is fucking up the punk scene. stop caring about the fucking 'scene' and care about the music. you are definetly one of the people i was talking about in my big write up. you care more about the punk scene or what people are going to say rather than giving the band a chance because they try something new or go mainstream. i'm surprised you like something corporate once their new single space hits mtv i'm sure you'll be all about hating them as well.

Dude. I don't give a fuck about the "punk" scene. I just know that Blink 182 is a big reason why so-called "punk" is the way it is now. I was trying to stress that. I've never been a huge fan of punk, but I enjoy a lot of stuff that's grouped into the scene. You're putting words in my mouth.

I also like a lot of mainstream stuff. Counting Crows, Ben Folds, Lisa Loeb, and Matchbox Twenty to name just a few..

And Something Corporate's new single has been on Fuse and MTV2. In fact, I VOTED for Something Corporate to get on the MTV rotation. I still love them. I don't hate bands because they're mainstream or trying "something new".

Blink-182 didn't do anything that was new. They tried something new for them, but what they did with this new album wasn't at all original. And I've never liked Blink, I don't own a single album by them, don't intend to, so I really don't care. I did listen to the entire album on MTV's "The Leak" or whatever the hell it is - not just "Feeling This" - and I couldn't stand it. It's just like everything else in the damned pop-punk genre.

..I just don't like Blink, was just stating that, wanting to see if someone on this God damn forum didn't have the band stuck up their fucking ass. =D!

[DriveTBSthru]

I love the new album so much.

[!!*Debs*!!]

yeh the new albums class
i love that song with robert smith too! :ok: :grin:

[thexflamesxburn]

ah yes, the normal blink-182 bashing club.

i think its funny to watch everyone complain about them.

[antihater22]

To me Blink 182 is one of the greatest punk rock bands to ever come along. The first blink album I bought was Enema of The State back in '99, when the album first came out, because I thought they had the coolest sound. I was 11 then and I'm 16 now. So for 5 years I have been rocking to this bad, and honestly I think for the rest of my life there will always be a Blink 182 album sitting in my 5 disc CD player. There isn't a day when I don't listen to these guys, they are just plainly awesome, and I hope they continue with more and even greater stuff as the next 5 years com along.

[BuriedAlive]

blink 182 has only gotten better over the years. with every cd they put out it is just better than before. the new cd is one of the best albums of 2003.

[takingbackrufio]

Originally posted by BuriedAlive
blink 182 has only gotten better over the years. with every cd they put out it is just better than before. the new cd is one of the best albums of 2003. With the exception of Dude Ranch. :)

[ChillinBass420]

Blink rocks... I live in San Diego and there music got me into the local Scene, when there were kick ass back at the old soma, then at warped tour, Mtv, and now I think they moved on past the enma of the state/Mtv Crap.(Dont get me wrong I like this record but its not there best at all) With there new record I hope all the blink bashers at least give them the respect they deserve for being amazing musicans, which I think not many ppl have done through the years.

[AP_Punk]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/vik_delarm/blink_-182_crappy_punk_rock_rabbit.jpg

i miss that rabbit logo.

[.anarkhy]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/vik_delarm/blink_-182_crappy_punk_rock_rabbit.jpg

i miss that rabbit logo.

good times.

[AP_Punk]

:nod:

[cfear]

Didn't they cover the song Good Times?

[vanessavalo]

my friend likes them a lot.

[AreTwoKay]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/vik_delarm/blink_-182_crappy_punk_rock_rabbit.jpg

i miss that rabbit logo.
I still have the stuffed rabbit doll of that

[vanessavalo]

silly rabbit.
trix are for kids.

[AlyssaAsthenia]

I can't believe it's almost been 2 years :bluesad:

[TheOtherAndrew]

I can't believe it's almost been 2 years :bluesad:
Someone just fucking tell Tom he isn't an astronaut already.

[.anarkhy]

Someone just fucking tell Tom he isn't an astronaut already.


i miss old tom, he was so funny, like before a show they were filming him and he was like..

"Who are you? Why are you looking at me? What are you filming!? What do you want from me!?"

[AlyssaAsthenia]

I always try to act like Tom. :blush:

[SickOfStars]

I think I owe a little bit more to Green Day than this band, but I still enjoy them tremendously as they remind me of carefree moments in an awkward time, and it makes me smile.

[RomeoAGoGo]

i miss old tom, he was so funny, like before a show they were filming him and he was like..

"Who are you? Why are you looking at me? What are you filming!? What do you want from me!?"


When I interviewed Matt Rubano from Taking Back Sunday, he said Tom was the craziest prankster he's ever been on tour with.

[TonightInFlames]

Toms changed.

[TonightInFlames]

I always try to act like Tom. :blush:

LOL

[lostfear]

I love blink and all offshoots.

they are the pop punk band.

and I will stand by that. you don't get much better than "everytime I look for you"

[cfear]

I love blink and all offshoots.

they are the pop punk band.

and I will stand by that. you don't get much better than "everytime I look for you"

Wrong. The Lillingtons are THE pop punk band.

[.anarkhy]

Wrong. The Lillingtons are THE pop punk band.


i've never heard of them

blink still remains THE pop punk band.

[RomeoAGoGo]

i've never heard of them

blink still remains THE pop punk band.

nope

[Cheshire_Buddha]

Wrong. The Lillingtons are THE pop punk band.

Death by Television is an amazing album.

[musikfreek121]

blink-182 was amazing. yes, they were THE pop-punk band. they helped change the whole punk scene.

[Cheshire_Buddha]

blink-182 was amazing. yes, they were THE pop-punk band. they helped change the whole punk scene.

As much as I love blink-182....no.

[TheOtherAndrew]

They invented modern pop punk, they have a lot of flaws but their a fun band and are hugely influencial
Incorrect.

[The Revisionist]

and I will stand by that. you don't get much better than "everytime I look for you"Except for any song off of Dude Ranch and most of Enema of the State.

Take Off Your Pants And Jacket is easily my least favorite Blink album, it just seems like there is no progression there at all.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Except for any song off of Dude Ranch and most of Enema of the State.

Take Off Your Pants And Jacket is easily my least favorite Blink album, it just seems like there is no progression there at all.
Give Me One Good Reason completely ruined that album for me.

[.anarkhy]

Except for any song off of Dude Ranch and most of Enema of the State.

Take Off Your Pants And Jacket is easily my least favorite Blink album, it just seems like there is no progression there at all.

how can it be your least favorite?
songs like:
First Date
The Rock Show
Please Take Me Home
Stay Together For The Kids

[TheOtherAndrew]

Explain why?
Because there were many bands before Blink-182 that were playing similar styles of pop-punk.

[Cheshire_Buddha]

Except for any song off of Dude Ranch and most of Enema of the State.

Take Off Your Pants And Jacket is easily my least favorite Blink album, it just seems like there is no progression there at all.

I agree with you yet again. Take Off Your Pants and Jacket wasn't a bad album, but when compared to the likes of Dude Ranch, (Untitled), Cheshire Cat, etc., it's a week album. I only enjoyed about three songs on it, the rest were like fillers.

[TheOtherAndrew]

I think that Green Day, Lagwagon, Nofx etc.. had more to do with the old school sound of the Ramones where as Blink turned pop punk into pop with guitars which is what it basically now is, but thats just my opinion.
I'd disagree. I don't think Blink is where pop punk became pop with guitars. That was probably closer to when bands like Simple Plan started coming around.

[ThReMainsIce]

I would definitely agree. Blink 182 is nothing more than a pop-punk band with no progression or experimentation. There are so many more bands to choose from that are so much more talented like Thrice, Thursday, Coheed, FFAF. Someone said this earlier about alkaline trio and I agree. Their the only exception I have when it comes to pop-punk. Yeah Blink 182 was successful only because of appealing to one small pop-punk scene with repetitive songs. They blow!

[TheOtherAndrew]

I would definitely agree. Blink 182 is nothing more than a pop-punk band with no progression or experimentation.

Yeah Blink 182 was successful only because of appealing to one small pop-punk scene with repetitive songs. They blow!
Also incorrect.

They definitley progressed all over the years. It obviously exponentiated with their final album but you can definitley see their songwriting skills improve from Cheshire Cat to TOYPAJ.

[The Revisionist]

I would definitely agree. Blink 182 is nothing more than a pop-punk band with no progression or experimentation.Cheshire Cat and their last album do sound completely similar.

[TheOtherAndrew]

To be fair most pop punk bands are very simple and not at all progressive, very few ever achieve anything original, its a genre built on plagiarism.
All genres have plenty of plagarism.

[ThReMainsIce]

Also incorrect.

They definitley progressed all over the years. It obviously exponentiated with their final album but you can definitley see their songwriting skills improve from Cheshire Cat to TOYPAJ.
Wow they changed the tone of their guitars and tom's voice got a little better but lyrically they did not change and neither did their song structure

[TheOtherAndrew]

Metal and pop punk are the worst for it.
Country?

[TheOtherAndrew]

I dont much listen to it, save for a few crossover types so i couldnt say.
My friends listen to it so I'm quite familiar. I don't see too much straying from the normal pattern.

Also, crunk rap is pretty monotonous.

[ringstad]

Wow they changed the tone of their guitars and tom's voice got a little better but lyrically they did not change and neither did their song structureHave you even listened to their last album, the selftitled one?

How can you say they didnt change lyrically? The lyrics on that album is more metaphoric and much more complex then many of their old lyrics. They also changed much of their style of playing.

[Cheshire_Buddha]

Wow they changed the tone of their guitars and tom's voice got a little better but lyrically they did not change and neither did their song structure

Listen to their (Untitled) album.

[cfear]

Being one of the most famous pop punk bands doesn't mean a band is the most important pop punk band. Abe Froman, The Lillingtons, The Broadways, Slapstick, Fifteen, Operation: Cliff Clavin, 88 Fingers Louie, The Descendents, Screeching Weasel, Crimpshrine, and a bunch of other 90s punk bands did more to progress the genre. Blink 182, more or less, killed pop punk. If you consider the best "modern" pop punk bands (The Lawrence Arms, The Falcon, Alkaline Trio [sort of], Strike Anywhere, The Soviettes, Go Betty Go, and others I can't think of right now for one reason or another) they all draw heavily from bands most of you have never heard of, or even listened to. Blink 182 furthered Popular Punk, not Pop Punk. I think it is important to differentiate between the two terms. Pop Punk is not Popular Punk. Popular music is the same as Pop music, for all accounts and purposes, but the same is not said when the terms are applied as a genre of punk music. If I think of a great pop punk album I don't really think of Blink 182. If I have my CDs near me I will notice Buddha or Cheshire Cat (Note: Flyswatter was a great album, too), but generally I think of a Fifteen album or a Screeching Weasel album.

[AdamTheGreat]

Being one of the most famous pop punk bands doesn't mean a band is the most important pop punk band. Abe Froman, The Lillingtons, The Broadways, Slapstick, Fifteen, Operation: Cliff Clavin, 88 Fingers Louie, The Descendents, Screeching Weasel, Crimpshrine, and a bunch of other 90s punk bands did more to progress the genre. Blink 182, more or less, killed pop punk. If you consider the best "modern" pop punk bands (The Lawrence Arms, The Falcon, Alkaline Trio [sort of], Strike Anywhere, The Soviettes, Go Betty Go, and others I can't think of right now for one reason or another) they all draw heavily from bands most of you have never heard of, or even listened to. Blink 182 furthered Popular Punk, not Pop Punk. I think it is important to differentiate between the two terms. Pop Punk is not Popular Punk. Popular music is the same as Pop music, for all accounts and purposes, but the same is not said when the terms are applied as a genre of punk music. If I think of a great pop punk album I don't really think of Blink 182. If I have my CDs near me I will notice Buddha or Cheshire Cat (Note: Flyswatter was a great album, too), but generally I think of a Fifteen album or a Screeching Weasel album.

All that typing was useless. How can you say 'pop punk' is not popular punk? That's exactly what it is.

[trindaddy]

Blink 182 furthered Popular Punk, not Pop Punk. I think it is important to differentiate between the two terms. Pop Punk is not Popular Punk. Popular music is the same as Pop music, for all accounts and purposes, but the same is not said when the terms are applied as a genre of punk music. If I think of a great pop punk album I don't really think of Blink 182.


hey could you just break this down a little bit more for me? you know the differences and strict set of rules in the genre you just made up? because if thats the case is underoath, and afi "popular" punk, because those guys are pretty popular now.

i'd be willing to bet a large majority of people would not agree with you. sure blink 182 wasn't the first or last band in POP PUNK, however, they were many people's first. that directly influenced those people to explore into other bands and genres. Maybe they weren't important to you, or influential to you, but they were to literally millions, and maybe you should at least respect that

[trindaddy]

Underoath is pop metal.

A mix of pop hooks and metal

Blink is a mix of pop hooks and punk rock.


i know underoath isn't pop punk. i was making fun of the guy's terrible logic

and lets do math

pop hooks + punk rock= Pop punk? hmmm

[trindaddy]

Thats the equation whats wrong with it?

buddy you dont understand that we're on the same side. i think blink is pop punk like 99 percent of people. im being sarcastic to the one guy who doesn't.

[ringstad]

Their lyrics are still pretty poor though, although vastly improved.Well, true. But some of their lyrics arent bad, tho not quite original.

[Cheshire_Buddha]

Open your eyes, I've got something inside
I'll just jack off in my room until then

I used to love those lyrics when I was 14.

[fenderkid212]

i find it impossible for anyone who likes any pop punk to not like an album like Dude Ranch.

[cfear]

hey could you just break this down a little bit more for me? you know the differences and strict set of rules in the genre you just made up? because if thats the case is underoath, and afi "popular" punk, because those guys are pretty popular now.

i'd be willing to bet a large majority of people would not agree with you. sure blink 182 wasn't the first or last band in POP PUNK, however, they were many people's first. that directly influenced those people to explore into other bands and genres. Maybe they weren't important to you, or influential to you, but they were to literally millions, and maybe you should at least respect that

Popular Punk hinges on the money making aspect of pop punk bands. Most of the most important pop punk bands never made any money and focused on writing fun music and having a good time. Popular Punk tries to bring that attitude to mainstream society to make money. Blink 182 started off as a pop punk band, but by the time Enema of the State came out they were a money making machine. Green Day did the same. Blink 182 stopped being a band circa 1998. MxPx did this too, and are actually one of the prime examples of a pop punk band that has used their status as such to make more money. They jumped back and forth between being a Christian pop punk band and a secular pop punk band. They can capitalize both markets by jumping around. They got their name known in both markets and maximized the ability for them to make money.

Now, I will admit that many times the labels brand a band and the band doesn't do much to that effect, but by allowing themselves to be branded they are behind it as well.

Pop Punk isn't about money, it is about money. The only reason Blink 182 got to me so "important" is because they were branded as cool. They made stupid jokes and stupid music. I will admit I love Blink 182. I have every fucking album, but when you talk about a bands effect on a genre you have to think about it in terms of that genre. Not mainstream society. I am, pretty much, a huge elitist. Most people haven't spent most of their life listening to pop punk. It's a fad to most people, and the bands they listen to are popular punk. They are "important" in the short term, but in tht longterm most of those bands aren't that important.

Most people will change musical preferences as they age and as newer, more popular bands emerge. It's all a fad to most people.

Blink 182 is like the yo-yo. They were great for a little while, but in the long run there are more important bands.

[dboard789]

Blink owns. Enough said.

[trindaddy]

Pop Punk isn't about money, it is about money.

Blink 182 is like the yo-yo. They were great for a little while, but in the long run there are more important bands.


what?

who's to say what's more important. i thought importance is an opinionated subject. things that are important to some and not to others. you just can't rule out their importance because you dont find them to be so. just because they decided to have a job that makes them money, does not make them less important.

you make up genres and label things incorrectly as facts when really, they are your own feeble minded opinions.

sure the bands you named helped define a genre. that doesnt mean that blink 182 is a band who has brought no importance to their genre.

[fenderkid212]

.Blink 182 stopped being a band circa 1998.


The only reason Blink 182 got to me so "important" is because they were branded as cool. They made stupid jokes and stupid music.

Most people haven't spent most of their life listening to pop punk. It's a fad to most people, and the bands they listen to are popular punk. They are "important" in the short term, but in tht longterm most of those bands aren't that important.

Most people will change musical preferences as they age and as newer, more popular bands emerge. It's all a fad to most people.

Blink 182 is like the yo-yo. They were great for a little while, but in the long run there are more important bands.


No one is saying that Blink is the most important band, but they were very influential to kids who are now in their teens and early twenties, because blink's music got them into a new type of music.

I disagree with u saying that they "stopped being a band in 1998". does this mean that any band that signs to a major label and becomes popular can no longer make good music? Take off your pants and jacket is my second favorite behind Dude Ranch.

And pop punk was a fad, but so is Screamo, emo, and basically everything that is popular now. Pretty soon something new will come along. That doesnt mean that music that was a "fad" cannot be considered good. Look at mostly any genre of music....very few of them have remained exatly the same since their creation.

[fenderkid212]

Pop punk is still incredibly popular

Fall Out Boy, Underoath, Panic!, Hawthorne Heights, Aiden, Saosin are massive bands.

We were kind of talking about Pop punk in a mid to late 90's sense. That type is def over with, you dont see songs like "dammit" anymore. songs that start out with a catchy intro and are very simplistic musically.

[TBSfan]

Yeah thats why we need to revive the mid 90's punk. I'm sick of this soft punk crap you hear on mtv. there are songs back then that are way better then whats playing on the radio today. Like Superman - GOLDFINGER, Dammit- BLINK182, Science of Selling Yourself Short- LESS THAN JAKE, Waiting Room- FUGAZI, Anything, Anything (I'll Give You)- DRAMARAMA, Ameoba-ADOLESCENCE, Black and Blue- RANCID and so on. I want stuff that will keep your blood pumping.

[ThReMainsIce]

Pop punk is still incredibly popular

Fall Out Boy, Underoath, Panic!, Hawthorne Heights, Aiden, Saosin are massive bands.
First of all underoath is not pop punk they are screamo. Second, saosin is not pop punk either. Go listen to them before you start squealing

[.anarkhy]

First of all underoath is not pop punk they are screamo. Second, saosin is not pop punk either. Go listen to them before you start squealing

*post-hardcore

[.anarkhy]

Pop punk is still incredibly popular

Fall Out Boy, Underoath, Panic!, Hawthorne Heights, Aiden, Saosin are massive bands.

fall out boy = pop-rock
underoath = post-hardcore
panic! = shitty ass pop-rock
aiden= just shit all around
saosin = not pop-punk
hawthorne heights = not pop-punk

[.anarkhy]

Hathorne Heights are pop punk
There only chasing safety is pop punk with screaming
saosin is pop punk but has a little metal influence

no.

[ThReMainsIce]

Blink owns. Enough said.
Owns what? You are a dashboard and obviously a blink fan. Both bands create simple music. So explain what Blink 182 owns

[ThReMainsIce]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screamo_groups

Learn your genres, Underoath is not in the least bit screamo.
They definitely aren't pop-punk

[.anarkhy]

sorry but your wrong.

wikipedia, which you seem to be getting your facts from says

Saosin = Genre(s) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_genre) Alternative rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_rock)
Post-hardcore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-hardcore)

Hawthorne Heights =
Emo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_Heights#_note-rollingstone)
Post-hardcore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-hardcore)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_Heights#_note-0)
Screamo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screamo)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_Heights#_note-rollingstone)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_Heights#_note-1)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_Heights#_note-2)
Pop Punk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_Punk)
(how can a band be post-hardcore/screamo and pop-punk at the same time? and hawthorne heights emo? not even close.)

Underoath =
Post-hardcore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-hardcore)
...pop-punk?

[ThReMainsIce]

wikipedia, which you seem to be getting your facts from says

Saosin = Genre(s) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_genre) Alternative rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_rock)
Post-hardcore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-hardcore)

Hawthorne Heights =
Emo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_Heights#_note-rollingstone)
Post-hardcore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-hardcore)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_Heights#_note-0)
Screamo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screamo)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_Heights#_note-rollingstone)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_Heights#_note-1)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_Heights#_note-2)
Pop Punk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_Punk)
(how can a band be post-hardcore/screamo and pop-punk at the same time?)

Underoath =
Post-hardcore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-hardcore)
...pop-punk?


Anarkhy is right. Underoath is post-hardcore. In both screamo and post-hardcore there is a lot of screaming though. Lunchforsky.....you are so incredibly wrong

[Cheshire_Buddha]

Owns what? You are a dashboard and obviously a blink fan. Both bands create simple music. So explain what Blink 182 owns

From First to Last, for one.

Let's not forget Avenged Sevenfold either.

[AP_Punk]

yup, i like and miss them, too.

[Save_Liam]

I would have to say the Blink 182 is probably one of my favourite bands of all time. And i know that most people don't even admit to that. But personally i disliked there Self titled album but there were a few good songs on it.

My favourtie albums by them would probably have to be Cheshire Cat and Enema Of The State.
i'm not too sure why i like them all that much, i guess i just find them fun to listen to, and it could also be the good times that have come from them =)

[AP_Punk]

i wanted to make that rabbit logo my avatar but for some reason (i think) AP.net isn't loading it.

:shrug:

maybe i'm not doing it right?

[Save_Liam]

i wanted to make that rabbit logo my avatar but for some reason (i think) AP.net isn't loading it.

:shrug:

maybe i'm not doing it right?

AP isn't letting me upload my own Ava either =/
or a photo

[SanePsychotic]

Blink's my guilty pleasure music. Every now and then I'll bust them out, but for now they're buried under all my other CDs. They're not bad. Simple can be good and some of the lyrics are alright. But they're not the best band on the face of the universe. They're just "not bad".

[cfear]

Pop punk is still incredibly popular

Fall Out Boy, Underoath, Panic!, Hawthorne Heights, Aiden, Saosin are massive bands.

Nothing you ever say will be taken seriously again.

[AP_Punk]

Nothing you ever say will be taken seriously again.

hahaha

[trindaddy]

Pop punk is still incredibly popular

Fall Out Boy, Underoath, Panic!, Hawthorne Heights, Aiden, Saosin are massive bands.




i was being sarcastic, and said underoath was pop punk during that little debate there... and you said they are not
then you say this?

and aiden? didn't they only sell like 7,000 of their ep? and they're god awesul and wouldn't call them pop punk

funny aiden story. only time i saw them (unfortunately) their singer was swinging mic like a douche as if he were in tbs or somethin, and busted their guitarist straight in the face with it. hilarious

[nfggc10]

Blink's my guilty pleasure music. Every now and then I'll bust them out, but for now they're buried under all my other CDs. They're not bad. Simple can be good and some of the lyrics are alright. But they're not the best band on the face of the universe. They're just "not bad".How can you call Blink guilty pleasure music? You also have them on your favorite bands list and yet you only classify them as "not bad"....

[trindaddy]

How can you call Blink guilty pleasure music? You also have them on your favorite bands list and yet you only classify them as "not bad"....


burn

[fenderkid212]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screamo_groups

Learn your genres, Underoath is not in the least bit screamo.

Like anyone gives a shit about what Wikipedia has to say on the subject.

[nfggc10]

Like anyone gives a shit about what Wikipedia has to say on the subject.
Especially since I could go on there right now and say Iron & Wine is a screamo band....

[fenderkid212]

Especially since I could go on there right now and say Iron & Wine is a screamo band....

exactly.

[nfggc10]

You wanna know nothing about music, sure go for it.since when has wikipedia been the site of truth on musical knowledge and genre classifications?

Saosin and Underoath probably are post hardcore bands although i'd prefer popcore as it takes into account their pop sensibilities, but they are not screamo bands. Screamo is fast, chaotic and rooted in straight up hardcore which Underoath are not. With regards to Hawthorne Heights they are a pop punk band withuot a doubt. There obviously not emo or screamo that shouldn't need explaining and post hardcore would recquire them to take influence from hardcore which i really dont see in the slightest. Where as they do write very simple, catchy and mainstream songs whilst slightly playing up to the current screaming trend so they are still pop punk.did you really just waste all that time making a case for what genre hawthorne heights falls under?

[iHATEapril]

Man, people love to come in every topic and call stuff screamo when it's not. No matter what the goddamn topic is about.

[nfggc10]

Man, people love to come in every topic and call stuff screamo when it's not. No matter what the goddamn topic is about.or have arguments about genres in general....

[iHATEapril]

or have arguments about genres in general....

I don't blame them for arguing, how often can you hear people call Senses Fail screamo without getting pissed?

[nfggc10]

I don't blame them for arguing, how often can you hear people call Senses Fail screamo without getting pissed?eh, there's always going to be ignorant people when it comes to stuff like that so i just accept it and move on.

[iHATEapril]

eh, there's always going to be ignorant people when it comes to stuff like that so i just accept it and move on.

I think it's better to make people aware, becuase then they sometimes learn and like stuff they may have never gotten into.

[nfggc10]

I think it's better to make people aware, becuase then they sometimes learn and like stuff they may have never gotten into.True in outside discussions. But the people on here making such outrageous claims, they have no interest in becoming more knowledgeable on this type of stuff.

[iHATEapril]

True in outside discussions. But the people on here making such outrageous claims, they have no interest in becoming more knowledgeable on this type of stuff.

I could see that as a feasible arguement as well.

[.anarkhy]

lunchforthesky

hawthorne heights = not screamo
stuff like circle takes the square = screamo

[AP_Punk]

Today I lost on a bid for blink's Flyswatter demo tape.

Bummer.

[Matthew Tsai]

you're one of the few who do think blink 182 is nothing special. i'm with you though.

[AP_Punk]

Should this be the "official" blink thread? :shrug: