Senior Citizen Homes/Centers

[AP_Punk]

smell.

And I don't think I'd want to be in one when I get really, really, old.

Discuss.

[Kassie09]

I would mutilate my children if they tried to put me in one.

I'd never ever put my grandma or my mom in one, I'd take care of them myself/hire a home nurse before I'd ever do that.

They give me chills, all of the old people are so unhappy in them, you can tell.

[lovely864md]

I plan on dying before I get this old.

[AP_Punk]

My great grandmother is in one.

And some friends of mine are taking a nursing-type class thing and some of their work they do at the nursing homes around here (things like changing, cleaning 'em). I don't think I'd like to work in one too. Ha.

[lovely864md]

My great grandmother is in one.

And some friends of mine are taking a nursing-type class thing and some of their work they do at the nursing homes around here (things like changing, cleaning 'em). I don't think I'd like to work in one too. Ha.

I couldn't work in one, I imagine that would be horribly depressing.

[AP_Punk]

I plan on dying before I get this old.

Hahaha. Good idea.

[ChiefSuckyDucky]

Euthanusia is still legal in Oregon. So when I get to the age of dying, prolly 70ish I think is right, I will buy me a plane ticket. Although I do know some Indians who would give me Opium and then scalp me for free. It would really suck to get scalped by an indian.

[lovely864md]

Hahaha. Good idea.

Haha I'm serious! I'm going early.

[googirl8907]

Hospitals smell too.

[chronomic]

I plan on dying before I get this old.

samesies



lets drive off a bridge together in about 50 or so years. and yes the car will explode in glorious fashion

[googirl8907]

samesies



lets drive off a bridge together in about 50 or so years. and yes the car will explode in glorious fashion


Hmm that does sound like a good idea. Roadtrip anyone?

[lovely864md]

samesies



lets drive off a bridge together in about 50 or so years. and yes the car will explode in glorious fashion

Fantastic. Now pinkie promise.

[_CR]

being a senior citizen sucks, I know from first hand experience, but theres ways around it, like me, I located the fountain of youth, its in Michael Jacksons basement.

[duhpunk]

i want to die in some kind of freak accident (preferably televised live) before i get so old that i'm shitting my pants, and every time i get out of a chair is a fucking adventure.

[odelay]

I volunteered in one for two years. It was quite possibly one of the most depressing places I've ever been.

[PadraicPrincess]

I never want to put my mom in a nursing home. I hope my kids never put me in one either. Senior citizens are treated like shit these days. I also would like to die before I get that old, unless I am some sort of super strength old woman.

[Smash Adams]

if a terrorist were to blow one up they'd be saving us a lot of money
just saying

[daniel.e]

I plan on dying before I get this old.

Yeah,

Die young and save yourself.

[JacquelineNancy]

Yeah,

Die young and save yourself.

Damn. You said it before I could.

[abstract grace]

I worked at one for about nine months. That place was like a high school... so much drama, haha.

[WakeUpBlondie]

one time i worked there for a school thing and had to clean up poop and eat their used food and they made it seem like it was a privilage for me to eat it, and for me not to thank them

[lovely864md]

Yeah,

Die young and save yourself.

The site never fails to bring the Brand New.

[shit stroll]

live fast, die awesome

[0starter0]

That's why I eat a diet that excludes red meat, (means I eat fish/eggs, dairy, vegs/fruits, grains) and exercise.

So I'm not completely worthless to society when I'm older.

[shit stroll]

yeah, well, i think eating meat/fish/eggs/dairy sucks dick :-p

[0starter0]

I'm down with that.

[Kassie09]

Meat is nasty.

[lovely864md]

Meat is nasty.

Amen.

[shit stroll]

^ :thumbup:

[shit stroll]

fat people who eat red meat are the worse.

[Kassie09]

They are?
I don't really mind what other people eat much, their decisions.

[shit stroll]

i'm not going to preach to people, i just think fat people who eat unhealthy foods are idiots.

[Kassie09]

i'm not going to preach to people, i just think fat people who eat unhealthy foods are idiots.

Yeah, I can agree with you.
Are you a vegan or vegetarian or just no red meat?

[0starter0]

62% of American adults are overweight and 27% are so overweight that they're obese.

1/3 of America is obese, 1/3 overweight, and 1/3 normal.

Nice picture isn't it.

[Kassie09]

If it keeps up, in highschools it's going to be the fat kids are the norm picking on the skinny kids and the skinny kids will try to get fat.
Won't that be something.

[shit stroll]

Yeah, I can agree with you.
Are you a vegan or vegetarian or just no red meat?
i've been a organic vegetarian for 1 1/2 years, and vegan for like 2 weeks lol. the dairy industry is just as bad the meat industry.

[0starter0]

Studies show that Vegans die around the same age as healthy meat eaters do.


"found that the mortality ratio was the lowest in fish eaters (0.82) followed by vegetarians (0.84) and occasional meat eaters (0.84) and which was then followed by regular meat eaters (1.0) and vegan (1.0)"

A 1999 Metastudy of six major studies from western countries.

[Kassie09]

i've been a organic vegetarian for 1 1/2 years, and vegan for like 2 weeks lol. the dairy industry is just as bad the meat industry.
Yeah, I read a book about it.
I don't eat eggs, I despise milk and yogurt but I do eat cheese.

I think once I move out and don't have to live with my parents shopping, my own shopping will be much..healthier.

Organic vegetarian, that must be hard at first. but very healthy.

[Smash Adams]

get the fuck out of here with your liberal hippie vegan bullshit

[Kassie09]

get the fuck out of here with your liberal hippie vegan bullshit
YOU.

[shit stroll]

Studies show that Vegans die around the same age as healthy meat eaters do.


"found that the mortality ratio was the lowest in fish eaters (0.82) followed by vegetarians (0.84) and occasional meat eaters (0.84) and which was then followed by regular meat eaters (1.0) and vegan (1.0)"

A 1999 Metastudy of six major studies from western countries.
i take a vegan omega 3 and 6 fatty acid supplement (which is the main nutrient in fish). so... i'm getting all off the the nutrients that come out from fish . plus i take a multi vitamin, b12 supplement, energy/protein shakes, green shake, etc.

[shit stroll]

get the fuck out of here with your liberal hippie vegan bullshit
fuck you!!!!! asshole!!! lol

[Smash Adams]

YOU.

crank dat soulja boy

I wish I could be a vegetarian since I love animals and am an environmentalist but meat is too delicious to give up

[shit stroll]

nah its not that hard.

[shit stroll]

well... the first few months are, but you get used to it. i definitely don't miss meat

[Kassie09]

crank dat soulja boy

I wish I could be a vegetarian since I love animals and am an environmentalist but meat is too delicious to give up
It's okay, I respect your decision to devour adorable animals.
I must say, I miss eating chickens. They're the only animal I miss.

[Kassie09]

well... the first few months are, but you get used to it. i definitely don't miss meat
I was forced to eat it the other day and got very very sick, I realize how gross it was. It was a very terrible day.

[Smash Adams]

well... the first few months are, but you get used to it. i definitely don't miss meat
I don't know my stomach would thank me for it too but I don't think I could
It's okay, I respect your decision to devour adorable animals.
I must say, I miss eating chickens. They're the only animal I miss.
I don't eat adorable animals
have you ever seen a cow up close? fucking scary my friend

[shit stroll]

damn. how were you "forced" ?

[Kassie09]

I don't know my stomach would thank me for it too but I don't think I could

I don't eat adorable animals
have you ever seen a cow up close? fucking scary my friend
Yes! I have! My cousin's family has a farm (Amanda's)
And, omg, the baby cows are so cute. I love them and want to hug them and take them everywhere with me.

damn. how were you "forced" ?

At my dad's house, he does not believe in not eating meat, at all. Since he hunts and everything.
And they made me.
I pretended it wasn't actually meat..but it didn't work.
So I retaliated by throwing it up.
The end of my terrible day.

[lovely864md]

My friends always try to fucking force meat on me. Nothing pisses me off more than that.

[lovely864md]

Yes! I have! My cousin's family has a farm (Amanda's)
And, omg, the baby cows are so cute. I love them and want to hug them and take them everywhere with me.



At my dad's house, he does not believe in not eating meat, at all. Since he hunts and everything.
And they made me.
I pretended it wasn't actually meat..but it didn't work.
So I retaliated by throwing it up.
The end of my terrible day.

Christ, that sucks!

[shit stroll]

Man's best friend is beautiful and affectionate, an ideal pet.
Cats are the same, we make up their names and our love for them is real.
Listen up, I gotta ask you, how can we be so cruel?
You say you care, that's a lie.
My true compassion is for all living things and not just the ones who are cute so I do what I can.
I wanna save lives and I've got a plan.

Under the table he'll eat your dinner like the veggies we can't stand.
What kind of meal would he make?
We don't want to ask it.
Tradition is all that keeps him alive.
Listen up, I gotta ask how can we be so cruel?
You say you care, that's a lie.
My true compassion is for all living things and not just the ones who are cute so I do what I can.
I wanna save lives and I've got a plan.

Why am I so upset.
Don't even own a pet.
I am not trying to press my will.
I am not the first to say...
THOU SHALT NOT KILL

Full is all you want to feel.
We eat to stay alive, but it's their lives we steal.
I think we'd like to change,
but most of us are stuck, that's why cats and dogs have
ALL THE LUCK

[shit stroll]

^ gorilla biscuits - "cats and dogs"

[Kassie09]

My friends always try to fucking force meat on me. Nothing pisses me off more than that.
So do my friends. Like, I'll go out to eat with them anywhere they'd like, even if it's a steakplace, I just get salad/pasta or whatever and they'll eat steak or something and be like "I LOVE DEAD ANIMALS."

And try to get me to eat it.
It's sort of stupid they can't just respect I don't chose to..

[shit stroll]

that does suck. i would not get along with your dad

[Kassie09]

that does suck. i would not get along with your dad
Most don't.
He despises it even worse when boys don't eat meat.
He's a real man.:-D

[lovely864md]

So do my friends. Like, I'll go out to eat with them anywhere they'd like, even if it's a steakplace, I just get salad/pasta or whatever and they'll eat steak or something and be like "I LOVE DEAD ANIMALS."

And try to get me to eat it.
It's sort of stupid they can't just respect I don't chose to..

I've gotten into the same argument with friends so many times.

"Why don't you eat meat?"

"Because I don't want to eat something that's been alive. It's weird."

"Plants are alive HAHAHAHA!"

[shit stroll]

yeah, that does suck. i have an asshole friend who used to be like that (yet he is big into rescuing cats and dogs).

[Kassie09]

I've gotten into the same argument with friends so many times.

"Why don't you eat meat?"

"Because I don't want to eat something that's been alive. It's weird."

"Plants are alive HAHAHAHA!"

Man, we have such awesome friends.

They're like "Who cares, God wouldn't have made us decide to eat animals if it wasn't right."
Because everything we do in the world, "God" would approve of...

They're so smart.

[shit stroll]

haha. if god was real, it would be necessary to abolish him

[lovely864md]

yeah, that does suck. i have an asshole friend who used to be like that (yet he is big into rescuing cats and dogs).

Contradictory people will forever confuse me.

Man, we have such awesome friends.

They're like "Who cares, God wouldn't have made us decide to eat animals if it wasn't right."
Because everything we do in the world, "God" would approve of...

They're so smart.

I also have the scientific friends who like to tell me that our body is made to digest meat. To which I say "I don't give a shit."

[Kassie09]

I read the diet book 'Skinny Bitch' I don't know if you've heard of it(it's been on a lot of talk shows and such) but it goes as far to say that we actually don't have the right stomach enzymes to digest it or dairy.

I'm not sure if there's any truth to it or not.

[shit stroll]

well... i guess we are supposedly omnivores. but we have evolved to point where we no longer need to eat meat for survival. if anything, factoring farm is contributing to the decline of the human race. animals should be free from human control, not couped up in cages and slaughter houses.

[shit stroll]

I read the diet book 'Skinny Bitch' I don't know if you've heard of it(it's been on a lot of talk shows and such) but it goes as far to say that we actually don't have the right stomach enzymes to digest it or dairy.

I'm not sure if there's any truth to it or not.
i have heard of that book, i dont know much about it though. i do know that meat and dairy fuck up my stomach

[lovely864md]

It just seems very strange to me. I've been a vegetarian since the age of 9, I quite frankly don't understand eating meat and I never have.

[shit stroll]

i'm with you on that

[Kassie09]

I agree with both of you on everything
because you're smart!

[lovely864md]

Sweet, vegetarian party.

[shit stroll]

:peta:

[shit stroll]

vegans/vegetarians rule

[lovely864md]

:peta:

Hahahaha perfect

[Kassie09]

I feel so in place at this party! I want a petting zoo.

[lovely864md]

Absolute Vegetarians.

[shit stroll]

we should start a meat is murder thread. it probably wouldn't be as good as this though

[Kassie09]

People would hate on us.
And they'd think we like PETA
well, maybe you two do, I certainly do not.

[lovely864md]

we should start a meat is murder thread. it probably wouldn't be as good as this though

We'd get a bunch of assholes. I like this, we understand each other.

[lovely864md]

People would hate on us.
And they'd think we like PETA
well, maybe you two do, I certainly do not.

I hate PETA. Hate it just as much as I hate eating meat.

[Kassie09]

Okay, I am glad you're not for PETA.
Now it's up to shitstroll to say no.

[lovely864md]

As a fun fact, I think this is the longest any Personal Life thread has gone without anal in a long time.

[Kassie09]

I don't know what to think about that.
The anal people are slacking.

[shit stroll]

haha i like peta. but.. i'm also into more radical groups like animal liberation front. the problem i have with peta is not with their tactics, but the fact they can be so fucking trendy (especially peta2). i hate people who are into animal rights just so they can be trendy or cool. chris hannah from propagandhi asked peta to remove his name from the sexiest vegetarians alive list a few years back because he thought materialistic shit like that defeats the whole purpose of animal rights activism.

[shit stroll]

why do you guys hate peta?

[Kassie09]

I really just think peta gives people the wrong idea about vegetarians and that we're all crazy and hate everyone who eats meat and just obsess over animal rights day in and day out.

peta is just crazy.

I've also heard they've lied about a lot (not sure if thats true)

[lovely864md]

Yeah, I just think that PETA gives vegetarianism a bad, non-tolerant crusading image. I truly believe in being open to all ideas even when they don't agree with your moral standards, and PETA has repeated failed to do that for me.

[shit stroll]

i don't think peta encourages people to hate meat eaters. i've never met any peta member who hates meat eaters. hell, i'm a peta member and i don't hate meat eaters. i'm sure they exist though, there are shitheads within any groups of people.

i think peta expresses opinions as fact sometimes, but i dont think they've ever blatantly lied about anything

[lovely864md]

Yeah one of my best friends is into PETA and she's a wonderful person. I just don't love the image that some of the people in control put out.

[shit stroll]

review of i am animal: the story of ingrid newkirk and peta


I grew up disliking PETA because of the things I had heard about them: throwing pies at people, extreme activism, standing in the way of medical research, etc. Well, this documentary pretty much confirmed all that but gave me a new perspective: PETA may not be "as bad" as I thought after all.

Basically, this is a documentary about Ingrid Newkirk, the British co-founder of PETA, and the organization itself. We see how they discuss situations, infiltrate organizations and plan 'extreme' demonstrations. We also get perspectives on PETA from different animal rights organizations.

According to the show, PETA does not seem to be liked by other animal rights groups. However, one does start to get a sense that PETA may have a role to play in our society - a role that those other groups are not performing. Ingrid shamelessly admits that much of what they do is to elicit shock value to get a "soundbyte" on the news. Otherwise, the public will hear nothing.

The program also indicates that there are very few "checks and balances" in the area of animal rights - so perhaps we need a wild and extreme attention getting group to get some knowledge out there. While I watched, I realized that I don't want a company to have a blank check to do anything to animals. It seems like it's often very hard to know what they're doing at all. Ignorance is bliss, but I'm not sure I want that kind of bliss.

I may disagree with PETA's ultimate agenda (there are some hints about that from the co-founder that left), but for now, I dislike PETA a whole lot less.

Whatever your views on PETA, this documentary is well worth the time. It's challenging, informative and frank.


i recommend everyone watch this documentary

[lauren<3s music]

im okay with them when its a last resort, i.e. the family can't properly care for them anymore. til then you should take care of your family.

[Kassie09]

I mean, they might do a world of good for all I know. I might be misinformed but just from what I do know or think I know, it makes me not like them a lot.

[Kassie09]

Guess what..
[MRS SWEENY TODD WROTE ON MY WALL.]

[shit stroll]

I mean, they might do a world of good for all I know. I might be misinformed but just from what I do know or think I know, it makes me not like them a lot.
check out that doc. asap! i think it might change your opinion on them.

[shit stroll]

Guess what..
[MRS SWEENY TODD WROTE ON MY WALL.]
is that really ur pic?

[Kassie09]

check out that doc. asap! i think it might change your opinion on them.
It just might.
Where would I find it?

[Kassie09]

is that really ur pic?
I should say "no, it's yours."

[lovely864md]

review of i am animal: the story of ingrid newkirk and peta



i recommend everyone watch this documentary

This sounds interesting. I'm scribbling it on a piece of paper and sticking it to my bulletin board.

[lovely864md]

I should say "no, it's yours."

Do it, it will confuse her and lead to hilarity!

You always get all the Sweeny. !hotemo! is your girl go flirt with her.

[Kassie09]

Do it, it will confuse her and lead to hilarity!

You always get all the Sweeny. !hotemo! is your girl go flirt with her.

I think we need to swing.
Sweeny sending me the signs.

[shit stroll]

first part of the video. if i find more parts i will post

RGA1O1PHq_g

[lovely864md]

I think we need to swing.
Sweeny sending me the signs.

Fine fine whatever have your sweeny.

[Skadrist]

If you attempted to press organic food now, wouldn't you alienate the working class by identifying with bourgeois characteristics (name one working class person who buys organic or shops at whole foods) sure, he may define himself as working class in terms of ownership in the means of production, but his prestige and status alienate him from the industrial sectors (ours) that seek to gain the most from the workers liberation.

[lovely864md]

first part of the video. if i find more parts i will post

RGA1O1PHq_g

I'm definitely watching this tomorrow when I can actually turn up the volume

[Kassie09]

first part of the video. if i find more parts i will post

RGA1O1PHq_g
There's no animal gore or anything that will upset me in this, is there? I cannot watch such things.

Fine fine whatever have your sweeny.
Thanks, I need her. she's my sun.

If you attempted to press organic food now, wouldn't you alienate the working class by identifying with bourgeois characteristics (name one working class person who buys organic or shops at whole foods) sure, he may define himself as working class in terms of ownership in the means of production, but his prestige and status alienate him from the industrial sectors (ours) that seek to gain the most from the workers liberation.
What.

[Skadrist]

There's no animal gore or anything that will upset me in this, is there? I cannot watch such things.


Thanks, I need her. she's my sun.


What.

Sorry it was directed to shit stroll.

[Kassie09]

Sorry it was directed to shit stroll.
Oh, okay. Because I didn't understand it.

[shit stroll]

If you attempted to press organic food now, wouldn't you alienate the working class by identifying with bourgeois characteristics (name one working class person who buys organic or shops at whole foods) sure, he may define himself as working class in terms of ownership in the means of production, but his prestige and status alienate him from the industrial sectors (ours) that seek to gain the most from the workers liberation.
i know many poor people/hippies/anarchist who are vegans and who shop at whole foods.

the high price of organic food is a huuuuge problem. part of the problem lies with our governments tax policies. we need to be giving tax breaks to organic farmers, instead of giving tax cuts to multi national corporations who produce genetically modified food.

[Skadrist]

Oh, okay. Because I didn't understand it.

In layman's terms is that the pressing organic, along with vegetarian and vegan food alienates a significant portion of the populations, ie the working class.



Either way i feel like brining up this article.
http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/72417/?comments=view&cID=806803&pID=806692#c806803

[shit stroll]

once again, organic food is not the problem, the prices of organic food is the problem.

are you trying to say that i should support factory farms over local, organic farmers?

[Skadrist]

i know many poor people/hippies/anarchist who are vegans and who shop at whole foods.

the high price of organic food is a huuuuge problem. part of the problem lies with our governments tax policies. we need to be giving tax breaks to organic farmers, instead of giving tax cuts to multi national corporations who produce genetically modified food.



Your initial statement is a generalization, it certainly does not reflect nor correlate with the majority of the population. Also the agricultural industry in the US is massively subsidized. Its simple, really: WHO IS GOING TO PAY MORE FOR MORAL ELITISM?

[Villanova1L]

Meat is delicious.

fixed

[shit stroll]

part of the problem with capitalism is, only the wealthy are allowed to participate in consumer activism. this is do to the fact that organic food, fair trade products, sweatshop free clothing cost more than there traditional counterparts. i have a huuuge problem with this, i think we need to rework our entire tax system, and start giving tax breaks to ethical corporations in order to keep prices down on the products mentioned above. of coarse that would be more like a band aid on the problem, i seek to abolish capitalism and the wage slave system which is a component of capitalism.

[Kassie09]

fixed
If I actually knew who you were, I would have made that into a joke and wrote "Only yours."
But since I don't, http://i26.tinypic.com/2yzmyva.jpg

[Villanova1L]

If I actually knew who you were, I would have made that into a joke and wrote "Only yours."
But since I don't, http://i26.tinypic.com/2yzmyva.jpg

Great picture. I think the PETA documentary is hilarious because she laughs and makes a ton of money pitching the idea that chickens and cows are equal to people.

There is a natural pecking order in the wild, and we are at the top.

The organic food argument should be interesting

[Kassie09]

Yeah yeah yeah food chains, yada yada.
We're not cavemen anymore, we don't HAVE to eat meat.

But I honestly do not mind if other people do as long as they respect that I do not.

[Villanova1L]

Yeah yeah yeah food chains, yada yada.
We're not cavemen anymore, we don't HAVE to eat meat.

But I honestly do not mind if other people do as long as they respect that I do not.

You just yada yada'd over centuries of human evolution. Well done.

Explain to me the benefits of NOT eating healthy fats through red meats, poultry, and fish other than killing animals?

[Kassie09]

You just yada yada'd over centuries of human evolution. Well done.

Explain to me the benefits of NOT eating healthy fats through red meats, poultry, and fish other than killing animals?
To be honest, I know the same amount of animals basically get killed.
I just do not like the taste of meat and I don't feel like it is healthy to eat red meat, I suppose chicken/fish are, but I just dislike them.

Good enough answer?

[shit stroll]

Your initial statement is a generalization, it certainly does not reflect nor correlate with the majority of the population. Also the agricultural industry in the US is massively subsidized. Its simple, really: WHO IS GOING TO PAY MORE FOR MORAL ELITISM?
"If you attempted to press organic food now, wouldn't you alienate the working class by identifying with bourgeois characteristics (name one working class person who buys organic or shops at whole foods) sure, he may define himself as working class in terms of ownership in the means of production, but his prestige and status alienate him from the industrial sectors (ours) that seek to gain the most from the workers liberation."

that my friend is a generalized statement. do you honesty think the bourgeois class is the only group of people that eats organic food? organic food did not even gain popularity in america with the wealthy up until the 90's. i will take you to my local health food store in little five points atlanta. i promise you will see poor people, rich people, black people, mexicans, indians, anarchist, liberals, hippies, punks, conservatives, people from all walks of life.

rastafarian's are not allowed to eat food with pesticides in it, do you think rastafarian's are a generally wealthy group of people? i know working class people who eat organic food in order to prevent illness, thus saving money by not having huge medical bills.

[shit stroll]

Great picture. I think the PETA documentary is hilarious because she laughs and makes a ton of money pitching the idea that chickens and cows are equal to people.

There is a natural pecking order in the wild, and we are at the top.

The organic food argument should be interesting
let me get this straight, slaughter houses and the enslavement of animals are part of nature? where in nature do you find slaughter houses and animals in cages? i would looove to see it. if you go off and catch an animals with your bare hands, than fair game. but you cannot legitimacy argue that slaughter houses are part of nature.

[Kassie09]

let me get this straight, slaughter houses and the enslavement of animals are part of nature? where in nature do you find slaughter houses and animals in cages? i would looove to see it. if you go off and catch an animals with your bare hands, than fair game. but you cannot legitimacy argue that slaughter houses are part of nature.

That's also a main reason, just seeing what happens to the animals and how disgustingly the meat is gotten.
In a book I read, they described the animal torture and actual things farmers admitted to doing, I felt terrible for weeks.

[shit stroll]

animals are meant to be free... not couped in cages, enslaved by man. veganism (unless you catch animals with your bare hands) is as natural as you can possibly get.

[Villanova1L]

To be honest, I know the same amount of animals basically get killed.
I just do not like the taste of meat and I don't feel like it is healthy to eat red meat, I suppose chicken/fish are, but I just dislike them.

Good enough answer?

Great answer, but also not the way you were presenting yourself before.

[Kassie09]

Great answer, but also not the way you were presenting yourself before.
And how was I presenting myself before?
I do think the idea of meat is disgusting.

[Villanova1L]

let me get this straight, slaughter houses and the enslavement of animals are part of nature? where in nature do you find slaughter houses and animals in cages? i would looove to see it. if you go off and catch an animals with your bare hands, than fair game. but you cannot legitimacy argue that slaughter houses are part of nature.

As intelligent beings we evolve to benefit ourselves at the top of the food chain. I would say our innovations over time to be more efficient are entitled to us because of our higher development.

[Villanova1L]

And how was I presenting myself before?
I do think the idea of meat is disgusting.

I thought you said that you didn't eat it because it didn't taste good (or at least with chicken and fish), that is very different than talking about the horrors of the meat industry.

[tfar06]

i work in a an assisted living center. i love it. old ppeople are fucking hilarious.

[shit stroll]

As intelligent beings we evolve to benefit ourselves at the top of the food chain. I would say our innovations over time to be more efficient are entitled to us because of our higher development.
as intelligent beings we have evolved to the point where we don't need to enslave and murder animals for our survival.

[lovely864md]

Villanova comes into every thread to argue.

[Kassie09]

I thought you said that you didn't eat it because it didn't taste good (or at least with chicken and fish), that is very different than talking about the horrors of the meat industry.
The main reason I don't eat it is because I don't like the taste of pretty much all of it, although I've never eaten seafood in my life.

However, another thing is how terribly the animals are treated. But I know I'm not saving any of them, at all.

[Skadrist]

Humans are not "superior" to animals in some sort of universalist externalistic sense. But we are more important to animals relative to human society.

There is no "morality" or "value" outside of human society; we invented such thing. Wolves do not feel "regret" or "empathy" after they slaughter an animal, nor do they view the animal as "inferior" to them, they just eat it!

Animals simply do not exist within a moral or rational social framework and the idea of some sort of "commonality of species" is just pure postmodern liberal superstition, no matter whether you characterize humans as being "better than" or "equal to" other species.

Now, on the practical stuff, most of the "humans are better crowd" has it right. "Rights" for animals are pure nonsense.

[Villanova1L]

Villanova comes into every thread to argue.

Only if I disagree. Intelligent post by the way.

[Villanova1L]

as intelligent beings we have evolved to the point where we don't need to enslave and murder animals for our survival.

I understand that you are emotional about this but take a step back and think about what you're saying.

The idea that we have evolved beyond what is natural, eating animals, is silly. I suppose I should have to walk throughout the world because we've evolved far enough to realize that CO2 emission is bad? Come on.

Stop using words like enslave to describe animals who have no value to us other than food (and I suppose supporting the ecosystem, which hasn't appeared to have failed yet).

[lovely864md]

Only if I disagree. Intelligent post by the way.

I think you should just chill out and post for laughs instead. But do what you want.

[shit stroll]

Humans are not "superior" to animals in some sort of universalist externalistic sense. But we are more important to animals relative to human society.

There is no "morality" or "value" outside of human society; we invented such thing. Wolves do not feel "regret" or "empathy" after they slaughter an animal, nor do they view the animal as "inferior" to them, they just eat it!

Animals simply do not exist within a moral or rational social framework and the idea of some sort of "commonality of species" is just pure postmodern liberal superstition, no matter whether you characterize humans as being "better than" or "equal to" other species.

Now, on the practical stuff, most of the "humans are better crowd" has it right. "Rights" for animals are pure nonsense.
i don't know of any animal rights activist who thinks that animals have the comprehension/ability to distinguish right from wrong. we just believe that animals should be free and in the wild, not couped up in cages and slaughter houses.

[Skadrist]

i don't know of any animal rights activist who thinks that animals have the comprehension/ability to distinguish right from wrong. we just believe that animals should be free and in the wild, not couped up in cages and slaughter houses.

But wouldn't the liberation of animals lead to an overpopulation of herbivores putting a dramatic strain on the ecosystem?

[Villanova1L]

I think you should just chill out and post for laughs instead. But do what you want.

I have much more serious things going on, so believe me when I say that my posts on here are the last thing that stress me out.

[shit stroll]

I understand that you are emotional about this but take a step back and think about what you're saying.

The idea that we have evolved beyond what is natural, eating animals, is silly. I suppose I should have to walk throughout the world because we've evolved far enough to realize that CO2 emission is bad? Come on.

Stop using words like enslave to describe animals who have no value to us other than food (and I suppose supporting the ecosystem, which hasn't appeared to have failed yet).
well... we most certainly don't need to eat meat for survival, scientists have created plenty of alternatives. so in way, we have evolved to the point where we don't need meat for survival.

plus, there's many environment/morality issues with factory farming that has nothing to do with the actual slaughter of animals. like the cutting down of forest/rainforest to make way for grazing animals, or the fact that the majority of grains grown in american goes to feed live stock instead of starving humans, or the fact that factory farms are the leading pollutants in the world.

[shit stroll]

But wouldn't the liberation of animals lead to an overpopulation of herbivores putting a dramatic strain on the ecosystem?
do you not think there would be a considerably less amount of animals on this planet if humans stopped breeding them? commercialized breeding is a huge problem.

[Villanova1L]

well... we most certainly don't need to eat meat for survival, scientists have created plenty of alternatives. so in way, we have evolved to the point where we don't need meat for survival.

plus, there's many environment/morality issues with factory farming that has nothing to do with the actual slaughter of animals. like the cutting down of forest/rainforest to make way for grazing animals, or the fact that the majority of grains grown in american goes to feed live stock instead of starving humans, or the fact that factory farms are the leading pollutants in the world.

The advancement of an alternative is very valid, just as we now have the alternative of buying any meat we with from a butcher, as opposed to hunting and killing it.

However, the advancement of an alternative doesn't mean we must engage in it. For example, I have the choice of driving a hybrid car or not, simply because science has created an alternative certainly doesn't mean I need to use it.

The grain grown in America to feed live stock is more profitable to the people growing it than if it was sold for commercial consumption.

You still fail to address the issue I raised and fall back on the moral wrong of killing animals, when it can be debated that there is no moral issue in doing so.

[shit stroll]

The advancement of an alternative is very valid, just as we now have the alternative of buying any meat we with from a butcher, as opposed to hunting and killing it.

However, the advancement of an alternative doesn't mean we must engage in it. For example, I have the choice of driving a hybrid car or not, simply because science has created an alternative certainly doesn't mean I need to use it.

The grain grown in America to feed live stock is more profitable to the people growing it than if it was sold for commercial consumption.

You still fail to address the issue I raised and fall back on the moral wrong of killing animals, when it can be debated that there is no moral issue in doing so.
commercialized butcher shops have been around for hundreds, perhaps thousands of years. would meat substitutes not be a natural progression for the human species? would the fact that we no longer have to rely upon the slaughter of innocent animals, cut down forest, feed farm animals grains, etc. be natural human progression?

once again, improving cars gas mileage is natural human progression.

capitalism - putting profit over human lives, the environment, and animal welfare for over 200 years.

in my own humble opinion, i feel that enslaving and slaughtering animals is very cruel and immoral. i try to picture myself as an animal: would i like to be couped up in cages, kicked at, spit at, eyes gouged at, throat slit, etc.? no, i fucking wouldn't.

[shit stroll]

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south korean dog slaughter house

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[Villanova1L]

eating meat = holocaust.

you're delusional

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turkey slaughter house

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[Villanova1L]

south korean dog slaughter house

I love how they gloss over the culture thing with 3 seconds of him saying, "he said I didn't respect their culture." That is all the mention of it.

[shit stroll]

largest beef recal in u.s. history

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[Villanova1L]

when you lose on merits, resort to shocking video!

[shit stroll]

when you lose on merits, resort to shocking video!
i have not lost any merits, nor have you proven the justification of slaughter houses. and i love the fact that you think these videos are "shocking". finally, we agree on something! mans inhumane treatment towards animals is shocking.

[AP_Punk]

You guys hijacked my thread. :sadangel:

[apresnuledeluge]

So uh... How 'bout them old people?

[lovely864md]

Smelly.

[AP_Punk]

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/slemieux66/abe_simpson.gif

[Smash Adams]

you guys shouldn't discriminate against old people b/c one might become president and you can never say bad things about the president unless you're a terrorist

[Kassie09]

You guys hijacked my thread. :sadangel:

kirbie we brought your thread to bigger and better things!! :]

[AP_Punk]

you guys shouldn't discriminate against old people b/c one might become president and you can never say bad things about the president unless you're a terrorist

Hans Moleman for President

kirbie we brought your thread to bigger and better things!! :]

:peta:

[Mrs.Sweeny Todd]

i went to one once and all the old ppl r meen and some r reallyyyyy um..... yeah

[shit stroll]

animals rule, old people suck!

[shit stroll]

;-)

[chronomic]

animals rule, old people suck!

these shoes rule...these shoes suck!

[Rock]

That's why I eat a diet that excludes red meat, (means I eat fish/eggs, dairy, vegs/fruits, grains) and exercise.

So I'm not completely worthless to society when I'm older.
Oh, really? I didn't know that "red meat" could mean "fish/eggs, dairy, veg/fruits and grains."

yeah, well, i think eating meat/fish/eggs/dairy sucks dick :-p
Intelligent. Thanks for the contribution.

[Rock]

i went to one once and all the old ppl r meen and some r reallyyyyy um..... yeah
How's the new album coming?

[Rock]

I hope to never be placed in one, and I don't think I could put my parents in one either. They do seem like really awful places. It's almost like the people there are waiting to die.

[shit stroll]

Oh, really? I didn't know that "red meat" could mean "fish/eggs, dairy, veg/fruits and grains."


Intelligent. Thanks for the contribution.

you're welcome

[AP_Punk]

I hope to never be placed in one, and I don't think I could put my parents in one either. They do seem like really awful places. It's almost like the people there are waiting to die.

Yeah. Such a downer being there most of the time.

[lovely864md]

I hope to never be placed in one, and I don't think I could put my parents in one either. They do seem like really awful places. It's almost like the people there are waiting to die.

Ugh, this is so true. I was in one to watch my brother perform a few years ago (high school jazz band did some visits) and my dad had this conversation with the old dentist. There were two buildings there, and they were wheeling in people from the other building. He told us very matter of factly that no one ever came out of that building, and pretty much everyone ended up there eventually. I'm not doing the story justice but it was awful.

[chronomic]

i don't know how else to say it, i don't want to see my parents go

[Chancetobe]

Yeah, I don't think I could handle living in one. Or even really volunteering there. I get sort of creeped out every time I go to visit one of our family friends who is in a nursing home. I do feel bad about it though.

[SLoT]

my friend tom used to work in an old folks home. the old ladies fucking loved him. he was honestly hilarious with them. he used to be an outright nice guy to them and walk them across the street, but to everyone else he'd do it to where it was funny for us, and sweet for them.

[daniel.e]

That's why I eat a diet that excludes red meat, (means I eat fish/eggs, dairy, vegs/fruits, grains) and exercise.

So I'm not completely worthless to society when I'm older.

Being vegan or vegetarian generally has a connotation of being really really healthy. But you can still eat almost everything with sugar in it, etc. I'm a vegetarian, and I don't eat eggs. But damn.. I love tofu icecream, caramel, peanut butter, and that kind of shitz. I don't feel healthy. :P

[shit stroll]

Being vegan or vegetarian generally has a connotation of being really really healthy. But you can still eat almost everything with sugar in it, etc. I'm a vegetarian, and I don't eat eggs. But damn.. I love tofu icecream, caramel, peanut butter, and that kind of shitz. I don't feel healthy. :P
haha that is definitely true. this cookbook is full of unhealthy vegan recipes. http://www.amazon.com/Vegan-Vengeance-Delicious-Animal-Free-Recipes/dp/1569243581/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208546595&sr=1-2

[Villanova1L]

i have not lost any merits, nor have you proven the justification of slaughter houses. and i love the fact that you think these videos are "shocking". finally, we agree on something! mans inhumane treatment towards animals is shocking.

You gave up on making points and then just went ahead and posted videos.

I definitely don't feel great about the way animals are treated, but at the same time i think that the benefit of cheaper meat (because they are bred to be killed) greatly outweighs the benefit of animal "rights". I think the idea of animals having rights is silly because they're only contribution to humans is food.

We do agree they are shocking.

/hijack

[shit stroll]

when did i give up making points?

why should animals not have "rights" ? do you not think that humans should have rights? in my world view (your views are different given the fact that you're christian) all species are created equally. in my opinion, humans are no more important than a cow, chicken, dolphin, dog, horse, etc.

it is obvious we hold different views when it comes to what roles animals play in society. nothing either one of us say is going to change the others mind. so i think we should just drop this conversation. agree to disagree.

[daniel.e]

haha that is definitely true. this cookbook is full of unhealthy vegan recipes. http://www.amazon.com/Vegan-Vengeance-Delicious-Animal-Free-Recipes/dp/1569243581/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208546595&sr=1-2

Mm mm! I need to bake some goodies. Sucks that it's 1:14 AM.

[lovely864md]

This thread is about old people. Shush your bickering.

[Villanova1L]

when did i give up making points?

why should animals not have "rights" ? do you not think that humans should have rights? in my world view (your views are different given the fact that you're christian) all species are created equally. in my opinion, humans are no more important than a cow, chicken, dolphin, dog, horse, etc.

it is obvious we hold different views when it comes to what roles animals play in society. nothing either one of us say is going to change the others mind. so i think we should just drop this conversation. agree to disagree.

I'd love to have you explain your world where everything is equal and how you could possibly justify it. Also, please explain the additional benefits of animals other than a source of food for things higher on the food chain.

Perhaps start another thread if we want to stop hijacking this one.

[daniel.e]

This thread is about old people. Shush your bickering.

My apologies. :(

[lovely864md]

My apologies. :(

Not you our little debaters over here.

OLD PEOPLE

[shit stroll]

I'd love to have you explain your world where everything is equal and how you could possibly justify it. Also, please explain the additional benefits of animals other than a source of food for things higher on the food chain.

Perhaps start another thread if we want to stop hijacking this one.
i would love for you to explain how the world was created in 6 days, how humans are older than dinosaurs, how man can live inside whales, how a pair of every single animal on the planet can fit in a boat, etc.

[lovely864md]

Buttwads. I am scolding you. Old people.

[shit stroll]

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"If you don't like my opinions leave. But just remember, the animals can't leave the cages that hold them. They are captive and suffering. As you cozy into your bed tonight, try to imagine the pain and the suffering that they endure day after day and night after night. Next time you get some soap in your eyes, try to imagine that pain for 3 or 4 days at a time. Next time you have a stomach ache, try to imagine liquid plumber being poured down your throat till you puke so much blood that you bleed to death. Next time you bump your head, try to imagine being a monkey and getting a steel plate smashed into your skull at 50 miles per hour. Then, only then should you feel compelled to tell me that I'm wrong about my opinions. For all these things have happened in the name of science. They continue in abundance till this day."
-Ricki Rockett



"Do we, as humans, having an ability to reason and to communicate abstract ideas verbally and in writing, and to form ethical and moral judgments using the accumulated knowledge of the ages, have the right to take the lives of other sentient organisms, particularly when we are not forced to do so by hunger or dietary need, but rather do so for the somewhat frivolous reason that we like the taste of meat? In essence, shouldn't we know better?"
-Peter Cheeke


"The thinking man must oppose all cruel customs no matter how deeply rooted in tradition and surrounded by a halo. When we have a choice, we must avoid bringing torment and injury into the life of another, even the lowliest creature; to do so is to renounce our manhood and shoulder a guilt which nothing justifies."
-Albert Schweitzer


"The fact is that there is enough food in the world for everyone. But tragically, much of the world's food and land resources are tied up in producing beef and other livestock--food for the well off--while millions of children and adults suffer from malnutrition and starvation."
-Dr.Walden Bello

[Villanova1L]

i would love for you to explain how the world was created in 6 days, how humans are older than dinosaurs, how man can live inside whales, how a pair of every single animal on the planet can fit in a boat, etc.

Belief in a higher being requires a jump of faith, something that is outside yourself that is capable of the humanly impossible. Without that leap it is impossible to explain because that is the essence of religion and of faith, and to your point, Christianity.

The fact that you see no evidence of God's existence isn't proof that it isn't true. Common logically fallacy. I merely asked you to explain your point of view, but by the substance of your post I assume you can't.

[Villanova1L]

The quotes you posted are great, really moving stuff.

The last one cites nothing saying that we could distribute the food to all the starving people, or that farmers could provide for their families if we did so. Also, I think the abundance of animals that'd be released into the wild would put a great strain on the ecosystem.

The third would say that would be equally morally culpable by stepping on an ant as I would by killing a person, which is ridiculous on its face.

The second makes a point that is the most valid. However, killing something for the taste is reason enough if we are in a position to do so. Call that might makes right, but the alternative isn't appealing to the majority of people, if it were we'd all be vegan. I'm well aware this sounds like, "well everyone is doing it so it is ok..." I do not wish that to be my point. Rather I recommend that you realize that society has developed certain habits, such as eating meat, that are ingrained and to believe we could change them on a whim is absurd.

I will tell him his opinions are wrong. Just like testing on animals for scientific gain is fair regardless of the harm to animals because it promotes a greater good. In the case of killing animals for food it creates industry, jobs, and other economic gains. These gains are at the cost of beings which don't contribute in any way other than being food (or at least you've given me no ways they do).

[shit stroll]

Belief in a higher being requires a jump of faith, something that is outside yourself that is capable of the humanly impossible. Without that leap it is impossible to explain because that is the essence of religion and of faith, and to your point, Christianity.

The fact that you see no evidence of God's existence isn't proof that it isn't true. Common logically fallacy. I merely asked you to explain your point of view, but by the substance of your post I assume you can't.
yeah, you're right. the earth was created in 6 days. humans walked the earth the same time as dinosaurs. the first woman was created from a mans ribcage. snakes can talk. the noahs ark story reeks with with credibility.

[Villanova1L]

yeah, you're right. the earth was created in 6 days. humans walked the earth the same time as dinosaurs. the first woman was created from a mans ribcage. snakes can talk. the noahs ark story reeks with with credibility.

When you can't make any points of your own resort to sarcasm.

Yeah you're right, animals are equal to humans, ants are vital to the survival of humanity, anything that can feel should be treated the same, and cows shouldn't be eaten,

[Villanova1L]

Buttwads. I am scolding you. Old people.

Buttwads?

[matt_bergeron]

if there comes a point in my life where i need someone to wipe me ass for me.... i would like someone to put a bullet in my head.

those places creep me out, its like a transition period. "hey! you aren't dead yet, but we will put you in a place that made you wish you were!"

[lovely864md]

Buttwads?

I stand by it.

[shit stroll]

When you can't make any points of your own resort to sarcasm.

Yeah you're right, animals are equal to humans, ants are vital to the survival of humanity, anything that can feel should be treated the same, and cows shouldn't be eaten,
yeah, i do believe that all animals are created equally. i do believe that animals should be out in the wild, not couped up in cages, and free from human control. just as you believe in creatism and the stories in the bible.

i've explained to you time and again why i'm vegan. i would not torture an animal. i would not want someone to torture me. i have compassion for vulnerable animals who have done nothing to deserve brutal and inhumane treatment. why is that so hard for you to grasp?

pretty good site http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/

[4N6 science]

I worked at one for about nine months. That place was like a high school... so much drama, haha.

yeah i worked at a nursing home for about 3 years in one of the cafeterias. And I agree the place is just like high school, so much stupid drama. Also there is a smell there. every night I'd get off of work i could feel it on my clothes and skin and couldn't wait to take a shower and get the old people smell off. I plan on living to 100, and in good health so I won't be in one of those places..

[Mrs.Sweeny Todd]

How's the new album coming?

it's we want 14 on it but right now i have 3 recorded and 1 more song is almost done it except for some of the ahs and ohs lol uno what i meen

[lovely864md]

it's we want 14 on it but right now i have 3 recorded and 1 more song is almost done it except for some of the ahs and ohs lol uno what i meen

So who are you touring with?

[Mrs.Sweeny Todd]

So who are you touring with?

different peeps one band one week and another the next so i don't bother to learn the names

[lovely864md]

different peeps one band one week and another the next so i don't bother to learn the names

Oh, right. What kind of music exactly is it you're doing?

[Smash Adams]

different peeps one band one week and another the next so i don't bother to learn the names
that's not very professional of you
how are you supposed to make connections if you don't bother to learn names

[Mrs.Sweeny Todd]

Oh, right. What kind of music exactly is it you're doing?

pop/r&b-alternative/rock i pretty much want to give a new spin on that whole seen

[lovely864md]

pop/r&b-alternative/rock i pretty much want to give a new spin on that whole seen

Ah alright. You'll have to give me your info so I can buy one of your albums.

[Mrs.Sweeny Todd]

that's not very professional of you
how are you supposed to make connections if you don't bother to learn names

well it usually depends if i like their music but i do talk to them i just don't care to stay in touch with MOST of them

[Mrs.Sweeny Todd]

Ah alright. You'll have to give me your info so I can buy one of your albums.

i don't think it's gana be ready for like maybe 6 months or 7 at the most 5 at the earliest and i don't think i'll cell in U.S first but if u wanna fly somewhere and get it when it's done lol

[lovely864md]

i don't think it's gana be ready for like maybe 6 months or 7 at the most 5 at the earliest and i don't think i'll cell in U.S first but if u wanna fly somewhere and get it when it's done lol

Why exactly aren't you selling it in the US? Maybe you could mail it to me.

[Mrs.Sweeny Todd]

Why exactly aren't you selling it in the US? Maybe you could mail it to me.


i don't know why i think it might because the US isnt looking for my style of music ,but maybe the 2nd album

[lovely864md]

i don't know why i think it might because the US isnt looking for my style of music ,but maybe the 2nd album

Well you should at least get a myspace or something for your music to get it out there.

[Mrs.Sweeny Todd]

Well you should at least get a myspace or something for your music to get it out there.

i agree i'll talk to my manager

[lovely864md]

i agree i'll talk to my manager

Okay, send me the link when you do.

[Mrs.Sweeny Todd]

Okay, send me the link when you do.

and if he says no............

[lovely864md]

and if he says no............

I noticed in your profile it says you have a show on youtube. Could I have the link to that?

[Mrs.Sweeny Todd]

I noticed in your profile it says you have a show on youtube. Could I have the link to that?

i had one but then i'll my friends started doing it so i took them off i when everyone does what i does it happens alot and it get's soooo annoying

[lovely864md]

i had one but then i'll my friends started doing it so i took them off i when everyone does what i does it happens alot and it get's soooo annoying

Oh right okay.

[Mrs.Sweeny Todd]

Oh right okay.


i'm soo sorry ino it sounds like a bunch of lies but it's not

[lovely864md]

i'm soo sorry ino it sounds like a bunch of lies but it's not

It's just I don't have any proof that you really exist.

[Mrs.Sweeny Todd]

It's just I don't have any proof that you really exist.

well i wish i could prove it to you with a piece of something but i can't im sorry i really am

[Smash Adams]

It's just I don't have any proof that you really exist.
want to raise money to get her to play carnegie hall?

[lovely864md]

want to raise money to get her to play carnegie hall?

Sure! I'll hold the bake sale can you cover the lemonade stand?

[Smash Adams]

Sure! I'll hold the bake sale can you cover the lemonade stand?
no that's so last year
I'm selling iced tea

[lovely864md]

no that's so last year
I'm selling iced tea

Find but if you don't bring it profit it's your ass. Carnegie Hall is where she belongs.

[Chris Fallon]

When I had to visit great-grandparents in old folks' homes, I was terrified. Not only do they smell, there truly are some scary people in there.

I feel bad for them and for thinking that, but half of them are so senile and comatose, you can't help but feel completely fucking paralyzed with fear as a child.

[staywhatyouare9]

I work at a retirement center, most retirement homes are in poor condition but im lucky enough to work in a upper scale one that used to be a luxury hotel. I love old people i think they are real fun to talk to, i think people get the wrong idea of them because they usually dont talk to them.

[Chris Fallon]

i don't know why i think it might because the US isnt looking for my style of music ,but maybe the 2nd album
What is this style of music we aren't quite ready for? I can't imagine too many genres we have yet to discover for the tweeny-bopper audience.

[AP_Punk]

a blend of metal, country and rap?

[Mrs.Sweeny Todd]

What is this style of music we aren't quite ready for? I can't imagine too many genres we have yet to discover for the tweeny-bopper audience.

tweeny- bopper- no no no no and if i did come to the US thats what they'd probably label me as , but anyways is just you can't get as big a deal and stuff with the music i'm bringing to the table

[Chris Fallon]

tweeny- bopper- no no no no and if i did come to the US thats what they'd probably label me as , but anyways is just you can't get as big a deal and stuff with the music i'm bringing to the table
Oh, I'll bet. Very serious business.

With all the recent bands getting signed (FTSK, Metro Station, The Cab, etc.), I'm pretty sure you can, too. America loves crap!

[lovely864md]

Oh, I'll bet. Very serious business.

With all the recent bands getting signed (FTSK, Metro Station, The Cab, etc.), I'm pretty sure you can, too. America loves crap!

You obviously don't understand what she's bringing to the table. She is an innovator. She will go down like Janis Joplin.

[alice+interiors]

my Mum works in one, and she says most of the residents are relatively happy, considering their conditions.
i dunno, might be a little different across the pond.

[Chris Fallon]

You obviously don't understand what she's bringing to the table. She is an innovator. She will go down like Janis Joplin.
It's just too complicated for me, she is right. We here in the states just ain't ready for her bombastic sounds of wonderment.

[AP_Punk]

my Mum works in one, and she says most of the residents are relatively happy, considering their conditions.
i dunno, might be a little different across the pond.

Hm interesting.

[alice+interiors]

Hm interesting.

always happy to help., lul

[AP_Punk]

i hope i die at a young age.

being really old doesn't look fun.

[swt_catastrophe]

i hope i die at a young age.

being really old doesn't look fun.
well that's always something to hope for, right?
errr..

[AP_Punk]

right on!

[x0sosahley]

I would never want to live in a home like that, my grandma lives in one and hates it.
Sadly, I'd prefer to die younger than an age that you would live in one of those places.

[AP_Punk]

Yesterday one of my friends lent me this book called EMS: The Job of Your Life. It's like a collection of stories/situations from an EMT worker and his co-workers. Really entertaining, interesting stuff in there. Especially the chapter titled "Nursing Home Nightmares". And also, "Sex Injuries".

Amazing.

[DaveZeroZero]

What do you mean you don't love the smell of boiled cabbage?

[4N6 science]

So I just checked into a senior citizen home and I've already broken 4 ladies hips.

[eHaMpToN]

smell.

And I don't think I'd want to be in one when I get really, really, old.

Discuss.

ill be sure to schiavo you

[DaveZeroZero]

So I just checked into a senior citizen home and I've already broken 4 ladies hips.
And I bet they thanked you for it, too.