The wannabe screamo bands suck

[shetpisfock]

as in matchbook romance as in senses fail as "hidden in plain view" . These bands are terrible. Im tired of all these bands that are just clones of Thursday or what have you, and theres like a million now, great. Drivethru is such a trend whore label, picking up another crappy wannabe band like hidden in plain view. Drive thru is a joke. These bands are jokes.

[Touched]

Do you actually know what Screamo is?

[FalloutGuy]

Originally posted by Touched
Do you actually know what Screamo is?

[MaybeOneDay]

Originally posted by Touched
Do you actually know what Screamo is?

[shetpisfock]

Originally posted by Touched
Do you actually know what Screamo is?

yes

[BanMe]

Originally posted by shetpisfock
as in matchbook romance as in senses fail as "hidden in plain view" . These bands are terrible. Im tired of all these bands that are just clones of Thursday or what have you, and theres like a million now, great. Drivethru is such a trend whore label, picking up another crappy wannabe band like hidden in plain view. Drive thru is a joke. These bands are jokes.

So true. If I hear one more whiny band with pro-tooled screams, well..I'm going to scream, and there won't be any bland, inoffensive music in the background. Want screamo? Check out some of the bands on Level Plane.

[pUnkKid174]

yes
no, i dont think so...you have no idea what you are even talking about...

[Touched]

Woah, I feel so powerful. :) :p But yea you have no idea mate.

[indie_child]

So sad, you have no idea what you are talking about.

[still_life]

Matchbook Romance and Hidden In Plain View are terrible bands.

[safehouse]

I can understand that you may not have a favor for those particular bands, but I must say how cliche it is for the "all-knowing anything in the rock genre" to go about acting like their opinion is the only validation needed to persuade people that this "truely" is a terrible band that "copies" other band styles. Serioiusly... I think there are a lot of up and coming bands that were heavily influenced by the sounds of Thursday... so doesn't it make sense that their music would reflect that of the genre they are interested in?

[AlwaysPunkin45]

Originally posted by shetpisfock
as in matchbook romance as in senses fail as "hidden in plain view" . These bands are terrible. Im tired of all these bands that are just clones of Thursday or what have you, and theres like a million now, great. Drivethru is such a trend whore label, picking up another crappy wannabe band like hidden in plain view. Drive thru is a joke. These bands are jokes. hidden in plain view and matchbook romance aren't screamo at all, I don't listen to Senses Fail and I forgot what they sounded like..

[takingbackrufio]

Screamo? :rolleyes:

Labelling bands isn't for me, so I won't even go into this one.

[Lueda Alia]

Originally posted by takingbackrufio
Screamo? :rolleyes:

Labelling bands isn't for me, so I won't even go into this one.


haha same here, I hate labelling bands.

[danasaur]

Originally posted by shetpisfock
as in matchbook romance as in senses fail as "hidden in plain view" . These bands are terrible. Im tired of all these bands that are just clones of Thursday or what have you, and theres like a million now, great. Drivethru is such a trend whore label, picking up another crappy wannabe band like hidden in plain view. Drive thru is a joke. These bands are jokes.

ahhh, yesss, hipv sucks and so many people around where i live fucking loovve hipv i saw them live, and no dice my friend no dice. senses fail also is no good. *sigh

[shetpisfock]

Originally posted by pUnkKid174
no, i dont think so...you have no idea what you are even talking about...

thrice sucks "punkkid", damn

[shetpisfock]

if you can listen to hipv and say that they are not trying to rip off thursday your a dumbass. Same for senses fail. Its pathetic. I consider thursday screamo , and this hidden in plain view garbage sounds like new thursday to me.

[takingbackrufio]

Originally posted by shetpisfock
thrice sucks "punkkid", damn Thrice is fucking amazing, better than you and your band will ever be, if you even have one. Shutup.

[BanMe]

Originally posted by takingbackrufio
Thrice is fucking amazing, better than you and your band will ever be, if you even have one. Shutup.

This is a poor argument, any music fan has the right to criticize a band, not just those in bands themselves. When an artist submits songs to the public they take the good with bad, it's part of being a musician. That said, I don't have a problem with Thrice, but if that person thinks they suck, he has every right to say they suck.

[RefusedsXe]

1.Thats not screamo
2.Those bands dont sound like Thursday.

[takingbackrufio]

Originally posted by BanMe
This is a poor argument, any music fan has the right to criticize a band, not just those in bands themselves. When an artist submits songs to the public they take the good with bad, it's part of being a musician. That said, I don't have a problem with Thrice, but if that person thinks they suck, he has every right to say they suck. I was stating my opinion as well.

I also said a true fact, like Thrice is better than him and his band (if he has one) will ever be.

[Throwback]

Senses Fail, The Early November, and Hidden In Plain View all sound the same. Same nasally horrible voice. It's a shame they all sound exactly alike, since they blow.

[blacksails001]

Originally posted by Touched
Do you actually know what Screamo is?

Yeah, i agree with you. Matchbook Romance and Senses Fail aren't trying to be screamo at all. Just because they might have a little screaming in the background doesn't make them screamo.
Linkin Park has screaming in the background of some of their songs and they aren't nor are they trying to be screamo. A totally solid screamo band is A Static Lullaby. Check them out if you really want to know what screamo is. :)

[burntomorrow]

i think pretty much anyone who uses the genre 'screamo' is a brain cell away from braindead.


listen, we already know your music is eighteen times cooler. and we know you assume we all listen to the music you trash. but my dear, if you find yourself innovative in doing so, you are living a sad tragic existence.

for once i'd like to see someone say something that hasn't been said fifteen million times before.

[still_life]

Originally posted by blacksails001
Yeah, i agree with you. Matchbook Romance and Senses Fail aren't trying to be screamo at all. Just because they might have a little screaming in the background doesn't make them screamo.
Linkin Park has screaming in the background of some of their songs and they aren't nor are they trying to be screamo. A totally solid screamo band is A Static Lullaby. Check them out if you really want to know what screamo is. :)

ASL has nothing to do with screamo. Don't listen to this idiot.

[burntomorrow]

Originally posted by still_life
ASL has nothing to do with screamo. Don't listen to this idiot.

man i didn't even read that far.

ASL a solid screamo band? now see that was past the point of ridiculous.

[BanMe]

Originally posted by takingbackrufio
I was stating my opinion as well.

I also said a true fact, like Thrice is better than him and his band (if he has one) will ever be.

That's not a fact, he could start your new favorite band somewhere along the line, for all you know. The point is, discounting someone's opinion that way is stupid.

[takingbackrufio]

Originally posted by BanMe
That's not a fact, he could start your new favorite band somewhere along the line, for all you know. The point is, discounting someone's opinion that way is stupid. Your first point, there is about a one in billion chance this will ever happen. Your second point, I am not stupid. I was stating my opinion on somebody that thought Thrice sucked, just like your opinion on me is that I'm stupid because I made that opinion in the first place. If this place were all fun, joy, and agreement, they're be no point and it'd be no fun. To say Thrice sucks is wrong, that's what you don't understand. He could say he doesn't like Thrice, and I would've been fine by that. But to say they suck isn't fair at all, my friend, considering they have worked their whole life on their instruments and their music to gain the talent they have now. Therefore, they do not suck.

[BanMe]

I never called you stupid, I said it was a stupid argument.

Also, saying a band sucks doesn't always mean you don't find them talented, it could mean you just don't enjoy their music. Take Kenny G for example, talented musician, but I think his music sucks.

My point is saying "they're better than your band" doesn't refute any of his statements, it's a weak argument. You could argue about Thrice's technical ability or any number of things, but you chose to attack something that has nothing to do with his opinion or statement.

[shetpisfock]

my band is better than thrice
In my opinion ;)

listen i didnt mean to insite some huge debate here, i was simply stateing my opinion.

[AgentEM0]

Ok Thursday is one of the greatest bands out right now and if you haven't noticed there is a lot of musical impact on bands yet to come such as Matchbook Romance. But to consider them a screamo band is just idiotic. Like Elvis was a major musical impact to most everyone even if you don't realize it his music branched out and became what music is like today. Bands are influenced by greater bands that they might like.

[KarolaBloch]

right on, lableing is for food cans. you can't lable bands cause who said senses fail and matchbook said " we are screamo thats what we are" they didn't. and matchbook romance screams like one time a song. and hidden in plain view isn't bad. i like them a lot.

[RefusedsXe]

lol @ some of the posts on here, Senses Fail, ASL, Matchbook Romance being screamo....

[takingbackrufio]

Originally posted by RefusedsXe
lol @ some of the posts on here, Senses Fail, ASL, Matchbook Romance being screamo.... It wouldn't be a problem if bands weren't labelled so often.

[pepethegaywaite]

Originally posted by BanMe
So true. If I hear one more whiny band with pro-tooled screams, well..I'm going to scream, and there won't be any bland, inoffensive music in the background. Want screamo? Check out some of the bands on Level Plane.
yes level plane...

[pUnkKid174]

now i know that takingbackrufio really does know how to bring up a fight eh...good to know too

Your first point, there is about a one in billion chance this will ever happen. Your second point, I am not stupid. I was stating my opinion on somebody that thought Thrice sucked, just like your opinion on me is that I'm stupid because I made that opinion in the first place. If this place were all fun, joy, and agreement, they're be no point and it'd be no fun. To say Thrice sucks is wrong, that's what you don't understand. He could say he doesn't like Thrice, and I would've been fine by that. But to say they suck isn't fair at all, my friend, considering they have worked their whole life on their instruments and their music to gain the talent they have now. Therefore, they do not suck.
you're right...there really isnt a big chance that it would happen and he isnt stupid at all...and to shetpisfock, how do we know that you're not stupid eh? thrice is an amazing band that could have a small possibility in there being a better band for a long time, and they have worked their whole life on their music to reach what they are now...and if you can just say that they suck directly to me like i'm the only one that said something like that then you really dont need to be posting on this thread...if you dont like them that much then dont spend your time reading threads about them...and they might as well be better than your own band since you cant respect other bands work and say that you dont like them

[shetpisfock]

Originally posted by pUnkKid174
if you can just say that they suck directly to me like i'm the only one that said something like that then you really dont need to be posting on this thread...if you dont like them that much then dont spend your time reading threads about them...and they might as well be better than your own band since you cant respect other bands work and say that you dont like them

lol at that...
its my thread

and i think thrice are talented you need to chill out, let be correct then,

" I don't care much for Thrice, hope I do not upset anyone by saying this."

And just because a band plays together for years, doesnt make them necessarily a better band, or increase their chances of making it big.

[pUnkKid174]

lol at that...
its my thread

and i think thrice are talented you need to chill out, let be correct then,

" I don't care much for Thrice, hope I do not upset anyone by saying this."

And just because a band plays together for years, doesnt make them necessarily a better band, or increase their chances of making it big.
sorry...didnt mean it in that kind of way...wasnt trying to be mean but that is just my opinion about bands that play longer and get better and better the longer they play....

[Used]

This thred is pathetic. You can't tell someone what a genre of punk is to them, because it means so many things to so many different people. And as far as telling a band that they are "not screamo" or a wannabe of another band THAT CAME OUT AS THE SAME TIME AS THEM then you are an idiot. Screamo is, for the most part, emo with screaming.. IF THEY SING EMO AND SCREAM THEN THEY ARE PROBABLY SCREAMO.

[still_life]

This thred is pathetic. You can't tell someone what a genre of punk is to them, because it means so many things to so many different people. And as far as telling a band that they are "not screamo" or a wannabe of another band THAT CAME OUT AS THE SAME TIME AS THEM then you are an idiot. Screamo is, for the most part, emo with screaming.. IF THEY SING EMO AND SCREAM THEN THEY ARE PROBABLY SCREAMO.

Emo is screamo dumbass. All emo has screaming in it already.

[Used]

Emo isn't screamo... screamo is emo with screaming.. dashboard has no screaming... oh neither does weezer.. what's that?? neither does straylight run... the list goes on. hmmm what are those bands then?

[still_life]

Emo isn't screamo... screamo is emo with screaming.. dashboard has no screaming... oh neither does weezer.. what's that?? neither does straylight run... the list goes on. hmmm what are those bands then?

Pfft...someone doesn't know what they're talking about. Dashboard, Weezer, Straylight Run emo? HAHA, yeah right. Emo is a hardcore genre. If you've ever heard of Rites Of Spring, you would agree. That's where emo started. It has nothing to do with the bands you mentioned. How can Dashboard be emo when all it really is (the good DC) is acoustic guitar and singing? It's acoustic rock. Weezer is power-pop or whatever the hell you want to call that style. They're not a hardcore band. Straylight Run is just a variation of pop-punk with piano.

[Used]

Uh yeah I know that "emo " is a "hardcore" genre... but it has obviously evovlved into this "acoustic rock" because EMO is EMOTIONAL PUNK. And incase you hadn't noticed anytime that "emo" is brought up... DC is the first thing that people think of. I know it's hard for you to accept, but it's true. "Emo" is now mainstream because of bands like DC.

[Used]

And one more thing.. I believe the first thing I said in this thread was that you can't tell someone that a genre of music is this this and this.. because it means different things to different people.. simple as that. So I think we are done here.

[still_life]

Uh yeah I know that "emo " is a "hardcore" genre... but it has obviously evovlved into this "acoustic rock" because EMO is EMOTIONAL PUNK. And incase you hadn't noticed anytime that "emo" is brought up... DC is the first thing that people think of. I know it's hard for you to accept, but it's true. "Emo" is now mainstream because of bands like DC.

No, you don't understand at all. If emo is hardcore (which it damn well is), then how is it going to change the main genre it came from because MTV and Seventeen magazine says so? It's not. They don't know what the hell they're talking about. Genres and sub-genres exist because bands have things in common with bands in those genres. DC has nothing to do with any emo band ever. And no, it doesn't mean emotional punk, it means emotional hardcore, because emo is the same thing as emocore (and emocore was the word used when emo started as some fan blurted it out at an Embrace show). Genres evolve, but they always evolve into sounds that have something in common with that genre. For an example, what you're trying to say is like saying that a new type of corn can be considered a fruit instead of a vegetable. That just doesn't make any sense. Emo isn't mainstream. I don't think it ever will be because most bands don't have an accessible sound. The word screamo was created because of the media when they started to confuse emo with stuff like Sunny Day Real Estate (it was because SDRE used a lot of the slow-loud dynamics and some octave chords, so people questioned if that was emo, but they were just an indie rock band that was influenced by emo, on their first two albums at least). And of course, now screamo is being fucked over by the media since they've attatched that word to bands like The Used and Thursday, who don't have anything to do with it. Why do you think Thursday gets mad when people associate them with emo? Because they know what it is (they cite You And I as an influence) and they know they don't play it.

[still_life]

And one more thing.. I believe the first thing I said in this thread was that you can't tell someone that a genre of music is this this and this.. because it means different things to different people.. simple as that. So I think we are done here.

No, you just don't get it. Someone can't call Metallica a "mix of salsa and jazz" because that's what they think those genres are. Genres exist because of factual information involving the sound certain bands produce. You just can't break barriers because of your "perception". Do some research. You're confused.

[BanMe]

Emo isn't screamo... screamo is emo with screaming.. dashboard has no screaming... oh neither does weezer.. what's that?? neither does straylight run... the list goes on. hmmm what are those bands then?

Dashboard is acoustic rock

Weezer is pretty much just a rock band

I'm not sure what I'd call Straylight Run, but it wouldn't be emo.

[takingbackrufio]

Dashboard is acoustic rock

Weezer is pretty much just a rock band

I'm not sure what I'd call Straylight Run, but it wouldn't be emo.

Piano-driven rock?

[BanMe]

Piano-driven rock?

Fair enough.

[shetpisfock]

emo has evoloved from its Hardcore roots.Period. That happens in music. SDRE is one of the bands that really made this genre of music something different than it started as. Music is what you wanna call it but i dont have a problem with calling a lot of this new stuff emo-rock, emo-punk etc.

[XxLoserDanxX]

fuck that, matchbook romance is amazing.

[pUnkKid174]

Emo is screamo dumbass. All emo has screaming in it already.

i got lost a long time ago then....

[takingbackrufio]

Fair enough.
All I know is that Straylight Run's base is the piano.

I listen to alot of their demos, can't wait for the full-length.

[still_life]

emo has evoloved from its Hardcore roots.Period. That happens in music. SDRE is one of the bands that really made this genre of music something different than it started as. Music is what you wanna call it but i dont have a problem with calling a lot of this new stuff emo-rock, emo-punk etc.

No it hasn't evolved into bands like SDRE. Newer emo bands include On The Might Of Princes, City Of Caterpillar, Off Minor, Hot Cross, The Now, La Quiete, Danse Macabre, Circle Takes The Square, Impure Wilhelmia, Transistor Transistor, Light The Fuse And Run, Racebannon, Mara'akate, etc.

[BanMe]

Danse Macabre is crazy.

And still_life is right, you can't just throw stuff into genres, genres are there for a reason.

[shetpisfock]

genre's are there so people can bitch to each other about it

[BanMe]

Genres make it easier to describe a band to someone, if I'm talking about Ensign to a friend of mine, I'm going to say "Yeah, they're a hardcore band" I'm not going to get into every facet of their music.

[shetpisfock]

but we've created far to many sub-genre of sub-genres to where people practically make them up day to day. I describe bands to many friends by naming another band(s) that they sound influenced by.

[kevin]

Off Minor is pretty killer. If only Saetia was still together.

[towhatend]

And one more thing.. I believe the first thing I said in this thread was that you can't tell someone that a genre of music is this this and this.. because it means different things to different people.. simple as that. So I think we are done here.

...idiot?

[pepethegaywaite]

stop arguing about it and go to LEVEL-PLANE.com and listen what REAL "screamo" is about...

[RefusedsXe]

Heh a lot of this thread is pathetic, Im getting some good laughs.

[shetpisfock]

Heh a lot of this thread is pathetic, Im getting some good laughs.

heh, people have varying opinions....