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punkprincess69
12/15/03, 12:33 AM
Okay I know that Brand New and Taking Back Sunday had some beef with eachother but I don't really understand the whole thing or why or with who? It's all very confusing to me so if someone who is knowledgeable on the subject could please start from the beginning and just lay it all out, I would really appreciate it. Thanks.

ReFuSeD!
12/15/03, 12:51 AM
They are arguing over which one of them invented playing shitty music. Each band claims they started the movement, but the feud will never rest until the public knows for sure.

yeAA
12/15/03, 02:43 AM
go read the december issue of Alternative Press... it has brand new on the cover...................

mOvielife99
12/15/03, 05:28 AM
Originally posted by ReFuSeD!
They are arguing over which one of them invented playing shitty music. Each band claims they started the movement, but the feud will never rest until the public knows for sure. not exactly

em0
12/15/03, 06:20 AM
jesse kissed adam and adam got mad.

itsallcalypso
12/15/03, 08:07 AM
John Nolan hooked up with Jesse's girlfriend. They got mad at each other, wrote songs about it, and then became friends again.

Highway Donkey
12/15/03, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by punkprincess69
Okay I know that Brand New and Taking Back Sunday had some beef with eachother but I don't really understand the whole thing or why or with who? It's all very confusing to me so if someone who is knowledgeable on the subject could please start from the beginning and just lay it all out, I would really appreciate it. Thanks.

Leave.

13th hour
12/15/03, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by em0
jesse kissed adam and adam got mad.

I thought that John kissed Jesse, while he was dating Adam! and then Vinnie comes into the picture somewhere. Drama!!

mirtizzle
12/15/03, 09:51 AM
it's all about me... yeah.. that's it.

MaybeOneDay
12/15/03, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by ReFuSeD!
They are arguing over which one of them invented playing shitty music. Each band claims they started the movement, but the feud will never rest until the public knows for sure.

Hah, that made me laugh.

punkprincess69
12/15/03, 10:36 AM
I said I want some knowledgeable people, not just some idiots who think they're funny.

takingbackrufio
12/15/03, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by punkprincess69
Okay I know that Brand New and Taking Back Sunday had some beef with eachother but I don't really understand the whole thing or why or with who? It's all very confusing to me so if someone who is knowledgeable on the subject could please start from the beginning and just lay it all out, I would really appreciate it. Thanks. Very complicated story, I don't even really know what exactly happened, just something between Jesse and John, then Brand New came up with 'Seventy Times Seven' in light of the story, and Taking Back Sunday came back with 'There's No I in Team', which, got song of the year on ap.net. Just a healthy reminder.

punkprincess69
12/15/03, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by yeAA
go read the december issue of Alternative Press... it has brand new on the cover...................

I've read this but I don't understand why John Nolan left TBS and why he and Jesse are okay but he hates the rest of the band. Is anyone for sure on the details of who stole the girl from who? Because I don't understand who this girl is that picked John over Jesse, is she crazy?

takingbackrufio
12/15/03, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by punkprincess69
I've read this but I don't understand why John Nolan left TBS and why he and Jesse are okay but he hates the rest of the band. Is anyone for sure on the details of who stole the girl from who? Because I don't understand who this girl is that picked John over Jesse, is she crazy? John left the band beacuse of numerous rumours ... the only one that has been heard of from the band's mouths are that he left because of musical differences, he didn't prefer the layout they were using for the songs. The rumour that almost everybody believes to be true is that Adam cheated on Michelle Nolan, back-up singer of Straylight Run and brother of John Nolan. Where it stands now? I'm not sure. Brand New and Straylight Run have gone on tour and are going on tour again (Feb/Mar I believe), so everything is good between them. Taking Back Sunday, a whole different story.

piebaldkid42
12/15/03, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by punkprincess69
I said I want some knowledgeable people, not just some idiots who think they're funny.
then youre at the totally wrong message board

angie710
12/15/03, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by piebaldkid42
then youre at the totally wrong message board

I was going to say something like that in response...

I actually have no idea what the beef is, nor do I give a fat rats ass about these people's lives and their emotional disputes...Just give me the fucking music....

atownplaya
12/15/03, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by angie710
I actually have no idea what the beef is, nor do I give a fat rats ass about these people's lives and their emotional disputes...Just give me the fucking music....

piebaldkid42
12/15/03, 02:25 PM
lovin' the KJ props yo:grin:

takingbackrufio
12/15/03, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by punkprincess69
I said I want some knowledgeable people, not just some idiots who think they're funny. No, beacause they are funny.
then youre at the totally wrong message board Good call.

yeAA
12/15/03, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by punkprincess69
I've read this but I don't understand why John Nolan left TBS and why he and Jesse are okay but he hates the rest of the band. Is anyone for sure on the details of who stole the girl from who? Because I don't understand who this girl is that picked John over Jesse, is she crazy?

yea supposedly i guess john got bored with how they were writing songs and i guess he got pretty pissed off at adam for cheating on his sister so it all makes sense to me. yea on the other thing supposedly jesse's gf cheated on him with john and jesse and john were best friends. john and jesse are equally talented and goodlooking so....... i dont know

em0
12/16/03, 05:18 AM
the only thing i have to say about john/sean leaving straylight is read their lyrics. john even said that a lot of their lyrics were based on the taking back sundayexperience.

so we bottled and shelved all our regrets
let them ferment and came back to our senses
drove back home and slept a few days
woke up and laughed at how stupid we used to be
all these lines fall short of what i had in mind
a failed attempt to capsulize a feeling
so i just try fail and try and try again
someday i swear i'm going to get it
because i'm convinced that giving in is the worst thing there is
we'll get over it
sad, strong, safe and sober
we'll move forward
and know where we went wrong
but "you can't go home again."
-Mistakes We Knew We Were Making

as young as i was, i felt older back then
more disciplined, stronger and certain
but i was scared to death of eternity
i was saved by grace
but destroyed by naivety
and i lied to myself
and said it was for the best
so now faith is replaced with a logic so cold
i've disregarded what i was
now that i'm older
and i know much more than i did back then
but the more i learn
the more i can't understand
and i've become content with this life that i lead
where i drink to much and don't believe in much of anything
and i lie to myself
and say "it's for the best."
-It's for the Best

i'm tired
cynical and broken, but wiser
heavy with a sense of resentment
but i used to be so much different
i used to have so much faith
when i started
you knew that i always meant it
i knew i could make a difference
i struggled to be heard
and then finally, one day people started listening
and i knew it
but as soon as it began it was ruined
a slow descent from unique to routine
over and over
"just do it again and this time with feeling"
the spotlight
the focus on the friends and the feelings
that made those stupid songs all worth singing
and don't you say a word
unless you're pretty sure that you want it analyzed
so we drove
for what seemed like days
over roads
and four lane highways
we said all we had to say
and i realized in time that it didn't mean anything

never
not ever again...
not like that
"it's only a matter of time"
-A Slow Descent

what i get out of it is that TBS was the same night after night and it just got old.

worldstheory
12/17/03, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by takingbackrufio
Very complicated story, I don't even really know what exactly happened, just something between Jesse and John, then Brand New came up with 'Seventy Times Seven' in light of the story, and Taking Back Sunday came back with 'There's No I in Team', which, got song of the year on ap.net. Just a healthy reminder. Is that why Taking Back Sunday sings part of the chorus from Seventy Times Seven in There's No I In Team?

13th hour
12/17/03, 05:28 PM
its the other way around.

worldstheory
12/17/03, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by 13th hour
its the other way around. Is that why Brand New sings part of the chorus from There's No I In Team in Seventy Times Seven?

takingbackrufio
12/18/03, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by 13th hour
its the other way around. I don't think so actually. Because in my cd-booklet, in the Thanks section it says 'Thanks to Brand New for a part of the lyrics in "There's No I in Team"' or something along those lines. I'm at school and don't have my booklet handy, but I remember reading that. But yest, that's why the two songs have the same lines, is because of the story or whatever. Meh, I don't care, both bands are likable. TBS = unbelievable, Brand New = enjoyable. IMO.

13th hour
12/18/03, 02:10 PM
theyre both good bands, lets just leave it at that.

takingbackrufio
12/18/03, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by 13th hour
theyre both good bands, lets just leave it at that. Amen.

worldstheory
12/18/03, 04:46 PM
Yes, both bands are highly enjoyable, but I don't find them to be as amazing as most of the people on this forum glorify them to be.