You know what isn't punk? Censorship

[BanMe]

Dear Jason Tate, and whomever else may read this:
While this is being posted under a friend's account, I assure you this message is from PunknewsScott. The reason I'm having a friend post this is because Jason Tate has banned me from his forums, essentially barring me from his website overall, as the news is generated with his forums program.

This is just the newest in a long line of reasons as to why Jason Tate represents all that is inherently wrong in the punk rock scene today. I have been censored for my beliefs, simply because Mr. Tate did not agree with them. He has taken potshot after potshot at me personally and spread lies and falsehoods on this very site about everything from my musical tastes to my sexual orientation. Is this really the man you want to bring you news?

If it is, fine. Stay here. Watch this site slowly turn into a mockup of Nazi Germany. But if you feel, like I and others before me have, that this is a gross injustice, speak out. Post your opinions on these forums until you yourself are banned by this megalomaniac. Fight the good fight.

Scott Heisel
www.punknews.org

[towhatend]

wow get a life, try finding a bigger problem in to deal with. Not that i care one way or another about Jasan Tate but don't you have something else you could be fighting?

[piebaldkid42]

wow get a life, try finding a bigger problem in to deal with. Not that i care one way or another about Jasan Tate but don't you have something else you could be fighting?
yea, and whyd you post it twice?

[Touched]

Oh come of it, it's only a website made up of 1s and 0s. Get over it.

[xnotedgex]

Dear Jason Tate, and whomever else may read this:
While this is being posted under a friend's account, I assure you this message is from PunknewsScott. The reason I'm having a friend post this is because Jason Tate has banned me from his forums, essentially barring me from his website overall, as the news is generated with his forums program.

This is just the newest in a long line of reasons as to why Jason Tate represents all that is inherently wrong in the punk rock scene today. I have been censored for my beliefs, simply because Mr. Tate did not agree with them. He has taken potshot after potshot at me personally and spread lies and falsehoods on this very site about everything from my musical tastes to my sexual orientation. Is this really the man you want to bring you news?

If it is, fine. Stay here. Watch this site slowly turn into a mockup of Nazi Germany. But if you feel, like I and others before me have, that this is a gross injustice, speak out. Post your opinions on these forums until you yourself are banned by this megalomaniac. Fight the good fight.

Scott Heisel
www.punknews.org

drama queen

[worldstheory]

drama queen
Ha!

[aurora]

Dear Jason Tate, and whomever else may read this:
While this is being posted under a friend's account, I assure you this message is from PunknewsScott. The reason I'm having a friend post this is because Jason Tate has banned me from his forums, essentially barring me from his website overall, as the news is generated with his forums program.

This is just the newest in a long line of reasons as to why Jason Tate represents all that is inherently wrong in the punk rock scene today. I have been censored for my beliefs, simply because Mr. Tate did not agree with them. He has taken potshot after potshot at me personally and spread lies and falsehoods on this very site about everything from my musical tastes to my sexual orientation. Is this really the man you want to bring you news?

If it is, fine. Stay here. Watch this site slowly turn into a mockup of Nazi Germany. But if you feel, like I and others before me have, that this is a gross injustice, speak out. Post your opinions on these forums until you yourself are banned by this megalomaniac. Fight the good fight.

Scott Heisel
www.punknews.org
Jesu Maria you're everywhere!!! I sense some hostility in you, you should relax, take a bubble bath, read a romance novel, drink herbal tea... I think your tendency to be melodramatic is because you are bitter inside ... relax, relax, relax...
and kittens! Honestly amigo, such a poor diet... tisk tisk.

[BanMe]

Uh..guys..I'm not Scott. I'm simply posting his message for him. I do agree with him though. Tate calls Scott gay and makes personal attacks, and Scott gets banned? Doesn't make sense.

[mwhpunk]

do u like running into the same argumens in forums after forums?

[BanMe]

I like it as much as you like raping the english language and leaving it by the side of the road.

[MaybeOneDay]

Apparently this message was so important you had to post it twice

[BanMe]

More than twice, actually. I wanted to make sure everyone saw it. I didn't think anyone would notice or respond, i was wrong.

[mwhpunk]

I am pretty sure that I have run into this great message more than twice!! Using correct English is not as enjoyable as fucking it up!

[mwhpunk]

i was wrong.
very well said!

[BanMe]

very well said!

Cute. Is taking quotes out of context as fun as typing incoherent nonsense?

[mwhpunk]

Cute. Is taking quotes out of context as fun as typing incoherent nonsense?
awwww. you think that typing big words makes you better than me!

[BanMe]

How are those big words?

Anyway, this isn't my fight, but I think there are a couple things everyone can agree on:

Unfounded personal attacks-wrong
Calling someone gay as if it's an insult-wrong
Challenging someone to a fight over the internet because they disagree with you-hilarious, but stupid beyond belief

[mwhpunk]

How are those big words?

Anyway, this isn't my fight, but I think there are a couple things everyone can agree on:

Unfounded personal attacks-wrong
Calling someone gay as if it's an insult-wrong
Challenging someone to a fight over the internet because they disagree with you-hilarious, but stupid beyond belief
i'm just trying to get under your skin..... i agree with all of those things, and i never challenged you to a fight.

[BanMe]

I didn't say you did, Tate challenged Scott to a fight.

[mwhpunk]

^^^ oh i didn't know that. i agree w/ u. that was stupid to do.

[Lueda Alia]

Dear Jason Tate, and whomever else may read this:
While this is being posted under a friend's account, I assure you this message is from PunknewsScott. The reason I'm having a friend post this is because Jason Tate has banned me from his forums, essentially barring me from his website overall, as the news is generated with his forums program.

This is just the newest in a long line of reasons as to why Jason Tate represents all that is inherently wrong in the punk rock scene today. I have been censored for my beliefs, simply because Mr. Tate did not agree with them. He has taken potshot after potshot at me personally and spread lies and falsehoods on this very site about everything from my musical tastes to my sexual orientation. Is this really the man you want to bring you news?

If it is, fine. Stay here. Watch this site slowly turn into a mockup of Nazi Germany. But if you feel, like I and others before me have, that this is a gross injustice, speak out. Post your opinions on these forums until you yourself are banned by this megalomaniac. Fight the good fight.

Scott Heisel
www.punknews.org

when will you realize that no one cares about what you think of this site?

If this is how you're trying to get more members on your site, then let me tell you that its really sad, and that you should find a better way. I personally, would never come to your site because I don't like people who are "too punk" for certain music and things. But that's just me. Good luck on getting people over at your site.

[mwhpunk]

when will you realize that no one cares about what you think of this site?

If this is how you're trying to get more members on your site, then let me tell you that its really sad, and that you should find a better way. I personally, would never come to your site because I don't like people who are "too punk" for certain music and things. But that's just me. Good luck on getting people over at your site.
its a lost cause arguing with this guy..... just take the high road and let him alone. i wouldn't want him getting the idea that people really care about him or that website.

[The Bled 13]

Your right about all your points. But don't you think your striving for a lost cause? If you don't like the webpage, than just don't come to it .. shit, it's that easy. And if you are really telling the truth than maybe this Tate guy isn't so good. I'd like to hear what he has to say.

[aurora]

More than twice, actually. I wanted to make sure everyone saw it. I didn't think anyone would notice or respond, i was wrong.

Uh oh, buddy, you forgot to capitalize one of your 'I's ... GOD I WISH YOU WOULD STOP RAPING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE!!! UGH, LEARN SOME GRAMMAR.
Now, if you didn't realize that I was joking, you aren't as intelligent as you come off, but honestly... was posting this all over the place really necessary/effective? Choose your battles. Also, this little thing between Scott and Jason shouldn't involve everyone else, and shame on you for bringing it onto other people. Its not our business.

[irawkyoursawk]

By posting things like this all that you're doing is telling this person that he won and satisfying his needs for the oh so powerful ability to ban you from a website...

Other than that...I agree. He seems like quite the butt face...Considering that he wants to fight online. People take things way too seriously on the internet...

[BanMe]

Uh oh, buddy, you forgot to capitalize one of your 'I's ... GOD I WISH YOU WOULD STOP RAPING THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE!!! UGH, LEARN SOME GRAMMAR.
Now, if you didn't realize that I was joking, you aren't as intelligent as you come off, but honestly... was posting this all over the place really necessary/effective? Choose your battles. Also, this little thing between Scott and Jason shouldn't involve everyone else, and shame on you for bringing it onto other people. Its not our business.

Scott wanted it posted, so I posted it. Yes, shame on me. Anyway, whether you were kidding or not, there's a difference between a typo and shortening words like "you" and "people." That's just lazy and annoying, save that shit for the Dawson's Creek chat. I'm no grammar nazi, but come on.

[Lueda Alia]

Scott wanted it posted, so I posted it. Yes, shame on me. Anyway, whether you were kidding or not, there's a difference between a typo and shortening words like "you" and "people." That's just lazy and annoying, save that shit for the Dawson's Creek chat. I'm no grammar nazi, but come on.

hmmm I take it, you have been to that chatroom...

[BanMe]

hmmm I take it, you have been to that chatroom...

Of course.

[aurora]

Scott wanted it posted, so I posted it. Yes, shame on me. Anyway, whether you were kidding or not, there's a difference between a typo and shortening words like "you" and "people." That's just lazy and annoying, save that shit for the Dawson's Creek chat. I'm no grammar nazi, but come on.
I was kidding around, I did it because it seemed like your insults were repetitively based on the users' grammar, which I found somewhat stupid. I'm obviously not a fan of "lazy English" seeing as I never use it... I actually liked you until you posted all this crap... you seemed clever and amusing, but you had to go and ruin it with this stupid internet fight nonsense. Yes, I stand by my shame on you, it doesn't involve any of us. Period.

[BanMe]

I was kidding around, I did it because it seemed like your insults were repetitively based on the users' grammar, which I found somewhat stupid. I'm obviously not a fan of "lazy English" seeing as I never use it... I actually liked you until you posted all this crap... you seemed clever and amusing, but you had to go and ruin it with this stupid internet fight nonsense. Yes, I stand by my shame on you, it doesn't involve any of us. Period.

I insulted one person's grammar, and that was because it was really, really bad. I don't think I've done anything wrong here. Should it stay between Scott and Tate? Yes, probably, but it has repeatedly escalated, particularly when Tate told people to harass Scott over AOL Instant Messanger. I'm not taking part in any war, like I said in another post, I don't have the time or energy for that. Scott asked me to post his message, and seeing how he's help me out before, I wasn't going to tell him no. I've only been voicing my opinion on the issue, much like everyone else is doing. I think I've been fairly civil, so what's the big deal?

[aurora]

Alright, this is ridiculous... I don't want to argue about this anymore. Bottom line, and you are going to disagree, naturally or else this wouldn't still be going, but I don't think you should've posted this thing all over the place attempting to bring more people into this. That's all I'm saying, and yes, you've been quite civil, which is why I said I liked you until this stuff. El Fin. Good day.

[BanMe]

Alright, this is ridiculous... I don't want to argue about this anymore. Bottom line, and you are going to disagree, naturally or else this wouldn't still be going, but I don't think you should've posted this thing all over the place attempting to bring more people into this. That's all I'm saying, and yes, you've been quite civil, which is why I said I liked you until this stuff. El Fin. Good day.

Posting it multiple times was a bit much, but I wanted to make sure people saw it. I wasn't trying to incite a war. Anyway, I'm probably done here, I stayed longer than I planned on staying to begin with.

[Lueda Alia]

I totally agree with you Katy. My opinion changed completely too, cause of this thread.

and.. BanMe.... well that is good to know. Looks like you do have too much time on your hands since you keep posting this for other people and you spend your time on the Dawson's Crack chatroom.

[Lueda Alia]

I'm not taking part in any war, like I said in another post, I don't have the time or energy for that.
hmm yeah ok sure, it really does seem that way. eh.

[towhatend]

haha

that would take away from dawsons creek chat and we can't be having that.

[BanMe]

hmm yeah ok sure, it really does seem that way. eh.

I'm not going to argue about arguing, that seems pretty pointless. If you want to think I have too much time on my hands, you're welcome to that opinion, I don't know you, and you don't know me. I don't feel the need to justify anything to you, so I'll leave it at that.

[sockkaction]

i think that it's pretty hilarious that scott gave tate a date that he was going to be in oregon and then tate shut up about it.

[Lueda Alia]

I'm not going to argue about arguing, that seems pretty pointless. If you want to think I have too much time on my hands, you're welcome to that opinion, I don't know you, and you don't know me. I don't feel the need to justify anything to you, so I'll leave it at that.
I don't want to think you have too much time on your hands, because you do, and this thread proved it.

[BanMe]

I don't want to think you have too much time on your hands, because you do, and this thread proved it.

Yes, because nothing is as time consuming as copying and pasting a message, you got me! You have twice as many posts as I do, and you've been for a shorter time. It's funny how someone can have over 1000 posts, but if they agree if you it's cool, but if someone has 150+ posts and disagrees with you they need to get a life. I hope you never find yourself in an actual debate, because you'd be screwed.

[aurora]

BanMe, you're alright... You've handled everyone's shit really well... and I don't know, you've been a gentleman about it (most of the time) ... I still think the original post is crap though, but yeah... You're not all bad.

[sweetsugar]

I like it as much as you like raping the english language and leaving it by the side of the road.
Thats the funniest shit i've ever read.

[Lueda Alia]

Yes, because nothing is as time consuming as copying and pasting a message, you got me! You have twice as many posts as I do, and you've been for a shorter time. It's funny how someone can have over 1000 posts, but if they agree if you it's cool, but if someone has 150+ posts and disagrees with you they need to get a life. I hope you never find yourself in an actual debate, because you'd be screwed.

awww really? I've been in a "real" debate and I haven't been "screwed". My number of posts doesn't mean anything. I like to post, that's all. You don't like this site, so I don't really expect you to post here and have a lot of posts. That still doesn't mean that you don't have too much time on your hands though. You didn't exactly just copy and paste what some one else told you to, you continued backing it up. That is having too much time on your hands. well in my books anyway.

But nice try. Bringing the # of posts into this and all. Guess you couldn't find anything else to hold against me, and did what most people do around here.

[BanMe]

awww really? I've been in a "real" debate and I haven't been "screwed". My number of posts doesn't mean anything. I like to post, that's all. You don't like this site, so I don't really expect you to post here and have a lot of posts. That still doesn't mean that you don't have too much time on your hands though. You didn't exactly just copy and paste what some one else told you to, you continued backing it up. That is having too much time on your hands. well in my books anyway.

But nice try. Bringing the # of posts into this and all. Guess you couldn't find anything else to hold against me, and did what most people do around here.

Bringing the post count into this isn't any different than what you did. This is almost getting comical, because you haven't made a single valid argument this entire time. You're posting about this just as much as I am, and if not for people like you this thread would've sunk to the bottom by now. This is no different than arguing about a favorite band or something like that. If you can't discuss the topic and you'd rather change the subject with baseless accusations, maybe you should just quit. You're only keeping this topic at the top the of the page. Thanks.

[The Bled 13]

Scott wanted it posted, so I posted it. Yes, shame on me. Anyway, whether you were kidding or not, there's a difference between a typo and shortening words like "you" and "people." That's just lazy and annoying, save that shit for the Dawson's Creek chat. I'm no grammar nazi, but come on.


Haha, I'm sorry. But I agree with this part - "Anyway, whether you were kidding or not, there's a difference between a typo and shortening words like "you" and "people." That's just lazy and annoying, save that shit for the Dawson's Creek chat." Well put, well put. And if you could just be a little nicer, I think we could all be freinds. Not the hippy-nice but maybe the "I hate your fucking guts, but I'll still be nice .. nice." Please?

[The Bled 13]

And maybe .. just maybe - he is right about this Tate guy. I haven't heard him say anything. I'm waiting - I would like him to defend himself. Don't get me wrong, I like this webpage and all but I really want to hear his side of the story.

[mwhpunk]

And maybe .. just maybe - he is right about this Tate guy. I haven't heard him say anything. I'm waiting - I would like him to defend himself. Don't get me wrong, I like this webpage and all but I really want to hear his side of the story.
i doubt he says anything anymore. he's bigger than this childish arguing (and i admit i'm childish because i participated in this joke). he may have done some things that are wrong but its his website.

[takingbackrufio]

And maybe .. just maybe - he is right about this Tate guy. I haven't heard him say anything. I'm waiting - I would like him to defend himself. Don't get me wrong, I like this webpage and all but I really want to hear his side of the story.
This same post was in the general forum, and Tate had a huge reply defending himself ... very well written and had valid points, I would say.

[BanMe]

This same post was in the general forum, and Tate had a huge reply defending himself ... very well written and had valid points, I would say.

Not really, he made a bunch of stuff up. Scott never made outrageous statements about anyone on the AP staff, and his 60 or so posts certainly weren't clogging up the board. Tate could've just been honest and said "I don't like you, so I banned you" but instead he tried to look like the bigger man and play the victim. Say what you want about Scott, at least he never devoted an entire news post to mocking Tate's music collection.

[mwhpunk]

Not really, he made a bunch of stuff up. Scott never made outrageous statements about anyone on the AP staff, and his 60 or so posts certainly weren't clogging up the board. Tate could've just been honest and said "I don't like you, so I banned you" but instead he tried to look like the bigger man and play the victim. Say what you want about Scott, at least he never devoted an entire news post to mocking Tate's music collection.
let it go dude. just let it go!! :approve:

[takingbackrufio]

Not really, he made a bunch of stuff up. Scott never made outrageous statements about anyone on the AP staff, and his 60 or so posts certainly weren't clogging up the board. Tate could've just been honest and said "I don't like you, so I banned you" but instead he tried to look like the bigger man and play the victim. Say what you want about Scott, at least he never devoted an entire news post to mocking Tate's music collection.
We obviously disagree on everything, you're right, I'm wrong, vice versa ... I could care less, I'm not leaving here, whether PunkNewsScott tries to persuade me to or not.

[MaybeOneDay]

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