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AtTheDriveIn.
01/04/04, 09:54 AM
I haven't been here in like 8354 years. so I decided to drop in.
hey.
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 10:01 AM
Hey! Holy shit, it's been so long since i've seen you.
Just to warn you, i'm one of the only remaining people here that you would know from way back. The rest of them are at www.knifeparty.com/forums instead. But it's nice to see you around. Remember me ?
AtTheDriveIn.
01/04/04, 10:02 AM
yes i remember you. you and like fish and thats it.
so whats this knife party place that everyone went to??
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 10:05 AM
Fish doesn't even come here anymore. Heh, he's just a mod for no apparent reason.
As for knifeparty. Well, i'm sure you know Bill (pweredbyboredom). He started the website www.knifeparty.com and basically all the old AP regulars went over there. It's another site like AP, an online zine, but they like it much better. I'm still all for AP, but check it out if you want.
That's pretty much it.
Don Socrates
01/04/04, 10:10 AM
I'm kind of curious about "KnifeParty" also. Yesterday I had two people tell me I should post there. Whats the difference between the two sites?
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 11:04 AM
Absolute Punk is way better than Knife Party, all Knife Party is is the first bunch of AP assholes. It's better here, trust me, unless you have a grudge against Tate, then you'll get along just fine with the bunch that float around there.
Unopened Letter
01/04/04, 11:05 AM
we've missed you. Yes, you have been very much missed.
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by Don Socrates
I'm kind of curious about "KnifeParty" also. Yesterday I had two people tell me I should post there. Whats the difference between the two sites?
Yah, I reccomend staying at AP. People at KP will jump down your throat for the smallest little comments. The majority of them are major hypocrites.
As for whats different. Nothing really. Most of them are into more indie rock and that kind of stuff, and hold a strong grudge against the webmaster of AP. Just to inform you, the two people who told you to post at KnifeParty were one regular there, and one person who co-owns the site.
In my honest opinion, and ive been at both sites for a while, AP is much better. KP is just another online zine site, with a forum holding all the old AP regulars (excluding me) who decided they were too good for AP now and wanted to make their own site.
But, choose the site you wish.
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by MaybeOneDay
Yah, I reccomend staying at AP. People at KP will jump down your throat for the smallest little comments. The majority of them are major hypocrites.
As for whats different. Nothing really. Most of them are into more indie rock and that kind of stuff, and hold a strong grudge against the webmaster of AP. Just to inform you, the two people who told you to post at KnifeParty were one regular there, and one person who co-owns the site.
In my honest opinion, and ive been at both sites for a while, AP is much better. KP is just another online zine site, with a forum holding all the old AP regulars (excluding me) who decided they were too good for AP now and wanted to make their own site.
But, choose the site you wish. Brandon speaks the truth, there's a whole bunch of indie kids over there, so be expecting to get bitched at. Angie's over there sometimes too, Brandon. I go there sometimes, I've gotten a couple messages over MSN for some songs that I've recommended.
FarPastGone
01/04/04, 11:12 AM
I've gone to KnifeParty before it sucks ass...
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by FarPastGone
I've gone to KnifeParty before it sucks ass...
haha. there's nothing like speaking your mind. you'll do well here.
yeah, trent. i've seen you and andrea over there before. it's not 100% bad, but, for the most part i don't like it.
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 11:18 AM
They hold the longest fucking grudges over there ... I remember one time, Brandon, when they were getting pissed at you because you joined under a name, then pissed them off, and then joined under a different name to cover it up. Sometime, Everything matters to them too much.
i prefer AP forums just cause I'm too lazy to go to any other music forum...but I wish those old members would come back and post in AP once in a while. anyways, welcome back atthedrivein
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by varock
i prefer AP forums just cause I'm too lazy to go to any other music forum...but I wish those old members would come back and post in AP once in a while. anyways, welcome back atthedrivein It's almost as hard to keep up with the posts there as it is here. People are posting like every 5 seconds sometimes. It get confusing, unless you know what you're doing, which I do, but at first it can get confusing, here I'm beginning to be pro at timing. That's right, I feel proud.
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by takingbackrufio
They hold the longest fucking grudges over there ... I remember one time, Brandon, when they were getting pissed at you because you joined under a name, then pissed them off, and then joined under a different name to cover it up. Sometime, Everything matters to them too much.
Yeah, I know what you're talking about. They're idiots. It's all good, no more KP. At least not regularily, anyways.
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by MaybeOneDay
Yeah, I know what you're talking about. They're idiots. It's all good, no more KP. At least not regularily, anyways. Yeh, if Indie was in my good books, then I might have a little more respect for it. But the only 'indie' band I listen to is Death Cab, and Brand New, who has the slightest bit of Indie in their music. Hardly any, but some.
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by takingbackrufio
Yeh, if Indie was in my good books, then I might have a little more respect for it. But the only 'indie' band I listen to is Death Cab, and Brand New, who has the slightest bit of Indie in their music. Hardly any, but some.
Yeah man, I hear ya. Same goes for me. It might interest me more if I liked that kind of stuff. But, the only indie band that I listen to (if it's even indie, I have no idea) is Cursive.
FarPastGone
01/04/04, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by MaybeOneDay
haha. there's nothing like speaking your mind. you'll do well here.
Sweet.....yeah everyone here is pretty cool too...
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by FarPastGone
Sweet.....yeah everyone here is pretty cool too...
Uh huh.
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by FarPastGone
Sweet.....yeah everyone here is pretty cool too... Yes, they are.
RefusedsXe
01/04/04, 12:11 PM
I dont know you but you like Converge so you rule.
Unopened Letter
01/04/04, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by MaybeOneDay
Yeah, I know what you're talking about. They're idiots. It's all good, no more KP. At least not regularily, anyways.
I like it over there to some extent. The people are truly jackasses. They are mean to everyone. Unless you are cool. Let's take an example:
Me. I would post stupid shit correct. Make stupid pointless threads. I get bitched at so much, you have no idea. People like mike(offbasil) would dis me and shit.
Dan. He posts numerous pointless threads. Does he get shit for it? NO. You will see about 10 million threads with stupid titles about stupid shit all posted by Dan. No one cares because he's "cool".
Now don't get me wrong, I love dan to death. But I don't see how people, especially(sp) mike, can be so hypocritical(sp).
This angers me very much. That is why I like it here better. The people are nicer and accept people's opinons.
lollirot
01/04/04, 12:44 PM
Nicole is the coolest.
No you don't know me, but I know you. Creepy, huh?
Brandon, how can you forget how KnifeParty came to be when you were there from the beginning? KnifeParty was originally a group journal, a blog. After a few weeks we decided it would be cool to add articles and reviews to it, and then it turned into this huge thing called knifeparty.com.
Yeah, it's kinda like that.
BustaNutz
01/04/04, 12:46 PM
Hahaha, Shelley I just noticed you still have the emü plug in your sig. I almost forgot about that whole thing.
Wow Brandon, you're a tool. A couple days ago you said KP was better. Plus, how are we any different from AP? Sure we promote different bands, but we provide a lot of content.
And you guys are stereotyping the whole forum. We're not a bunch of 'AP assholes'.
Originally posted by MaybeOneDay
Yeah, I know what you're talking about. They're idiots. It's all good, no more KP. At least not regularily, anyways.
You're the biggest fucking tool ever.
Plus, we got mad at him for faking his picture, not registering under a different name.
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by kevin
Wow Brandon, you're a tool. A couple days ago you said KP was better. Plus, how are we any different from AP? Sure we promote different bands, but we provide a lot of content.
And you guys are stereotyping the whole forum. We're not a bunch of 'AP assholes'. Y'know, I don't really have much against Knife Party, because at times, it can be quite similiar to AP. But it's the fact that, sometimes, you take things way too far. For example ... Jason Tate. What the fuck do you have against him? You all hate him because he is the webmaster of a musical site that's better than yours/Knife Party. I'm sorry if it sounds harsh, but at the time, it's the truth. I'm not saying that won't change, because it could, but for now, Absolute Punk is better. Knife Party doesn't host a bunch of assholes in their forums, I like to say that sometimes because of certain things I've come across. Goto the Top 10 posters list of Absolute Punk Forums, click on a few of them, the banned ones, and see what their latest posts were. And, to my understanding, those people were the ones that went to Knife Party. I have nothing against the forums at Knife Party, I've talked to a few of the members on MSN, and I go there sometimes when Absolute Punk is slow.
You got mad at him for faking his picture? I could care less, Brandon is a joker and likes to have fun. I think it would be quite humorous, especially if you fell for it and afterwards got pissed off about it.
We're not personally mad at Tate. I'm not going to get into anything else and try and start some war.
We're not assholes at all. You need to post more and then you will realize that. Plus, Brandon has loved our site since August, said great things about even last night, and has always said KP was a little better.
Brandon faked his picture for over a year. Plus, we weren't really pissed, we just made fun of him whenever he tried to make fun of us.
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 01:52 PM
When I say assholes, I'm referring to the comments that some of them made over here at AP way back when KP first started and they were leaving. It wasn't necessary for them to start making stupid comments, banning people unnecessarily, and getting banned themselves for a fun time. I like to have fun on forums, but when it gets out of hand like that situation did, then I get opinionated and think that those people were acting as assholes. I have nothing against Knife Party, in fact, I'm there right now.
We didn't get banned by Tate. This girl that posts at KP banned is to be funny.
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by kevin
We didn't get banned by Tate. This girl that posts at KP banned is to be funny. Doesn't make the fact that they were major assholes over here before they left. Check out their posts and see for yourself.
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by kevin
Wow Brandon, you're a tool. A couple days ago you said KP was better. Plus, how are we any different from AP? Sure we promote different bands, but we provide a lot of content.
And you guys are stereotyping the whole forum. We're not a bunch of 'AP assholes'.
Oh, Kevin, Kevin..you just gave me a good laugh. You were one of the few people my comments about KP weren't directed at. But, I guess now I can say it was directed at you. Or, maybe you could tone it down a notch or two and take it easy for a minute ?
Also, you must have read wrong. In the last while, no I did not say anything like that. I strongly think AP is a better site, with better people. What I said, is that KP has a better end of the year awards feature, because it is better than the one Jason made up. Does that mean I think KP is better than AP ? Nope.
Yes, a bunch of people (most of them, infact) are assholes. Very few of them are even remotely nice. If you aren't in the little clique that i've come to know so well at KP, then there really isn't a point of posting at all. Every post you make, you'll get insulted for it. Every opinion you share, you'll get shut down for it. And lastly, at least once a day you'll be told you have the worst musical taste. The people at KP are under the impression that they define 'good music'. Lastly, even after you have called me a 'tool' (how creative of you), you are still one of the very (and I stress this word alot here) few people who are nice enough to actually get along with.
Good day to ya.
So we're idiots and assholes who shut down every opinion, yet you posted for almost 6 months?
unoriginal
01/04/04, 02:29 PM
This is really stupid. Brandon I feel as though you are a hypocrite at times. And yeah, every forum will have it's asshole or two or three but really KP isn't as bad as you make it. I was scared to post there at first but then I realized there's no reason to be, they're just everyone I used to talk to at AP. People should listen to your opinion but they have to remember that you did do something messed up that made us not trust you and all that other stuff. It's just a forum, and even if most of them are assholes like you claim it really shouldn't affect you personally.
I think the real difference between AP and KP is that KP is more like a family, everyone knows eachother. Here on AP there are small groups and then tons of random posters.
So if you're curious about KP, join. Don't just go read the threads, contribute. If you get bitched at everytime you post then don't anymore. easy as that.
:)
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by kevin
So we're idiots and assholes who shut down every opinion, yet you posted for almost 6 months?
Good job detective, you've successfully stated the obvious.
Yes, obviously I posted there for almost 6 months. Everyone I knew off the internet for those 6 months were at KP. Where else was I going to post ? Surely not here. I didn't know a single person. And now, that i've met people from AP (the newer people) I can continue posting here again.
No no, you didn't hear me correctly. You DO NOT shutdown every opinion. However, you DO shut down every opinion outside of the oh so wonderful KP clique. Yeah, you know what i'm talking about. (You, julie, colin, pat, bill, shelley, jerry, dan and so on...)
Oh, and erin...i'm sorry dear, but since i'm too much of a hypocrite, I didn't feel like reading your post.
unoriginal
01/04/04, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by MaybeOneDay
Oh, and erin...i'm sorry dear, but since i'm too much of a hypocrite, I didn't feel like reading your post.
eh have it your way.
Unopened Letter
01/04/04, 03:13 PM
I agree with erin. If you don't like it there don't post there. I rarely post at KP because I don't like it there. They are mean to me. It's not saying that they're going to be mean to everyone.
It's the expirences(sp) i've had with those people. I just rather be somewhere where people respect me and my opinions. That doesn't mean they wont respect you or your opinions.
piebaldkid42
01/04/04, 03:21 PM
one major reason that people think KP is full of assholes and whatnot is because of how many people come back for a day and totally trash the place on how it sucks ass and stuff. All they do is preach on how mars volta is the greatest band to ever live, how tates an asshole, or start some pointless argument, which totally makes the newer-ish members here think that place is full of jerks.
oh and i can understand how it has a "clique" or is more like a family than AP, since it started out relatively not too too long ago things like that are gonna happen. its like that at Killjoy too except the members there wont give you as much crap for screwing up. all you have to do is stay for a day or two and youll be accepted by the group quickly. Trent knows what im talking about. so with all of this said... go to killjoy because its better than everything else!!
KillJoy Media! (http://killjoymedia.proboards24.com) <---shameless plug
Originally posted by MaybeOneDay
Good job detective, you've successfully stated the obvious.
Yes, obviously I posted there for almost 6 months. Everyone I knew off the internet for those 6 months were at KP. Where else was I going to post ? Surely not here. I didn't know a single person. And now, that i've met people from AP (the newer people) I can continue posting here again.
No no, you didn't hear me correctly. You DO NOT shutdown every opinion. However, you DO shut down every opinion outside of the oh so wonderful KP clique. Yeah, you know what i'm talking about. (You, julie, colin, pat, bill, shelley, jerry, dan and so on...)
Oh, and erin...i'm sorry dear, but since i'm too much of a hypocrite, I didn't feel like reading your post.
First off, a question isn't a statement. Therefore my question couldn't have stated the obvious.
So wait, you have to post somewhere? No one was forcing you to post at KP. You could have easily started posting here, or RTS and met new people.
I don't shutdown every opinion of someone outside the "clique". I happen to not care for a good majority of people inside of the "clique" as well. Plus, you ever think you're the problem? Instead of blaming it on us, you might want to evaluate that.
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 03:29 PM
^ Out of all the posts in this thread, this one made the most sense, because it's true. Erin, you may be accepted there, but some people aren't. KillJoy is definetly a good choice, I went there and was accepted right away, no bullshit. KP, the only person who took notice of me was Angie when I first started posting. Now barely any of my posts ever get talked about or looked at.
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 03:30 PM
I was referring to Piebald's post. What's your name, anyways?
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by kevin
First off, a question isn't a statement. Therefore my question couldn't have stated the obvious.
So wait, you have to post somewhere? No one was forcing you to post at KP. You could have easily started posting here, or RTS and met new people.
I don't shutdown every opinion of someone outside the "clique". I happen to not care for a good majority of people inside of the "clique" as well. Plus, you ever think you're the problem? Instead of blaming it on us, you might want to evaluate that. Then why the fuck is there a clique? Any place that has a real 'clique' has got some serious problems.
lollirot
01/04/04, 03:35 PM
Brandon you fucking hypocrite. You bitch about cliques when you, Christina, and James jack every fucking thread and take over the forums with your inside jokes and filler posts. Jesus Christ..
Hey Brandon, prepare to get owned to the max tonight. I'm just warning you.
piebaldkid42
01/04/04, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by takingbackrufio
I was referring to Piebald's post. What's your name, anyways?
tim
unoriginal
01/04/04, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by piebaldkid42
tim
Hey Tim. I know you've been here a while but I don't think I've ever formally said hi. So hi haha
piebaldkid42
01/04/04, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by unoriginal
Hey Tim. I know you've been here a while but I don't think I've ever formally said hi. So hi haha
hello erin its nice to finally greet you or whatever haha
unoriginal
01/04/04, 03:57 PM
that's what's up.
I'm all about the love.
piebaldkid42
01/04/04, 04:05 PM
did this atthedrivein guy just post once and leave?
unoriginal
01/04/04, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by piebaldkid42
did this atthedrivein guy just post once and leave?
girl and I have no idea. Probably.
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by kevin
Hey Brandon, prepare to get owned to the max tonight. I'm just warning you.
"Owned to the max" ? What are you in Grade 3 ?
Don't worry, i'll be waiting.
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by piebaldkid42
did this atthedrivein guy just post once and leave?
She went over to KP.
What a suprise.
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by MaybeOneDay
She went over to KP.
What a suprise. I hear ya.
piebaldkid42
01/04/04, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by MaybeOneDay
She went over to KP.
What a suprise.
i actually signed up over there, i only posted once but it didnt seem like anything special at all, and the backround there is way too bright for my liking
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by piebaldkid42
i actually signed up over there, i only posted once but it didnt seem like anything special at all, and the backround there is way too bright for my liking That's because it isn't special.
I post there on the odd occasion, but I like it here alot better ... just an opinion.
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 06:23 PM
I just officially left KP for good today.
Unopened Letter
01/04/04, 06:25 PM
Thats sad Brandon. very sad.
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by MaybeOneDay
I just officially left KP for good today. Way to stand up and fight, Brandon. They just think that they're better than you, how mature.
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Unopened Letter
Thats sad Brandon. very sad.
Why is that very sad ?
Hah, yeah Trent. Brandon > KP. Haha, jk.
Unopened Letter
01/04/04, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by takingbackrufio
Way to stand up and fight, Brandon. They just think that they're better than you, how mature.
you tickle my funny bone:D
Unopened Letter
01/04/04, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by MaybeOneDay
Why is that very sad ?
Hah, yeah Trent. Brandon > KP. Haha, jk.
I don't know.
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by Unopened Letter
I don't know.
Meh. Alright.
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 06:34 PM
Britney Spears Fanclub > KP. :laugh:;)
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by takingbackrufio
Britney Spears Fanclug > KP. :laugh:;)
Hahaha.
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 06:39 PM
Now watch somebody jump down my throat. I'm waiting.
MaybeOneDay
01/04/04, 06:52 PM
Where's Kevin when you need him, eh ?
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by MaybeOneDay
Where's Kevin when you need him, eh ? If he was here I'd get not only his two cents, but three.
Unopened Letter
01/04/04, 07:01 PM
Boys are yucky.. bleh:cheeky:
BuriedAlive
01/04/04, 10:38 PM
wow, i saw a lot of ownage being done to both brandon and trent... i dont know how they are gonna survive.
takingbackrufio
01/04/04, 10:57 PM
Yep, we were doing just fine.
BuriedAlive
01/04/04, 11:03 PM
dude, it sucks. i hate when i miss days... im all behind and i dont know whats going on. haha.
Originally posted by takingbackrufio
Then why the fuck is there a clique? Any place that has a real 'clique' has got some serious problems.
The "clique" he refers to consists of everyone on staff. That's it. I think it's good that our staff is this together, we work harder and communicate much better this way. Plus, he kind of over exaggerates this clique. We don't shut people down. I think Brandon needs to realize that he said a lot of stupid and ignorant stuff, which made the "clique" start to not like him. It wasn't the other way around.
takingbackrufio
01/05/04, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by kevin
The "clique" he refers to consists of everyone on staff. That's it. I think it's good that our staff is this together, we work harder and communicate much better this way. Plus, he kind of over exaggerates this clique. We don't shut people down. I think Brandon needs to realize that he said a lot of stupid and ignorant stuff, which made the "clique" start to not like him. It wasn't the other way around. There's two sides to this story, and I don't feel like getting involved with this shit that's going on. I like Brandon, he's a good guy, and if everyone at KP hates him and are going to 'own him to the max', I could care less. I don't mind KP, I go there sometimes, I just sometimes disagree with the actions chosen to take.
Ya see I had no problem with Brandon until now. He's a fairly cool guy but sometimes is a bit hypocritical. Alright, my work is done here.
And the "own to the max" thing is just a collection of hypocritical stuff Brandon has said. I don't know if I'm still going to post it. The hostility has calmed and I'm feeling good about AP today. We'll see.
xnotedgex
01/05/04, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by kevin
Ya see I had no problem with Brandon until now. He's a fairly cool guy but sometimes is a bit hypocritical. Alright, my work is done here.
And the "own to the max" thing is just a collection of hypocritical stuff Brandon has said. I don't know if I'm still going to post it. The hostility has calmed and I'm feeling good about AP today. We'll see.
you thought interpol was from britain...credibility denied
Unopened Letter
01/05/04, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by BuriedAlive
dude, it sucks. i hate when i miss days... im all behind and i dont know whats going on. haha.
Ill fill you in.
Your quartet has now turned into a quintet, well because of the oh so awesome me.
This kid DON socrates or what not came here. Everyone was saying stuff about Kp and Ap and which one was better.
Then that atthedrivein. girl came back. She didn't know Kp was made so they all filled her in.
Then I voulentered(sp?) to become the forum's Mrs. Clean Slut, and I'm married to Trent.
The Sk8ter chick was the brides maid. And I believe penis(brandon) was the ring bearer.
thats about it I believe.
Originally posted by xnotedgex
you thought interpol was from britain...credibility denied
Hey buddy, way to use the one stupid thing I've ever said against me. Everytime I say something you bring this up, it's stupid. Plus, I thought they were found in Britain, and then brought to NYC to record an album for Matador.
BustaNutz
01/05/04, 01:37 PM
Stop bickering it's pointless. Kevin, while I agree with every word you've said, you can't convince anyone here of anything. So it's pointless to try.
And Brandon, I have barely posted anything in the last three months, I'm more or less just a writer at this point. So to say I'm part of some clique on a forum really just serves to illustrate how clueless you are. I am one of the few that didn't get in on the threads about you faking pics or about any of that. I've satyed off to the sideline, so how I get lumped in is pretty curious.
As for AP and KP and which is better, they're different sites. We find our niche with creative writing and commentary, this is a music site. It's apples and oranges. Is AP more established? Yes. Is it neccesarily better? Whose to say, it's completely subjective.
takingbackrufio
01/05/04, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by BustaNutz
Stop bickering it's pointless. Kevin, while I agree with every word you've said, you can't convince anyone here of anything. So it's pointless to try.
And Brandon, I have barely posted anything in the last three months, I'm more or less just a writer at this point. So to say I'm part of some clique on a forum really just serves to illustrate how clueless you are. I am one of the few that didn't get in on the threads about you faking pics or about any of that. I've satyed off to the sideline, so how I get lumped in is pretty curious.
As for AP and KP and which is better, they're different sites. We find our niche with creative writing and commentary, this is a music site. It's apples and oranges. Is AP more established? Yes. Is it neccesarily better? Whose to say, it's completely subjective. You are so right. <-- Whether that statement is hypoctritical, in a way, or not, I could care less. You were right, and if I didn't think what you said before, I do now.
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