You're Dream Set List for Brand New, Thrice, & Say Anything

[inCinerate.1028]

.......since this is Absolutepunk.net, I know you guys have though of the most amazing sets you wish you could see by these bands. Please post them.

Oh, and to make it a little harder...keep each list at 14 songs maximum.

[inCinerate.1028]

Mine:

BRAND NEW
1. Seventy Times 7
2. Sic Transit Gloria...Glory Fades
3. Sowing Season (Yeah)
4. The Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows
5. Degausser
6. Okay I Believe You, But My Tommy Gun Don't
7. Millstone
8. Not the Sun
9. Jesus Christ
10. Jaws Theme Swimming
11. Luca
12. The Archers Bows Have Broken
13. You Won't Know
14. (Fork and Knife)

THRICE
1. Firebreather
2. The Messenger
3. Red Sky
4. The Artist and the Ambulance
5. All That's Left
6. Digital Sea
7. Burn the Fleet
8. Image of the Invisible
9. Open Water
10. Hold Fast Hope
11. The Whaler
12. Come All You Weary
13. The Arsonist
14. Night Diving

SAY ANYTHING
1. Alive With the Glory of Love
2. Shiksa (Girlfriend)
3. Every Man Has A Molly
4. Skinny Mean Man
5. No Soul
6. Wow, I Can Get Sexual Too
7. Baby Girl, I'm A Blur
8. People Like You Are Why People Like Me Exist
9. Retarded in Love
10. Admit It!!!
11. About Falling
12. Woe
13. Sorry Dudes, My Bad.
14. Plea

[bowl of oranges]

BRAND NEW
1. Welcome To Bangkok
2. Not The Sun
3. Sic Transit Gloria...Glory Fades
4. Jaws Theme Swimming
5. Guernica
6. Jude Law...
7. Me vs. Maradona vs. Elvis
8. Untitled
9. The Archers Bows Have Broken
10. Jesus
11. The Boy Who Blocked His Own Shot
12. Luca
13. You Won't Know
14. Play Crack The Sky


THRICE
1. Cold Cash and Colder Hearts
2. All That's Left
3. Hoods on Peregrine
4. Image of the Invisible
5. The Whaler
6. Digital Sea
7. Trust
8. Phoenix Ignition
9. Burn The Fleet
10. Hold Fast Hope
11. Music Box
12. Between The End and Where We Lie
13. The Earth Will Shake
14. Red Sky


SAY ANYTHING
1. Every Man Has A Molly
2. Baby Girl, I'm A Blur
3. An Orgy Of Critics
4. The Writhing South
5. Yellow Cat (Slash) Red Cat
6. About Falling
7. The Futile
8. Slowly, Through A Vector
9. Chia-Like, I Shall Grow
10. Alive With The Glory Of Love
11. Spidersong
12. I Want To Know Your Plans
13. An Insult To The Dead
14. Woe

[Dr. Acula]

Im bored so I'll comply.

Brand New

1. Welcome to Bangkok
2. Millstone
3. Sic Transit Gloria...Glory Fades
4. Sowing Season
5. Luca
6. Jaws Theme Swimming
7. Play Crack The Sky
8. Limousine
9. Degausser
10. Jesus
11. Oh Comely (Neutral Milk Hotel cover)
12. Okay, I Believe You, But My Tommy Gun Dont
13. Good To Know If I Need Attention All I Have To Do Is Die
14. You Wont Know

Thrice

1. Firebreather
2. A Living Dance Upon Dead Minds
3. So Strange I Remember You (reworked version)
4. Open Water
5. The Abolition of Man
6. Atlantic
7. Between The End and Where We Lie
8. Digital Sea
9. The Messenger
10. For Miles
11. Identity Crisis
12. The Earth Will Shake
13. Hoods on Peregrine
14. Red Sky

Say Anything

1. Every Man Has a Molly
2. The Church Channel
3. Skinny, Mean Man
4. Red Cat/Yellow Cat
5. Baby Girl, Im a Blur
6. You're The Wanker, If Anyone Is
7. Colorblind
8. I Want To Know Your Plans
9. About Falling
10. Metal Now
11. Spores
12. Have at Thee!
13. The Writhing South
14. Belt

[bowl of oranges]

Not the Luca



haha

[Yes. And?]

None of the above.

[duhpunk]

None of the above.

don't be such a party pooper. put your dream MCR setlist or whatever it is you do

[duhpunk]

Brand New:
Tautou
Shower Scene
Jude Law
Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows
Archers
Moshi Moshi
Boy Who Blocked His Own Shot (extended edition from 06' summer tour)
Sic Transit Gloria
Magazines
Mixtape
Okay I Believe You...
Guernica
----
Soco Amaretto Lime
Seventy Times Seven


Thrice:
All That's Left
Under A Killing Moon
Image of the Invisible
Kill Me Quickly
Silhouette
The Earth Will Shake
For Miles
Artist in the Ambulance
Red Sky
Deadbolt

Say Anything
all of "Is A Real Boy", minus Slowly Through a Vector and Admit It
Wow, I Can Get Sexual Too
Little Girls

[canadian!]

Thrice
1. Kill Me Quickly.
2. Under A Killing Moon.
3. The Image Of The Invisible.
3. Come All You Weary.
4. Like Moths To Flame.
5. Of Dust and Nations
6. The Whaler
7. (Song from the 5th Alchemy Index Video. From the Earth Disc.)
8. (Song from the 6th Alchemy Index Video. From the Air Disc.)
9. The Artist In The Ambulance.
10. Silhouette.
11. Stand And Feel Your Worth.
12. Red Sky.
13. The Earth Will Shake.

Brand New
1. Limousine (MS rebridge).
2. Not The Sun.
3. The Archers Bows Have Broken.
4. Untitled 09.
5. Me vs Maradona vs Elvis.
6. Okay I Belive You, But My Tommy Gun Don't...
7. Luca.
8. I Will Play My Game Beneath The Spin Light.
9. Millstone.
10. You Won't Know.
11. Welcome To Bangkok.


Edit: The Air song from Thrice is called Broken Lungs.

2nd Edit: The Earth song from Thrice is called Moving Mountains.

[IWasaCamera]

Upwards Over the Mountain
Never heard this cover. Any good?

[Until The Bombs]

It seems like every other thread concerns these three bands.

[IWasaCamera]

You've only just realized this?

[reissgoespunk]

Never heard this cover. Any good?

Very.

[reissgoespunk]

Not a patch on the original though. Jesse Lacey wishes his lyrics were as good as Beam's.

Of course, good effort though.

[speed]

Best part of a show with ANY of these bands is the part where the last note from the stage rings out as they say goodnite and walk off stage while the house lights come back on.

[IWasaCamera]

Most of his covers are pretty solid.
Lacey's voice doesn't seem like it would suit the song but I'll look around and see if it's any good.

[theguy77]

Not a patch on the original though. Jesse Lacey wishes his lyrics were as good as Beam's.

dont we all? lyricists, that is.

ive gone back and looked at the lyrics that are going to be on northbrook's album and they're actually disappointing to me, they're not terrible but they're definitely not anything special, just adam lazzara style pop-punk lyrics. and they have a few really bad cliches. i definitely need to change the way i write lyrics.

[x togepi x]

max's lyrics suck.

here's my set list

Thrice: plays old stuff.

Brand New: plays old stuff

Say Anything: Max shows up on stage, announces they are breaking up and he's leaving music to move to India and take a vow of silence as a Buddhist monk.

[dustyfloors]

Brand New:

Sic Transit Gloria...Glory Fades
Jude Law and a Semester Abroad
Moshi Moshi
The Boy Who Blocked His Own Shot
The Archers Bows Have Broken
Good To Know If I Ever Need Attention...
Logan to Government Center
Soco Ameretto Lime
Jesus
Limousine
Seventy x 7
You Won't Know
My Nine Rides Shotgun
Okay I Believe You but My Tommy Gun Don't

[reissgoespunk]

max's lyrics suck.

Wrong.

[theguy77]

Good call, no offence or anything. Just cause it's pop punk doesn't mean the lyrics need to blow, set a new trend for lyrical quality in pop punk. Look at Iron & Wine, Neutral Milk Hotel etc.. and try and be that good. Lyrics are just as important as the music to me and way too many bands phone it in or don't try. They should be something you spend a long time perfecting for every song you write. I can't imagine Sam Beam can just reel that stuff off, it really shows that he puts effort into it.

yeah, william doyle and i have a long music history together and especially back when we both listened to only pop-punk he used to learn from my lyrical fluency, but we have since matured our tastes and his lyrics are more meaningful, more varied, more original, and more eloquent than mine, and hes well on his way to becoming a sam beam or at least a kevin devine while ive only improved that fluency and smoothness. his advice to me was to stop sitting down for a few hours staring at a word document trying to write something to fit a melody, which is the root of my problem. it causes me to take cliches and try to twist them my own way instead of randomly thinking of something unique. it causes me to focus on one repetitive theme instead of using several themes and metaphors and comparisons to construct a well-formulated overall message. it causes me to write about very unimportant and usually hypothetical topics, really its actually variations of the relationship topic which has been beaten to death these days and im sick of it. when you look at it its a very pretentious, forced way of writing.

will said what i should do and what he does is to get a notebook and just write randomly about whatever issues im thinking about, whether they're in my personal life or large scale issues that i have strong opinions about. the more you write about a particular subject, the more deeply my opinion can be formulated and expressed, and the more eloquent the writing becomes. then, when you go back and look through the notebook, you'll realize several of the lines can be changed in structure to fit the song and with some tweaking you really just pull wise lyrics out of writings on a subject you've spent several weeks on. so im planning to attempt that strategy on future releases for sure.

as you said i dont feel like any genre should oestrecize you from writing well either. really i dont limit northbrook to pop-punk, it just happened to be the music i was feeling and arbitrarily writing last year. hell the next album could likely be a folk rock or indie album, and if i felt it i'd write electronica or post-hardcore, it really makes no difference to me as long as i love what im making and am sincere about it.

[theguy77]

disclaimer for the above though: im not totally against writing about relationships, if its something that's going on in your life then if you're a musician by god you SHOULD write about it since it is a pure true emotion and sincere writing, you just have to try to do it in an eloquent, non-cliche way. however i think writing hypothetically about relationships should stop.

[nivek87]

1. Tautou
2. Luca
3. Okay I Believe You
4. Millstone
5. Degausser
6. You Won't Know
7. Good To Know
8. Me vs. Maradona
9. Untitled
10. Untitled 01
11. Brothers
12. Limo
--
13. Play Crack the Sky
14. Welcome to Bangkok




1. For Miles
2. Open Water
3. Atlantic
4. Red Sky
5. Of Dust and Nation
6. Firebreather
7. The Messenger
8. Cold Cash and Colder Hearts
9. The Artist and the Ambulance
10. Stare at the Sun
11. Digital Sea
12. Come All You Weary
--
13. Image of the Invisible
14. The Earth Will Shake

[x togepi x]

Wrong.

no, i'm quite right. he's one of the most overrated lyricists today.

[IWasaCamera]

I could never write good lyrics.

[theguy77]

That's an intetresting way to go about it.

With indie bands and "literate" (awful term I know) bands like The Decemberists, Neutral Milk Hotel, Iron and Wine etc.. that have notoriously complex and smart lyrics from what I've seen they write the lyrics first because what matters most is the lyrics. Iron and Wine have slightly strayed from that with the new album being more interesting musically but essentially with all those bands it's the lyrics and vocals which matter so they come first, the music accompanies it. I'm not sure how well that would work for pop punk but the avantage of it is that it gives you complete lyrical freedom to write anything you feel in any way and if you're music writing skills are up to the task then you can find away to accompany those lyrics later.

I don't play in bands anymore cause I just got really sick and apathetic towards the whole thing but if I were to start again I'd definitely do it this way.

yeah it might be a sweet idea its just hard to when your music is based on something more intricate than acoustic music.

any particular reason you stopped caring about playing in a band?

[x togepi x]

will said what i should do and what he does is to get a notebook and just write randomly about whatever issues im thinking about, whether they're in my personal life or large scale issues that i have strong opinions about. the more you write about a particular subject, the more deeply my opinion can be formulated and expressed, and the more eloquent the writing becomes. then, when you go back and look through the notebook, you'll realize several of the lines can be changed in structure to fit the song and with some tweaking you really just pull wise lyrics out of writings on a subject you've spent several weeks on. so im planning to attempt that strategy on future releases for sure.


i don't really think this works that well. i mean, it works insanely well when you're really really really pissed off about something, but i find that level of emotion is quite rare and often you end up writing down the same kind of cliches as you did before. i always found that just having a note book and writing down random lines as they come across is much better. even if they're not your random lines. i mean my notebook is full of quotes from people like debord, but writing down other stuff that you like often causes you to come up with small lines of your own. then when you sit down to write a song you just string lines together. you'll often find it works and all you have to do is write a little bit of "filler" (filler being connections between lines, it doesn't mean they have to suck).

i always thought that the creation process was rather organic, and sitting down to do anything like writing about things you're going through was too mechanical.

[handlikesecret]

Brand New:
Tautou
Shower Scene
Jude Law
Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows
Archers
Moshi Moshi
Boy Who Blocked His Own Shot (extended edition from 06' summer tour)
Sic Transit Gloria
Magazines
Mixtape
Okay I Believe You...
Guernica
----
Soco Amaretto Lime
Seventy Times Seven


Thrice:
All That's Left
Under A Killing Moon
Image of the Invisible
Kill Me Quickly
Silhouette
The Earth Will Shake
For Miles
Artist in the Ambulance
Red Sky
Deadbolt

Say Anything
all of "Is A Real Boy", minus Slowly Through a Vector and Admit It
Wow, I Can Get Sexual Too
Little Girls
not a fan of IDOTG?

[theguy77]

i don't really think this works that well. i mean, it works insanely well when you're really really really pissed off about something, but i find that level of emotion is quite rare and often you end up writing down the same kind of cliches as you did before. i always found that just having a note book and writing down random lines as they come across is much better. even if they're not your random lines. i mean my notebook is full of quotes from people like debord, but writing down other stuff that you like often causes you to come up with small lines of your own. then when you sit down to write a song you just string lines together. you'll often find it works and all you have to do is write a little bit of "filler" (filler being connections between lines, it doesn't mean they have to suck).

i always thought that the creation process was rather organic, and sitting down to do anything like writing about things you're going through was too mechanical.

oh but see thats the thing these writings are never forced, its just like whenever you're thinking of something randomly then instead of keeping the thoughts in your head write them down. its still arbitrary and sincere and not as mechanical as it sounds. and its not like you sit and write about the same thing every time, you just tend to write about similar subjects that are more important to you. you could write for 5 weeks or so and pull 3 songs about entirely different things from it. i dunno i mean it's worked well for will up to this point, im especially impressed with his lyrics on "revolutions & rotations".

[x togepi x]

i think at any point when you "sit down to write", it's going to be mechanical. the sitting down part is more like compiling than writing. i mean you say sitting down can be sincere, which yeah, i agree, but that doesn't mean it's not going to end up cliche. cliches are cliches because they're sincere too much of the time.

[theguy77]

yeah well in any case im open to experiment. anything to separate me from these pop-punk lyrics.

granted they still will be on the release, ive written all but 2 songs already and its verrrrry difficult to rewrite once you've already got melodies coordinated.

[x togepi x]

dude, if i could find 3 other dudes that want to play shoegazey post-hardcore in fucking missouri, i'm sure eventually you could find someone to do something decent over there.

[theguy77]

1. People are too unreliable
2. People like/listen to shitty music and want to rip off said shitty music.
3. I can't sing and could never find anyone else who could to a level I thought acceptable.
4. Most people just wanna rip out any kind of shit in an hour and then play shows with shitty bands. Rather than actually put a lot of time into what you write.
5. Finding five or more band members who are competant instrumentally and want to contribute and put time and effort into music is quite difficult.
6. I honestly know pretty much no one who doesn't want to either play generic metalcore, pop punk or something to do with the Libertines (whom I detest).

and probably other reasons but I have probably been in like 10 bands plus which lasted to differing degrees and none turned out remotely how I wanted or produced any worthwhile music.

all problems i have faced. since im the songwriter and its my music i pretty much get to choose who to add to the band so its not like im incapable of writing without other members but it is the reason why northbrook is still just me and a drummer. things are looking up though ive found two prospects that i just need to work out. the biggest problems to me were:

1. the overall insincerity about the music, as you described, involving people who just want to throw whatever sounds mainstream together and get famous
2. the fact that most people are not actually as talented as they say they are haha. so many people have problems playing anything in a rhythm separate from a standard constant strumming non-syncopated 1-2-3-4 beat, and especailly singers, so many of them have weird voices and maybe some sense of note perception but no ability to pinpoint those notes when singing a run. (im looking for a dual vocalist)

[Yes. And?]

thrice and say anything arent in the same league as brand new
rly?

[x togepi x]

They'd end up sucking for other reasons even if they wanted to play indie stuff.

They'd suck on their instruments, be in it for the girls not the music, never practice, write shitty music and not be able to take criticism or a whole combinations of other reasons why it wouldn't work out.

well i mean, this is going to happen regardless. i guess it just depends on how much you really want to play.

[bowl of oranges]

thrice and say anything arent in the same league as brand new
wrong.

[hailthewarrior]

Brand New

1. Limousine
2. The Archers Bows Have Broken
3. Not The Sun
4. No Seatbelt Song
5. Jude Law and a Semester Abroad
6. Luca
7. Millstone
8. Jesus
9. Guernica
10. Okay, I Believe You But My Tommy Gun Don't
11. The Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows
12. Sowing Season (Yeah)
--
13. Jaws Theme Swimming
14. Seventy Times Seven

Thrice

1. Cold Cash and Colder Hearts
2. The Melting Point of Wax
3. For Miles
4. Digital Sea
5. The Messenger
6. Between The End and Where We Lie
7. Under a Killing Moon
8. Image of the Invisible
9. Open Water
10. The Artist In The Ambulance
11. Deadbolt
12. The Earth Will Shake
--
13. Silhouette
14. To Awake and Avenge The Dead

Say Anything
1. Skinny, Mean Man
2. The Writhing South
3. Yellow Cat (Slash) Red Cat
4. Alive With The Glory of Love
5. The Church Channel
6. Belt
7. Shiksa (Girlfriend)
8. Woe
9. Goodbye Young Tutor, You've Now Outgrown Me
10. Plea
11. That Is Why
12. Every Man Has a Molly
--
13. The Futile
14. Wow, I Can Get Sexual Too

Brand New and Thrice were harder than Say Anything, I just chose two songs at random for them to round it up to 14. But I've seen Brand New play a 20 song set, and Thrice as main support play 14, so a dream set for them would be actualized and longer... but yeah.

[Veritas11]

Brand New
Welcome to Bangkok
Sic Transit Gloria
Seventy Times Seven
Sowing Season
Millstone
Logan to Government Center
Jaws Theme Swimming
The Quiet Things No One Ever Knows
Jesus Christ
Me vs. Maradona vs. Elvis
The Archers Bows Have Broken
Guernica
You Won't Know
Okay I Believe You But My Tommy Gun Don't

Thrice
Firebreather
Stare at the Sun
The Arsonist
Digital Sea
Of Dust and Nations
Silhouette
In Years To Come
The Artist In The Ambulance
Flags of Dawn
Hold Fast Hope
Night Diving
The Messenger
Red Sky
The Earth Will Shake

[fly_guy]

rly?

thrice is

but I really dong care for say anything

as someone previously said
"2 discs of filler"

and I agree

[Yes. And?]

Eh, I was just messin' with you.

[duhpunk]

not a fan of IDOTG?

nope. ive been very vocal about not liking most of the last year's big releases, or Brand New's DAGARIM. they bored me.

[speed]

I could never write good lyrics.

I know.

[IWasaCamera]

hahaha

[bowl of oranges]

hahaha, as much of a brand new fan that i am, that's funny

[theguy77]

haha aw come on now, jesse's old shit was the best of pop-punk and his new shit is even better and a lot wiser.

[handlikesecret]

nope. ive been very vocal about not liking most of the last year's big releases, or Brand New's DAGARIM. they bored me.
gotcha.

[Jumpoff]

Brand New
-------------

1. Sig Transit Gloria
2. Sowing Season
3. Untitled 05
4. Untitled 03
5. Jaws Theme Swimming
6. Luca
7. Quiet Things that Noone Ever Knows
8. Degausser
9. Millstone
10. Limousine
11. Play Crack the Sky


Say Anything
----------------
1. Metal Now
2. Alive in the Glory of Love
3. Futile
4. Surgically Removing the Tracking Device
5. Belt
6. Church Channel
7. Woe
8. Spidersong
9. Every Man Has a Molly
10. It's a Metaphor Fool
11. Spay Me



I don't like Thrice too much, so don't care about naming a set list for them.

[SubrosaSeductiv]

Brand New

The Shower Scene
Sic Transit Gloria (Glory Fades)
Failure by Design
Logan to Government Center
Okay, I believe you, but my Tommy Gun doesn't
Jesus Christ
The Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows
Play Crack the Sky
The Boy Who Blocked his own show
Seventy Times Seven
Soco Ameretto Lime

FUCK MY LIFE! As I was writing this I was looking for my YFW cd and it's fucking gone.

EDIT:

Nevermind found it, and I definitely forgot Jude Law and a Semester Abroad and Magazines.

[stupidtyonparad]

Thrice

artist in the ambulance
and then "digital sea" about 10 times in a row cause tahts the only other song i like and i love it


Brand New
-welcome to bangkok
-sowing season
-millstone
-jesus
-jaws theme swimming (with the intro)
-the boy who blocked his own shot
-logan to government center
-archers bows are broken
-okay i believe you but my tommy gun dont
-sic transit gloria... glory fades
-me vs maradona vs elvis
-no seatbelt song
-luca
-degausser
-you wont know
-play crack the sky (or soco amarretto lime on a different day)

encore
-jude law (slow jesse electric solo)
-limousine (with the live outro)
-untitled (the way it was on the last tour)

id like to squeeze tautou in there somewhere but i dont know where it would fit
and i thought about putting seventy times 7 in but........im not 14 years old

[speed]

hahaha, as much of a brand new fan that i am, that's funny


See i was hoping there was at least ONE brand new fan out there with a sense of humour.

Nice.