Fantasy Baseball '08 [Archive]

Clarett'sGreyGoose

03/02/08, 08:31 AM

Has anyone else's league drafted yet? I'm in a 16 team league and they stupidly scheduled the draft at 8:00 last night. Something like 10/16 teams ended up being auto-picked, including mine.

I can't say I'm overwhelmed with my team, there's some definite weaknesses, such as RP, but I am loaded and primed to make a trade with my SP lineup.

C: Pudge
1B: Todd Helton, Aubrey Huff (1B/3B)
2B: Aaron Hill, Jayson Nix (who?)
3B: Chipper Jones, Scott Rolen
SS: Julio Lugo
OF: Jeremy Hermida, Brad Hawpe, Gary Matthews Jr., Nate McLouth
Util: Jim Thome

SP: Santana, Haren, Webb, Smoltz, Sheets, Marcum (SP/RP)
RP: Isringhausen, Joaquin Benoit

Also I should not this is a h2h league, not roto. I can already see I'll be hurting for saves with only Isringhausen, and I don't have any real "power" guys except Thome, with most everyone else being 10-20 HR guys.

Chris M.

03/02/08, 08:43 AM

I drafted in one of my leagues already. Here's the team:

C: Varitek
1B: Helton
2B: Iguchi
3B: Rolen, LaRoche
SS: H. Ramirez
OF: Bay, Burrell, J. Upton, C. Gomez, Milledge

SP: Haren, Hamels, Myers, McGowan, A. Miller, Bannister
RP: Rivera, Myers, Qualls, Janssen, Delcarmen

I've also dropped four players already: Vidro, Maybin, Anibal Sanchez, Joe Thatcher

It's a twenty team head-to-head league. I'm going to need some help at catcher and second base, thankfully I've got some pitchers I could deal away.

Broken Parachute

03/02/08, 11:12 AM

I loveeee Chipper Jones.

Clarett'sGreyGoose

03/02/08, 08:20 PM

Chipper is one of the only guys I am really, really content with. Also with Rolen backing him up, I should be okay at 3B. My problems are SS, though Lugo is my only steal guy, and 2B because Aaron Hill is...Aaron Hill. I'd also like to upgrade one of my OF's and get some RP strength

bigmike

03/02/08, 08:35 PM

Jeremy Hermida will be a fucking beast this year. He put up .340/.401/.555 in the 2nd half last year and I don't think that is far off what he could do for an entire season if healthy.

Clarett'sGreyGoose

03/02/08, 08:47 PM

Jeremy Hermida will be a fucking beast this year. He put up .340/.401/.555 in the 2nd half last year and I don't think that is far off what he could do for an entire season if healthy.
I'm actually happy with him too, it's Matthews/McLouth that I hate .

EDIT: Put the word out that I was looking for a trade.

Got offered Delmon Young, Russ Springer and Franklin Morales for Aubrey Huff and Dan Haren.

I'm about 98% sure I'm going to deny that.

bigmike

03/02/08, 08:59 PM

If it's one year fantasy, then yeah, probably decline. Though, I love Frankie Morales' arm and I'm a HUGE Delmon fan.

Clarett'sGreyGoose

03/02/08, 09:00 PM

It is one year fantasy

There's some guys with decent save totals from 07 still available but I think most of them are suspect, such as Dempster, Al Reyes, Brad Hennessey, Chris Ray and Dan Wheeler. Guess I should go trade fishing...

Broken Parachute

03/02/08, 09:04 PM

If it's a keeper league, it's a different story. Delmon Young is awesome.

Clarett'sGreyGoose

03/02/08, 09:05 PM

Think I found my target:

one guy has: Joba, Valverde, Cordero, Kevin Gregg, Bob Howry and Brian Wilson as RP's and Brett Myers, Boof Bonser and Jon Lester as SP's.

Maybe I'll try to get Kelly Johnson from him too.

bigmike

03/02/08, 09:06 PM

I like Joakim Soria of the Royals as a closer. I believe he'll be closing in KC and the kid has electric stuff.

Broken Parachute

03/02/08, 09:07 PM

BOOOOFERRRRR

I'm a fan of the Twins this year. I may be the only one, but I like what they added this year.

Clarett'sGreyGoose

03/02/08, 09:10 PM

I picked apart every team in the league trying to find the easiest target, you know, so I didn't have to unload a lot of my talent to get something back. I think I'm going to try to get Gregg and Kelly Johnson from that dude for like, Ben Sheets or something.

It's hard because I really like all of my starters and it's going to be hard to pick which one to get rid of. I just know it won't be Santana.

bigmike

03/02/08, 09:10 PM

bigmike

03/02/08, 09:12 PM

Clarett'sGreyGoose

03/02/08, 09:16 PM

If i had to dump a starter it'd be between Sheets/Marcum but solely because of Sheets nagging injury history. If Sheets makes 35 starts he very well could be the best pitcher in baseball. Keep an eye out on Homer Bailey for the Reds. I think he could dominate Yovani Gallardo style for Cincy this year.
I think Sheets "potential" could net me the two guys I want in Gregg (for save #'s not ERA) and Johnson (because I need a better 2B and the Brave fan in me wants him)

I'll give it a shot. I know Sheets is always hurt, I think I had him and Santana on the same team last year and he bit me in the ass again.

VoiceoffCamera

03/02/08, 09:16 PM

Just drafted in my keeper league

C: Kenji Johjima
1b: Prince Fielder (kept from last year)
2b: Rickie Weeks
3b: Ryan Braun (kept from last year)
SS: Michael Young
OF: Manny Ramirez
OF: Jermaine Dye
OF: Rick Ankiel
UTIL: Garrett Aktins
Bench: Dave Roberts
Bench: Jhonny Peralta
Bench: Frank Thomas
Bench: Chris Duncan

SP: Erik Bedard
SP: Chien-Ming Wang
SP: Chad Billingsley
P: Clay Buchholz
P: Shaun Marcum
P: Rich Harden
RP: Jonathan Paperlbon (kept from last year)
RP: Joe Nathan
Bench: Peter Moylan

Broken Parachute

03/02/08, 09:19 PM

I'm not. Still a terrible lineup outside of Morneau/Cuddyer/Mauer.

I'm actually a big fan of the Royals this year, even fantasy-wise. I think Billy Butler and Alex Gordon will mash and Joakim Soria I think can be their All-Star rep this year out of the closer roll and I'm a Zach Greinke fan, too.Adam Everett/Brendan Harris, SS
Carlos Gomez, CF
Joe Mauer, C
Justin Morneau, 1B
Michael Cuddyer, RF
Delom Young, LF
Jason Kubel, DH
Mike Lamb, 3B
Nick Punto/Brendan Harris, 2B

Francisco Liriano, SP
Boof Bonser, SP
Livan Hernandez, SP
Kevin Slowey, SP
Scott Baker, SP
Joe Nathan, RP
Pat Neshek, RP

I think they need another power bat or at least a good leadoff hitter, and probably another good starter, but I don't think they're too horrible. I don't think they're going anywhere fast this year, but fantasy wise I don't think they're that horrible. Adam Everett and Craig Monroe are garbage though.

bigmike

03/02/08, 09:28 PM

I think Sheets "potential" could net me the two guys I want in Gregg (for save #'s not ERA) and Johnson (because I need a better 2B and the Brave fan in me wants him)

I'll give it a shot. I know Sheets is always hurt, I think I had him and Santana on the same team last year and he bit me in the ass again.
Yeah. I'm just saying that if he does stay healthy all year, that trade could like like a steal for the other kid, or look really bad for the other kid. I want to be a big Ben Sheets fan but it's frustrating.
Adam Everett/Brendan Harris, SS
Carlos Gomez, CF
Joe Mauer, C
Justin Morneau, 1B
Michael Cuddyer, RF
Delom Young, LF
Jason Kubel, DH
Mike Lamb, 3B
Nick Punto/Brendan Harris, 2B

Francisco Liriano, SP
Boof Bonser, SP
Livan Hernandez, SP
Kevin Slowey, SP
Scott Baker, SP
Joe Nathan, RP
Pat Neshek, RP

I think they need another power bat or at least a good leadoff hitter, and probably another good starter, but I don't think they're too horrible. I don't think they're going anywhere fast this year, but fantasy wise I don't think they're that horrible. Adam Everett and Craig Monroe are garbage though.
Looks like a 75 win team to me.

Clarett'sGreyGoose

03/02/08, 09:30 PM

Yeah. I'm just saying that if he does stay healthy all year, that trade could like like a steal for the other kid, or look really bad for the other kid. I want to be a big Ben Sheets fan but it's frustrating.

Looks like a 75 win team to me.
And if it's a steal for him, no big deal. I'll still have Santana, Haren, Webb and Smoltz. And uhh, Marcum.

bigmike

03/02/08, 09:33 PM

True. So long as Santana and Smoltz don't go down with injuries.

Clarett'sGreyGoose

03/02/08, 09:39 PM

That's the fun part about fantasy. If my team gets snakebitten, it's completely out of my control, and I deal

SgtSmegma

03/02/08, 11:28 PM

I like Joakim Soria of the Royals as a closer. I believe he'll be closing in KC and the kid has electric stuff.

Yeah, but the Royals will win 9 games this year, tops. This is coming from a Royals fan.

bigmike

03/02/08, 11:52 PM

I disagree. I think the Royals are a legit mid-70's win team. I think Soria can have 30-35 saves this year. A solid fantasy impact closer.

Scott Weber

03/04/08, 08:29 AM

If i had to dump a starter it'd be between Sheets/Marcum but solely because of Sheets nagging injury history. If Sheets makes 35 starts he very well could be the best pitcher in baseball. Keep an eye out on Homer Bailey for the Reds. I think he could dominate Yovani Gallardo style for Cincy this year.
I'm tired of the whole Ben Sheets could be amazing thing. He'll be 30 this year and he has really only had one great year in his entire career. I do not understand the love, I understand the potential, but they guy has done nothing besides one outstanding year four years ago.

Scott Weber

03/04/08, 08:31 AM

I disagree. I think the Royals are a legit mid-70's win team. I think Soria can have 30-35 saves this year. A solid fantasy impact closer.
If Soria even gets a chance to save 35 games I'll be stunned. I still think the Royals are the worst team in the AL, outside of maybe Baltimore.

Clarett'sGreyGoose

03/04/08, 09:32 PM

So a guy in the league shot me an e-mail asking what I would want for Brandon Webb....

He's already got Beckett, Lackey, Willis, Harden, Carpenter, Maddux as SP and Zumaya, Papelbon and Wagner as RP.

He also has Howie Kendrick and Freddy Sanchez at 2B.

I'm thinking Wagner and Sanchez for Webb and Aaron Hill (my 2B). If he really wants Webb, he may go for it....

startBBtoday

03/05/08, 03:06 PM

if anyone has a league with an open spot, hit me up.

Clarett'sGreyGoose

03/06/08, 08:42 AM

Looking for some advice. I have 3 trades/offers out there and I'm wondering if any of them are worth taking or which one is the best.

I offered:
Aaron Hill and Brandon Webb (this guy sent me a message asking what it would take for Webb)
for Freddy Sanchez and Billy Wagner (I'm very weak at RP)

Offered to me by other teams:
Chris Young, Franklin Morales and Carlos Silva for Aubrey Huff and Brandon Webb

and

Placido Polanco, Jose Guillen and Javier Vazquez for Aaron Hill, Gary Matthews Jr and Brandon Webb.

Keeping in mind that I am absolutely stocked at SP (Webb, Haren, Smoltz, Sheets, Santana and Marcum) and have only Isringhausen at RP. And that Aaron Hill is my 2B as of now, but is my weakest position.

StuGrimson

03/06/08, 09:07 AM

Aaron HIll is going to have a big year in my opinion. I think he is more than capable of hitting 300 with 20 homers and 90 RBIs. Id look to see if someone would overpay for Marcum because I dont think he can cut it as a starter for a full year, at least not successfully. I still think there is a reasonable chance Casey Janssen could take his spot in the rotation or at least a spot.

Scott Weber

03/06/08, 09:08 AM

I seriously was about to post "Here comes StuGrimson to overinflate Blue Jays' fantasy values."

StuGrimson

03/06/08, 09:13 AM

aloneatlastnj

03/06/08, 09:14 AM

lol.

Scott Weber

03/06/08, 09:25 AM

when have I ever done that before, and that sure was an overinflation I did on Marcum there. And expecting Hill to hit 3 more home runs, 12 more RBI's and raise his average by 9 points is really overinflating.
it's just not going to happen, he's going to hit 6th or 7th in that lineup, and he got off to a monster start and then his OPS dropped like 150 points over the next 4 months. he's not going to get to 90 RBIs hitting where he's hitting. I would take about 15 2B before him in fantasy drafts this year, he shouldn't be considered a starter IMO.

ashcroft

03/06/08, 09:51 AM

To say that Aaron Hill is the weakest part of that team is a little far fetched. I'm not saying you can do a hell of a lot better than Aaron Hill, but I would be more worried about only having Pudge at catcher.

Clarett'sGreyGoose

03/06/08, 10:08 AM

Scott Weber

03/06/08, 10:35 AM

I got countered Sanchez and Lackey for Webb.

Going to pass on that and keep Hill for now.

Pudge is still one of the best fantasy catchers. You just don't get much production from that spot, save for Mauer, McCann, Martinez, and a few select others. I can deal with him at C.
I'd take Russell Martin, Posada, and Kenji over him too in a heartbeart, he's a lower-tier starter, but as long as your league doesn't have OBP he's a decent option there.

StuGrimson

03/06/08, 10:41 AM

I would take Gregg Zaun over them, I see 40 homers and 120 rbis this year from him

ashcroft

03/06/08, 10:46 AM

I would take Gregg Zaun over them, I see 40 homers and 120 rbis this year from him
haha well he was on the Mitchell Report. Maybe he'll throw out 20 players trying to steal second. That would be about 20 times the amount he threw out last year.

StuGrimson

03/06/08, 10:48 AM

Zaun is the worst player in all of sports, Ive never seen a less competant catcher at throwing out players. If you got points for throwing the ball to the centre fielder than Id take Zaun

ashcroft

03/06/08, 10:51 AM

Yeah, is barajas (sp?) any better? I haven't looked into his stats.

SgtSmegma

03/06/08, 09:30 PM

I disagree. I think the Royals are a legit mid-70's win team. I think Soria can have 30-35 saves this year. A solid fantasy impact closer.

Theres no way man. I wish that it would happen, but realistically there's no shot. They are in, by far, the toughest division in the league. They also have abysmal starting pitching.

Adam Everett/Brendan Harris, SS
Carlos Gomez, CF
Joe Mauer, C
Justin Morneau, 1B
Michael Cuddyer, RF
Delom Young, LF
Jason Kubel, DH
Mike Lamb, 3B
Nick Punto/Brendan Harris, 2B

Francisco Liriano, SP
Boof Bonser, SP
Livan Hernandez, SP
Kevin Slowey, SP
Scott Baker, SP
Joe Nathan, RP
Pat Neshek, RP

I think they need another power bat or at least a good leadoff hitter, and probably another good starter, but I don't think they're too horrible. I don't think they're going anywhere fast this year, but fantasy wise I don't think they're that horrible. Adam Everett and Craig Monroe are garbage though.

What's the deal with him this year? Is he completely healthy?

Chris M.

03/06/08, 09:37 PM

Theres no way man. I wish that it would happen, but realistically there's no shot. They are in, by far, the toughest division in the league. They also have abysmal starting pitching.

In the central there's really only Detroit and Cleveland. The AL east has Boston, New York and Toronto, and the NL West is very tough as well with 4 very good teams. To say that it's the toughest division BY FAR is a bit of a stretch.

SgtSmegma

03/06/08, 09:41 PM

In the central there's really only Detroit and Cleveland. The AL east has Boston, New York and Toronto, and the NL West is very tough as well with 4 very good teams. To say that it's the toughest division BY FAR is a bit of a stretch.

The Twins are perennially at least an above average team. I know they lost Torii Hunter and Santana, but they're still going to find a way to be good I would speculate. Also, the White Sox are just a few years removed from being in the World Series. Everything went wrong last year; I wouldn't be surprised if they were good again this year.

The NL West is a joke.

Scott Weber

03/06/08, 11:12 PM

No, the NL Central is a joke. The NL West isn't that bad. Especially with Arizona getting Haren and the Dodgers having Matt Kemp for a full year and upgrading their rotation.

LeftWideOpen

03/07/08, 07:14 AM

yeah the NL West is the deepest division in the NL. Los Angeles, Colorado, Arizona, San Diego .. you could make a case for any one of them as the division champ and then you could make a case for any of the other 3 as the WC.

I'd probably put that division 2nd behind the AL East and thats because Tampa Bay won't be a complete joke any longer.

AL East
NL West
AL Central
NL East
NL Central
AL West

Clarett'sGreyGoose

03/07/08, 07:22 AM

Killadelphia

03/07/08, 08:01 AM

I'm putting Pujols on the block in my other keeper league for a player and a pick.

Also, in our keeper league, I'm having a hard time deciding between Myers, Dice-K, and Shields.

Scott Weber

03/07/08, 08:57 AM

Clarett'sGreyGoose

03/07/08, 10:05 AM

LeftWideOpen

03/07/08, 10:10 AM

Dude, there is no chance that the AL West is worse than the NL Central, you are absolutely insane.

4 team league, 1/2 of which are mediocre to bad. I'd take the top 2 in the NL Central (Brewers and Cubs, IMO) over the Angels and M's.

The more time I spend thinking about the Angels, the less I like that team. They are hanging together by a thread.

The bottom-tier of the NL Central really makes that division look bad, but it has improved as a whole. They have 2 teams w/ a serious chance at the NL pennant.

Chris M.

03/07/08, 10:14 AM

The Twins are perennially at least an above average team. I know they lost Torii Hunter and Santana, but they're still going to find a way to be good I would speculate. Also, the White Sox are just a few years removed from being in the World Series. Everything went wrong last year; I wouldn't be surprised if they were good again this year.

The NL West is a joke.

The Twins will not even be a .500 team this year, neither will Chicago or KC

Aside from San Francisco, I think each team in the NL West will be above .500 and will be in the playoff hunt. To say that division is a joke makes you look like an idiot because it's clearly the second best division in baseball.

SgtSmegma

03/07/08, 10:20 AM

The Twins will not even be a .500 team this year, neither will Chicago or KC

Aside from San Francisco, I think each team in the NL West will be above .500 and will be in the playoff hunt. To say that division is a joke makes you look like an idiot because it's clearly the second best division in baseball.

The NL West is full of decent teams. No great teams. No one in the NL West has a chance to win the National League pennant.

And I know Colorado made it to the world series last year, but that was a fluke and they got humiliated in a sweep.

LeftWideOpen

03/07/08, 10:23 AM

The NL West is full of decent teams. No great teams. No one in the NL West has a chance to win the National League pennant.

????

how about four?

The NL will be wide open this year. I really see 9 teams w/ a decent chance at the pennant: New York, Philly, Atlanta, Chicago, Milwaukee, Colorado, Los Angeles, Arizona and San Diego.

SgtSmegma

03/07/08, 10:25 AM

????

how about four?

The NL will be wide open this year. I really see 9 teams w/ a decent chance at the pennant: New York, Philly, Atlanta, Chicago, Milwaukee, Colorado, Los Angeles, Arizona and San Diego.

Probably one of those three will win it. I could see the Diamondbacks having a good year if some of their younger players come along, but that's a huge "if"

And I qualify this by acknowledging that anything can happen in sports, and I'm quite aware that I could be eating my words come October. But on paper, no team in the NL West looks particularly impressive to me.

Scott Weber

03/07/08, 10:33 AM

4 team league, 1/2 of which are mediocre to bad. I'd take the top 2 in the NL Central (Brewers and Cubs, IMO) over the Angels and M's.

The more time I spend thinking about the Angels, the less I like that team. They are hanging together by a thread.

The bottom-tier of the NL Central really makes that division look bad, but it has improved as a whole. They have 2 teams w/ a serious chance at the NL pennant.
Whaaaaaaaaa? Brewers and Cubs over the M's and Angels? What foundation do you even have for that? They had far worse records in a far worse league and the M's and Angels did nothing but improve.

LeftWideOpen

03/07/08, 11:00 AM

Whaaaaaaaaa? Brewers and Cubs over the M's and Angels? What foundation do you even have for that? They had far worse records in a far worse league and the M's and Angels did nothing but improve.

I dont think the Angels improved much. The Cabrera/Garland deal was awful to me and limits the overall effect the Hunter signing will have on the lineup. But my biggest concern with the Angels is how many key contributors they have w/ injuries or significant injury concerns: Escobar, Lackey, Guerrero, Kendrick, Anderson, Figgins. I don't see this team holding up over the course of the season.

Seattle, undoubtedly, got better by adding Bedard. But I think the Cubs will be much better with Fukudome in hand and the Brewers I expect to improve just by having guys like Fielder, Gallardo, Braun, Hall, Hardy and Weeks with another year of experience under their belt.

I'm not saying its a slam dunk .. theres only a small gap between the 2 divisions, in my opinion, but I expect the NL Central to be stronger this upcoming season.

Killadelphia

03/07/08, 11:06 AM

The NL Central sucks. Every game is going to be like 10-6 except for maybe when 5 pitchers pitch.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/rpi?season=2007&sortColumn=rpi

Scott Weber

03/07/08, 11:18 AM

I dont think the Angels improved much. The Cabrera/Garland deal was awful to me and limits the overall effect the Hunter signing will have on the lineup. But my biggest concern with the Angels is how many key contributors they have w/ injuries or significant injury concerns: Escobar, Lackey, Guerrero, Kendrick, Anderson, Figgins. I don't see this team holding up over the course of the season.

Seattle, undoubtedly, got better by adding Bedard. But I think the Cubs will be much better with Fukudome in hand and the Brewers I expect to improve just by having guys like Fielder, Gallardo, Braun, Hall, Hardy and Weeks with another year of experience under their belt.

I'm not saying its a slam dunk .. theres only a small gap between the 2 divisions, in my opinion, but I expect the NL Central to be stronger this upcoming season.
I don't think they improved a ton, but they're still better. And I don't see them holding up either, but they're still a 90 win team, either way. We should put a friendly overall W/L record bet on the divisions...

LeftWideOpen

03/07/08, 12:02 PM

I don't think they improved a ton, but they're still better. And I don't see them holding up either, but they're still a 90 win team, either way. We should put a friendly overall W/L record bet on the divisions...

haha, I dont know if I'd take that .. I fully expect Pittsburgh to be perhaps the worst team in the league.

bigmike

03/07/08, 12:08 PM

I'm really looking at this Polanco, Jose Guillen and Vazquez for Webb, Hill and Gary Matthews.

Obviously Webb to Vazquez is a big downgrade, but I think the other two players are clear upgrades.

Anyone want to give me some advice?
Polanco will regress this year. I'm not a fan of his fantasy wise. No way he hits .340+ this year again and he's only a lifetime .300 hitter (i think, not looking at the numbers).
Whaaaaaaaaa? Brewers and Cubs over the M's and Angels? What foundation do you even have for that? They had far worse records in a far worse league and the M's and Angels did nothing but improve.
For me, it goes:

Mariners
Cubs
Angels
Brewers.

Chris M.

03/07/08, 12:29 PM

The NL West is full of decent teams. No great teams. No one in the NL West has a chance to win the National League pennant.

And I know Colorado made it to the world series last year, but that was a fluke and they got humiliated in a sweep.

That's because there's hardly any "great" teams in the league. And I still fail to see your logic, how does no one in that division stand a chance to win the pennant?

You said New York, Chicago or Philly is going to win it. Sure, New York improved by adding Santana, and Chicago by adding Fukudome, but Philly don't seem to made any acquisitions that will improve their record. I see them having a similar record to last year's, possibly a few games worse, and that will not be enough to make the playoffs.

So that leaves New York and Chicago, neither of whom I'd call "great" teams by any means and I don't think either one of them would easily walk all over a NL West team. The NL West may not win the pennant, but I believe they'll send two teams to the playoffs (Arizona & San Diego are my guess) and both will still have a chance. That seems pretty good for a "garbage" division.

Scott Weber

03/07/08, 12:30 PM

Polanco will regress this year. I'm not a fan of his fantasy wise. No way he hits .340+ this year again and he's only a lifetime .300 hitter (i think, not looking at the numbers).

For me, it goes:

Mariners
Cubs
Angels
Brewers.
I like your style.

SgtSmegma

03/07/08, 12:32 PM

That's because there's hardly any "great" teams in the league. And I still fail to see your logic, how does no one in that division stand a chance to win the pennant?

You said New York, Chicago or Philly is going to win it. Sure, New York improved by adding Santana, and Chicago by adding Fukudome, but Philly don't seem to made any acquisitions that will improve their record. I see them having a similar record to last year's, possibly a few games worse, and that will not be enough to make the playoffs.

So that leaves New York and Chicago, neither of whom I'd call "great" teams by any means and I don't think either one of them would easily walk all over a NL West team. The NL West may not win the pennant, but I believe they'll send two teams to the playoffs (Arizona & San Diego are my guess) and both will still have a chance. That seems pretty good for a "garbage" division.

Ultimately, I think New York will win their division and the NL pretty easily. They improved immensely by adding Santana and Pedro could be healthy. They also have a great offense. That meltdown last year should serve to motivate them even further this season.

bigmike

03/07/08, 12:33 PM

I'm coming around on the M's, Weebs. Taking a while, but I'm getting there. Still, as a whole, that lineup underwhelms me and it's rather close between Cubs/M's for me.

Scott Weber

03/07/08, 12:48 PM

I'm coming around on the M's, Weebs. Taking a while, but I'm getting there. Still, as a whole, that lineup underwhelms me and it's rather close between Cubs/M's for me.
well yeah, the bats for the m's are very mediocre.

Killadelphia

03/07/08, 12:58 PM

Ultimately, I think New York will win their division and the NL pretty easily. They improved immensely by adding Santana and Pedro could be healthy. They also have a great offense. That meltdown last year should serve to motivate them even further this season.

I don't think the Mets win it that easy. I'll take the overall SD, LA, Arizona rotations over the Mets. The Mets offense is good, but not great.

You said New York, Chicago or Philly is going to win it. Sure, New York improved by adding Santana, and Chicago by adding Fukudome, but Philly don't seem to made any acquisitions that will improve their record.

Yeah, sucks the Phillies won 89 games when the only players not to land on the DL were Jimmy Rollins, Aaron Rowand, and Jamie Moyer.

I think we used 29 different pitchers last year, not including September call-ups.

No improvements? Though they didn't exactly improve the closer role, I think Lidge and Myers would post similar numbers, but it moves Myers back to the rotation, which gives them at least one quality pitcher not named Cole Hamels in the rotation. Secondly, they extremely improved their defense, by adding Feliz. Now, with their 3 guys that love giving up ground balls in Hamels, Moyer, and Kendrick, that move is huge. It sure up position defensively that has never been filled since the trading of Scott Rolen.

They've also become better in the outfield by moving Shane Victorino to center field as he is faster and has a much better arm than Aaron Rowand. Also, they will use Werth or Jenkins in right who are no slouches defensively and have above average arms. Pat Burrell's foot is also healthy and has looked noticeably faster this spring.

Now onto the line-up, though I think we still lack a consistent right-handed bat, they have added a power to an already powerful line-up. Can Jenkins protect Burrell? We'll see. I'd expect Jenkins and Feliz to put up better numbers than last year, especially in our park when it comes to home runs. Also, Feliz no longer has to try and protect Barry Bonds. I'm not a big believer in that kind of stuff, but many people have said he should improve because the pressure is gone.

And to think Ryan Howard had a "down" year with regards to hitting for average. Really just a down first two months when he was playing injured. This year he is healthy and has been hitting the shit out of the ball thus far. Currently 10 hits in 22 at-bats, 16 total bases and only 4 Ks.

And then you have the fact that everyone is coming back healthy. It is hard to say that the team hasn't improved.

The Mets meltdown in September was just the same as ours in April.

SgtSmegma

03/07/08, 01:13 PM

I don't think the Mets win it that easy. I'll take the overall SD, LA, Arizona rotations over the Mets. The Mets offense is good, but not great.

Their top 4 is probably the best in the entire MLB. After that its a bit of a question mark, but Carlos Delgado could come back and produce, although that is unlikely. They also have Moises Alou and I think Shawn Greene still.

Killadelphia

03/07/08, 01:46 PM

Their top 4 is probably the best in the entire MLB. After that its a bit of a question mark, but Carlos Delgado could come back and produce, although that is unlikely. They also have Moises Alou and I think Shawn Greene still.

hahah are you kidding me?

I'll take Peavy/Young over Santana/Pedro.

Maine isn't that great.

Alou is out at least 6 weeks, more likely to be 8 weeks or so. Shawn Green isn't a Met. Delgado is also battling injuries.

SgtSmegma

03/07/08, 01:58 PM

hahah are you kidding me?

I'll take Peavy/Young over Santana/Pedro.

Maine isn't that great.

Alou is out at least 6 weeks, more likely to be 8 weeks or so. Shawn Green isn't a Met. Delgado is also battling injuries.

Nonono, I meant in the batting lineup, not pitching rotation. Reyes, Castillo, Wright and Beltran.

Killadelphia

03/07/08, 02:02 PM

Nonono, I meant in the batting lineup, not pitching rotation. Reyes, Castillo, Wright and Beltran.

Yeah I'll take the two mvps the Phillies have, Utley, and a speedy contact guy in Victorino over that any day of the week.

Phillies didn't score 88 more runs on accident lol.

SgtSmegma

03/07/08, 02:05 PM

Yeah I'll take the two mvps the Phillies have, Utley, and a speedy contact guy in Victorino over that any day of the week.

Phillies didn't score 88 more runs on accident lol.

Its not a laughable proposition to propose that the Mets have the best top of the lineup in the league. I'll admit that the Phillies top 4 is damn good, I just think the Mets have the edge. Wright and Reyes are still progressing, and Beltran is an RBI machine. Luis Castillo is speedy and gets on base at a high percentage. I wouldn't want to be a starting pitcher going up against Rollins, Utley and Howard though.

Killadelphia

03/07/08, 02:27 PM

Its not a laughable proposition to propose that the Mets have the best top of the lineup in the league. I'll admit that the Phillies top 4 is damn good, I just think the Mets have the edge. Wright and Reyes are still progressing, and Beltran is an RBI machine. Luis Castillo is speedy and gets on base at a high percentage. I wouldn't want to be a starting pitcher going up against Rollins, Utley and Howard though. 1 - Castillo has bad knees, not as speedy as he used to be. Hasn't even ran yet in spring training. 2 - Lets compare their seasons from last year. 01 Rollins - 716 AB, .296, .344 OBP, .531 SLG, 139 R, 212 H, 38 2B, 20 3B, 30 HR, 94 RBI, 41 SB Reyes - 681 AB, .280, .354 OBP, .421 SLG, 119 R, 191 H, 36 2B, 12 3B, 12 HR, 57 RBI, 78 SB 02 Victorino - 456 AB, .281, .347, .423, 78 R, 128 H, 23 2B, 3 3B, 12 HR, 46 RBI, 37 SB Castillo (as a Met) - 199 AB, .296, .371, .372, 37 R, 59 H, 8 2B, 2 3B, 1 HR, 20 RBI, 10 SB 03 Utley - 530 AB, .332, .410, .566, 104 R, 176 H, 48 2B, 5 3B, 22 HR, 103 RBI, 9 SB Wright - 604 AB, .325, .416, .546, 113 R, 196 H, 42 2B, 1 3B, 30 HR, 107 RBI, 34 SB 04 Howard - 529 AB, .268, .392, .584, 94 R, 142 H, 26 2B, 0 3B, 47 HR, 136 RBI, 1 SB Beltran - 554 AB, .276, .354, .525, 93 R, 153 H, 33 2B, 3 3B, 33 HR, 112 RBI 23 SB

Edit what the fuck? Do we have to put line breaks now?

SgtSmegma

03/07/08, 02:37 PM

1 - Castillo has bad knees, not as speedy as he used to be. Hasn't even ran yet in spring training. 2 - Lets compare their seasons from last year. 01 Rollins - 716 AB, .296, .344 OBP, .531 SLG, 139 R, 212 H, 38 2B, 20 3B, 30 HR, 94 RBI, 41 SB Reyes - 681 AB, .280, .354 OBP, .421 SLG, 119 R, 191 H, 36 2B, 12 3B, 12 HR, 57 RBI, 78 SB 02 Victorino - 456 AB, .281, .347, .423, 78 R, 128 H, 23 2B, 3 3B, 12 HR, 46 RBI, 37 SB Castillo (as a Met) - 199 AB, .296, .371, .372, 37 R, 59 H, 8 2B, 2 3B, 1 HR, 20 RBI, 10 SB 03 Utley - 530 AB, .332, .410, .566, 104 R, 176 H, 48 2B, 5 3B, 22 HR, 103 RBI, 9 SB Wright - 604 AB, .325, .416, .546, 113 R, 196 H, 42 2B, 1 3B, 30 HR, 107 RBI, 34 SB 04 Howard - 529 AB, .268, .392, .584, 94 R, 142 H, 26 2B, 0 3B, 47 HR, 136 RBI, 1 SB Beltran - 554 AB, .276, .354, .525, 93 R, 153 H, 33 2B, 3 3B, 33 HR, 112 RBI 23 SB

Edit what the fuck? Do we have to put line breaks now?

Those numbers are comparable.

Killadelphia

03/07/08, 02:54 PM

Lol, okay. Phillies top 4 knocked in 379 runs in 2231 at-bats. Mets top 4 knocked in 296 in 2038 at-bats. Phils knocked in a run every 5.88 at-bats. Mets top 4 knocked in a run every 6.89 at-bats.

And not the mention the other 4 batters are better than the rest of the Mets line-up.

vandalroyale

03/07/08, 04:37 PM

StandMyBrothers

03/07/08, 06:43 PM

Are you guys willing to join another fantasy league? I'm thinking about maybe making it like 25 rounds deep. Points or Head to Head. Would you guys be interested?

Killadelphia

03/07/08, 06:46 PM

im filled in yahoo leagues with their gay 4

SgtSmegma

03/07/08, 06:54 PM

Killadelphia

03/07/08, 06:58 PM

SgtSmegma

03/07/08, 08:34 PM

Also take into consideration Utley missed 5 weeks, Howard missed 3 weeks, and Victorino didn't start a whole lot after he got hurt in July.

The thing is you said they're the best in the league when realistically, they're not even the best in their own division.

Ok, well, even if I gave you the Phillies top 4 as better than the Mets, they'd still be the second best in the league. Who would be better than them?

Scott Weber

03/07/08, 11:01 PM

I hate to do this in both threads...but seriously, the AP league AND the keeper leagues both have drafts on Wed, March 19th? Come on. 1) I don't think I can make either 2) Nobody should have to sit in front of a computer for 4 hours straight doing nothing but drafting. Can we change these, please?

Killadelphia

03/08/08, 08:42 AM

Ok, well, even if I gave you the Phillies top 4 as better than the Mets, they'd still be the second best in the league. Who would be better than them?

Considering Colorado, Atlanta, and then the Boston, Detroit, and Atlanta all had substantially more runs last year in the AL. I'd say there is a number of them.

And the Phillies have better top 8 than the Mets and so does probably Colorado, just in the NL. Also, the Dodgers may have a better top 8 this year.

SgtSmegma

03/08/08, 09:08 AM

Considering Colorado, Atlanta, and then the Boston, Detroit, and Atlanta all had substantially more runs last year in the AL. I'd say there is a number of them.

And the Phillies have better top 8 than the Mets and so does probably Colorado, just in the NL. Also, the Dodgers may have a better top 8 this year.

Okay I'm just going to go ahead and quit because its obvious that neither of us are going to relent.

Killadelphia

03/08/08, 09:37 AM

Okay I'm just going to go ahead and quit because its obvious that neither of us are going to relent.

It's just obvious, you went overboard with your initial statement.

LeftWideOpen

03/15/08, 03:22 PM

just a reminder to those of you in my league: draft is tomorrow at 10 EST. If you arent going to make it, then make sure to prerank. Cubbynick is the only one who won't be there, as far as I know.

Scott Weber

03/16/08, 02:23 PM

rofl, 6 team league and complete ridiculousness: I can't see any way that I just won't dominate, my team is so balanced.

http://i27.tinypic.com/33x8tg6.jpg

AshesAshes

03/16/08, 02:33 PM

Haha, thats a stacked team. I like seeing Hawpe and Holliday on your roster.

xbrokendownx

03/16/08, 02:33 PM

haha Kazmir starting on the bench..thats a sign of a pretty damn good team

AshesAshes

03/16/08, 02:33 PM

haha Kazmir starting on the bench..thats a sign of a pretty damn good team

Haha, I was thinking that also.

Killadelphia

03/16/08, 03:18 PM

except the fact 4 of your pitchers have some injury concerns, that team is stacked. 6 teams...that has to be a crazy league.

LeftWideOpen

03/16/08, 07:31 PM

fuck, brokendown got first pick!

i'm #6

Killadelphia

03/16/08, 07:32 PM

i'm 12, wahoo!

Scott Weber

03/16/08, 07:34 PM

fuck, brokendown got first pick!

i'm #6
#5...sure we'll be stealing each other's picks all day.

Scott Weber

03/16/08, 07:34 PM

i'm 12, wahoo!
there's only 10 teams, you always find a way to be more pessimistic than needed, right?

Killadelphia

03/16/08, 07:40 PM

there's only 10 teams, you always find a way to be more pessimistic than needed, right?

lol yeah, LWO informed me there were only 10. I'm not being pessimistic. 10th isn't too bad in a baseball league.

xbrokendownx

03/16/08, 07:45 PM

#1 = ARod hooray

Scott Weber

03/16/08, 09:21 PM

so fucking pumped about my team, sans my outfield. might start matsui over Andruw Jones until I see if he can bounce back or not.

Drew Beringer

03/16/08, 09:47 PM

How does fantasy baseball even work? haha

Killadelphia

03/16/08, 09:48 PM

like nba h2h and so forth.

Drew Beringer

03/16/08, 09:49 PM

Scott Weber

03/16/08, 09:50 PM

How does fantasy baseball even work? haha
the team with the most brewers wins.

Drew Beringer

03/16/08, 09:52 PM

the team with the most brewers wins.
God I hope so.

LeftWideOpen

03/16/08, 09:58 PM

I love my team, too. I dont think I have a weakness .. besides maybe C.

Drew Beringer

03/16/08, 10:25 PM

I'm pretty happy with my team too.

ForlrnPerplxity

03/16/08, 11:28 PM

Who do you all think has the best team, outside of your own? Worst?

Drew Beringer

03/16/08, 11:33 PM

Mine's the best because I have the most Brewers

Scott Weber

03/16/08, 11:39 PM

Who do you all think has the best team, outside of your own? Worst?
Left Wide, worst is John's by far.

Broken Parachute

03/17/08, 12:01 AM

I totally forgot about the draft. I'm an idiot.

Broken Parachute

03/17/08, 12:03 AM

Left Wide, worst is John's by far.Honestly, it could have been a lot worse than what I ended up with.

LeftWideOpen

03/17/08, 08:22 AM

honest to god, as drew was drafting ... i thought his team was becoming a mess because of all the brewers picks. but after just looking, its not bad.

i'd say pierce and weebs have the best looking teams (outside of myself of course!)

BP's is maybe the worst. But there isnt one team thats just a trainwreck.

Scott Weber

03/17/08, 08:40 AM

still jazzin' about my rotation, it is fillllllllllthy.

xbrokendownx

03/17/08, 09:01 AM

my squad:

C- Brian McCann
1B- Adrian Gonzalez
2B- Howie Kendrick
SS- Troy Tulowitzki
3B- Alex Rodriguez
OF- Vladimir Guerrero
OF- Brad Hawpe
OF- Jacoby Ellsbury
UTIL- Todd Helton
BN- Raul Ibanez
BN- Jermaine Dye
BN- Kaz Matsui

SP- Erik Bedard
SP- Justin Verlander
RP- Francsico Cordero
RP- Huston Street
P- Roy Oswalt
P- Phil Hughes
P- Dontrelle Willis
BN- Ian Snell
BN- Tony Pena

Drew Beringer

03/17/08, 09:18 AM

aloneatlastnj

03/17/08, 09:26 AM

C- Russel Martin
1B- Nick Swisher
2B- Robinson Cano
3B- Chipper Jones
SS- Jimmy Rollins
OF- Delmon Young
OF- Jeremy Hermida
OF- Adam Jones
UTIL- Gary Sheffield
BN- Rickie Weeks
BN- James Loney
BN- Wilson Betemit

SP- C.C Sabathia
SP- Roy Halladay
RP- J.J. Putz
RP- Hideki Okajima
P- Tim Hudson
P- Adam Wainwright
P- B.J. Ryan
BN- Rafael Betancourt
BN- Brian Fuentes

i have no idea why the hell i picked fuentes to be honest. we'll see how i do. i'm expecting some big things from my team.

Scott Weber

03/17/08, 09:29 AM

you're gonna be in trouble at 3B once chipper gets hurt.

Drew Beringer

03/17/08, 09:30 AM

C Joe Mauer
1B Prince Fielder
2B BJ Upton
SS JJ Hardy
3B Ryan Braun
OF Hunter Pence
OF Ken Griffey Jr.
OF Kosuke Fukudome
Util Dmitri Young
BN Stephen Drew
BN Troy Glaus
BN Bill Hall
BN Wily Mo Pena

SP Dan Haren
SP Aaron Harang
RP Joba Chamberlain
RP Eric Gagne
P Yovani Gallardo
P Franciso Liriano
P Pedro Martinez
BN Barry Zito

I like my team a lot.

Scott Weber

03/17/08, 09:38 AM

C Ramon Hernandez
1B David Ortiz
2B Brandon Phillips
SS Jose Reyes
3B Garrett Atkins
OF Adam Dunn
OF Hideki Matsui
OF Chris B. Young
BN Andruw Jones
BN Evan Longoria
BN Jeff Kent

SP Josh Beckett
SP John Smoltz
RP Rafael Soriano
RP Troy Percival
P Scott Kazmir
P Chad Billingsley
P Ted Lilly
BN Kevin Gregg
BN Rich Harden

Title plz.

Drew Beringer

03/17/08, 09:40 AM

I should just rename my fantasy team The Milwaukee Brewers.

aloneatlastnj

03/17/08, 09:44 AM

you're gonna be in trouble at 3B once chipper gets hurt.

yeah i'm not happy with the chipper and fuentes picks. i'll probably drop chipper and look at the FA pool for a decent 3b.

Scott Weber

03/17/08, 09:52 AM

yeah i'm not happy with the chipper and fuentes picks. i'll probably drop chipper and look at the FA pool for a decent 3b.
don't drop chipper. he's elite when healthy. you need to drop fuentes and look for a backup 3b.

LeftWideOpen

03/17/08, 10:31 AM

C- Ivan Rodriguez
1B- Mark Teixeira
2B- Chase Utley
SS- Miguel Tejada
3B- Ryan Zimmerman
OF- Alfonso Soriano
OF- Nick Markakis
OF- Vernon Wells
UTIL- Michael Young
BN - Josh Hamilton
BN - Edwin Encarnacion
BN - Michael Cuddyer

SP- Cole Hamels
SP- Chris Young
RP- Jonathan Papelbon
RP- Mariano Rivera
P- Ben Sheets
P- Matt Cain
P- Jered Weaver
BN- Jeremy Bonderman
BN- Tom Gorzelanny

Scott Weber

03/17/08, 10:36 AM

Drew Beringer

03/17/08, 10:38 AM

I renamed my team.

Scott Weber

03/17/08, 10:44 AM

me too!

LeftWideOpen

03/17/08, 10:59 AM

I like your lineup leftwide, but I have a lot of questions about your rotation, especially your backend. Hamels will be great, I don't expect Young to repeat, but Sheets, Cain, and Weaver are total toss-ups.

I dont think Cain is a toss-up for anything besides wins. He had a sick year, W/L aside, and is only 23. He's just getting started.

Same goes for Weaver, I think. He's the Angels de facto ace w/ Lackey out and he's lit it up this spring. I think hes a fine #4 starter in fantasy, even if he doesnt breakout, and thats good enough for what I need out of him.

Sheets is always a question mark, but he was worth a look in the round I got him. I also used 2 BN spots on pitchers for that very reason .. Sheets is basically an upside pick (w/ a slightly better odds than someone like Harden).

Young's put together 2 solid back to back years .. I'm not expecting Cy Young stuff, but I'll take an ERA in the mid 3's and the low WHIP he brings to the table.

My lineup is definitely my strength but I think my rotation has a ton of upside. If it doesnt work out w/ someone like Sheets, I'm glad to have a guy like Gorzelanny on the bench. He's probably one of the most underrated SP's out there because of the uniform he wears.

Scott Weber

03/17/08, 11:09 AM

Yes, I think your rotation has upside. However, it is risky. I would hardly call Cain's year sick, his K/9 was ok, not great, his ERA for the division he's in was good, not great, and his WHIP is good, not great. Weaver got tagged pretty hard after the break last year with a ERA over 4, and his k/9 isn't good either. His WHIP was a disasterous 1.39 last year too, which is excusable if you're say, Scott Kazmir (:-)) but not Weaver who doesn't do great in any category. Sheets kills me because he's only been elite one year, it was a long time ago, and he can't stay healthy. I hate the Gorzelanny pick, he got drilled after the break last year, his ERA was over 5 and his WHIP was over 1.60, he doesn't strike anybody out, and he's not going to win many games. That's my take.

Killadelphia

03/17/08, 12:31 PM

Killadelphia

03/17/08, 12:36 PM

Here's my team. On 2nd look, I don't like it that much, but it does have some nice potential. I have some decent power numbers.

C - Victor Martinez
1B - Howard
2B - Figgins (3B,OF)
3B - Cabrera
SS - Guillen (1B)
OF - Hart
OF - Victorino
OF - Kemp
Util - Burrell, Youkilis, Escobar, Rasmus

SP - Webb
SP - King Felix
RP - Wagner
RP - Borowski
P - Myers
P - Dice-K
P - Lyon
Bench - Bucholz, Wang

Scott Weber

03/17/08, 12:39 PM

Why don't you think Young can repeat?
Because he was abnormally lights out at the start of the season, and then injuries hit again. Dude's been hurt every single year, and once he tweaks something, his numbers start falling. There are other super sabermetric reasons I think he'll regress, among those his xFIP, but that's the basic idea.

xbrokendownx

03/17/08, 12:40 PM

i love my SP and the fact that i have ARod, but to be honest i dont think i have a top 2 team

Drew Beringer

03/17/08, 12:44 PM

i love my SP and the fact that i have ARod, but to be honest i dont think i have a top 2 team
It's because you don't have 6 Brewers.

xbrokendownx

03/17/08, 12:50 PM

yea, thats probably it

Killadelphia

03/17/08, 12:56 PM

Because he was abnormally lights out at the start of the season, and then injuries hit again. Dude's been hurt every single year, and once he tweaks something, his numbers start falling. There are other super sabermetric reasons I think he'll regress, among those his xFIP, but that's the basic idea.

I mean any guy only 4 years in the league can drop, but he's had a great 4 year career thus far. "If healthy", the phrase we all love to use, he'll be good.

Scott Weber

03/17/08, 01:01 PM

I mean any guy only 4 years in the league can drop, but he's had a great 4 year career thus far. "If healthy", the phrase we all love to use, he'll be good.
http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/baseball/flb/story?page=MLB30qsd

That's a good article I read on it too.

Killadelphia

03/17/08, 01:07 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/baseball/flb/story?page=MLB30qsd

That's a good article I read on it too.

Yeah, now that I think about it, I forgot that I would bench him for every road start. Those #'s remind me of Myers. Throws a lot of pitches to get a lot of Ks.

Scott Weber

03/17/08, 01:10 PM

Yeah, now that I think about it, I forgot that I would bench him for every road start. Those #'s remind me of Myers. Throws a lot of pitches to get a lot of Ks.
One of the reasons Kazmir is at 100 pitches by the 6th inning in like 70% of his starts.

Killadelphia

03/17/08, 01:12 PM

Kazmir also walks a lot of people.

Broken Parachute

03/18/08, 10:35 PM

C - Jorge Posada
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Placido Polanco
3B - Adrian Beltre
SS - Derek Jeter
OF - Lance Berkman
OF - Torii Hunter
OF - Bobby Abreu
Util - Curtis Granderson
Bench - Johnny Damon
Bench - Dan Uggla
Bench - Orlando Cabrera
Bench - Ryan Garko

SP - Johan Santana
SP - John Lackey
RP - Chad Cordero
RP - Joakim Soria
P - James Sheilds
P - AJ Burnett
P - Jeff Francis
Bench - Derek Lowe

For an auto-draft team, I expected a lot worse. I'm still mad at myself though.

xbrokendownx

03/18/08, 11:33 PM

3 yankees haha

StandMyBrothers

03/18/08, 11:39 PM

haha totally depending on the youth
C-J.R. Towles
1B-Justin Morneau
2B-Howie Kendrick
3B-Alex Gordon
SS-Jose Reyes
IF-Evan Longoria
OF-Grady Sizymore
OF-Vladimir Guerrero
OF-Manny Ramirez
UTIL-Delmon Young
BN-Kosuke Fokudome
BN-Jay Bruce
BN-Cameron Maybin
BN-Joey Votto

P-Jon Papelbon
P-Yovani Gallardo
P-Phillip Hughes
BN-Clay Bucholz
BN-Adam Wainwright
BN-Ian Kennedy
BN-Andrew Miller

I think whoever gets demoted to the minor leagues out of my rookies, I'll pick up Daric Barton.

xbrokendownx

03/18/08, 11:42 PM

your pitching is not very good haha

StandMyBrothers

03/18/08, 11:47 PM

it's a points league haha...and I stacked pitching last year. And totally went over the maximum innings in the middle of September. that was sooo gay.

Scott Weber

03/19/08, 12:26 AM

if that league is any less than 16 people that team is fucking horrible, even if it's 16 that's still really, really bad.

Killadelphia

03/19/08, 11:54 AM

I'm in the 2nd year of a keeper today. My keepers are pujols, peavy, phillips, harang, and ichiro

So here is how it ended up:

C - Posada
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Brandon Phillips
3B - Chipper Jones
SS - Carlos Guillen
OF - Ichiro
OF - Kemp
OF - Fukudome
Util - Helton
Bench - Yunel Escobar, Evan Longoria, Pat Burrell, Willy Taveras

SP - Jake Peavy
SP - Aaron Harang
SP - Dan Haren
RP - Trevor Hoffman
RP - Brad Lidge
P - Joe Borowski
P - Yovani Gallardo
P - Hideki Okajima
Bench - Ubaldo Jimenez, Kerry Wood

Chris M.

03/19/08, 01:26 PM

if that league is any less than 16 people that team is fucking horrible, even if it's 16 that's still really, really bad.

I've got a team that's in a 20 team league that I'd say is better than that.

startBBtoday

03/21/08, 05:57 PM

Team Name: Wil Cordero's Phone
C Russell Martin
1B Travis Hafner
2B B.J. Upton
SS Miguel Tejada
3B Mike Lowell
OF Matt Holliday
OF Carl Crawford
OF Corey Hart
Util Howie Kendrick
Bench Alex Gordon
Bench Justin Upton
Bench Julio Lugo

SP Justin Verlander
SP Carlos Zambrano
RP Joakim Soria
RP Rafael Soriano
P Scott Kazmir
P Tim Lincecum
P Brett Myers
Bench Adam Wainwright
Bench Jon Lester

StandMyBrothers

03/21/08, 06:48 PM

if that league is any less than 16 people that team is fucking horrible, even if it's 16 that's still really, really bad.
it's not my really serious team, it's my rookie-soph, plus veterans team. The people I were drafting with were ridiculous, all decent starting pitching was gone by the 7th round. If this team does decent, I'll be freaking stoked.

bigmike

03/21/08, 06:50 PM

rookie-soph + veterans ... isn't that just a normal team? What other classification of player is there?

StandMyBrothers

03/21/08, 07:00 PM

rookie-soph + veterans ... isn't that just a normal team? What other classification of player is there?
after I drafted all those big name studs, I just started going for rookies and sophs. So ya its a regular team, but towards the end of my draft, all I wanted were rookies or sophomores.

bigmike

03/21/08, 07:01 PM

Oh, gotcha.

StandMyBrothers

03/21/08, 07:03 PM

Oh, gotcha.
I'd hope you might have approved a team like that ;-)

SgtSmegma

03/23/08, 11:01 PM

xbrokendownx

03/23/08, 11:03 PM

justin's keeper league draft tomm night at 11

Killadelphia

03/24/08, 06:53 PM

I just drafted a pretty nasty team.

C - Russel Martin
1B - Ryan Howard, James Loney
2B - Brandon Phillips, Aaron Hill
3B - Miguel Cabrera
SS - Miguel Tejada
OF - Manny Ramirez, Adam Dunn, Jeff Francoeur, Josh Hamilton, Pat Burrell, Kosuke Fukudome

SP - Brandon Webb, Cole Hamels, Dan Haren, Felix Hernandez, Brett Myers, Francisco Liriano
RP - K-Rod, Wagner, Jones, Lidge

Scott Weber

03/24/08, 06:57 PM

No way is that league more than 8 people, haha.

Killadelphia

03/24/08, 06:58 PM

it's only 8 people.

Broken Parachute

03/24/08, 06:59 PM

Weebs, I dropped Chad Cordero by accident in League 1. It won't let me pick him up because he has to clear waivers. I didn't mean to drop him. Can you throw him back on my team?

Edit: Wait, do you run the league Weebs or does LWO?

Scott Weber

03/24/08, 07:02 PM

Weebs, I dropped Chad Cordero by accident in League 1. It won't let me pick him up because he has to clear waivers. I didn't mean to drop him. Can you throw him back on my team?
Ask LeftWide, I'm not the commish in that league.

LeftWideOpen

03/24/08, 07:13 PM

avengedtbs

03/24/08, 07:13 PM

Team I drafted in Slade's league
C - Kenji Johjima
1B - Mark Teixeira, Adrian Gonzalez
2B - Robinson Cano, Kelly Johnson
3B - Ryan Braun
SS - Edgar Renteria
OF - Eric Byrnes, Nick Markakis, Hideki Matsui, Ken Griffey Jr
SP - Johan Santana, Erik Bedard, John Maine, Tim Hudson, Tim Lincecum, Tom Gorzelanny
RP - Takashi Saito, Matt Capps, Joakim Soria

Broken Parachute

03/24/08, 08:51 PM

i added cordero back and dropped wood. all setThanks. I had an extra roster spot so I wanted to pick up Wood but I clicked on Cordero's name to drop by mistake.

LeftWideOpen

03/24/08, 08:56 PM

Thanks. I had an extra roster spot so I wanted to pick up Wood but I clicked on Cordero's name to drop by mistake.

yah i just reversed what you did, so make sure to add wood again

Broken Parachute

03/24/08, 08:59 PM

yah i just reversed what you did, so make sure to add wood againGotta wait for Wood to clear waivers.

xbrokendownx

03/27/08, 06:35 PM

just had my draft w my friends...10 team league. i LOVE this team

C- Jorge Posada
1B- Justin Morneau
2B- Robinson Cano
3B- Ryan Braun
SS- Rafeal Furcal
OF- Matt Holliday
OF- Hideki Matsui
OF- Nick Swisher
UTIL- Kelly Johnson
UTIL- Gary Sheffield
Bench- Michael Cuddyer, Josh Willingham, Hank Blalock

SP- Brandon Webb
SP- Roy Oswalt
RP- Bobby Jenks
RP- Rafael Soriano
P- Joba Chamberlain
P- Aaron Harang
P- Adam Wainwright
Bench- Jeremy Guthrie, Ian Kennedy

Scott Weber

03/27/08, 08:36 PM

Not bad dude, strong draft. No real studs but not bad at any position. What round did you get Swisher?

xbrokendownx

03/27/08, 11:55 PM

swisher was 12th round

Scott Weber

03/28/08, 12:35 AM

swisher was 12th round
huuuuuuuuuge value for him there.

Killadelphia

03/28/08, 04:51 AM

Nick Swisher is Pat Burrell, but faster.

bigmike

03/28/08, 09:11 PM

Yeah, but I'd expect Swisher's numbers to really take off, especially power wise given his new home digs.

Killadelphia

03/28/08, 09:14 PM

Yeah, but I'd expect Swisher's numbers to really take off, especially power wise given his new home digs.

true, U.S. Cellular is far more homer friendly than McAffe

CubbyNick42

03/29/08, 12:10 PM

Nick Swisher is Pat Burrell, but faster.
I like Burrell to have a big year. He's got Contract Year Production Spike written all over him.

Killadelphia

03/29/08, 01:38 PM

I like Burrell to have a big year. He's got Contract Year Production Spike written all over him.

yes and no, his hr #s should rise a little because he is healthier this year and shouldn't miss time or have to be benched...also his rbi #s should rise with victorino, utley, and howard playing full seasons.

the more enticing thing about Burrell is when you look at his career numbers...

.260
.258
.282
.209
.257
.281
.258
.256
.280+? this year. He seems to have two average years followed by a great year. If the trend continues that'll be awesome. Another interesting thing to note is that while his walks were up, his strike outs also went down, so he definitely saw the ball better last year, but the contact he made wasn't the greatest. He is an high peaks and low valley guy so if you're in a h2h league, you really have to keep an eye on his production. His OBP has been over .380 the last 3 years and his slugging has remained over .500 as well. He's the 30/100 guy that no one will ever admit, think about because of those low, low valleys and his apt to be caught looking.

CubbyNick42

03/29/08, 01:49 PM

Just had my draft. Here is my team:

C-Jorge Posada
1B-Mark Teixera
2B-B.J. Upton, Luis Castillo
SS-Troy Tulowitzki
3B-Ryan Braun, Alex Gordon
OF-Magglio Ordonez, Raul Ibanez, Hideki Matsui, Delmon Young

SP- Fausto Carmona, John Lackey, Chein-Ming Wang, Roy Halliday, Barry Zito, Scott Kazmir
RP- Francisco Cordero, Joakim Soria, Hideki Okajima
Use Gordon as trade bait to upgrade your outfield. Ordonez is going to regress big time and I'm not a huge fan of any of those other three as big-time contributors.

SgtSmegma

03/29/08, 02:07 PM

Use Gordon as trade bait to upgrade your outfield. Ordonez is going to regress big time and I'm not a huge fan of any of those other three as big-time contributors.

I've been trying to do that, but nobody is biting. I think Ordonez will be even better than last year. They didn't lose anyone, and they added Miguel Cabrera. Teams won't be able to pitch around him at all.

I think Braun and Teixera will be monsters this year.

xbrokendownx

03/29/08, 02:12 PM

its pretttty hard to do better than .363, 28, 139 with 117 runs...

CubbyNick42

03/29/08, 02:14 PM

I've been trying to do that, but nobody is biting. I think Ordonez will be even better than last year. They didn't lose anyone, and they added Miguel Cabrera. Teams won't be able to pitch around him at all.
He's not going to touch .363 or 139 RBIs again, and he'll be lucky to get the 28 HRs. Don't forget he's 34 and his injury history isn't terribly reassuring. Something like .297-24-108 sounds about right.

I think Braun and Teixera will be monsters this year.
Teixeira especially. Don't underestimate the power of the contract year.

Killadelphia

03/29/08, 02:16 PM

He's not going to touch .363 or 139 RBIs again, and he'll be lucky to get the 28 HRs. Don't forget he's 34 and his injury history isn't terribly reassuring. Something like .297-24-108 sounds about right.

Teixeira especially. Don't underestimate the power of the contract year.

I think for every "contract year" that was good, there are two to three that are bad.

SgtSmegma

03/29/08, 02:19 PM

I think for every "contract year" that was good, there are two to three that are bad.

Yeah, but he absolutely raked after being traded to the Braves last year. No reason that he won't keep that going, plus the fact that its a contract year.

He's not going to touch .363 or 139 RBIs again, and he'll be lucky to get the 28 HRs. Don't forget he's 34 and his injury history isn't terribly reassuring. Something like .297-24-108 sounds about right.

I disagree. There's no way he'll bat under .300, and he'll have at least 130 RBI. Their line-up is so stacked.

Killadelphia

03/29/08, 02:25 PM

Yeah, but he absolutely raked after being traded to the Braves last year. No reason that he won't keep that going, plus the fact that its a contract year.

I disagree. There's no way he'll bat under .300, and he'll have at least 130 RBI. Their line-up is so stacked.

I don't disagree that Tex will have a good year, but I think he'll have it because he's good.

CubbyNick42

03/29/08, 02:40 PM

I think for every "contract year" that was good, there are two to three that are bad.
Maybe, but you could say the same for any player in any year of their contract. Given two equal players, one in their contract year and one not, I'll take the contract year guy every time.

Chris M.

03/29/08, 02:50 PM

Just drafted my team in a 12 team head-to-head league.

C - Russell Martin
1B - Travis Hafner
2B - Howie Kendrick
3B - David Wright
SS - Orlando Cabrera
OF - Nick Markakis
OF - Brad Hawpe
OF - Delmon Young
UTIL. - James Loney

SP - Jake Peavy
SP - Justin Verlander
RP - Trevor Hoffman
RP - Rafael Soriano
P - Tim Hudson
P - Dontrelle Willis
P - Tom Gorzelanny

BN - Kevin Youkilis
BN - Yunel Escobar
BN - Melky Cabrera

BN - Gil Meche
BN - Kerry Wood

I am extremely satisfied with this team. Only two starters had less than 85 RBI last year and both of them didn't play the whole year. Only position I'm iffy about is SS with Cabrera, but I still have Escobar to back him up.

What do you guys think?

CubbyNick42

03/29/08, 02:55 PM

Just drafted my team in a 10 team head-to-head league.

C - Russell Martin
1B - Travis Hafner
2B - Howie Kendrick
3B - David Wright
SS - Orlando Cabrera
OF - Nick Markakis
OF - Brad Hawpe
OF - Delmon Young
UTIL. - James Loney

SP - Jake Peavy
SP - Justin Verlander
RP - Trevor Hoffman
RP - Rafael Soriano
P - Tim Hudson
P - Dontrelle Willis
P - Tom Gorzelanny

BN - Kevin Youkilis
BN - Yunel Escobar
BN - Melky Cabrera

BN - Gil Meche
BN - Kerry Wood

I am extremely satisfied with this team. Only two starters had less than 85 RBI last year and both of them didn't play the whole year. Only position I'm iffy about is SS with Cabrera, but I still have Escobar to back him up.

What do you guys think?
I'm not a huge fan of picking SPs early, but solid other than that. Hafner will bounce back to form and Markakis seems set for a monster year. Count on Escobar eventually taking over for Kendrick at 2B - Howie's a hell of a hitter but an iffy fantasy guy since he only helps you in one category.

Chris M.

03/29/08, 03:02 PM

I'm not a huge fan of picking SPs early, but solid other than that. Hafner will bounce back to form and Markakis seems set for a monster year. Count on Escobar eventually taking over for Kendrick at 2B - Howie's a hell of a hitter but an iffy fantasy guy since he only helps you in one category.

Yeah, I think Markakis and Delmon Young will both mash this year, so my OF looks good. The pitchers I really drafted early were Peavy (third) and Verlander (sixth). I think I took Hoffman in the tenth, and the rest I got in late rounds.

I was actually really glad I finally got Escobar, though I probably picked him a round too early. He's been picked just before me in the two other leagues I've drafted in so far. I expect him to have a very good year, and the option that I can play him at 2B, SS or 3B in very nice.

CubbyNick42

03/29/08, 03:08 PM

The pitchers I really drafted early were Peavy (third) and Verlander (sixth).
That's decent value for Peavy. He's gone rounds one and two in a couple of my drafts.

Chris M.

03/29/08, 05:11 PM

It was actually the second round. I realized my mistake when I looked at the results for the league's draft.

bigmike

03/29/08, 10:17 PM

yes and no, his hr #s should rise a little because he is healthier this year and shouldn't miss time or have to be benched...also his rbi #s should rise with victorino, utley, and howard playing full seasons.

the more enticing thing about Burrell is when you look at his career numbers...

.260
.258
.282
.209
.257
.281
.258
.256
.280+? this year. He seems to have two average years followed by a great year. If the trend continues that'll be awesome. Another interesting thing to note is that while his walks were up, his strike outs also went down, so he definitely saw the ball better last year, but the contact he made wasn't the greatest. He is an high peaks and low valley guy so if you're in a h2h league, you really have to keep an eye on his production. His OBP has been over .380 the last 3 years and his slugging has remained over .500 as well. He's the 30/100 guy that no one will ever admit, think about because of those low, low valleys and his apt to be caught looking.
He's a 30/100 guy and flies under the radar. Despite his K's and low BA (which can hurt fantasy wise) he's actually a very solid player because of the discipline at the dish and his power abilities.
I've been trying to do that, but nobody is biting. I think Ordonez will be even better than last year. They didn't lose anyone, and they added Miguel Cabrera. Teams won't be able to pitch around him at all.

I think Braun and Teixera will be monsters this year.
Ordonez: .300/22-25 HR/115 RBI.

Let's remember that he's hitting behind Sheffield (Injury questions) and in front of Miggy. Also, vs. LHP's, Granderson will not be leading off as that will be Ivan Rodriguez (ughhhhh ... nothing like a .320 OBP at the top of your fucking order) thus lessening the RBI opportunities. Especially if Sheffield goes down and they don't move Guillen into the 3 hole. Honestly, if Guillen is hitting 3rd, I like Magg's chances of pounding in 120+ RBI, but Guillen most likely won't be (injuries can change everything) so I think he takes a big hit.

I mean, 139 RBI is phenomenal, especially for a 33 year old. A player at least 34 years of age and knocking in 139 runs or more has happened exactly 13 times in the history of the game.

SgtSmegma

03/30/08, 08:42 PM

CubbyNick42

03/30/08, 10:49 PM

I need trade advice. One of my fellow fantasy baseball GM's has offered me the following trade:

I give: Ryan Braun

I get: Carlos Zambrano, Mike Lowell and (Brian Roberts or Willy Taveras)

Would you do this?
Definitely Brian Roberts of the two, but still no. Zambrano and Lowell are both big-time candidates for regression.

Scott Weber

03/30/08, 11:04 PM

and Braun isn't?

bigmike

03/30/08, 11:06 PM

all three are candidates for regression and without know that dude's team's weaknesses/strengths, I say, gut feeling is don't do that trade.

Scott Weber

03/30/08, 11:11 PM

so i just had my main team draft today, in person draft with all my friends. Points league, 10 teams.

C R. Hernandez
1B Ortiz
2b Upton
3B D. Wright
SS Tejada
OF Markakis
OF A. Dunn
OF Swisher
Util A. Gordon
Util J. Francouer

SP A. Harang
SP Dice-K
SP Pedro Martinez
SP: Matt Cain
SP: Gallardo

RP: Mariano Rivera
RP Saito

other pitchers: Liriano, Lidge, B. Wilson

I'm happy with it. Need to make a few changes but my lineup is ridiculous.

SgtSmegma

03/31/08, 08:06 AM

Definitely Brian Roberts of the two, but still no. Zambrano and Lowell are both big-time candidates for regression.

That's what I was thinking, I'm having a tough time choosing though.

CubbyNick42

04/02/08, 09:56 AM

Big day if you're in an NL-only league: Johnny Cueto's been added to the Yahoo! database.

That's what I was thinking, I'm having a tough time choosing though.
Braun will regress, but he'll still be an All-Star. The other two won't.

ForlrnPerplxity

04/02/08, 06:09 PM

I cannot fucking believe I left Oliver Perez on the bench today in the free league. ughh

CubbyNick42

04/02/08, 06:14 PM

Clarett'sGreyGoose

04/02/08, 09:37 PM

Chris M.

04/03/08, 01:22 PM

start Escobar at SS, I think he's going to be really solid at the plate this year.

I probably will eventually. Scoring for this league doesn't start until Week 2 (no clue why), and I'll eventually end up trying to trade Cabrera for some more outfield or relief depth.

Also, a guy in one of my leagues just decided he was going to quit the league, so all his players were dropped and it was pretty much like a free-for-all as to who could get which player. I was able to snag Santana and Cano. Here's the team:

C - Brian McCann
1B - Mark Teixeira
2B - Chase Utley
3B - Aramis Ramirez
SS - Troy Tulowitzki
LF - Pat Burrell
CF - Chris Young
RF - Nick Markakis
OF - Matt Kemp
UTIL. - Edgar Renteria
UTIL. - Aaron Rowand

SP - Jake Peavy
SP - Johan Santana
SP - Chris Young
SP - James Shields
RP - Bobby Jenks
RP - Jason Isringhausen
RP - Jeremy Accardo
RP - C.J. Wilson
P - A.J. Burnett

BN - Josh Willingham
BN - Jeremy Hermida (waiver request pending for Jeff Francouer)
BN - Robinson Cano

BN - Matt Garza
BN - Joe Blanton

This team is fucking stacked.

xbrokendownx

04/03/08, 01:23 PM

hahaha that is messed up. the commish shouldve just had a mini draft to distribute all his players equally

Scott Weber

04/03/08, 02:14 PM

I agree, your commish dropped the ball on that one.

brianl7

04/03/08, 02:25 PM

So my dad and I do a league with some of his friends. It's a 12 team league with a $225 salary. Here's are team:

C- Kurt Suzuki $1
1B- Kevin Youkilis $17
2B- Mark Grudzielanek $4
3B- Jose Castillo $1
SS- Jimmy Rollins $34
OF- Matt Holiday $40
OF- Tori Hunter $23
OF- Xavier Nady $14

SP- Roy Halladay $25
SP- Johan Santana $36
SP- Chien-Ming Wang $17
SP- Jon Lester $5
RP- C.J. Wilson $1

RESERVES
SS- Erik Aybar $4
SP- Braden Looper $1
SP- Jason Marquis $1

I think we did pretty good. We have a lot of really good players, but no middle ground.

We're pretty close in our match-ups this week.

Scott Weber

04/03/08, 02:36 PM

You paid $14 for Xavier Nady? Wtf?

Chris M.

04/03/08, 03:18 PM

I agree, your commish dropped the ball on that one.

agreed. but I can't complain that much, I do have arguably the two best pitchers in baseball now, and some good trade bait in Cano.

So my dad and I do a league with some of his friends. It's a 12 team league with a $225 salary. Here's are team:

C- Kurt Suzuki $1
1B- Kevin Youkilis $17
2B- Mark Grudzielanek $4
3B- Jose Castillo $1
SS- Jimmy Rollins $34
OF- Matt Holiday $40
OF- Tori Hunter $23
OF- Xavier Nady $14

SP- Roy Halladay $25
SP- Johan Santana $36
SP- Chien-Ming Wang $17
SP- Jon Lester $5
RP- C.J. Wilson $1

RESERVES
SS- Erik Aybar $4
SP- Braden Looper $1
SP- Jason Marquis $1

I think we did pretty good. We have a lot of really good players, but no middle ground.

We're pretty close in our match-ups this week.

That team is awful.

Killadelphia

04/03/08, 03:34 PM

agreed. but I can't complain that much, I do have arguably the two best pitchers in baseball now, and some good trade bait in Cano.

That team is awful.

Roy Halladay is not a top 2 pitcher in fantasy baseball. Last year...he was 49th.

Chris M.

04/03/08, 03:43 PM

Roy Halladay is not a top 2 pitcher in fantasy baseball. Last year...he was 49th.

... I never said he was. I was talking about me having Santana and Peavy on the same team.

CubbyNick42

04/03/08, 03:46 PM

That team is awful.
Haha agreed. Aybar, Suzuki, Grudzy, Castillo...I have a really hard time believing there aren't any better players available.

Chris M.

04/03/08, 03:48 PM

Haha agreed. Aybar, Suzuki, Grudzy, Castillo...I have a really hard time believing there aren't any better players available.

Jason Marquis and Braden Looper aren't exactly fantasy studs either.

Scott Weber

04/03/08, 03:50 PM

... I never said he was. I was talking about me having Santana and Peavy on the same team.
Yikes. Did that really just happen immediately AFTER you posted that that other guys team was awful? Swing and a miss.

CubbyNick42

04/03/08, 03:50 PM

True. Both are available in my 10-team NL-only league.

CubbyNick42

04/03/08, 03:53 PM

Yikes. Did that really just happen immediately AFTER you posted that that other guys team was awful? Swing and a miss.
I think Justin's the one who screwed up...

Killadelphia

04/03/08, 04:09 PM

I think Justin's the one who screwed up...

Yeah, I did. I was reading was looking at the quoted roster that also had Santana on it. Sorry for the mix-up.

Scott Weber

04/03/08, 04:09 PM

I think Justin's the one who screwed up...
That's what I was saying.

CubbyNick42

04/03/08, 04:15 PM

Oh OK sorry. Seemed kind of ambiguous.

brianl7

04/03/08, 04:25 PM

It's not that there aren't better players out there, the salary cap makes it hard. Especially because we have those couple of high priced players. That's how most of the teams look in the league.

Scott Weber

04/03/08, 04:33 PM

It's not that there aren't better players out there, the salary cap makes it hard. Especially because we have those couple of high priced players. That's how most of the teams look in the league.
The salary cap shouldn't have anything to do with it. It's still 12 teams and there's still the same amount of players available. There's waiver wire fodder that are better options at some of your positions...I have no idea why anybody even paid for Nady at all.

CubbyNick42

04/03/08, 04:33 PM

How much are players on the waiver wire? How many teams are in the league? Is there a cap on the number of moves you can make?

Killadelphia

04/03/08, 04:37 PM

brianl7

04/03/08, 04:39 PM

The salary cap shouldn't have anything to do with it. It's still 12 teams and there's still the same amount of players available. There's waiver wire fodder that are better options at some of your positions...I have no idea why anybody even paid for Nady at all.
Nady was actually my dad's doing. Not really sure why he did it. Ha

xbrokendownx

04/03/08, 05:57 PM

shut up guys hes the #1 ranked fantasy player!!!1

Scott Weber

04/03/08, 06:00 PM

Nady was actually my dad's doing. Not really sure why he did it. Ha
i'm wondering who even drove the price up that high, haha.

brianl7

04/04/08, 12:19 AM

i'm wondering who even drove the price up that high, haha.
They get the salaries from a random fantasy baseball magazine. Not really sure why he's that much.

He had a good game tonight though.

CubbyNick42

04/04/08, 09:50 PM

I like Ankiel a lot as a sleeper in NL-only leagues. I just dealt Kouzmanoff and Nady for him and Pedro Feliz.

StandMyBrothers

04/04/08, 11:30 PM

why would you take Feliz?! Kouzmanoff>>>

Broken Parachute

04/04/08, 11:35 PM

Damn, that team is bad.

Broken Parachute

04/04/08, 11:37 PM

Dare I say that, in deep leagues, Jason Bartlett might be a decent pickup if you're in need of a SS?

bigmike

04/05/08, 12:11 AM

I like Feliz in that ball park in Philly.

Broken Parachute

04/05/08, 12:12 AM

Fuck me, I sat Shaun Marcum today in both of my AP leagues by mistake. I'm sick so I woke up really late today and didn't set my lineups.

Edit: Actually, I didn't start him in Justin's league but I did in the other league.

Broken Parachute

04/05/08, 12:37 AM

Youkwalks and I are having a pretty good matchup this week in league 1.

CubbyNick42

04/05/08, 01:04 PM

why would you take Feliz?! Kouzmanoff>>>
I like Feliz in that ball park in Philly.
I made the deal to get Ankiel. Feliz was a just a throw-in but I like him for the same reason bigmike does. With David Wright holding down 3B, the idea was to improve my Util spot, and IMO, Ankiel > Kouzmanoff.

Killadelphia

04/05/08, 01:16 PM

Sucks I forgot to start Wainwright in the Keeper

bigmike

04/05/08, 10:35 PM

I made the deal to get Ankiel. Feliz was a just a throw-in but I like him for the same reason bigmike does. With David Wright holding down 3B, the idea was to improve my Util spot, and IMO, Ankiel > Kouzmanoff.
Ankiel will kill your avg or obp, though. Good for the power numbers, but I'm not sure where he's currently hitting in the lineup so his RBI opportunities may be limited.

Scott Weber

04/06/08, 09:34 PM

Haha, I thought I proposed some...interesting...trades...LWO, your last 2 trade requests to me are sooooo hilariously bad, haha.

LeftWideOpen

04/06/08, 09:36 PM

we'll see who's lauging when Loney goes .325 30 HR 110 RBI!

haha

ForlrnPerplxity

04/06/08, 09:52 PM

Ankiel will kill your avg or obp, though. Good for the power numbers, but I'm not sure where he's currently hitting in the lineup so his RBI opportunities may be limited.
Ankiel could hit around .280, so it's not like he'll kill his avg department. However, if OBP counts, he won't post very good numbers there. He's currently hitting 2nd against lefties, but will probably hit mostly cleanup against righties if Duncan and Glaus keep faltering.

Scott Weber

04/06/08, 09:52 PM

1B that can do that are a dime a dozen, and I already have Pujols. Plus, I expect big things from Dice-K.

xbrokendownx

04/06/08, 09:57 PM

not saying he wont improve, but if last year was any indicator, Dice K will be an incredibly average pitcher

Scott Weber

04/06/08, 10:04 PM

not saying he wont improve, but if last year was any indicator, Dice K will be an incredibly average pitcher
uh...

I'm going to try not to be a dick here, but 15 wins and 200 strikeouts is very good in a pay league. last year he was top 20 for fantasy pitchers, and I expect him to improve. that is not incredibly average, that is at worst a #2 starter on any fantasy points team.

LeftWideOpen

04/06/08, 10:06 PM

1B that can do that are a dime a dozen, and I already have Pujols. Plus, I expect big things from Dice-K.

while i was clearly exaggerating, the only guys at 1B who accomplished anything near that last year were Pujols and Tex.

xbrokendownx

04/06/08, 10:08 PM

i know this is a fantasy thread, but i was talking about in general, not fantasy wise.

bigmike

04/06/08, 10:16 PM

Ankiel could hit around .280, so it's not like he'll kill his avg department. However, if OBP counts, he won't post very good numbers there. He's currently hitting 2nd against lefties, but will probably hit mostly cleanup against righties if Duncan and Glaus keep faltering.
Forgot to answer this but, I'd be shocked if he hit .280.
i know this is a fantasy thread, but i was talking about in general, not fantasy wise.
And in a non-fantasy sense 200+ K's, an okay WHIP, and from May 7th through August 27th (21 starts) he posted: 3.45 ERA, 135 K, 51 BB, and 1.26 WHIP and a opponent batter's vital of .240/.317/.408 (slugging is high but that's because of the HR and partially attributable to his home ballpark in which he struggled last year) as what is essentially a rookie in arguably the toughest division in baseball for pitchers.

He had 5 terrible starts to close out the year but I think that's more just wearing down due to the season being longer then any Japanese season he's pitched in before.

Scott Weber

04/06/08, 10:18 PM

while i was clearly exaggerating, the only guys at 1B who accomplished anything near that last year were Pujols and Tex.
Not true. This is a points league where you offered that trade. Average doesn't matter... 1b that can put up that kind of points include:

Fielder
Pena
Berkman
A. Gonzalez
Morneau
D. Lee
Ryan Howard
Carlos Guillen

(all of these guys put up more points than Tex last year)

Not to mention there are guys that put up similar numbers with slightly worse numbers...like Paul Konerko) So...you see why I say they're a dime a dozen, haha.

Broken Parachute

04/07/08, 04:21 AM

While I think his production is not even close to .325 and 30/110 (more like .275 and 20/65 on that Marlins team), I really like Mike Jacobs in deep leagues even as a backup.

SgtSmegma

04/08/08, 07:53 AM

You paid $14 for Xavier Nady? Wtf?

Hahahaha. I don't know why, but this made me laugh so hard.

Killadelphia

04/08/08, 08:00 AM

While I think his production is not even close to .325 and 30/110 (more like .275 and 20/65 on that Marlins team), I really like Mike Jacobs in deep leagues even as a backup.

He kills your OBP. He's a Pedro Feliz that just walks a little more. He's real, real low as a valuable first baseman.

Broken Parachute

04/08/08, 06:50 PM

I just finished a draft, 12 person league...

C - AJ Pierzynski
1B - Adrian Gonzalez
2B- Yunel Escobar
3B - Kevin Kouzmanoff
SS - Hanley Ramirez
OF - Carlos Lee
OF - Adam Dunn
OF - Vladamir Guerrero
Util - Bobby Abreu
Bench - JR Towles
Bench - Billy Butler
Bench - Nate McLouth

SP - Ben Sheets
SP - Rich Hill
RP - Joakim Soria
RP - Jeremy Accardo
P - Jered Weaver
P - Tim Hudson
P - Hiroki Kuroda
Bench - Zack Greinke
Bench - Joe Saunders

I drafted Adam Dunn by accident. I don't really like him (fantasy wise). He's going to produce, but he strikes out wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too much.