Disappointments of 2003

[brandeispunk]

I know that people seem tired of the "Best of..." posts, so I figured I'd start a new one. Is there anything that people were seriously disappointed in this year? I know that I had a lot of things that I had really high expectations for, and just turned out to not meet them. OK, here goes. I'm sure this will be an unpopular post, but we'll see...

Also, I haven't read every post, but I don't think I saw anyone put NOFX's new CD in their "Best Of" list. Why?

OK, here goes with the disappointments...

5) Yellowcard/Brand New/Straylight Run/Jamisonparker - These bands, all lumped together, probably with others, basically comprise what I like to call the "overhyped" bands from this site. Not to say that any of these bands are bad, because they're not. I just think that there's way too much hype and not enough substance. Don't get me wrong, I really like some songs by these bands (Yellowcard's "Breathing" and Brand New's "Sic Transit Gloria..." especially), but I think that all these CDs aren't overly spectacular. Have fun with this one, I'm sure people won't like me bashing these bands. Ha.

4) Lucky Boys Confusion - Commitment - I felt that this CD did not AT ALL live up to the standard they had set on their previous albums. It was super poppy (not that going poppy is bad...), and fairly drab and uninteresting. It certainly has some high points (I love the song "Atari"), but for the most part, this CD is just sitting around not getting played.

3) Punk Goes Acoustic - There was SO much waiting for this CD. It was seemingly pushed back forever and when it finally came out, well, I can say it certainly was not worth the wait. There were of course its high points (Thrice's "Trust" and The Atari's song are both excellent), and there are its very not-high points, like many songs, where the singer seems to strain to reach the notes. I don't know. I guess I just expected more.

2) Blink-182 - Blink-182 - OK, I really wanted to make this my number 1 disappontment, but I figured the fallout from that would be too serious. Anyway, with that said, I really really do not like this album. Maybe it's because I didn't want Blink to change. Maybe it's because "Feeling This" reminds me too much of System of a Down's "Chop Suey" (OK, not really, but think about it. "I'm feeling this!" and "You wanted to!". Same thing...). Maybe it's because the songs are slow and deep and have meaning and are essentially the anti-Blink-182. Whatever it is, this CD certainly did not grow on me at all. I gave it a chance, I really did, and the more I listened, the more I didn't like it. I guess I just need the Blink-182 that sings fast songs about poop and boobs, and not the more "mature" band. Oh well.

1) Catch-22 - Dinosaur Sounds - OK, this really is my number one disappointment, not the Blink CD. I love Catch-22, and consider them one of the few ska bands that I can honestly still listen to and not get too bored with. The way that they (used to) combine ska with elements of punk and hardcore is just excellent, and I guess I'm a sucker from their music because they're basically from my backyard in Central NJ. I was really excited for this new album, because I haven't heard anything from them in a few years, and the last time I saw them live (I think last year) was incredible. Unfortunately, that all has disappeared on the new album. I knew that they lost their singer, but the band pulled off everything flawlessly live, so I figured that this new album would be more of the same. But. I was wrong. Gone is the "fast-talking" singing style, aggressive music, and hardcore elements that has made Catch-22 unique in a fairly generic ska scene. In its place is new singer(s) whose voices are mediocre at best (It's not a surprise then, that the best song on the CD is the instrumental at the end), boring and unoriginal music that can be stolen from any punk/emo cd released in the past 3 years, and basically a lack of the typicall Catch-22 aggression. However, I'm sure they still rock live, and I won't blatantly give up on them. (I had to end this on an up note, because after all, I'm not in the band, I'm just a fan, and what do they owe me?? Haha.). Also, with this said, if anyone is still longing for the old Catch-22, check out Streetlight Manifesto. Their CD rules, and they are just incredible live. The band has former members of Catch-22, and are very very impressive.

OK, so that's all. I look forward to reading some (probably angry) responses.

---Adam---

[lollirot]

Thursday - War All The Time

[review]

i respect you for not jacking off all over brand new/yellow card/straylight run/ jamison parker like everyone else on these forums do.

thanks for being honest

my disapointment of the year would have to be the movielife "40 hour train...) seriously, no one even talked about this record until the band broke up, it wasnt a very strong release. compaired to "its go time" this was crap.

fall out boy-
shut
the
fuck
up
im sick of everyone talking about how great you are like they discovered you. good pop punk but ive heard it before and im sick of it.

thanks

[cinderella]

the brand new cd was deffinetly a dissapointment... their show made up for it. even more of a dissapointment was that desaparecidos just dropped off the plea for peace tour and their record wont come out for a really long time

[MaybeOneDay]

Now, this is my opinion, and you can attempt to yell at me if you need to...but I think the only album released this year that got way more hype than it deserved, and was nowhere near as good as it was made out to be....is Thursday's new record, 'War All The Time'. Sure, theres a few tracks I like. And those are really strong songs. But for the most part, it just doesnt do much for me. But, that's just me.

As for you, Adam, being dissapointed with the Blink 182 album. That's fine. As long as you gave it an honest chance, and at least..tried to like it. It doesn't bother me when people give it an honest chance, and still can't get into it. It's the comments from other people saying it sucks simply because they've changed styles a bit..that's what gets me.

[jgirv17]

Originally posted by brandeispunk

1) Catch-22 - Dinosaur Sounds - OK, this really is my number one disappointment, not the Blink CD. I love Catch-22, and consider them one of the few ska bands that I can honestly still listen to and not get too bored with. The way that they (used to) combine ska with elements of punk and hardcore is just excellent, and I guess I'm a sucker from their music because they're basically from my backyard in Central NJ. I was really excited for this new album, because I haven't heard anything from them in a few years, and the last time I saw them live (I think last year) was incredible. Unfortunately, that all has disappeared on the new album. I knew that they lost their singer, but the band pulled off everything flawlessly live, so I figured that this new album would be more of the same. But. I was wrong. Gone is the "fast-talking" singing style, aggressive music, and hardcore elements that has made Catch-22 unique in a fairly generic ska scene. In its place is new singer(s) whose voices are mediocre at best (It's not a surprise then, that the best song on the CD is the instrumental at the end), boring and unoriginal music that can be stolen from any punk/emo cd released in the past 3 years, and basically a lack of the typicall Catch-22 aggression. However, I'm sure they still rock live, and I won't blatantly give up on them. (I had to end this on an up note, because after all, I'm not in the band, I'm just a fan, and what do they owe me?? Haha.). Also, with this said, if anyone is still longing for the old Catch-22, check out Streetlight Manifesto. Their CD rules, and they are just incredible live. The band has former members of Catch-22, and are very very impressive.


I couldn't agree more...while I like Dinosaur Sounds (they realize they no longer can pull off Old Catch 22, so they changed their style) it simply isn't as good as any of their past releases. Add on to that the fact that the cd is a disappointing 30 minutes long, and it equals a pretty big let down. I'm still a Catch 22 fan (I just saw them on Dec 27th for like the 6th time) but they have definitely slipped in my book.

Streetlight Manifesto is exactly how I wish Catch 22 would sound today had they not gone through so many changes. I don't know if you've heard of Bandits Of The Acoustic Revolution before, but if not, I definitely suggest checking them out. It's the guys from SM and about 6 other people in a huge acoustic band. They play some amazing stuff. their site is www.acousticbandits.com (http://www.acousticbandits.com)

[mwhpunk]

Originally posted by brandeispunk


3) Punk Goes Acoustic - There was SO much waiting for this CD. It was seemingly pushed back forever and when it finally came out, well, I can say it certainly was not worth the wait. There were of course its high points (Thrice's "Trust" and The Atari's song are both excellent), and there are its very not-high points, like many songs, where the singer seems to strain to reach the notes. I don't know. I guess I just expected more.

2) Blink-182 - Blink-182 - OK, I really wanted to make this my number 1 disappontment, but I figured the fallout from that would be too serious. Anyway, with that said, I really really do not like this album. Maybe it's because I didn't want Blink to change. Maybe it's because "Feeling This" reminds me too much of System of a Down's "Chop Suey" (OK, not really, but think about it. "I'm feeling this!" and "You wanted to!". Same thing...). Maybe it's because the songs are slow and deep and have meaning and are essentially the anti-Blink-182. Whatever it is, this CD certainly did not grow on me at all. I gave it a chance, I really did, and the more I listened, the more I didn't like it. I guess I just need the Blink-182 that sings fast songs about poop and boobs, and not the more "mature" band. Oh well.



I'll agree w/ the Punk Goes Acoustic... it was so hyped up and I was disapointed... but I loved the blink album and still do.

[MaybeOneDay]

Originally posted by mwhpunk
I'll agree w/ the Punk Goes Acoustic... it was so hyped up and I was disapointed... but I loved the blink album and still do.

Yeah, same goes for me.

[varock]

I really love the blink and thursday albums. they exceeded my expectations and were among my favorite albums of the year. i also love the movielife cd and i never skip any tracks when i listen to it. the most disappointing CD for me would have to be from rancid. they seem to get worse and worse with every release.

[thexflamesxburn]

i absolutely despise the new blink182

[angie710]

While 311 is my favorite band, I was slightly dissapointed in their latest album "Evolver" ... Maybe I'm just looking for them to create an updated version of the Blue Album or Grassroots, but I was a little uncomfortable with their sound on this album...

On a side note, anything that RATM has done in these past few years is also dissapointing...

Thank You...
:D

[richter915]

ya, blink 182 was the biggest disappointment for this year, the past few years, and many years to come...I agree with the original poster...this new "mature" style doesn't work for me...really doesn't.

[13th hour]

Originally posted by varock
the most disappointing CD for me would have to be from rancid. they seem to get worse and worse with every release.


Wrong. 2000 is the best punk album of the last 10 years, and I dont give a fuck how many people disagree with me on that. I dont think Indestructible was as good as some of their other stuff, but theyve gotten older, theyre staying true to who they are, theyre not scrappy 20 year old punks anymore, theyre in their 30s, and their lives were falling apart when they wrote that album. I wasnt disappointed, but I agree that it wasnt their best.

[beenbrokenx]

i have to say that there is definitely alot of hype over brand new/jamisonparker/yellowcard, even though i happen to like all the bands. But, i think when bands put out something that is either different than what they had produced prior to the cd, or they are the "new thing", they tend to get more exposure than others. Straylight Run can be clumped into that group too...but, again, I like ALL the bands, brand new is one of my favorites, but i dont believe in overhype.

i like blink182's new cd... its fun.


biggest disappointment of 2003: ticketbastard's outrageous prices lol


xo
jb

[mwhpunk]

Originally posted by thexflamesxburn
i absolutely despise the new blink182

i absolutely despise you

[varock]

Originally posted by 13th hour
Wrong. 2000 is the best punk album of the last 10 years, and I dont give a fuck how many people disagree with me on that. I dont think Indestructible was as good as some of their other stuff, but theyve gotten older, theyre staying true to who they are, theyre not scrappy 20 year old punks anymore, theyre in their 30s, and their lives were falling apart when they wrote that album. I wasnt disappointed, but I agree that it wasnt their best. well, that's the thing about opinions, you can't be wrong. oh, and i STRONGLY disagree that 2000 is the best punk album of the last 10 years.

[yeAA]

Originally posted by review
i respect you for not jacking off all over brand new/yellow card/straylight run/ jamison parker like everyone else on these forums do.

thanks for being honest

my disapointment of the year would have to be the movielife "40 hour train...) seriously, no one even talked about this record until the band broke up, it wasnt a very strong release. compaired to "its go time" this was crap.



i had to go to like 4 different stores to find the CD... but i think the CD is awesome.... its sad though that they broke up...

[yeAA]

Originally posted by angie710
While 311 is my favorite band, I was slightly dissapointed in their latest album "Evolver" ... Maybe I'm just looking for them to create an updated version of the Blue Album or Grassroots, but I was a little uncomfortable with their sound on this album...


i agree with you on the 311 album. from chaos, to me, kicked ass and i was expecting elvolver to as well... but i listen to it like twice, and i just couldnt get into it

[notxemoxdreamo]

I can't believe you guys were expecting anything more than a cookie cutter performance from any of these bands listed...

[mwhpunk]

i was sad b/c avril lavigne didn't wreck her car into good charlotte and simple plan and die in a blazing inferno!:embarasse :cry:



p.s.... i really don't want anyone to die.. i just dislike them a lot

[takingbackrufio]

I disagree on several of those points, but I'll leave it at that, there's not point in even arguing about this at all. You make valid points tho ...

After Yellowcard's 'One for the Kids' I knew they would never match it, so my expectations weren't very high for Ocean Avenue. Brand New definetly isn't my favourite band, and although their latest album was quite good, I think that Your Favourite Weapon was much better. The new Blink album was definetly an impression of how much range this band can work with. Punk Goes Acoustic wasn't as good as we all thought it would be because the acoustic versions of songs had lost its edge by then, and they were somewhat boring because of it ... when acoustic punk first became 'popular' among bands we love, it was cool ... but then it just went downhill from there, it was something that couldn't last a very long time.

Meh, that's life.

[mwhpunk]

Originally posted by takingbackrufio
Meh, that's life.

Canadians don't say "meh". They say "ehhhh". Silly Canadian...

[FallingOut]

Back on the subject, I thought the biggest disappointment was definitely Dashboard Confessional's new cd. I just dont think it has the emotion that other cds have.

[takingbackrufio]

Originally posted by mwhpunk
Canadians don't say "meh". They say "ehhhh". Silly Canadian... Meh.

Eh?

[kornintee]

first off you say that brand new is not good... you shouldnt be judging anything involving music. second i was very dissipointed with war all the time, bummer thursday.

[dontlookdown]

Like someone said before the movielife cd was very disappointing. I thought it wasn't even close to being as good as "This Time Next Year" which is one of my favorite cd's ever. It does suck that they broke up but it's even shittier that they went out with an average cd. They might as well have broken up after this time next year.

[punkrokbassist]

the biggest damn dissapointment to me was the new fucking ataris cd, what the hell?

[halfpricepizza]

I agree with the ataris, dashboard, and yellowcard. Although Ataris came out with one of my favorite songs of the year (So Long Astoria) the rest of the album seemed bland. songs 6-8 seemed very reminiscenet of one another and seemed like filler. dashboard was definitely crap. sheesh, i wish i didn't buy that. yellowcard was good, but definitely not grounbreaking or as special as this website makes it out to be. pop-punk w/ a violin. that's it. nothing amazing. good summer album. won't get me through tough times.

[punkrokbassist]

i never really liked dashboard, and i agree about the yellow card thing, their good but not all that special.

[blacksails001]

Originally posted by thexflamesxburn
i absolutely despise the new blink182

Totally agreed. They give such a bad name to punk music. :)

[turtlefootrx]

my biggest dissappointment was the ataris by far. their sound changed way too much and much more dramatical. ive been an ataris fan for years. anywhere but here/blue skies/even end is forever are all much better cds than so long astoria. and they kept assuring everyone they werent gonna change...i lost a bit of respect for them after this album.

the movielifes latest/last was a damn good album in my opinion. you just have to be more open to the idea of a different sound from them maybe. while my favorite movielife song is by far 'once in a row', songs like jamestown, or scary of the new cd are damn good too..

and with that im spent...

[KarolaBloch]

major dissappointments. hmm i would say the early november.. they are awesome but i liked for all of this 10 times more than the rooms too cold. i liked the more rock like music in the ep.
also i'd say from autumn to ashes. their first CD was madd good. and the new one is jsut ok.
and last but not least rufio, 1985 is just nothing compared to perhaps i suppose. 1985 is not as well put together and i don't like the recording of scotts voice. and i also find a lot of the songs repeditive. but i still love rufio.

[NoHopeTHRs1]

Well...Gatsby's American Dream...wasn't what I expected it to be...:dissapoin

[review]

Originally posted by kornintee
first off you say that brand new is not good... you shouldnt be judging anything involving music. second i was very dissipointed with war all the time, bummer thursday.

says the person with the thrice avatar..........

[blacksails001]

Originally posted by Saosinsam
major dissappointments. hmm i would say the early november.. they are awesome but i liked for all of this 10 times more than the rooms too cold. i liked the more rock like music in the ep.
also i'd say from autumn to ashes. their first CD was madd good. and the new one is jsut ok.
and last but not least rufio, 1985 is just nothing compared to perhaps i suppose. 1985 is not as well put together and i don't like the recording of scotts voice. and i also find a lot of the songs repeditive. but i still love rufio.

Totally agreed. Early Nov. was such a big dissapointment, their ep is 100 times better.

[BuriedAlive]

brand new was a disappointment but i dont like them in the first place

thrice was a disappointment and i dont like them either.

both of these bands suck but i was hoping i could get something i liked

matchbook romance was another one of the biggest disappointments.

[piebaldkid42]

rufio.

[BuriedAlive]

Originally posted by piebaldkid42
rufio.

haha it was. their first cd was actually descent but their newest one sucked beyong comparison

[kevin]

Thursday - War All The Time

I really don't like Thursday, but after hearing 'Jet Black New Year' my expecations for this album were high. It's funny how the best song they have recorded is on a bullshit EP.

[punkrokbassist]

Originally posted by turtlefootrx
my biggest dissappointment was the ataris by far. their sound changed way too much and much more dramatical.


truer words were never spokenand from what ive heard, they aint changing back. something about some guy going to kill himself until he heard "so long astoria" and now they wanna make music that people will listen to on their death beds and say "eh, never mind" so now melow dramatic music from the ataris, but im sure a well placed kick to the nuts will change their minds:evil:

[notxemoxdreamo]

I was disappointed that the genre of screamo (neé pop-punk) didn't implode and cease to exist...

[voncorn]

Thursday - War All The Time

Couldn't agree more.

[AP_Punk]

chuckle out loud

[aolsux]

goddamn this thread is about as old as I have been on these boards

[Machu505]

Some of the things said in this thread lol-worthy.

[lindZ629]

Everyone in this thread is awesome.

[zubinmoosa]

lol at the first post (and many afterwards)

[thehereaway]

Wow, this is really old

"Feeling This" reminds me too much of System of a Down's "Chop Suey" (OK, not really, but think about it. "I'm feeling this!" and "You wanted to!". Same thing...)

Hahahahahahahaha

[billyboatkid]

Man old school thread is old.

[DejaNew]

Wow. Really shows the difference in opinions from then until now.

[bluecrunchy]

I still agree with most of what was said in this thread.

[selftitled85]

goddamn this thread is about as old as I have been on these boards

You are alive??

And it is quite sad when a number of these people have not posted in years and you still remember their names.

IE: 13th Hour, Paul.

[allisterkid]

Can anyone tell me whatever happened to that thread, "Albums that were huge disappointments" from last week? It was gone and it said I was quoted in it but it was gone.

[weworemasks]

god damn 03. the year i signed up for ap.

[thespearkid]

I didn't even really listen to music in 2003.

[Domenic182]

Is the OP Mark's alt username?

[Saves The Night]

did anyone say Saves the Day's In Reverie yet? come on! I know there are haters in here!

I think it was a great album though.

[Drew Beringer]

play poker

[TheSkyline]

YA BLINK 192 OR WHATEVER AND BRAND NEW SUCK

x

edit: Holy old thread batman!

[Saves The Night]

I really loved war all the time by thurday...i thought their new album this year was a disappointment.

[Saves The Night]

Ya Blink 192 Or Whatever And Brand New Suckhahahaha

I think anyone who can honestly say brand new is no good are merely lying to themselves...probably because jesse slept with your girlfriend or something.

[doomcrs04]

I love both the movielife and thursday albums.

[Drew Beringer]

hahahaha

I think anyone who can honestly say brand new is no good are merely lying to themselves...probably because jesse slept with your girlfriend or something.
I think Brand New is good, I just don't treat them like a deity like some here do.

[thespearkid]

hahahaha

I think anyone who can honestly say brand new is no good are merely lying to themselves...probably because jesse slept with your girlfriend or something.
Option #2: Some people look for things in music that Jesse Lacey simply doesn't have. I dig Brand New but their lyrics are weak. I can see someone not liking them for that reason.

[WakingTheMisery]

From Autumn to Ashes- The Fiction We Live

Aside from that, I don't remember 2003.

[FeynmanWannabe]

Story of the Year - Page Avenue
Yellow Card - Ocean Avenue

[matt_rawlings]

JamisonParker fucking suck so much ass.

It is literally bottle of the barrel emo, with some truly laugh out loud lyrics imo

[Mirrorsandfevers]

JamisonParker fucking suck so much ass.

It is literally bottle of the barrel emo, with some truly laugh out loud lyrics imo
I really enjoy that album :shrug:

I think it's hilarious on how someone calls someone else out on listening to Thrice and comparing Brand New. Funny how things change.

[selftitled85]

I really enjoy that album :shrug:

I think it's hilarious on how someone calls someone else out on listening to Thrice and comparing Brand New. Funny how things change.

I love Thrice and will gladly say that they are better than BN. BN had one stellar album, one good album, and one meh album. Thrice has three stellar albums and a few ok albums.

[TheDemosRock]

why do people bump these ancient threads?

edit: I really really enjoy the releases from Yellowcard, Brand New, and Straylight Run from 2003.. I don't kow what the OP was thinking