2008 NHL Entry Draft

[Crocodile Logic]

Top 5 Draft Positions:
1. Tampa Bay Lightning
2. Los Angeles Kings
3. Atlanta Thrashers
4. St. Louis Blues
5. NY Islanders


Top 30 Prospects as of 3/20/2008, ranked by International Scouting Services

1 Stamkos, Steven C 2/7/90 R 5.11.7 176 Sarnia OHL
2 Filatov, Nikita LW 5/25/90 R 6.00 165 Moscow CSKA-2 RusDi
3 Doughty, Drew RD 12/8/89 R 6.00.5 219 Guelph OHL
4 Hodgson, Cody C 2/18/90 R 5.11.5 185 Brampton OHL
5 Pietrangelo, Alex RD 1/18/90 R 6.03.2 206 Niagara OHL
6 Schenn, Luke RD 11/2/89 R 6.02.2 216 Kelowna WHL
7 Bogosian, Zach RD 7/15/90 R 6.02 197 Peterborough OHL
8 Wilson, Colin (Fr.) C 10/20/89 L 6.01 215 Boston Univ H.E.
9 Boedker, Mikkel LW 12/16/89 L 5.11.2 195 Kitchener OHL
10 Beach, Kyle C 1/13/90 R 6.03 203 Everett WHL
11 Bailey, Joshua C 10/2/89 L 6.00.5 188 Windsor OHL
12 Boychuk, Zac C 10/4/89 L 5.09.5 175 Lethbridge WHL
13 Sbisa, Luca LD 1/30/90 L 6.01.7 190 Lethbridge WHL
14 Tedenby, Mattias LW 2/21/90 L 5.09 165 HV71 SweJE
15 Myers, Tyler RD 2/1/90 R 6.07.2 204 Kelowna WHL
16 Nemisz, Greg C 6/5/90 R 6.03 197 Windsor OHL
17 Teubert, Colten RD 3/8/90 R 6.03.5 185 Regina WHL
18 Grachev, Evgeny C 2/21/90 R 6.03 202 Yaroslavl RusDi
19 Carlson, John RD 1/10/90 R 6.02 212 Indiana USHL
20 Eberle, Jordan C 5/15/90 R 5.10 174 Regina WHL
21 Del Zotto, Michael LD 6/24/90 L 5.11.7 211 Oshawa OHL
22 Robak, Colby LD 4/24/90 L 6.03 194 Brandon WHL
23 Wahl, Mitch C 1/22/90 R 5.11.5 175 Spokane WHL
24 Toews, David LW 6/7/90 R 5.10 175 Shattuck-St. MN-HS
25 Ennis, Tyler C 10/6/89 L 5.08.7 146 Medicine Hat WHL
26 Colborne, Joe LW 1/30/90 L 6.05 190 Camrose AJHL
27 Ness, Aaron LD 5/18/90 L 5.10 162 Roseau MN-HS
28 Voinov, Vyacheslav LD 1/15/90 R 6.00 190 Chelyabinsk Traktor RusDi
29 Stone, Michael RD 6/7/90 R 6.02.5 200 Calgary WHL
30 Gardiner, Jake LD 7/4/90 L 6.02 170 Minnetonka MN-HS

[StuGrimson]

I love that 7 out of the top 10 could come from the OHL

[we are cured]

man tyler ennis really took a plunge from the jan or february ratings...i was high on him last season, haven't got to see him much this year.

[Crocodile Logic]

i doubt filatov will go that high. although he's got talent, it's not even known yet if he'll come to america. most people seem to think that it'll be some combo of doughty, bogosian, and pietrangelo to be taken after stamkos.

[StuGrimson]

Some places list Ennis as little as 135 pounds so Im not surpirsed he is falling a lot. Dude sure is fast though.

[we are cured]

i could see atlanta going for filatov, especially considering kovalchuk is their franchise player and a fellow russian. LA will probably choose doughty or bogosian.

[StuGrimson]

When Im bored at work tomorrow I may throw together a list of who I think will go where. The big thing this year is teams deciding whether they want a defensemen or if they really need a forward. Filatov could always pull a Cherapanov though and fall about 10 places or more.

[!?!]

Stamkos would make a very nice addition to the blues

[Crocodile Logic]

Stamkos would make a very nice addition to the blues
he'd make a nice addition to most teams. sorry to burst your bubble, but there's no way he falls to #4.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

I would LOVE Luke Schenn, but at #13 I'm beginning to accept either Tyler Myers or Colten Teubert.

Or possibly the best available LW at the time since the organizational depth chart is as follows:
Vanek, Paille, MacArthur, Gragnani (Kennedy at MSU, Gogulla in Germany), Dylan Hunter

[bigmike]

I would LOVE Luke Schenn, but at #13 I'm beginning to accept either Tyler Myers or Colten Teubert.

Or possibly the best available LW at the time since the organizational depth chart is as follows:
Vanek, Paille, MacArthur, Gragnani (Kennedy at MSU, Gogulla in Germany), Dylan Hunter
I really think Tim Kennedy will sign a contract before next year and leave. Abdelkader, his linemate signed with the Wings, Michael Ratchuck (sophomore) signed with Phoenix and their captain Bryan Lerg finished his career and signed with the Oilers.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

still there is a real lack of depth at LW in the Sabres organization.

Vanek Paille and MacArthur are the only guys that could play a full NHL season next year and even Mac is a stretch. So that would leave Gragnani, a converted D-man who SUCKS at D and would be a 2nd year pro next year, Kennedy (1st), Hunter (3rd?) and Gogulla (1st) in the AHL.

Yikes.

Meanwhile at RW....

Pominville, Kotalik, Afinogenov, Stafford, Bernier, Kaleta are all in the NHL. Mark Mancari is the lone guy in the AHL. Only other prospect of note at RW is another Spartan, Corey Tropp.

[bigmike]

still there is a real lack of depth at LW in the Sabres organization.

Vanek Paille and MacArthur are the only guys that could play a full NHL season next year and even Mac is a stretch. So that would leave Gragnani, a converted D-man who SUCKS at D and would be a 2nd year pro next year, Kennedy (1st), Hunter (3rd?) and Gogulla (1st) in the AHL.

Yikes.

Meanwhile at RW....

Pominville, Kotalik, Afinogenov, Stafford, Bernier, Kaleta are all in the NHL. Mark Mancari is the lone guy in the AHL. Only other prospect of note at RW is another Spartan, Corey Tropp.
Oh yeah, I agree. Is Kennedy profiling as a LW? I always notice him at Center at MSU.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

I actually think the lack of depth, prospect-wise on the wings can be shown simply by looking at the HockeysFuture Sabres page. Both LW and RW are listed as 1-3, while center is 1-8 and D is 1-16

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

He's listed as a LW but then again they have MacArthur as a C and he's never played anything but LW in the NHL. Can't vouch for the AHL, the Americans are unwatchable they're so bad.

[bigmike]

Yeah, either way, I like Tim Kennedy. Not sure how he'll translate to the next level as I don't think he's a dynamic skater but good enough to skate in the NHL. Good vision though.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Yeah, either way, I like Tim Kennedy. Not sure how he'll translate to the next level as I don't think he's a dynamic skater but good enough to skate in the NHL. Good vision though.
it's always nice to see the hometown kids make it, especially when it's IN that town, so for that reason alone I would like to see Kennedy suit up for the Sabres (see: Pat Kaleta for another example)

Random Kaleta story: My girlfriend went to the Ottawa brawl game last year (his first game) and sat behind his parents. They were amazed that she knew about him before he had even played. He got called up the day before and I was telling her how much she would love him, since she's a huge fan of big hits and fights.

[bigmike]

it's always nice to see the hometown kids make it, especially when it's IN that town, so for that reason alone I would like to see Kennedy suit up for the Sabres (see: Pat Kaleta for another example)

Random Kaleta story: My girlfriend went to the Ottawa brawl game last year (his first game) and sat behind his parents. They were amazed that she knew about him before he had even played. He got called up the day before and I was telling her how much she would love him, since she's a huge fan of big hits and fights.
Haha, that is awesome. That is also part of the reason I like seeing Abdelkader suit up for the Red Wings since he's from like 90 mins north of me. And I definitely hope Kennedy has a good career. He's got some very good hands I think he could be a very effective 2nd liner in the NHL because of his abilities in both offensive and defensive zones.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Haha, that is awesome. That is also part of the reason I like seeing Abdelkader suit up for the Red Wings since he's from like 90 mins north of me. And I definitely hope Kennedy has a good career. He's got some very good hands I think he could be a very effective 2nd liner in the NHL because of his abilities in both offensive and defensive zones.
there's like 3 Buffalo kids at MSU right now which is insane. Kennedy, Ratchuk and Mueller.

Well, technically one now since Ratchuk signed with the Flyers and Mueller was a senior. But you know.

[bigmike]

there's like 3 Buffalo kids at MSU right now which is insane. Kennedy, Ratchuk and Mueller.

Well, technically one now since Ratchuk signed with the Flyers and Mueller was a senior. But you know.
Yeah. I hope for MSU's sake Kennedy stays with some of the losses we've had with Abdelkader/Lerg/Ratchuk leaving and whatnot.

I think after NHL Playoffs I'm going to make a concerted effort to follow the college hockey recruiting more diligently.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Yeah. I hope for MSU's sake Kennedy stays with some of the losses we've had with Abdelkader/Lerg/Ratchuk leaving and whatnot.

I think after NHL Playoffs I'm going to make a concerted effort to follow the college hockey recruiting more diligently.
I think Kennedy's status really hinges on what the Sabres decide to do as far as an AHL affiliate. Their LONG relationship with Rochester is over. There's been some minor rumors that Anaheim may want a team closer to home than Portland and Buffalo could team up with the Pirates. Or they could scatter their prospects across the AHL and either form their own affiliate down the road or wait for some other team to switch affiliates.

IF they have their own team though, I think you'll see Kennedy in the AHL, as the Sabres just don't have enough prospects signed to fill an entire team.

Like I said, they would have Hunter at LW, Mancari at RW and Marek Zagrapan at C if they didn't sign ANY of their prospects next season....so obviously fielding a full squad would require them to sign guys like Kennedy, Gerbe, Gogulla, Ben Breault, JS Allard..etc.

[bigmike]

Oh wow, I didn't know that about the affiliation with Rochester being done.

[Crocodile Logic]

Oh wow, I didn't know that about the affiliation with Rochester being done.
yeah, the whole amerks organization is pretty much in shambles right now. if you really care about it, and want to know more, there's a bunch of stuff scattered throughout this thread: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=425609

[Crocodile Logic]

it'll be interesting to see who the sabres pick in that 13th spot. they desperately need to improve their blue line, but in that spot it's hard not to go with the best player available.

however, as was pointed out on the HF boards, the 13th spot is a crap-shoot when it comes to drafting NHLers. right now, zagrapan (2005) is on the verge of being a total bust for the sabres.

Thirteenth overall selections:

2007 - Lars Eller, St. Louis
2006 - Juri Tlusty, Toronto
2005 - Marek Zagrapan, Buffalo
2004 - Drew Stafford, Buffalo
2003 - Dustin Brown, LA
2002 - Alex Semin, Washington
2001 - Ales Hemsky, Edmonton
2000 - Ron Hainsey, Montreal
1999 - Jani Rita, Edmonton
1998 - Michael Heinrich, Edmonton
1997 - Daniel Cleary, Chicago
1996 - Derek Morris, Calgary

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

see that's the thing. Looking at that list, there's like 2 guys I wouldn't take. Zagrapan and Rita.

edit: Make it 3. Who the hell is Michael Heinrich?

[Crocodile Logic]

yeah, most of the guys on that list are serviceable roster players, but only 3 really jump out as real difference-makers at the nhl level: brown, hemsky, and semin.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

yeah, most of the guys on that list are serviceable roster players, but only 3 really jump out as real difference-makers at the nhl level: brown, hemsky, and semin.
Honestly, what we need is serviceable players. Roy and Pominville stepped up and replaced most of the scoring void created by Drury and Briere. Vanek will score goals, and he'll be here for 6 more years.

The secondary scoring is where the team really fell off this year. Last year there were 7 skaters with 50+ points. Campbell had 48. The only player to play more than 20 games and not score 10 points was Andrew Peters.

This year, Roy, Pominville and Vanek were the only ones over 50. Hecht had 49, and Campbell had 43 in 62 games. SEVEN players skated 40 games or more and had less than 10 points (Paetsch, Kalinin, Ryan, Pratt, Sekera, Kaleta, Peters)

[Crocodile Logic]

i don't really think buffalo's problem is scoring. they were near the top of the league in GF. their real problem is on defense, and they need to sort that out, whether it be through the draft or through a trade or free-agency. their top-line "lock-down" pairing in lydman-tallinder left a lot to be desired this season.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

i don't really think buffalo's problem is scoring. they were near the top of the league in GF. their real problem is on defense, and they need to sort that out, whether it be through the draft or through a trade or free-agency. their top-line "lock-down" pairing in lydman-tallinder left a lot to be desired this season.
The defense is horrible but it would be tough to really fix it in just one season. I think Spacek, Lydman, Weber and Sekera should be 4. Pratt should be the 7th, and someone else should be brought in via trade (dump Afinogenov) and someone via free agency.

Spacek/Sekera
trade/Lydman
Weber/FA (Montador is realistic, Streit is a dream)
Pratt

[LastPlaceRocks]

Something that struck me while glancing at the list - either David Toews' stock went up a lot since January, or there is a huge discrepancy between ISS and CSS since he was 71st in the CSS rankings.

Also glad to see Aaron Ness' stock continue to increase.

[StuGrimson]

see that's the thing. Looking at that list, there's like 2 guys I wouldn't take. Zagrapan and Rita.

edit: Make it 3. Who the hell is Michael Heinrich?

The Barrie Colts were a really good team in the mid to late 90's and I along with everyone else thought they had some potential superstars. Teams jumped all over drafting their players in the first round, ALexander Volchkov went 4th overall, Michael Henrich went 13th overall and Daniel Tkachuk went number 6, Dennis Shvidki went 12th, Sheldon Keefe went 47th, Brian Finley went 6th. Something must have been fucked up there because no team should have that many good players become busts when they go pro. The team did produce Jan Bulis and Martin Skoula at the same time but those guys arent exactly stars.

[tambo41187]

The defense is horrible but it would be tough to really fix it in just one season. I think Spacek, Lydman, Weber and Sekera should be 4. Pratt should be the 7th, and someone else should be brought in via trade (dump Afinogenov) and someone via free agency.

Spacek/Sekera
trade/Lydman
Weber/FA (Montador is realistic, Streit is a dream)
Pratt

Depending on what he does in the playoffs ( there is no show case like the playoffs, look at Peca for example) Streit is going to get a pretty big contract, and its not the Sabres way to spend big money on free agency. I think they need to look for some cheaper 3-5 guys. Liles comes to mind, and i know we have discusses a bunch of others.

An 8 million dollar offer sheet to Shea Weber would be fun though.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Depending on what he does in the playoffs ( there is no show case like the playoffs, look at Peca for example) Streit is going to get a pretty big contract, and its not the Sabres way to spend big money on free agency. I think they need to look for some cheaper 3-5 guys. Liles comes to mind, and i know we have discusses a bunch of others.

An 8 million dollar offer sheet to Shea Weber would be fun though.
I would like Liles too. I think it would be more incentive for Miller to stay in town.

Spacek/Lydman?
Sekera/Weber
Liles/Tallinder (or trade)
Pratt/Paetsch

...meh.

[tambo41187]

The only problem is you know Darcy and gang want to stick Paetsch back in the starting 6 because its cheap and easy even though its pretty clear he is not good enough. If they resign Kalinan i quit the team.

That's an ok defense right there, not amazing but better than most of this year. Going to be some growing pains with Sekera and Weber but they proved they are full time players during the last stretch of th season.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

The only problem is you know Darcy and gang want to stick Paetsch back in the starting 6 because its cheap and easy even though its pretty clear he is not good enough. If they resign Kalinan i quit the team.

That's an ok defense right there, not amazing but better than most of this year. Going to be some growing pains with Sekera and Weber but they proved they are full time players during the last stretch of th season.
I would much rather deal with watching the growing pains of a 3rd (Sekera) and 2nd (Weber) year pro than the apathy of Kalinin and the lack of ability of Paetsch

[Crocodile Logic]

buffalo should just let kalinin walk this off-season.

[tambo41187]

god i hope so

[Chris M.]

The Q is weak for prospects this year. I only skimmed over that list, but I don't think I saw one player from the league on there.

see that's the thing. Looking at that list, there's like 2 guys I wouldn't take. Zagrapan and Rita.

edit: Make it 3. Who the hell is Michael Heinrich?

He was drafted by Edmonton and played like 10 total games in the NHL.

[!?!]

he'd make a nice addition to most teams. sorry to burst your bubble, but there's no way he falls to #4.

i no :(

[ESundy36]

I'm excited in 5 or 10 years to look back at the next 2 draft classes and see who pans out and who does not after all the hyping of how deep the next 2 draft classes will be. This year looks pretty good and next year looks as good if not better.

[StuGrimson]

I booed and heckled Stamkos all las night but was silently in awe of his talents. He still had 0 points and was a -3 but looked good. You can just tell how much better he is than every other kid on the ice.

[Crocodile Logic]

less than 2 weeks to the draft.

updated prospect rankings from ISS, as of 5/21:

1 Stamkos, Steven C 2/7/90 R 5.11.7 176 Sarnia OHL
2 Filatov, Nikita LW 5/25/90 R 6.00 172 Moscow CSKA-2 RusDi
3 Bogosian, Zach RD 7/15/90 R 6.02 197 Peterborough OHL
4 Doughty, Drew RD 12/8/89 R 6.00.5 219 Guelph OHL
5 Pietrangelo, Alex RD 1/18/90 R 6.03.2 206 Niagara OHL
6 Schenn, Luke RD 11/2/89 R 6.02.2 216 Kelowna WHL
7 Boedker, Mikkel LW 12/16/89 L 5.11.2 195 Kitchener OHL
8 Wilson, Colin (Fr.) C 10/20/89 L 6.01 215 Boston Univ H.E.
9 Hodgson, Cody C 2/18/90 R 5.11.5 185 Brampton OHL
10 Sbisa, Luca LD 1/30/90 L 6.01.7 190 Lethbridge WHL
11 Bailey, Joshua C 10/2/89 L 6.00.5 188 Windsor OHL
12 Boychuk, Zac C 10/4/89 L 5.09.5 175 Lethbridge WHL
13 Beach, Kyle C 1/13/90 R 6.03 203 Everett WHL
14 Tedenby, Mattias LW 2/21/90 L 5.10 176 HV71 SweJE
15 Myers, Tyler RD 2/1/90 R 6.07.2 204 Kelowna WHL
16 Petrov, Kirill LW 4/13/90 L 6.03 198 Kazan RusDi
17 Teubert, Colten RD 3/8/90 R 6.03.5 185 Regina WHL
18 Del Zotto, Michael LD 6/24/90 L 5.11.7 211 Oshawa OHL
19 Robak, Colby LD 4/24/90 L 6.03 194 Brandon WHL
20 Dalpe, Zac C 11/1/89 R 6.00.5 170 Penticton BCHL
21 Carlson, John RD 1/10/90 R 6.02.2 212 Indiana USHL
22 Karlsson, Erik RD 5/31/90 R 5.11 165 V. Frolunda SweJE
23 Colborne, Joe LW 1/30/90 L 6.05 190 Camrose AJHL
24 Grachev, Evgeny C 2/21/90 R 6.03 202 Yaroslavl RusDi
25 Deschamps, Nicolas C 1/6/90 L 6.00.2 173 Chicoutimi QMJHL
26 Nemisz, Greg C 6/5/90 R 6.03 197 Windsor OHL
27 Toews, David LW 6/7/90 R 5.10 175 Shattuck-St. MN-HS
28 Ness, Aaron LD 5/18/90 L 5.09.5 157 Roseau MN-HS
29 Gardiner, Jake LD 7/4/90 L 6.00.5 173 Minnetonka MN-HS
30 Eberle, Jordan C 5/15/90 R 5.10 174 Regina WHL

Bogosian's stock (deservedly) continues to rise.

[StuGrimson]

I think Pieterangelo is overrated. I would also take Doughty over Bogosian just because I think he has better defensive skills but Bogosians shot and physicality more than make up for any shortcomings.

[ESundy36]

I heard Wilson wowed some of the scouts at the combine, I'm interested to see who takes him.

[Crocodile Logic]

I heard Wilson wowed some of the scouts at the combine, I'm interested to see who takes him.
yeah, he was one of the stars at this year's combine.

[StuGrimson]

Ya I heard the same thing and figured that could help him jump a few spots, Boedker did not go to the combine but was assured by pretty much all the scouts that it wouldnt hurt his position in the draft. I think Wilson could jump into the top 5 and Filatov and Pieterangelo drop out of the top 5.

[Crocodile Logic]

I think Pieterangelo is overrated. I would also take Doughty over Bogosian just because I think he has better defensive skills but Bogosians shot and physicality more than make up for any shortcomings.
the bout with mono near the end of the season didn't help his cause, either.

[LastPlaceRocks]

I heard Wilson wowed some of the scouts at the combine, I'm interested to see who takes him.
I'm going with Nashville at nine - they need a center like Wilson and would be a great fit. However, it wouldn't surprise me if he was off the board by then.

Also, I love how there are major discrepancies in player rankings between ISS and CSS.

[StuGrimson]

I think CSS had Tyler Myers as high as 8 recently and ISS has him at 15. I think you could probably throw names in a hat if it came to picking Boychuk, Hodgson or Bailey. All very skilled, all works in progress.

[deadstar]

Yay for the Pens not picking until the 3rd round.

[StuGrimson]

The Steve Stamkos cheerleaders

http://seenstamkos.com/seenstamkos/photos/sd-02.jpg

[Crocodile Logic]

hockey cheerleaders always make me chuckle.

[LastPlaceRocks]

If they can skate, then I'm set.

[emkvetwin]

i really think bogosian fits our needs more... we need a more physical presence at D. plus, bogosian had an unbelievable combine. but either doughty or bogosian would be just fine; plus, doughty apparently really wants to play in LA, and how many players can you say that about?

also, don't be surprised if we try to trade up and grab schenn or myers.

(things are turning around for us... bye bye crow)

[StuGrimson]

LA has a shitload of picks this year so I imagine they do something. I could see some first round shuffeling just because there is a concensus #1 and then a 2a and 2b player. After that its pretty much a grab bag, its a good year but there are a lot of interchangeable players especially for teams that dont see defense as that big of a need right now.

[tambo41187]

They have 16 picks

wow

[StuGrimson]

I think they have 15, I went through the draft order last night to see who has how many and I counted 15. Though Ive heard 16 too. I think they have 8 in the first 3 rounds. I think Philly and Florida only have 4 picks.

[deadstar]

Rumor is, the rights to Malone/Orpik/both to Columbus for the 19th pick. I wouldnt mind it. Doubt we could resign Orpik, wouldnt want to resign Malone.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

Rumor is Afinogenov and the SJ pick to Vancouver for the 10th pick. I would love to have the 10th and 13th pick.

Could get one of the top-flight D-men if they fall (maybe) or get like Sbisa and a forward.

[LastPlaceRocks]

Rumor is, the rights to Malone/Orpik/both to Columbus for the 19th pick. I wouldnt mind it. Doubt we could resign Orpik, wouldnt want to resign Malone.
They'd have to something where Columbus was able to negotiate contracts for both players to get the deal done, but if I were Pittsburgh I'd try to either get the 6th pick or Columbus to throw in somebody else in addition to the 19th pick.

[Crocodile Logic]

ISS Top 30 2008 Prospects (Final):

1 Stamkos, Steven C 2/7/1990 R 5.11.7 176 Sarnia OHL
2 Bogosian, Zach RD 7/15/1990 R 6.02 197 Peterborough OHL
3 Filatov, Nikita LW 5/25/1990 R 6.00 172 Moscow CSKA-2 RusDi
4 Doughty, Drew RD 12/8/1989 R 6.00.5 219 Guelph OHL
5 Pietrangelo, Alex RD 1/18/1990 R 6.03.2 206 Niagara OHL
6 Schenn, Luke RD 11/2/1989 R 6.02.2 216 Kelowna WHL
7 Boedker, Mikkel LW 12/16/1989 L 5.11.2 195 Kitchener OHL
8 Wilson, Colin (Fr.) C 10/20/1989 L 6.01 215 Boston Univ H.E.
9 Hodgson, Cody C 2/18/1990 R 5.11.5 185 Brampton OHL
10 Bailey, Joshua C 10/2/1989 L 6.00.5 188 Windsor OHL
11 Sbisa, Luca LD 1/30/1990 L 6.01.7 190 Lethbridge WHL
12 Boychuk, Zac C 10/4/1989 L 5.09.5 175 Lethbridge WHL
13 Beach, Kyle C 1/13/1990 R 6.03 203 Everett WHL
14 Tedenby, Mattias LW 2/21/1990 L 5.10 176 HV71 SweJE
15 Myers, Tyler RD 2/1/1990 R 6.07.2 204 Kelowna WHL
16 Colborne, Joe LW 1/30/1990 L 6.05 190 Camrose AJHL
17 Petrov, Kirill LW 4/13/1990 L 6.03 198 Kazan RusDi
18 Teubert, Colten RD 3/8/1990 R 6.03.5 185 Regina WHL
19 Robak, Colby LD 4/24/1990 L 6.03 194 Brandon WHL
20 Dalpe, Zac C 11/1/1989 R 6.00.5 170 Penticton BCHL
21 Carlson, John RD 1/10/1990 R 6.02.2 212 Indiana USHL
22 Karlsson, Erik RD 5/31/1990 R 5.11 165 V. Frolunda SweJE
23 Del Zotto, Michael LD 6/24/1990 L 5.11.7 211 Oshawa OHL
24 Grachev, Evgeny C 2/21/1990 R 6.03 202 Yaroslavl RusDi
25 Deschamps, Nicolas C 1/6/1990 L 6.00.2 173 Chicoutimi QMJHL
26 Trivino, Corey C 1/12/1990 L 6.01 170 Stouffville OPJHL
27 Toews, David LW 6/7/1990 R 5.10 175 Shattuck-St. MN-HS
28 Nemisz, Greg C 6/5/1990 R 6.03 197 Windsor OHL
29 Ness, Aaron LD 5/18/1990 L 5.09.5 157 Roseau MN-HS
30 Eberle, Jordan C 5/15/1990 R 5.10 174 Regina WHL

little change, except for Bogo moving up into the second spot ahead of Filatov, which seems appropriate; especially considering all the questions surrounding Filatov due to the whole transfer agreement hullabaloo.

[LastPlaceRocks]

Again, how is David Toews 27 on the ISS list when he's something like 79 on the final CSS rankings?

Also saw that Gardiner has dropped like a rock and is now out of the first round. Wow.

[emkvetwin]

nice. if the kings draft filatov instead of bogosian or doughty, i will throw the remote through my TV. it's not even funny how badly we need defensemen. i expect a trade up using our second first round pick, a bundle of lower picks, and/or cammalleri.

and apparently, our season ticket holders are getting pretty pissed... the kings raised ticket prices, and we're not exactly looking at a massive turnaround next year. we'll be more fun to watch, but good?

[emkvetwin]

from the LA daily news blog for the Kings (it's amazing, especially since the LA Times acts as if hockey doesn't exist):

KINGS DRAFT PICKS
1 2nd
1 28th (From Dallas)
2 32nd
2 48th (From Calgary)
2 61st (From Detroit)
3 63rd
3 81st (From NY Rangers)
3 88th (From Philadelphia)
4 92nd (From Tampa Bay)
4 101st (From Vancouver)
5 123rd
6 153rd
6 179th (From Dallas)
7 183rd
7 185th (From Anaheim)

this draft will be my Stanley Cup Finals!

[zizou1790]

wheres Ryan Jones?

[StuGrimson]

The only Ryan Jones I know was drafted by Minnesota 4 years ago

[LastPlaceRocks]

wheres Ryan Jones?
He's in Houston.

[zizou1790]

The only Ryan Jones I know was drafted by Minnesota 4 years ago

oh ok i didnt realize he was already drafted

[deadstar]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3448428

Updated ESPN mock draft.

[bigmike]

I dont think the wings go for a goalie at 30. And saying the Wings have emerging talent at all positions outside of goalie is false (Jimmy Howard) and writing 'the sun is setting on chris osgood' makes it seem like he just had a brutal season. Better ways to word that.

[StuGrimson]

Id be shocked to see 4 goalies go in round 1 as ESPN has but I guess its not impossible. Though Staal at 29 is pretty laughable.

This draft is tough because after pick 1 there is no consensus order. And after the top maybe 12 anybody could fall anywhere. I expect to see some trades and teams moving up and down.

[LastPlaceRocks]

I dont think the wings go for a goalie at 30. And saying the Wings have emerging talent at all positions outside of goalie is false (Jimmy Howard) and writing 'the sun is setting on chris osgood' makes it seem like he just had a brutal season. Better ways to word that.
"Goaltending isn't a strength of the minor league system?" That's what they used for the Wild at 24, which is pretty funny because they already have a goalie of the future with Josh Harding.

Id be shocked to see 4 goalies go in round 1 as ESPN has but I guess its not impossible. Though Staal at 29 is pretty laughable.

This draft is tough because after pick 1 there is no consensus order. And after the top maybe 12 anybody could fall anywhere. I expect to see some trades and teams moving up and down.
I had to double back and make sure they didn't throw in David Toews for good measure, but what do you expect from the Worldwide Leader? Also, the fact that they don't have John Carlson in the first round is nothing short of amazing. I don't think I've seen a mock draft that has had him available to the Wild at 24, let alone be out of the first round.

[deadstar]

Id be shocked to see 4 goalies go in round 1 as ESPN has but I guess its not impossible. Though Staal at 29 is pretty laughable.

This draft is tough because after pick 1 there is no consensus order. And after the top maybe 12 anybody could fall anywhere. I expect to see some trades and teams moving up and down.
I think that should be listed as more of a knock on Atlanta that they listed him there. They said it'd be a move based purely on bloodlines. I figured only Atlanta would be dumb enough to do something like that.

[LastPlaceRocks]

It's either them or the Islanders - maybe Staal'll be taken by them at 36.

[LastPlaceRocks]

First Round tonight!

[StuGrimson]

I cant believe I have to miss this, its one of my favourite days of the year

[LastPlaceRocks]

Bummer - draft day is like Christmas in June, or what I think Christmas is.

[StuGrimson]

Im on vacation July 1st too, my whole summer (hockey wise) is ruined

[LastPlaceRocks]

You still have rounds 2-7 tomorrow. What's making you miss round one tonight?

[StuGrimson]

You still have rounds 2-7 tomorrow. What's making you miss round one tonight?

A date, which I made the poor decision of agreeing to tonight rather than tomorrow. I look forward to the rounds tomorrow too and thankfully its on tv. Though the coverage was awful last year.

[LastPlaceRocks]

Eh, at least that's an acceptable excuse rather than working or going to visit your grandparents.

[StuGrimson]

At least at my grandparents place I could sit in the basement and watch TV and not be bothered by anyone

[LastPlaceRocks]

That works - I'd be screwed draft-wise if I were at my grandma's, but then again if that was the case I'd be in Israel and would probably be doing something else.

[LastPlaceRocks]

First Round Picks:
1. Tampa Bay - Steven Stamkos
2. Los Angeles - Drew Doughty
3. Atlanta - Zach Bogosian
4. St Louis - Alex Pietrangelo
5. Toronto (from NYI) - Luke Schenn
6. Columbus - Nikita Filatov
7. Nashville (from NYI via TOR) - Colin Wilson
8. Phoenix - Mikkel Boedker
9. New York Islanders (from NSH via FLO) - Josh Bailey
10. Vancouver - Cody Hodgson
11. Chicago - Kyle Beach
12. Buffalo (from EDM via LA and ANA) - Tyler Myers
13. Los Angeles (from Buffalo) - Colten Teubert
14. Carolina - Zach Boychuk
15. Ottawa (from NSH) - Erik Karlsson
16. Boston - Joe Colborne
17. Anaheim (from Calgary) - Jake Gardiner
18. Nashville (from OTT) - Chet Pickard
19. Philadelphia (from CBJ via COL) - Luca Sbisa
20 New York Rangers - Michael Del Zotto
21. Washington (from NJ) - Anton Gustafsson
22. Edmonton (from ANA) - Jordan Eberle
23. Minnesota (from NJ via WSH) - Tyler Cuma
24. New Jersey (from MIN) - Mattias Tedenby
25. Calgary (from MTL) - Greg Nemisz
26. Buffalo (from SJ) - Tyler Ennis
27. Washington (from PHL) - John Carlson
28. Phoenix (from ANA via LA and Dallas) - Viktor Tikhonov
29. Atlanta (from PIT) - Daultan Leveille
30. Detroit - Thomas McCollum

[hockey0001]

whats up with at these trades

[LastPlaceRocks]

It's a deep draft.

[bobbo8]

whats up with at these trades
woah... another bruins fan?! haha that makes like 3 of us

[deadstar]

I dont think the wings go for a goalie at 30. And saying the Wings have emerging talent at all positions outside of goalie is false (Jimmy Howard) and writing 'the sun is setting on chris osgood' makes it seem like he just had a brutal season. Better ways to word that.
Not to be a jerk, but the picked a goalie in the 1st.

[LastPlaceRocks]

Not to be a jerk, but the picked a goalie in the 1st.
Weird, I basically did the same thing in the NHL thread.

[bigmike]

Not to be a jerk, but the picked a goalie in the 1st.
I was wrong.

[xbrokendownx]

anyone know anything about Tedenby, the guy the Devils drafted?

[bigmike]

NHL Central scouting on Tedenby:

Mattias is excellent on every shift. He has outstanding speed, stick work and work ethic. He is small but fearless - he takes hits and always comes back. He creates scoring chances with his outstanding skating and is very difficult to stop when he is at full speed. He has excellent balance and quick, smooth hands, but needs to improve on his defensive awareness.

TSN:

The diminutive Swedish winger is amongst the most competitive and skilled players available in this draft, but his lack of size is likely going to discount him in this draft. What he lacks in size, he makes up for with confidence, on and off the ice. He has an extra gear, which is essential for small guys looking to succeed in the NHL, and doesn't take a backward step in the mold of a Mats Naslund or Marty St. Louis. Could fall to the second round because of size issues, but if a team really likes him and is willing to look past the height, he could go much higher than ranked.

[xbrokendownx]

he sounds like Zach Parise 2.0...i like it

[bigmike]

I hated watching the draft. I watched part of it and Pierre McGuire would go "I think player x is a good pick here."

The team would make that pick and he'd go:


"I LOVE THIS PICK. THIS IS THE BEST PICK IN THE HISTORY OF PICKS. I LOVE THIS FOR THE TEAM AND THE LEAGUE. SUCH A GREAT PICK HERE IN THIS SPOT. i LOVE THIS PICK."

Annoying. Who seriously listens to him and goes "hey, he should be paid to talk for a living."

[Chris M.]

Does anyone actually think (aside from that douche McGuire) that Schenn is actually the answer for Toronto?

I'm curious to see what Stu thinks about this.

[tambo41187]

I hated watching the draft. I watched part of it and Pierre McGuire would go "I think player x is a good pick here."

The team would make that pick and he'd go:


"I LOVE THIS PICK. THIS IS THE BEST PICK IN THE HISTORY OF PICKS. I LOVE THIS FOR THE TEAM AND THE LEAGUE. SUCH A GREAT PICK HERE IN THIS SPOT. i LOVE THIS PICK."

Annoying. Who seriously listens to him and goes "hey, he should be paid to talk for a living."

I thought he was going to black out when the Leafs traded up....

[tambo41187]

Does anyone actually think (aside from that douche McGuire) that Schenn is actually the answer for Toronto?

I'm curious to see what Stu thinks about this.

Obliviously one player is not the answer for a team that is simply not bulit to make a long run (/make) the playoffs. But it is a nice start.

Leafs do not have a guy anywhere new the kind of player Schenn could be on their team right now.

[StuGrimson]

Does anyone actually think (aside from that douche McGuire) that Schenn is actually the answer for Toronto?

I'm curious to see what Stu thinks about this.

Its not the answer but its a step in the right direction, he is the HUMAN ERASER according to Pierre.

[bigmike]

I thought he was going to black out when the Leafs traded up....
We can't be so lucky.