More Fox News Retardedness/Racism

[Steve Henderson]

Calling Michelle Obama Barack's "Baby Mama." Wow.

http://images.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/06/11/fox_obama/story.jpg


(source (http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/06/11/fox_obama/index.html))

[aircourtneys]

Wow.

[Steve Henderson]

Wow.
Nice Toothpaste for Dinner signature :)

[thespearkid]

And they call Obama the elitist.

[Broken Parachute]

Hahahahahahaha. Wow.

[LastPlaceRocks]

Thank you Fox News for not knowing what the true meaning of "baby mama" is.

[Jason Tate]

Just wished the "Fair and Balanced" logo was on that screen cap.

[LastPlaceRocks]

I'd love to see that too. But if it were truly "fair and balanced," we'd hear some more talk about that black baby McCain fathered in South Carolina.

[AlexOnFire11]

Fox News hates the Dems.

[inyoursea]

How I love you fox news.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Just wished the "Fair and Balanced" logo was on that screen cap.
hahaha that would have been awesome.

[LastPlaceRocks]

Fox News hates the Dems.
No, that's a total lie - they love the Dems. Or should I say they love ragging on the Dems to make a profit. Long live America!

[GiggsOho]

How I love you fox news.

Wow, an Ed Rendell avatar. You aren't even in PA....?


Does this really shock anyone? It's not even worth getting mad about. FNC Sucks, exhibit: #432430248392049329048390284302.

[TheOtherAndrew]

Fox News hates the Dems.
Obvious statement of the decade?

[saysmydoctor]

Fox News hates the Dems.
You don't say?

[aircourtneys]

Nice Toothpaste for Dinner signature :)


Haha thanks! Those things make me laugh way too hard!

[Skadrist]

Fair and Balanced. Fuck Yeah!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080613/ap_on_en_tv/tv_huckabee_fox_news

[Burning Star IV]

Word up.

[DannySniper]

I wish we had outrageously biased media outlets in Australia.

[DeathCabForCoon]

It's funny because it's... racist...

[se1046]

It's a joke. Get a life.

In other news... try watching any other news program for your blatantly liberal agenda.

[The_kok]

o dear. here goes se1046, our resident neo-con

[se1046]

o dear. here goes se1046, our resident neo-con

It's nice to be acknowledged. Thank you!

[ghostyouare]

It's a joke. Get a life.

In other news... try watching any other news program for your blatantly liberal agenda.
Alright, its a joke then, its probably the least professional thing fox has displayed. Its not fucking local news network, they are supposed to be held to higher standards.

[Steve Henderson]

It's a joke. Get a life.

In other news... try watching any other news program for your blatantly liberal agenda.
Still an unfunny, racist joke.

[Mitch]

Fox News does absolutely nothing but piss me off.

[loveisdead]

It's a joke. Get a life.

In other news... try watching any other news program for your blatantly liberal agenda.
There is no possible way to defend it. Seriously, give it up.

[thespearkid]

It's a joke. Get a life.

In other news... try watching any other news program for your blatantly liberal agenda.
People watch the news for NEWS, not tasteless jokes.

[Nevuk]

People watch the news for NEWS, not tasteless jokes.
Then why would they ever watch Fox News?

[DannySniper]

Still an unfunny, racist joke.

/thread

[ActionActionFan]

I would just like to point out that when Barack Obama won his seat in the Senate Michelle Obama called Barack her Baby's Daddy. So I see nothing wrong in what fox did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnMrJwUCZDk

[Mitch]

I would just like to point out that when Barack Obama won his seat in the Senate Michelle Obama called Barack her Baby's Daddy. So I see nothing wrong in what fox did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnMrJwUCZDk

:rolleyes:

[xshady121]

Still an unfunny, racist joke.

There we go again, throwing around the r word. That's going to be the story of this election, whether or not the situation calls for it. Also, applying it to such frivolous situation as this will take away from when someone truly makes a racist remark later on.

[DannySniper]

I would just like to point out that when Barack Obama won his seat in the Senate Michelle Obama called Barack her Baby's Daddy. So I see nothing wrong in what fox did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnMrJwUCZDk

Yep, I'm gonna do a complete 180 flip on my previous views relating to this issue.

Thanks for showing this. It basically ends all debate.

[saysmydoctor]

There we go again, throwing around the r word. That's going to be the story of this election, whether or not the situation calls for it. Also, applying it to such frivolous situation as this will take away from when someone truly makes a racist remark later on.
He has been trying to avoid his race on as an issue but people are the ones that keep bringing it up. You are fucking dumb.

[se1046]

He has been trying to avoid his race on as an issue but people are the ones that keep bringing it up. You are fucking dumb.

Yeah like his supporters --- Nas.

P.S. Why is it that you have to insult people just to try to make a point? Is it because you really have no logical thought process or is it just that that makes you feel better about your candidate?

[se1046]

I would just like to point out that when Barack Obama won his seat in the Senate Michelle Obama called Barack her Baby's Daddy. So I see nothing wrong in what fox did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnMrJwUCZDk


Great post.

[Machu505]

Unfunny racist joke is unfunny and racist.

[Killadelphia]

I found the joke to just be unfunny, not really racist.

If certain people didn't want slang to be used by anyone other than themselves, they shouldn't have used it.

In the end, Fox News and every other media outlet pretty much sucks.

[se1046]

What's funny is Obama's wife started the whole thing! And you are still calling fox news racist!

[Love As Arson]

Simply because African-Americans play to the racial stereotypes or make jokes about them does not mean those stereotypes are less racist. Incidentally, I'd like to know what a "truly racist remark" is, because if one is waiting for more blatant attacks on race, then they're going to miss the coded language that is so often used when speaking about minorities.

[lightcollapse]

What's funny is Obama's wife started the whole thing! And you are still calling fox news racist!

michelle obama made a joke. fox news obviously used that headline to convey a racial stereotype. unfunny and racist.

[Machu505]

What's funny is Obama's wife started the whole thing! And you are still calling fox news racist!

I hope you become a minority overnight.

[Killadelphia]

People should go after Three Six Mafia and the producers of Tina Fey movie as well.

On a serious note, though I don't think it was exactly racist, but it was definitely inappropriate. I don't want to sound like I am defending Fox News, but I do know Fox News is not the only news channel that has had inappropriate headlines. Sometimes, I feel like they do it on purpose now. People who hate Fox news seem to watch it more than the people who don't.

[open mind]

People should go after Three Six Mafia and the producers of Tina Fey movie as well.

On a serious note, though I don't think it was exactly racist, but it was definitely inappropriate. I don't want to sound like I am defending Fox News, but I do know Fox News is not the only news channel that has had inappropriate headlines. Sometimes, I feel like they do it on purpose now. People who hate Fox news seem to watch it more than the people who don't.

you could argue that it was simply inappropriate.......but they wouldn't have said something so inappropriate if it wasn't for an underlying racist mentality.

[saysmydoctor]

What's funny is Obama's wife started the whole thing! And you are still calling fox news racist!
Red herring, two wrongs don't make a right. Try again without being fallacious.

[Killadelphia]

you could argue that it was simply inappropriate.......but they wouldn't have said something so inappropriate if it wasn't for an underlying racist mentality.

Probably true. It is hard to say that it wasn't a response to how she referenced Barack Obama either. It was just a really bad joke, but it is hard for me to say that Fox News is the one who spits out racist remarks.

[open mind]

Probably true. It is hard to say that it wasn't a response to how she referenced Barack Obama either. It was just a really bad joke, but it is hard for me to say that Fox News is the one who spits out racist remarks.

if i as a native alaskan say that all native alaskans are just a bunch of spear chucking drunks........it doesn't make what i said less racist or it ok for a white person to say it......and if they agree with it and/or repeat it they're still being racist.

[Killadelphia]

if i as a native alaskan say that all native alaskans are just a bunch of spear chucking drunks........it doesn't make what i said less racist or it ok for a white person to say it......and if they agree with it and/or repeat it they're still being racist.

I understand that, I didn't say it was, but if it wasn't Fox News, it would not have been as blown out of proportion.

[open mind]

I understand that, I didn't say it was, but if it wasn't Fox News, it would not have been as blown out of proportion.

yeah, habitual offenders (in this case consistently shitty journalists) tend to get hammered harder then those who make occasional slips.

[Killadelphia]

yeah, habitual offenders (in this case consistently shitty journalists) tend to get hammered harder then those who make occasional slips.

true.

[x togepi x]

I understand that, I didn't say it was, but if it wasn't Fox News, it would not have been as blown out of proportion.


this isn't true at all. If someone like Glenn Beck said this on CNN or Micheal Savage did on his radio show, there'd still be a mess. This isn't being "blown out of porportion at all" because it's disrespectful purely based on race. You're not seeing any slanders against McCain's wife.

[lauren<3s music]

I don't understand how anyone can actually claim that Fox is a legitimate news source. I hope the Obama's go after Fox for that comment.

[The Revisionist]

It was unprofessional for sure. If we want to get into race though... at the risk of sounding pretty damn trashy myself, I've watched a lot of Maury in the past year or two and the term "baby mama" is thrown around by numerous races. Urban Dictionary also doesn't mention race at all in any one of their seven user-submitted definitions.

I don't know, I didn't read that and think of a specific race. That's just me though.

[Killadelphia]

It was unprofessional for sure. If we want to get into race though... at the risk of sounding pretty damn trashy myself, I've watched a lot of Maury in the past year or two and the term "baby mama" is thrown around by numerous races. Urban Dictionary also doesn't mention race at all in any one of their seven user-submitted definitions.

I don't know, I didn't read that and think of a specific race. That's just me though.

Exactly. If Baby Daddy never came out of her mouth, I doubt it would have ever been used. Now I am not saying two wrongs do not make it right, but the term baby mama isn't racial at all.

[The Revisionist]

It's possible. I had no idea that Michelle had said that before Fox used it, but I guess "baby mama" has no race-specific connotations to me. I just read it and figured that, in our terrible mainstream-news world where the most important aspect is the eye-catching headline, they were just using rhyming to help viewers remember that headline.

I don't know if that makes me non-racist or naive... haha.

[x togepi x]

Exactly. If Baby Daddy never came out of her mouth, I doubt it would have ever been used. Now I am not saying two wrongs do not make it right, but the term baby mama isn't racial at all.

You seriously don't think this is racially motivated at all? So like, if McCain's wife jokingly referred to herself as a bitch, Fox News would start referring to her as John McCain's bitch?

[Killadelphia]

You seriously don't think this is racially motivated at all? So like, if McCain's wife jokingly referred to herself as a bitch, Fox News would start referring to her as John McCain's bitch?

That was a pretty poor comparison.

Listen, I don't want to defend fox news, but if John McCain's wife referred to McCain as her baby's daddy, I would not be surprised if someone used it later.

[Killadelphia]

That’s exactly what Barack Obama said he would do to counter Republican attacks “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said at a Philadelphia fundraiser Friday night. “Because from what I understand folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”

Way to generalize too Barack.

http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=4b0d3a69-1f68-4bf9-9d04-4ba991905f07

[se1046]

michelle obama made a joke. fox news obviously used that headline to convey a racial stereotype. unfunny and racist.

Incredible. It's a joke when a black person says it. It's not when Fox News says it. Makes perfect sense. Maybe you're being a little biased?

[lightcollapse]

Incredible. It's a joke when a black person says it. It's not when Fox News says it. Makes perfect sense. Maybe you're being a little biased?

no. it's a joke when she's poking fun at herself. it's not a joke when fox news, an openly conservative news source, uses it in a context that sounds like a racial stereotype. not funny. racist.

[x togepi x]

That was a pretty poor comparison.

Listen, I don't want to defend fox news, but if John McCain's wife referred to McCain as her baby's daddy, I would not be surprised if someone used it later.

You're forgetting that there's another connotation of the term, which basically means pregnant slut. So i guess change it to "if McCain's wife said she was a slut as a joke, do you honestly think Fox News would call her one?"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baby+momma

[Killadelphia]

You're forgetting that there's another connotation of the term, which basically means pregnant slut. So i guess change it to "if McCain's wife said she was a slut as a joke, do you honestly think Fox News would call her one?"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baby+momma

Haha, you linked a site where anyone could put anything for a word.

Jelly Donut - When a girl or guy (for all you **** out there) gets cum in the face & then is punched in the nose or lip to mix cum & blood to make pink pearl jam. From the same site.

[x togepi x]

Haha, you linked a site where anyone could put anything for a word.

Jelly Donut - When a girl or guy (for all you **** out there) gets cum in the face & then is punched in the nose or lip to mix cum & blood to make pink pearl jam. From the same site.

Two out of the three definitions are pretty offensive to an educated, married woman. While anyone could type anything there, I would say that considering it's slang and most of the definitions on the site for the term agree with the way i'm claiming its used, that it's a fair argument for me to be making. The fact that people typed this definition shows it has this connotation.

[koala72]

I wish we had outrageously biased media outlets in Australia.
oh but we do! The Age newspaper in Melbourne my friend. If you are left wing and want consistent bashing of conservatives its your type of paper. There is probably the equivalent in Canbera / Sydeny.

[Nevuk]

McCain already called his wife a cunt. And fox news hasn't referred to her by that term, although both are pretty offensive.

[saysmydoctor]

Source?

[catscradle]

no. it's a joke when she's poking fun at herself. it's not a joke when fox news, an openly conservative news source, uses it in a context that sounds like a racial stereotype. not funny. racist.

winner.

[xshady121]

He has been trying to avoid his race on as an issue but people are the ones that keep bringing it up. You are fucking dumb.

I'm trying to say this is a small incident. If he (or anyone really) goes around crying "racism" at anything that could even remotely be twisted into something resembling a racist remark, then when a real blatant obvious one does come around (like the curious george shirts), then people will just go "oh come on, i'm sick of hearing about racism already". It's the boy who cried wolf situation.

[xshady121]

You seriously don't think this is racially motivated at all? So like, if McCain's wife jokingly referred to herself as a bitch, Fox News would start referring to her as John McCain's bitch?

Why does everything have to be racially motivated when dealing with minorities? It can't possibly be a news source using her own words as a caption? News companies do that all the time. Capitalize on politicians faux paxs and turn them into their headlines.. I wasn't aware that "baby mama" only applied to black people. Maybe someone should have told Tina Fey that..

[x togepi x]

Why does everything have to be racially motivated when dealing with minorities?

I don't know why news networks are still race baiting in 2008. That's a legit question.

It can't possibly be a news source using her own words as a caption?
News companies do that all the time. Capitalize on politicians faux paxs and turn them into their headlines.. I wasn't aware that "baby mama" only applied to black people. Maybe someone should have told Tina Fey that..

You're an idiot.

Do you honestly think Fox News is acting with the utmost respect towards Michelle Obama by calling her a "baby mama?" Like I said, and nobody has responded to, do you honestly think if McCain's wife referred to herself as a slut in a joke that Fox News would be like "McCain's slut said blah blah blah"?

[x togepi x]

I'm trying to say this is a small incident. If he (or anyone really) goes around crying "racism" at anything that could even remotely be twisted into something resembling a racist remark, then when a real blatant obvious one does come around (like the curious george shirts), then people will just go "oh come on, i'm sick of hearing about racism already". It's the boy who cried wolf situation.

except for this doesn't happen. The theory of desensitization that you're talking about has been disproved in media theory. People have been talking about racism forever, but people aren't being like "meh racism". Even if you look at the so-called "small incidents" and "playing the race card" that's been happening since the 1990s, you don't see this desensitization occurring. How long do we have to wait? 18 years sure wasn't enough.

i'm so fucking tired of people not recognizing white privilege it's not even funny.

[xshady121]

I don't know why news networks are still race baiting in 2008. That's a legit question.



You're an idiot.

Do you honestly think Fox News is acting with the utmost respect towards Michelle Obama by calling her a "baby mama?" Like I said, and nobody has responded to, do you honestly think if McCain's wife referred to herself as a slut in a joke that Fox News would be like "McCain's slut said blah blah blah"?

Who would refer to themselves as a slut, even as a joke. Certainly not a politician, or their wife. Come up with a reasonable example. However, It's Michelle Obama's fault for exposing herself to that. Why put yourself in that position.

And sure, Fox may not be showing the utmost respect towards Obama. But how many news outlets have done the same to the Republicans. You can't have it both ways.

[xshady121]

except for this doesn't happen. The theory of desensitization that you're talking about has been disproved in media theory. People have been talking about racism forever, but people aren't being like "meh racism". Even if you look at the so-called "small incidents" and "playing the race card" that's been happening since the 1990s, you don't see this desensitization occurring. How long do we have to wait? 18 years sure wasn't enough.

i'm so fucking tired of people not recognizing white privilege it's not even funny.

But why does everything have to be an issue of race? It just can't simply be a reference to something she said? I don't get why everything has to ultimately come back to race? It's this thought that everything has some ulterior "racist" motive that is stopping America from moving beyond it. Just look at Al Sharpton.

[Machu505]

Source?

The Real McCain: Why Conservatives Don't Trust Him and Why Independents Shouldn't (http://www.amazon.com/Real-McCain-Conservatives-Independents-Shouldnt/dp/0979482291/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213738917&sr=8-1)

"At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt."

It was on The Daily Show.

[Jason Tate]

That was a pretty poor comparison.

Listen, I don't want to defend fox news, but if John McCain's wife referred to McCain as her baby's daddy, I would not be surprised if someone used it later.
No, in McCain's case you'd have a few other people that aren't his wife calling him her baby's daddy.

[se1046]

No, in McCain's case you'd have a few other people that aren't his wife calling him her baby's daddy.

Well, well, well... we are complaining about an inappropriate joke, and low and behold Mr. Jason Tate makes a joke that should be deemed as unacceptable. However, I'm sure I will see the hordes of brainwashed drones (liberals) laughing this one off.

[se1046]

Also for those saying he's been trying to avoid the race card this whole time... why is he at all black churches preaching about fatherhood? Is that really avoiding your race? It seems like he's embracing it to me.

[Jason Tate]

Well, well, well... we are complaining about an inappropriate joke, and low and behold Mr. Jason Tate makes a joke that should be deemed as unacceptable. However, I'm sure I will see the hordes of brainwashed drones (liberals) laughing this one off.
It's not a joke in my example nor used as a joke in the Fox example.

Keep trying.

[se1046]

It's not a joke in my example nor used as a joke in the Fox example.

Keep trying.

What would you call it then?

[Jason Tate]

Also for those saying he's been trying to avoid the race card this whole time... why is he at all black churches preaching about fatherhood? Is that really avoiding your race? It seems like he's embracing it to me.
Embracing one's race and playing the "race card" are not the same thing.

[Jason Tate]

What would you call it then?
In my example, a fact.

And in Fox's case? Propaganda.

[lauren<3s music]

While not Fox related, I thought I'd share another clip of the lovely racism our country continues to spout, and the lack of coverage it receives...

At a Republican convention they sold this pin....

http://i25.tinypic.com/33lcdgg.jpg

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/06/stick-a-pin-in-it.html

[loveisdead]

While not Fox related, I thought I'd share another clip of the lovely racism our country continues to spout, and the lack of coverage it receives...

At a Republican convention they sold this pin....



http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/06/stick-a-pin-in-it.html

That's awful.

[MorningWillCome]

Nice Toothpaste for Dinner signature :)

toothpaste for dinner!
for sure.

[LastPlaceRocks]

While not Fox related, I thought I'd share another clip of the lovely racism our country continues to spout, and the lack of coverage it receives...

At a Republican convention they sold this pin....

http://i25.tinypic.com/33lcdgg.jpg

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/06/stick-a-pin-in-it.html

That's low, although the "Press 1 for English, Press 2 for Deportation" one is just as bad. At least the Texas Republican Party's not letting the vendor who sold the racist Obama pin sell at any more of their events.

[saysmydoctor]

Republicans got wit, got to give them that.

[shit stroll]

that pin is not that funny.... at all.

[saysmydoctor]

Not saying it is, but it's definitely witty. I'm not approving of it at all, just like that Obama Monkey.

[The_kok]

I'm surprised they didn't sell one with obama hanging on a tree with a fork up his ass

[TheOtherAndrew]

While not Fox related, I thought I'd share another clip of the lovely racism our country continues to spout, and the lack of coverage it receives...

At a Republican convention they sold this pin....

http://i25.tinypic.com/33lcdgg.jpg

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/06/stick-a-pin-in-it.html
Oh. Because he's black.

[lauren<3s music]

That's awful.

indeed

That's low, although the "Press 1 for English, Press 2 for Deportation" one is just as bad. At least the Texas Republican Party's not letting the vendor who sold the racist Obama pin sell at any more of their events.

agreed, but it's still disturbing. you'd think they would have seen this and automatically kicked them out. i mean really.

Oh. Because he's black.

indeed. i wonder what will happen if we have a purple president

[Jared Kaufman]

Not saying it is, but it's definitely witty. I'm not approving of it at all, just like that Obama Monkey.
You consider that witty?

I could've thought that up when I was in kindergarten.

[se1046]

Embracing one's race and playing the "race card" are not the same thing.

He didn't have to talk to an all black church about fatherhood... there are plenty of terrible white fathers that haven't been around...

[se1046]

In my example, a fact.

And in Fox's case? Propaganda.

Oh so michelle obama is not the mother of his children. OK :ok:

[shit stroll]

He didn't have to talk to an all black church about fatherhood... there are plenty of terrible white fathers that haven't been around...
holy fucking shit.

[Jason Tate]

Oh so there are no michelle obama is not the mother of his children. OK :ok:
You need to actually form a sentence if you want me to be able to read it.

[Jason Tate]

He didn't have to talk to an all black church about fatherhood... there are plenty of terrible white fathers that haven't been around...
Um ... ok. True. And completely irrelevant to this discussion. Taking this in a completely different direction now?

[nfggc10]

He didn't have to talk to an all black church about fatherhood... there are plenty of terrible white fathers that haven't been around...What does that even mean? That's like criticizing someone for going to a Cancer benefit instead of an AIDS one.

[se1046]

What does that even mean? That's like criticizing someone for going to a Cancer benefit instead of an AIDS one.

I'm just saying if that's not playing the race card, then what is.

[nfggc10]

I'm just saying if that's not playing the race card, then what is.I'm beginning to think you don't understand what people mean when they use the term "race card." What is wrong with speaking at an all black church? Who's to say he hasn't done the same at a church whose members are all white? Why should any of this even matter to you?

[Jason Tate]

I'm just saying if that's not playing the race card, then what is.
Someone actually playing the race card.

[se1046]

Someone actually playing the race card.

Like he did? Was Michelle Obama's comment "baby's daddy" playing the race card since Fox News made a racist joke?

[se1046]

You need to actually form a sentence if you want me to be able to read it.

I edited that... at least it says so on my screen.

[LastPlaceRocks]

agreed, but it's still disturbing. you'd think they would have seen this and automatically kicked them out. i mean really.
Agreed.


indeed. i wonder what will happen if we have a purple president
I don't know, but unless Grimace is running in 2012 we'll be okay.

[lauren<3s music]

Agreed.



I don't know, but unless Grimace is running in 2012 we'll be okay.

odder things have happened

[LastPlaceRocks]

odder things have happened
I can't think of anything odder than a fictional purple being running for President. Although based on those McDonald's commercials, he probably wouldn't be the dumbest Presidential candidate.

[lauren<3s music]

I can't think of anything odder than a fictional purple being running for President. Although based on those McDonald's commercials, he probably wouldn't be the dumbest Presidential candidate.

i'm biting my tongue. too easy

[LastPlaceRocks]

i'm biting my tongue. too easy
Yeah it is. But getting back on subject, I wonder how Fox News could spin Grimace's run for the White House - maybe paint him as being soft on crime via being friends with the Hamburglar?

[lauren<3s music]

Yeah it is. But getting back on subject, I wonder how Fox News could spin Grimace's run for the White House - maybe paint him as being soft on crime via being friends with the Hamburglar?

They'll just change the pin slightly....

[x togepi x]

Who would refer to themselves as a slut, even as a joke. Certainly not a politician, or their wife. Come up with a reasonable example.

so the crux of your argument is "well you can't come up with an example that *I* think would happen, so you're wrong." That's kind of asinine, especially since i never thought she would refer to Obama as her baby's daddy.

However, It's Michelle Obama's fault for exposing herself to that. Why put yourself in that position.

Ah yes, blame the victim. That's the logical route to take.

It's really FNC's fault because they're reporting this for no real reason other than to make her look bad. I mean how newsworthy is this little phrase? Does her referring to him like that give some vital insight into how he's going to handle the Israeli-Palestinian crisis? Does him being a baby's daddy make him pro-national healthcare? i don't get it.

And sure, Fox may not be showing the utmost respect towards Obama. But how many news outlets have done the same to the Republicans. You can't have it both ways.

there's actually a big difference here because the media still uses kid gloves on Bush/republicans. When Bush misspeaks and says something stupid (instead of when he says dumb things on purpose), you don't see people using his words in headlines like this. The only people that are really picking up on his mispeaking are places like the Daily show, which aren't really news.

but even if i'm wrong here, there's infinitely more respect given to Republicans by the media since the media isn't fucking attacking their wives. They attacked Teresa Kerry in 04. They attacked Hillary Clinton during the Clinton presidency and now they're attacking Michelle Obama. How often has the media been critical of Laura Bush? Or Cindy McCain? I'm sure we could find things that they could be criticizing them about, but they aren't doing it.

but why does everything have to be an issue of race? It just can't simply be a reference to something she said? I don't get why everything has to ultimately come back to race? It's this thought that everything has some ulterior "racist" motive that is stopping America from moving beyond it. Just look at Al Sharpton.

oh come on. this is fox news, they've been peddling racism for years, and have already made racist attacks against obama like the "terrorist fist bump". Maybe if it were another news organization doing this, i wouldn't be as inclined to think it was racist (still i poor taste), but this is like hearing a Klansman say the n-word and you replying "he's not being racist, he's just rapping".

but in all seriousness, the reason this is racially motivated is FNC was using ghetto slang and pointing out that Michelle Obama used it to casually remind viewers that she's black, and fit her into a stereotype that she obviously doesn't fit in.

I don't see how anyone can "play the race card" since every time anyone talks about racism anyway, it becomes an uphill battle to prove one isn't playing the race card.

[x togepi x]

Cindy McCain was a drug addict. (http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/?ses=a966eb0f85dca77f202d5ea8d14a4a 8e#88889) So, do you think Fox News will start referring to her in that way? "drug addict Cindy McCain said..." somehow i doubt it.

[Killadelphia]

Haha no, but at least the stoners can relate with her now.

[LastPlaceRocks]

No, but this may officially make painkillers the conservative drug of choice.

[Killadelphia]

They worked for Brett Favre!

[x togepi x]

rich people love that shit.

[LastPlaceRocks]

They worked for Brett Favre!
That's probably where Rush got it then - you know it wasn't the media's favorite son Donovan McNabb.

[Killadelphia]

McNabb has enough bad publicity around here outside of football.

1 - doesn't know how to tip properly.

[LastPlaceRocks]

Wait, they don't love McNabb in Philadelphia?

[Killadelphia]

Wait, they don't love McNabb in Philadelphia?

lol, no.

[LastPlaceRocks]

Actually I'd be more amazed if they actually love anyone in Philadelphia.

[Killadelphia]

Actually I'd be more amazed if they actually love anyone in Philadelphia.

They love a lot of people. They love people that always seem to give their best effort. People used to hat Burrell, but they like his emotions now. They love Chase Utley. They love Brian Dawkins. They love Westbrook. They love every Flyer not named Lasse Kukkonen or Jim Dowd. They just care about 100% effort, you give it and we can see it, you'll be cheered.

People are behind Westbrook bitching about his contract. In fact, there are some Philly fans who'd prefer to have Owens over McNabb if they had to chose.

McNabb has been real mouthy and has continuously talked shit on Philly.

[LastPlaceRocks]

They love a lot of people. They love people that always seem to give their best effort. People used to hat Burrell, but they like his emotions now. They love Chase Utley. They love Brian Dawkins. They love Westbrook. They love every Flyer not named Lasse Kukkonen or Jim Dowd. They just care about 100% effort, you give it and we can see it, you'll be cheered.

People are behind Westbrook bitching about his contract. In fact, there are some Philly fans who'd prefer to have Owens over McNabb if they had to chose.

McNabb has been real mouthy and has continuously talked shit on Philly.
Well that proves me wrong.

On another note, I used to love Westbrook before he cost me fifty dollars.

[Killadelphia]

Well that proves me wrong.

On another note, I used to love Westbrook before he cost me fifty dollars.

Yeah, that's the funny thing and Philly players have begun to understand. We boo the result, not necessarily the person. It's just some guys always make a bad result.

McNabb isn't booed, but he isn't loved. Largely because he's always hurt and opens his mouth a lot to try and stir the pot.

[zachzachzach]

Cindy McCain was a drug addict. (http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/?ses=a966eb0f85dca77f202d5ea8d14a4a 8e#88889) So, do you think Fox News will start referring to her in that way? "drug addict Cindy McCain said..." somehow i doubt it.

Ok I don't post on here a lot, but that is not even close to the same thing. Here is a recap of the events:

Michelle Obama introduces her husband as her baby's daddy.
FoxNews then makes a joke that is not all that funny about THE WORDS SHE SAID.
A group of people want to cry racism.

I can see why that would be considered racism though. I mean why would anyone anywhere do such a horrible thing as make a joke about what someone else has said? She is black so it makes it especially bad! Those silly racists at FoxNews, how dare they!!

[x togepi x]

Ok I don't post on here a lot, but that is not even close to the same thing. Here is a recap of the events:

Michelle Obama introduces her husband as her baby's daddy.
FoxNews then makes a joke that is not all that funny about THE WORDS SHE SAID.
A group of people want to cry racism.

You obviously don't post here since you don't know what you're talking about. This is some weak ass analysis of what transpired in this thread.

What happened here was this: someone made the point that FNC was merely reporting on Michelle Obama's missteps (in this case, calling Obama her baby's daddy). I pointed out that this probably wouldn't happen if something came out that made Cindy McCain look bad. Here's a major Cindy McCain missstep (stealing drugs meant for the third world is a pretty big deal).

We're not seeing Fox News call Cindy McCain a drug addict, which proves my point. You're getting caught up in the details and missing the main point. Much like you can make the claim that Michelle Obama ACTUALLY SAID those words, I can make the claim that Cindy McCain ACTUALLY WAS a drug addict. So why isn't fox addressing her as such?

I can see why that would be considered racism though. I mean why would anyone anywhere do such a horrible thing as make a joke about what someone else has said? She is black so it makes it especially bad! Those silly racists at FoxNews, how dare they!!

It's a racist joke, especially when you consider the other racist things Fox News says and does about the Obama family, like claim they're Muslim (with the assumption that being Muslim is bad) or the terrorist fist bump thing. Like i said before, we can't really give fox the benefit of the doubt here given its track record.

[LastPlaceRocks]

You obviously don't post here since you don't know what you're talking about. This is some weak ass analysis of what transpired in this thread.

What happened here was this: someone made the point that FNC was merely reporting on Michelle Obama's missteps (in this case, calling Obama her baby's daddy). I pointed out that this probably wouldn't happen if something came out that made Cindy McCain look bad. Here's a major Cindy McCain missstep (stealing drugs meant for the third world is a pretty big deal).

We're not seeing Fox News call Cindy McCain a drug addict, which proves my point. You're getting caught up in the details and missing the main point. Much like you can make the claim that Michelle Obama ACTUALLY SAID those words, I can make the claim that Cindy McCain ACTUALLY WAS a drug addict. So why isn't fox addressing her as such?
It goes against the company line.

[wolfXbeast]

could one argue the point that Fox was just trying to sound cool? Using slang from a decade ago, trying to lure in all you youngsters?

Fox is like the old man trying to connect to his son. They buy a leather jacket, spike their hair with gel, attempt to like hardcore music and pull their dicks out to show your 15 year old girlfriend. No matter what they do, they wont be cool. They will only embarrass you, but nonetheless, they are still your father.

anyone?

[Nevuk]

could one argue the point that Fox was just trying to sound cool? Using slang from a decade ago, trying to lure in all you youngsters?

Fox is like the old man trying to connect to his son. They buy a leather jacket, spike their hair with gel, attempt to like hardcore music and pull their dicks out to show your 15 year old girlfriend. No matter what they do, they wont be cool. They will only embarrass you, but nonetheless, they are still your father.

anyone?
Um, your dad sounds like a creep.

[lauren<3s music]

Um, your dad sounds like a creep.

:appl:

[wolfXbeast]

Um, your dad sounds like a creep.

are we not even considering sarcasm around here anymore?

i did not realize this thread was too serious for jokes

[TK]

are we not even considering sarcasm around here anymore?

i did not realize this thread was too serious for jokes

I believe that was a joke:rolleyes:

[wolfXbeast]

I believe that was a joke:rolleyes:

wait, which one? mine? theirs?

[boykosaurus]

Oh God, is that the woman who made the big deal about the Rachel Ray Kufiya?

[Skadrist]

Oh God, is that the woman who made the big deal about the Rachel Ray Kufiya?

Keffiyeh. Michelle Malkin is a huge tool we are talking about a woman who wrote a book supporting the internment of Japanese-Americans in World War II despite the fact that all of them were loyal to the US. On to the flak that she gave to the keffiyeh Rachael Ray wore, should we change Lawrance of Arabia's cover since he is wearing one?

[boykosaurus]

Keffiyeh. Michelle Malkin is a huge tool we are talking about a woman who wrote a book supporting the internment of Japanese-Americans in World War II despite the fact that all of them were loyal to the US. On to the flak that she gave to the keffiyeh Rachael Ray wore, should we change Lawrance of Arabia's cover since he is wearing one?

Sorry, colloquial Arabic took over. Yeah, I can't stand the woman though, I just can't describe how frustrating it is to hear her bat-shit crazy opinions.