Fantasy Baseball '08

[Scott Weber]

Woo!!! Just took over 1st place in the Keeper league. What a fucking comeback. From 11th last year to like 9th the entire first 6 weeks, all the way up. Awesome.

[xbrokendownx]

yea, yea...i cant hold down first every day

i have rasner going tonight so it may be a short lived stay

[Broken Parachute]

My keeper league pitching is incredible, but my hitting is so atrociously bad.

[teddy]

Joined.

[looksthatkillbn]

having pujols and soriano get hurt within a day of each other blows ass.

[Killadelphia]

I love my 5 players currently on the DL in the keeper league.

[Chris M.]

My OF depth in my 12-team league is insane. Bruce, Ludwick, Pence, Bradley and Swisher all on the same team.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

I got killed by injuries with Smoltz and Keppinger and Hairston and Chipper all being out at once. It's okay though, I just keep movin on...

[Scott Weber]

My OF depth in my 12-team league is insane. Bruce, Ludwick, Pence, Bradley and Swisher all on the same team.
i have crazy depth in my main points league at OF: Pence, Holliday, Bradley, Bruce, Abreu.

[Broken Parachute]

My AP League #1 OF: Lance Berkman , Torii Hunter, Nate McLouth, Ryan Ludwick, Bobby Abreu, Joey Votto

Ya digggggggggg. :-D

[xbrokendownx]

haha i wish i had ONE of those dudes in league 1...i have a struggling Vlad, Damon, Nady, Ibanez and DeRosa

in my league w my friends, i have Holliday, Matsui, Quentin, McClouth, Bruce, Church, and Votto

[StandMyBrothers]

if anyone else wants to join up for the NL only league, you're welcome too. 4 more spots left...

[xbrokendownx]

as long as we have an even # of people

[Scott Weber]

as long as we have an even # of people
it's a roto league, it doesn't matter.

[crit]

I'm in.

[StandMyBrothers]

Do you guys want Points or Roto? Didn't even realize it was roto haha...

[Scott Weber]

I like points a lot better personally. I hate head to head categories. you have to manually enter in points values though. I ended up kinda liking how the AL only one was. totally weird and new, but you adapt and create a new strategy.

[StandMyBrothers]

I was leaning on switching to points too...I'm going to change it.

[Scott Weber]

cool. i dig that. might be a little late to the draft, but we'll see.

[StandMyBrothers]

load up on starting pitching...! ;-)

[Scott Weber]

depends on the point values. i don't do that in my other points leagues.

[Chris M.]

I might not stay for the whole draft. Depends on how tired I feel. Plus I've got an exam tomorrow morning.

[xbrokendownx]

ill be there

[Chris M.]

Interesting setup, by the way. The only category I don't really like is that for pitchers you get a point for getting an out.

[Scott Weber]

I've decided that this is the last year I'm doing any head to head weekly sort of leagues in fantasy baseball. There's too much luck involved and it doesn't have the type of strategy that I enjoy for planning for the long-haul.

[Scott Weber]

Pitchers get points for innings pitched in all points leagues, so I don't see how this is much different.

[StandMyBrothers]

R (1), H (1), 1B (1), 2B (2), 3B (3), HR (4.5), RBI (1), SF (1), SB (2.5), CS (-1), BB (1), HBP (1), K (-1), GS (3), W (12), L (-5), CG (10), SHO (5), SV (3), OUT (1), H (-1), ER (-1), HR (-1), BB (-1), HBP (-1), K (0), GIDP (1), HLD (1)

open to changes, these are the settings I have in my Uncle's League.

[Chris M.]

Pitchers get points for innings pitched in all points leagues, so I don't see how this is much different.

ehhhh, I guess. Essentially we're playing with 3 points for 1 IP, seems a bit much to me, but I can deal.

[Scott Weber]

I don't like pitchers losing points for a loss. I'd take away points for a loss and maybe make wins more like 10 points.

[Broken Parachute]

What time is the draft? I'll be there.

[xbrokendownx]

10 30

[Scott Weber]

i'm back...i'll be there.

[crit]

First pick!

Crit
Teddy
Redhawks
we are cured
Blackholesun
Chris
xbrokendownx
Weebs
Broken Parachute

[Broken Parachute]

Yeah, great. Last pick. Wonderful.

[Scott Weber]

booooooooooo #8.

[xbrokendownx]

7th boo

[StandMyBrothers]

good draft until like the 20th round

[xbrokendownx]

got my boy jeff suppan!

[Broken Parachute]

I had an amazing draft, I really did.

[StandMyBrothers]

I had an amazing draft, I really did.
Ya dude, David Ortiz, Fausto Carmona

[Scott Weber]

I really love my NL and AL teams, I think I will do very well in both.

[StandMyBrothers]

I'm pretty happy with both teams, should be an interesting experience for all of us.

[Broken Parachute]

Ya dude, David Ortiz, Fausto CarmonaI MEANT IN THE NL LEAGUE M-(

[xbrokendownx]

here are my teams:

AL
C- Jorge Posada
1B- Jason Giambi
2B- Jose Lopez
3B- Joe Crede
SS- Michael Young
OF- Carl Crawford
OF- Johnny Damon
OF- Emil Brown
UTIL- Garrett Anderson
BN- Luke Scott
BN- Maicer Izturis
BN- Mark Grudzielanek

SP- Roy Halladay
SP- Javier Vazquez
RP- Bobby Jenks
RP- BJ Ryan (oooof)
P- Joba Chamberlain
P- Rich Harden
P- Scott Baker
BN- Jesse Litsch
BN- Dana Eveland


NL
C- Yadier Molina
1B- Conor Jackson
2B- Ryan Theriot
3B- Garrett Atkins
SS- Jose Reyes
OF- Jay Bruce
OF- Hunter Pence
OF- Shane Victorino
UTIL- Lastings Milledge
BN- Pedro Feliz
BN- Edwin Encarnacion
BN- Ryan Church (DL)

SP- Tim Lincecum
SP- Aaron Cook
SP- John Maine
RP- Takashi Saito
RP- Brandon Lyon
P- Jair Jurrjens
P- Greg Maddux
BN- Jeff Suppan
BN- Jorge Campillo


like my NL team more than my AL team i think

[Scott Weber]

is there an easy way to copy paste your team like that that I'm missing?


It's insane that I ended up with Brandon Webb, Jimmy Rollins, Matt Holliday, Prince Fielder, and Carlos Beltran on an NL-only team.

[Broken Parachute]

These teams are like night and day.

NL
C - Brian McCann
1B - Derek Lee
2B - Kelly Johnson
3B - Chipper Jones
SS - Miguel Tejada
OF - Aaron Rowand
OF - Skip Schumaker
OF - Luis Gonzalez
Util - James Loney
Bench - Moises Alou
Bench - Angel Pagan

SP - Dan Haren
SP - Micah Owings
SP - Randy Johnson
RP - Brad Lidge
RP - Francisco Cordero
P - Jamie Moyer
P - Sean Gallagher
Bench - Bronson Arroyo
Bench - Mike Pelfrey

AL
C - Gerald Laird
1B - Miguel Cabrera
2B - Brian Roberts
3B - Chone Figgins (if I can get him back..I dropped him because I didn't know he was coming off the DL tomorrow, I have to wait for him to clear waivers)
SS - Edgar Renteria
OF - Grady Sizemore
OF - Vladamir Guerrero
OF - Torii Hunter
Util - Jim Thome
Bench - Ivan Rodriguez
DL - Curtis Granderson
DL - David Ortiz

SP - Erik Bedard
SP - Fausto Carmona
RP - JJ Putz
RP - Joe Borowski
P - Rafael Betancourt
P - Nick Blackburn
P - Andy Sonnanstine

[StandMyBrothers]

AL
C-AJ Pierzynski
1B-Alex Gordon
2B-Howie Kendrick
3B-Alex Rodriguez
SS-Yuniesky Betancourt
OF-Ichiro Suzuki
OF-Hideki Matsui
OF-Jermaine Dye
Util-Evan Longoria
BN-Carlos Gonzalez
BN-Jeff Clement

SP-John Lackey
SP-Joe Saunders
RP-Joe Nathan
RP-Joakim Soria
P-Justin Masterson
P-Aaron Laffey
P-Garret Olson
BN-Jon Garland
BN-Francisco Liriano
DL-Daisuke Matsuzaka
DL-Phil Hughes

NL
C-Geovany Soto
1B-Joey Votto
2B-Chase Utley
3B-Aramis Ramirez
SS-Troy Tulowitzki
OF-Jason Bay
OF-Corey Hart
OF-Chris Young
Util-Mike Jacobs
BN-Jeremy Hermida
BN-Cody Ross
DL-Jeff Keppinger
DL-Richie Weeks

SP-Jake Peavy
SP-Ryan Dempster
SP-Taylor Buchholz
RP-Trevor Hoffman
RP-John Grabow
P-Clayton Kershaw
P-Wandy Rodriguez
BN-Homer Bailey

[xbrokendownx]

brad lidge on your AL team...?

[bigmike]

He clearly meant Pat Lidge, the character resembling Huston Street in MVP 05.

[xbrokendownx]

haha

oof putz and borowski, thats rough

[Broken Parachute]

There's like...not even a chance I can come back from that. I don't even have trade bait.

[xbrokendownx]

SMB, i like you NL team a lot

[Scott Weber]

He clearly meant Pat Lidge, the character resembling Huston Street in MVP 05.
LOL.

[Scott Weber]

I remember Felix Hernandez was like...Darrell Buhler in that game or something like that.

[Scott Weber]

Wow. Just looking up those fake names...Matt Derkson was Hanley Ramirez. He was always soooo good in like 3 - 5 years in the franchise. I always used to nab him in a trade to start my franchises in that game.

[bigmike]

I remember Felix Hernandez was like...Darrell Buhler in that game or something like that.
Yup. And he was white, that was the best part.
Wow. Just looking up those fake names...Matt Derkson was Hanley Ramirez. He was always soooo good in like 3 - 5 years in the franchise. I always used to nab him in a trade to start my franchises in that game.
The dudes who were Lasting Milledge and Delmon Young always were brutal. .250 hitters with little pop. Funny how that's becoming accurate...

Hanley owned in that game. I loved trying to get Joe Mauer because he fucking raked in that game.

[Scott Weber]

yeah dude Mauer was soooooooooo good. I think Hairston got to 100/100 vs. lefties, he was sick for platoons.

[bigmike]

Per a mikeford rec back in the day, Tim Spooneybarger always was reliable out of the bullpen. Juan Uribe was surprisingly good, too.

[StandMyBrothers]

SMB, i like you NL team a lot
thanks

[Scott Weber]

Per a mikeford rec back in the day, Tim Spooneybarger always was reliable out of the bullpen. Juan Uribe was surprisingly good, too.
Yes on both accounts, Uribe was dirt cheap and solid for an 85/85 combo.

[bigmike]

it was all about the cheap platoon bargains in that game.

[Scott Weber]

definitely.

[Chris M.]

I still play MVP 2005, haha. Is there a list of all the fake characters that resemble real characters?

and I like my AL and NL teams. I don't really think either are good enough to win it all, but I think they're maybe good enough for 3rd place.

AL:
C - Mike Napoli
1B - Kevin Youkilis
2B - Ian Kinsler
3B - Adrian Beltre
SS - Bobby Crosby
OF - Josh Hamilton
OF - Jacoby Ellsbury
OF - Raul Ibanez
Util - Kevin Millar
BN - Scott Rolen
BN - Jack Cust

SP - Cliff Lee
SP - Chien-Ming Wang
RP - Francisco Rodriguez
RP - Huston Street
P - Gavin Floyd
P - Justin Duchscherer
P - John Danks
BN - Greg Smith
BN - Vicente Padilla
BN - Brian Bannister

NL:
C - Chris Iannetta
1B - Mark Teixeira
2B - Kazuo Matsui
3B - David Wright
SS - Stephen Drew
OF - Ryan Braun
OF - Carlos Lee
OF - Adam Dunn
Util - Ryan Spilborghs
BN - Khalil Greene
BN - Kevin Kouzmanoff
BN - Michael Bourn

SP - Ben Sheets
SP - Aaron Harang
SP - Ted Lilly
RP - Carlos Marmol
RP - Jon Rauch
P - Max Scherzer
P - John Lannan
BN - Kyle Kendrick
BN - Brian Fuentes

[LeftWideOpen]

my DL's in the yahoo ap league and keeper league are comical:

ap #1: Soriano, Furcal, Zimmerman
ap keeper: Soriano, Furcal, Tulowitzki, Zimmerman. And I just dropped Chris Young because I can't have 1/2 my team hurt, haha.

[kshtoinks12]

Was I the only one who got like, 30 of those prospects and looked online to change all of their names to who they really are?

[Scott Weber]

I just downloaded the 06 and 07 patches to have new ratings and rosters, haha.

[crit]

I wish there was a way to do that on gamecube :-(

[Chris M.]

I wish there was a way to do that on gamecube :-(

Same. I might have to pick it up for PS2 for like 5$ just so I can get updated rosters.

And I found the list of fake players who resemble real players

http://faqs.ign.com/articles/592/592306p1.html, for anyone who was interested

[Scott Weber]

I did it on my modded xbox, I just downloaded it and DC'd it over.

[Scott Weber]

98. Greg Wegber, 1B Chicago Cubs (Brian Dopirak)



That's weird. That's my dad's name (almost). Haha.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Juan Berroa was Brian McCann? That makes so much sense now. Dude used to be a STUD

[bigmike]

98. Greg Wegber, 1B Chicago Cubs (Brian Dopirak)



That's weird. That's my dad's name (almost). Haha.
You know what else is weird? Brian Dopirak was in High-A ball in 2005. Now, as a 24 year old, he's in High-A Ball in the Jays organization.

[livethesounds]

ok, would you trade away David Wright and Todd Helton for Carlos Quentin, Miguel Cabrera and James Loney?

[Scott Weber]

quentin is starting to tank, so buyer beware.

[bigmike]

I'd buy that deal because Miggy is on fire and settling in. I would not be surprised if Miggy Cabrera is the best hitter in baseball in the 2nd half of the season.

Edit: And Quentin's still in a hitter's park, so even though his numbers are dropping, he still should reach 28+ HR's this year.

[CubbyNick42]

Yeah, I take the deal. I'd take Loney over Helton as well.

[xbrokendownx]

id almost even do that trade even if you took out one of those guys, pretty much

[Scott Weber]

yeah I'd take the deal still. i think wright is going to slay the 2nd half though.

[livethesounds]

well i'm accepting. I'm pretty deep at 3rd, but i really think Miggy's going to turn it on in the second half. i only have Jorje Cantu at 1st, Loney isnt the best but he's playing better than Helton right now. Quentin's numbers will probably drop, but he was insane in the first few months, he's still gonna be better than Fukudome, who i had as my backup OF.

[Scott Weber]

I think you can flip Quentin for some value at another position you need.

[Scott Weber]

After one week, winning both the AL-only and NL-only league. no big deal.

[Chris M.]

My NL team sucks. I'm still confident about my AL team though, even after losing Wang.

[aloneatlastnj]

for those in the yahoo ap league - anyone looking for a 1B? i've got quite the logjam at the position with nick swisher, james loney and conor jackson. any of them can be yours if the price is right!

[aloneatlastnj]

also - it kinda sucks being in a league with AP sports kids because none of us are stupid. i've been trying to sell high on quentin, giambi, and jackson but you guys aren't having any of it, whereas in another league i'm in i got a-rod for quentin and jurrjens straight up. ridiculous hahaha

[bigmike]

I'm actually a Conor Jackson fan. i think his current pace is sustainable given the year-to-year fluctuations of BABIP I wouldn't be surprised if he did hit .300/.390/.475.

[StandMyBrothers]

sucks to whoever owned Sabathia in the AL-League. So how does he become available in the NL-League?

[xbrokendownx]

his stats continue to count for the AL league

[CubbyNick42]

I'm not sure he does. I tried picking him up in my NL-only (you can find him listed on the can't cut list) and it says he's not valid for that format.

[xbrokendownx]

hes still listed on scott's roster though

i mean thatd be great for me cuz im chasing him but still

[CubbyNick42]

Sorry, I was replying to SMB's comment.

[Scott Weber]

he's still active, are you serious? of course he wouldn't lose eligibility, that would be the dumbest thing ever. he can continue to be used in AL leagues.

[Scott Weber]

Just made a trade in my main league, sold high on Justin Duchsherer and Milton Bradley (with Carlos Pena, who I just grabbed off waivers) for Grady Sizemore and Scott Kazmir. Sell high.

[Scott Weber]

My lineup in that league now (10 teams, mixed-league points) - I drafted 6th.

C - Geovany Soto
1B - David Ortiz (DL), currently playing a Votto/Swisher/Delgado mix
2B - BJ Upton
SS - Hanley Ramirez
3B - David Wright
OF - Grady Sizemore
OF - Matt Holliday
OF - Bobby Abreu
Util - Brad Hawpe
Util - Jay Bruce
BN - Jerry Hairston, Jr

SP - Dice-K
SP - Scott Kazmir
SP - Carlos Zambrano
SP - John Danks
SP - Aaron Harang
SP - Scott Baker
SP - Mike Pelfrey (he's hot! (pause))
SP - Matt Cain
SP - Shaun Marcum (DL)

RP - Jonathon Broxton
RP - Mariano Rivera
RP - Brian Wilson
RP - Brad Lidge

I have a 650 pt lead but I expect to pull away even more now. Through trades I essentially managed to get 5 1st round-worthy draft picks.

[VoiceoffCamera]

I just got offered Brad Lidge and Manny Parra for Rich Harden...Any suggestions on this one.

Right now my team is half a point out of first (roto league) and this is my roster

C - Ryan Doumit
1B - Prince Fielder
2B - Placido Polanco
3B - Garrett Atkins
SS- Michael Young
OF - Ryan Braun
OF - Manny Ramirez
OF - Jermaine Dye
Util - Rick Ankiel
BN - Orlando Cabrera
BN - Chase Headley
BN - Rickie Weeks
DL - Juan Pierre

SP - Rich Harden
SP - Dana Eveland
SP - Chad Billingsley
SP - Cliff Lee
SP - Armando Galarraga
SP - Erik Bedard
SP - Clay Buchholz
DL - Shawn Marcum

RP - Jonathan Papelbon
RP - Joe Nathan
RP - Damaso Marte

I'm pretty much leading our league in most pitching stats

[LeftWideOpen]

I wouldn't do it. You have a fine set of RP's and you can't afford to lose Harden. He's too good, as long as he's healthy.

[StandMyBrothers]

Scott, surely you intend on keeping Bonds for next years fantasy squad ;-)

[Scott Weber]

Scott, surely you intend on keeping Bonds for next years fantasy squad ;-)
Well, I heard the rumors earlier and I had a spot to waste, so if anything comes off it, great. But if nothing does, he's first to drop. But if he does sign, it's a huge asset.

[StandMyBrothers]

yeah if Bonds signs anywhere he's definitely a great fantasy asset. It's like a high reward no risk option you have going there.

[StandMyBrothers]

Weebs with the Blanton pick up in the NL League. I guess he was the only one to put a waiver wire on him, I wasn't going to waste my waiver priority on Joe Blanton.

[Scott Weber]

Weebs with the Blanton pick up in the NL League. I guess he was the only one to put a waiver wire on him, I wasn't going to waste my waiver priority on Joe Blanton.
and I already had the lowest, so....

[StandMyBrothers]

Its either A.) Nobody wanted him. B.) People probably forgot.

[aloneatlastnj]

alright - this is a pretty big decision for me. check out what was offered:

adrian gonzalez
david murphy
dice-k
duchsherer

for

carlos beltran
carl crawford
john lackey
kevin gregg


i personally think he's selling high on duchsherer, gonzalez and murphy. he lacks in SB and i constantly lose in RBI every week. thoughts?

[CubbyNick42]

Yeah, I wouldn't do it. You can probably get better deals by moving Beltran, Crawford, and Lackey individually, if that's even what you want to do.

[aloneatlastnj]

Yeah, I wouldn't do it. You can probably get better deals by moving Beltran, Crawford, and Lackey individually, if that's even what you want to do.

i'm in first place in this league by 14 games or so. there's nothing on the line as far as winning the league goes - no money involved, barely any bragging rights. gotta love having more baseball smarts than the rest of the league. josh hamilton was my very last pick. look where that got me haha

[LeftWideOpen]

yeah, my one regret in fantasy baseball this year was trading josh hamilton for matt cain back on like may 1st. i thought i was selling high/buying low at the time.

cain's been decent, but obviously nowhere near the value of hamilton.

[Chris M.]

alright - this is a pretty big decision for me. check out what was offered:

adrian gonzalez
david murphy
dice-k
duchsherer

for

carlos beltran
carl crawford
john lackey
kevin gregg


i personally think he's selling high on duchsherer, gonzalez and murphy. he lacks in SB and i constantly lose in RBI every week. thoughts?

I wouldn't do it, but since you brought it up, I don't think there's any "selling high" on Gonzalez. He's been putting up good numbers for the past three years, something that is incredibly difficult when you play half your games in Petco.

[xbrokendownx]

im in 2nd in the NL league

...400 points behind weber lol

[Scott Weber]

yeah, my one regret in fantasy baseball this year was trading josh hamilton for matt cain back on like may 1st. i thought i was selling high/buying low at the time.

cain's been decent, but obviously nowhere near the value of hamilton.
oooooof. cain hasn't even been that decent. he's been a struggle. strikeouts and that's it.

[kshtoinks12]

I need some DL replacement help

For Posada, my choices are (and rank them please)

Jose Molina
Carlos Ruiz
Gregg Zaun
Brad Ausmus
Jeff Clement

For the outfield my choices are... (rank em)

Mark Teahan
Emil Brown
Brian Giles
Luis Gonzalez
Willie Harris
Adam Lind

[xbrokendownx]

youre officially fucked

[StandMyBrothers]

Lind's been pretty hot lately.

[Chris M.]

Lind's been pretty hot lately.

pause

[looksthatkillbn]

here's the trade offer:
i trade:
sizemore
burrell
maine
eveland

i get:
kinsler
bradley
adam jones
jurrjens
meche

what should i do?

[Scott Weber]

a million times no.

[xbrokendownx]

yea HELL no. meche is useless, jurrjens may be on an innings limit, adam jones is meh, and the other guys are good but will probably regress

[bigmike]

here's the trade offer:
i trade:
sizemore
burrell
maine
eveland

i get:
kinsler
bradley
adam jones
jurrjens
meche

what should i do?
Looks like the dude that's your trading partner is selling way high on Kinsler/Bradley. I'd pass on that.

[StandMyBrothers]

pause
didn't think that statement needed a no homo.

[LeftWideOpen]

hmmm, I got offered this deal and I'm contemplating it:

I get: Ryan Braun, George Sherill and Chris Ianetta
I give: Joe Nathan, Mark Reynolds, Brian McCann

thoughts?

[CubbyNick42]

Do it. If Iannetta does anything the rest of the way, you win it easy.

[Scott Weber]

I took the lead in AP League #1!

That makes me 1st in:

AP league #1
Keeper League
AL-Only
NL-Only

aka first 4 of the 5 AP baseball leagues. hate to brag but....you guys are getting owned right now. :-p

[xbrokendownx]

ill be taking the one that matters, the pay league!

[Scott Weber]

ugh stupid pay league. will not be playing in that format again. i'm not going to blame my so-so performance on that, i haven't cared nearly enough about that league and that's because i just only pay attention to yahoo when it comes to fantasy, it happened to me in the basketball league too.

[StandMyBrothers]

well who's idea was it to bring SI fantasy basketball here.

[Scott Weber]

you mean CBS.

it was mine. basketball was way better though because they averaged stats. why baseball wouldn't do that is stupid. teams that can load up on starts always have a huge advantage. they should average the two starts like in basketball, i never really got that if you're going to do weekly head to head. doesn't make sense.

[StandMyBrothers]

Sports Illustrated? My bad I guess it was sportsline.

[Broken Parachute]

Man I started out this season really well...then I really fell off. I haven't checked my team in weeks. I really need to finish out great at least.

[xbrokendownx]

Weebs i accepted your deal in the AL league..i just wanted to see if i got Nady through waivers and i did. i probably shouldve waited to use my high waiver priority on Tex but i didnt want to not get either of them so

[crit]

I have the waiver priority and already have a claim in, so Tex will be joining my squad on our quest for first place.

[xbrokendownx]

yea i figured, which is why i didnt want to take the risk on not getting either Nady or Tex

[Chris M.]

sp: dan haren
sp: cole hamels
rp: mariano rivera
rp: brandon morrow
p: edinson volquez
p: jair jurrjens
p: shaun marcum

bn: roy oswalt
bn: chris carpenter
bn: scott olsen

my stacked pitching in my 20-team h2h league. i'm currently in 2nd place, and have struggled a bit the past few weeks, but that's mainly just because it's h2h league and there's so much luck involved.

i'm looking to deal one of these guys in the next few days or so for help and 2nd and 3rd base. who would you guys recommend i try to deal most?

[StandMyBrothers]

so I'm torn between using my No.1 Waiver Priority on Jason Bay, or just wait for David Price. But I wonder if Price will be used like a Joba, or replace Jackson/Sonnanstine.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

sp: dan haren
sp: cole hamels
rp: mariano rivera
rp: brandon morrow
p: edinson volquez
p: jair jurrjens
p: shaun marcum

bn: roy oswalt
bn: chris carpenter
bn: scott olsen

my stacked pitching in my 20-team h2h league. i'm currently in 2nd place, and have struggled a bit the past few weeks, but that's mainly just because it's h2h league and there's so much luck involved.

i'm looking to deal one of these guys in the next few days or so for help and 2nd and 3rd base. who would you guys recommend i try to deal most?
Trade Volquez or Jurrjens. Their value will never be higher. Haren and Hamels will be really solid the rest of the year, so keep them.

[bigmike]

so I'm torn between using my No.1 Waiver Priority on Jason Bay, or just wait for David Price. But I wonder if Price will be used like a Joba, or replace Jackson/Sonnanstine.
uhhh, Jason Bay. I'm as big of a Price fan boy as anyone but he hasn't been overly dominant like a player of his talents should be in the Minors thus far and at the end of the day, he's still a rookie ... unless you need pitching help.

But I'm also 2nd to last in my only fantasy league so don't listen to me.

[StandMyBrothers]

uhhh, Jason Bay. I'm as big of a Price fan boy as anyone but he hasn't been overly dominant like a player of his talents should be in the Minors thus far and at the end of the day, he's still a rookie ... unless you need pitching help.

But I'm also 2nd to last in my only fantasy league so don't listen to me.
I still have my priority claim on Bay, I was just thinking if I should revoke it or not. I'm probably not though.

[Chris M.]

Trade Volquez or Jurrjens. Their value will never be higher. Haren and Hamels will be really solid the rest of the year, so keep them.

Yeah, I'm thinking I could net a big return for Volquez. Possibly someone like Garrett Atkins who would help my team greatly as third base is currently my biggest weakness.

[Chris M.]

Anyone in the keeper league interested in trading for Aubrey Huff? Looking for an OFer or starting pitcher in return.

I've basically got 5 guys to play in 3 positions, and I'd like to give Ian Stewart and Chris Davis some more playing time, but it's too hard to bench Huff with the way he's been playing.

Garrett Atkins may also be available, but I'd be looking for a bigger return.

[xbrokendownx]

my pitching in the keeper league tonight:

14.1 IP, 0.00 ERA, 2 W, 1 SV, 10 K, 1.26 WHIP

[LeftWideOpen]

Uh oh, I may be knocking out MannyTheTorpedo's from the playoff picture in the main league. You're welcome, Pierce, if things dont change today.

looks like Me and Weebs will get to take it easy next week with the 2 bye's.

[Scott Weber]

Uh oh, I may be knocking out MannyTheTorpedo's from the playoff picture in the main league. You're welcome, Pierce, if things dont change today.

looks like Me and Weebs will get to take it easy next week with the 2 bye's.
I've been coasting in that league for a while. not rotating my pitchers in, not really giving it a lot of attention. I knew i couldn't catch you again, so I'm going to chill with the bye.

[Chris M.]

One of these teams made the playoffs in a standard 5x5 12-team H2H league, the other missed the playoffs by 3 games and is in 9th place. Try to guess which one is which.

C - Russell Martin
1B - Kevin Youkilis
2B - Alexei Ramirez
3B - David Wright
SS - JJ Hardy
OF - Nick Markakis
OF - Ryan Ludwick
OF - Milton Bradley
Util - Garret Anderson
BN - Hideki Matsui
BN - Troy Tulowitzki

SP - Jake Peavy
SP - Francisco Liriano
RP - Kerry Wood
RP - Trevor Hoffman
P - Carlos Zambrano
P - Matt Garza
P - Justin Verlander
BN - Manny Parra
BN - Brett Myers
BN - Chris Volstad


C - Jason Varitek
1B - James Loney
2B - Robinson Cano
3B - Kevin Kouzmanoff
SS - Miguel Tejada
OF - Bobby Abreu
OF - Kosuke Fukudome
OF - Delmon Young
Util - Albert Pujols
DL - Mike Lowell

SP - Joe Saunders
SP - John Danks
RP - Brian Wilson
RP - Brad Lidge
P - JJ Putz
P - Scott Olsen
P - Jon Garland
BN - Scott Baker
BN - Armando Galarraga
BN - Wandy Rodriguez
BN - Aaron Cook
BN - Justin Duchscherer

[Scott Weber]

let me guess, the bottom team made the playoffs.

[xbrokendownx]

jason varitek lol

[Chris M.]

let me guess, the bottom team made the playoffs.

Yes, and the top team is mine :-(. This is why I hate H2H. I feel that, on paper, I have a much better team than the one that made the playoffs, maybe even the one that finished in first place. I was just so unlucky all season. One week my offense would be red hot and my pitching would be awful, and vice-versa. I think I'm going to stay away from H2H next year completely because it's such a crapshoot. It doesn't reward consistency as well a roto or points leagues do.

[Scott Weber]

Yes, and the top team is mine :-(. This is why I hate H2H. I feel that, on paper, I have a much better team than the one that made the playoffs, maybe even the one that finished in first place. I was just so unlucky all season. One week my offense would be red hot and my pitching would be awful, and vice-versa.
Yeah. And that's why H2H categories are bullshit.

[xbrokendownx]

weber im about to pass you in the keeper league

just sayin

[Scott Weber]

weber im about to pass you in the keeper league

just sayin
we'll see. i've got some pitchers throwing soon. my team has been slumping huuuuuuuuge lately.

[xbrokendownx]

yea losing Quentin hurts me but Ethier has been hot so hopefully he keeps it up

[Chris M.]

yea losing Quentin hurts me but Ethier has been hot so hopefully he keeps it up

Why would you drop Quentin anyway? It's a keeper league.

Not that I'm complaining though because I'm glad I was able to pick him up.

[xbrokendownx]

yea youre right, i realized that a little bit after i did it. with Santana, Lee, Holliday, Chipper, Phillips, Pena, Nady, and Ethier, ill be alright though

[Chris M.]

yea youre right, i realized that a little bit after i did it. with Santana, Lee, Holliday, Chipper, Phillips, Pena, Nady, and Ethier, ill be alright though

I've just been picking up all the injured guys that get dropped, haha. I don't stand a chance to win next year, so I'm just trying to look forward.

[LeftWideOpen]

my team is surging right now. no way theres enough time for me to catch up, though.

[LeftWideOpen]

uh oh, I need a big weekend to overcome CubbyNick in the free league.

..and I cant believe aloneatlastnj actually has a chance to win this thing. what a comeback.

[Scott Weber]

wow. i tie "sheffield of dreams" (he ties it with a late game magglio homer) and looked up the tiebreaker...

team ERA.

http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/baseball/rules/brules-22.html

I win! Finals here I come.

[xbrokendownx]

magglio is playing right now again

[Scott Weber]

magglio is playing right now again
ohhhhhhhhhhh shit. haha.

[Scott Weber]

omg I just lost.

[Scott Weber]

wow. i don't understand how that happened.

edit: i have AJ and Granderson still to play. Need HR or RBI to break the tie back in my favor for those categories. these doubleheaders have yahoo stattracker going nuts.

[xbrokendownx]

yea the hurricane almost FUCKED my pay league team...i missed a start from dempster and games from Berkman, but im up 2 right now so i think i got it since GF is out of players

[CubbyNick42]

wow. i tie "sheffield of dreams" (he ties it with a late game magglio homer) and looked up the tiebreaker...

team ERA.

http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/baseball/rules/brules-22.html

I win! Finals here I come.
Whoa, no way! I figured it would just be overall record. That helps.

[CubbyNick42]

Also, looks like you're down 4-3, Weebs.

[Scott Weber]

Also, looks like you're down 4-3, Weebs.
Missed my posts afterwards, did we? Yahoo said the week was done and then all of a sudden I lose the tie because there's doubleheaders still going.

[thesteve9x]

Good lord, I was winning my match-up 7-2 last night, now I'm only winning 5-4. I need Danks to lose so badly right now.

[CubbyNick42]

Missed my posts afterwards, did we? Yahoo said the week was done and then all of a sudden I lose the tie because there's doubleheaders still going.
Don't sass me.

[Scott Weber]

Don't sass me.
get sassed.

[CubbyNick42]

uh oh, I need a big weekend to overcome CubbyNick in the free league.
Your team reminds me a ton of one of my other teams. Utley, Hamilton, V-Mart, Markakis, Harden, and a first-round bye. It's going down in flames now. Head-to-head sucks.

[Scott Weber]

Your team reminds me a ton of one of my other teams. Utley, Hamilton, V-Mart, Markakis, Harden, and a first-round bye. It's going down in flames now. Head-to-head sucks.
head to head does suck in baseball. why play 130 games just to get up to a point where one pitcher getting shelled for 8 runs in an inning lose you the entire year?

[Scott Weber]

granderson solo shot tonight wins it for me! see you in the finals, nick.

[CubbyNick42]

Let's rumble.

[Chris M.]

Made it to the finals in my 20-team league. It was looking like it'd be close for me going into yesterday, but a homer for Pat Burrell and a solid start for Vazquez sealed the win for me.

One of the few fantasy H2H instances that I've been a part of where the top two teams from the regular season are in the finals.

[LeftWideOpen]

booooo, bad year for me in fantasy. i've only got 1 of my 5 teams with a shot at a title. last year i won 3.

[IcedOpethBlind]

im currently 1st with a 7 point lead in 2 of my 3 teams

one of my teams i think i only have about 5 or 6 of the players i originally drafted lol....guys like mclouth, alexei ramirez, quentin, aviles, ziegler, liriano saved my ass.

[Scott Weber]

haha i have a shot to win all 4 AP yahoo fantasy leagues.

[StandMyBrothers]

fuck innings maximums.

[Chris M.]

fuck innings maximums.

Floyd is running out of innings in that league too

[xbrokendownx]

yea i only have about 47 more innings and then ill have to load up on position players haha

[Killadelphia]

fuck innings maximums.

Um, that's how Roto leagues work.

[xbrokendownx]

tied you for the lead in the keeper weber!

[Scott Weber]

tied you for the lead in the keeper weber!
yeah....but you're going to get passed in all the pitching categories because you didn't manage your innings right.

[xbrokendownx]

i know youll probably pass me in some categories because of that, but does it really matter h ow the innings are managed? i mean its not like pitching starts a week from now will be any different than those today

[Scott Weber]

i know youll probably pass me in some categories because of that, but does it really matter h ow the innings are managed? i mean its not like pitching starts a week from now will be any different than those today
overall it doesn't matter, but the fact that you're as high as you are now and in a week everyone else will still be pitching while you're standing still means it's going to diminish for you. it's not about me passing you, it's about everyone else.

[xbrokendownx]

yea youre right..a lot of my pitchers have been great the last month or so which is why i havent dropped any. i just dropped carmona and after wellemeyer faces the reds ill drop him tomorrow

[Scott Weber]

big swing back in my favor in the keeper league.

did you know the h2h championship week was 2 weeks cubby?

[xbrokendownx]

yea my pitching was pretty awful last night..5.68 ERA, 1.58 WHIP

[Scott Weber]

my lead is up to 11 in the keeper league. floyd running out of innings means peace to him. i wouldn't be surprised if floyd fell even further.

i've also got a nice lead in the free league championship. in all AP fantasy baseball leagues, I have a great shot at winning first in 4 of 5...and then 3rd in the pay league, which is the other one. totally dominating season.

[CubbyNick42]

did you know the h2h championship week was 2 weeks cubby?
Yeah they're all two weeks. Why?

[Scott Weber]

Yeah they're all two weeks. Why?
i just didn't know. hadn't made the finals in my other h2h yahoo leagues before.

[CubbyNick42]

Ohh ok. I thought you were questioning the Stewart drop, haha.

[Chris M.]

I don't think I ever realized how much I hate when people stream starters in H2H leagues until this week when a guy did that and beat me in the finals of my 20 team league.

[Scott Weber]

Ladies and Gentlemen, your champion of:

AP Keeper League ('95 Mariners) (roto)
AP League #1 (Weebs) (head to head)
AL AL Only League (Weebs) (total points)
AP NL Only League (Weebs) (total points)


Boom! No matter what format, I absolutely destroyed in fantasy this year. First in every single AP Yahoo league and 3rd in the pay league.

[xbrokendownx]

yea i was 2nd in the pay league, 2nd in the keeper, 2nd in the NL league

[Chris M.]

Congrats Weebs. I didn't win any leagues, but all in all, I had a pretty good year.

Here's my six teams that I paid attention to (I had two other but I only joined them because I was bored and felt like doing a fantasy draft lol)

AP Keeper League (PODSEDNIK 4 MVP) (roto) - 10th place - had shit keepers
20 team Yahoo Custom (The Doug Mirabelli's) (H2H) - 2nd place - would've won if that stupid douche didn't stream his starters
10 team Yahoo Custom (BoSox) (points) - 2nd place - didn't take advantage of the no innings limit early enough in the year. My bad.
12 team Yahoo Custom (BoSox) (h2h) - 11th place - fuck h2h
AP AL Only (Chris) (points) - 2nd place - no complaints here. had a good teams. Weebs' was just better.
AP NL Only (Chris) (points) - 4th place - fuck Crit for stealing 3rd place from me in the last week

[Scott Weber]

it's worth noting that I finished 11 out of 12 in the keeper league last year and one of my keepers this year was Justin Verlander.

[Chris M.]

I have a lot of guys to choose from for keepers in that league, but none of them are really fantasy studs except for Howard, and his atrocious start to the year is probably the reason I finished last in AVG and OBP.

edit: Forgot I picked up Quentin but he never played for me.

[StandMyBrothers]

it's worth noting the keeper league was head-to-head last yr, which is why I understood the format much better.

[Scott Weber]

it's worth noting the keeper league was head-to-head last yr, which is why I understood the format much better.
how is the strategy in h2h and roto any different? it's the same categories, one is just weekly vs. somebody else and roto is all year long. the only thing that's different about roto is no luck.

[xbrokendownx]

I have a lot of guys to choose from for keepers in that league, but none of them are really fantasy studs except for Howard, and his atrocious start to the year is probably the reason I finished last in AVG and OBP.

edit: Forgot I picked up Quentin but he never played for me.




yea me dropping quentin probably wasnt smart. totally wasnt thinking during that

oh well, i should have enough guys to choose from with holliday, chipper, ethier, santana, lee, nady, brandon phillips, etc

[StandMyBrothers]

how is the strategy in h2h and roto any different? it's the same categories, one is just weekly vs. somebody else and roto is all year long. the only thing that's different about roto is no luck.
maximums, and you can pick up who's hot basically and who's not. you can stock up on some categories just to get the win.

[Scott Weber]

maximums, and you can pick up who's hot basically and who's not. you can stock up on some categories just to get the win.
maximums play some part. but picking up who's hot and not is a HUGE part of roto - play the hot hand and your overall stats improve for sure. stacking up on categories is also a similar part of roto.

[thesteve9x]

Won both my Yahoo! leagues this year. Won my roto league by 6 points, and have been in first since the All-Star Break.

[looksthatkillbn]

won both of my leagues this year, a 12-teamer and a 20-teamer. today will be the first day that i led in the two weeks of the championship of the 12-teamer. wooooooooooooooooooo

[crit]

Best regular season record in my h2h league with friends but lost in the finals. 3rd in AL-only and NL-only leagues on here. Not too bad.

[LeftWideOpen]

I had a shitty year .. didnt win one league.

laaaame.

[Scott Weber]

I had a shitty year .. didnt win one league.

laaaame.
i could share one of my 5 championship trophies!