Black Sabbath is the best band of all time

[born to expire]

Discuss.

[xmadeofstonex]

I dunno about that but they're lightyears better than most of the shit talked about on here.

[dustyfloors]

I disagree.

[GuitarR0cker1]

No

[secretsociety92]

Not the best but are definitely up there with the best.

[born to expire]

I thought this was an accepted truth.

[hailthewarrior]

Not the best, but according to Vh1 they're the second most influential rock band of all time, right behind Led Zep.

[born to expire]

Every riff written after about 1974 was already written by Tony Iommi.

[Brokenhill]

I thought this was an accepted truth.


It's not like you made this about Pink Floyd, now. I mean come on, what did you expect?

[xmadeofstonex]

Ashhahahah Wait Are You Trying To Say That You Think Pink Floyd Is The Best Band Of All Time!?

[Brokenhill]

Ashhahahah Wait Are You Trying To Say That You Think Pink Floyd Is The Best Band Of All Time!?


Yes.

PF > BS

[born to expire]

It's not like you made this about Pink Floyd, now. I mean come on, what did you expect?

I like Pink Floyd a lot, but no.

[thespearkid]

Black Sabbath is good but not the best of all time. I've never been able to get into Pink Floyd though. Listened to The Wall and Dark Side of the Moon straight through and just didn't enjoy either.

[Brokenhill]

Black Sabbath is good but not the best of all time. I've never been able to get into Pink Floyd though. Listened to The Wall and Dark Side of the Moon straight through and just didn't enjoy either.


Well that's 2 of 14 studio albums...and you only listened once through.

[hockeyguitar99]

disagree

saying any band is the best of all time is going to start arguments

[bowl of oranges]

The Beatles are the best band of all time.
Black Sabbath is over-rated

/thread

[Superunknown]

Iron Maiden > Black Sabbath Black Sabbath were more influential. But I'd rather listen to Iron Maiden. Ozzy's voice irritates me.

[Tyler Revolution]

This thread is funny.

[xmadeofstonex]

God so many terrible things are being said in this thread.

[born to expire]

The Beatles are the best band of all time.
Black Sabbath is over-rated

/thread

uhhh what?

I like the Beatles, but talk about overrated. So much of their music is so dated too.

[born to expire]

Iron Maiden > Black Sabbath Black Sabbath were more influential. But I'd rather listen to Iron Maiden. Ozzy's voice irritates me.

Maiden is great, but Sabbath is definitely better.

[SLoT]

Incorrect.

[MADSTA]

Nah.

[born to expire]

I forgot what website I was on-- this shouldn't have been such a surprise to me. Guarantee most of you haven't heard all of the albums Ozzy sang on.

[chipdip18]

The Beatles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Black Sabbath

[KatieKutthroat.]

uhhh what?

I like the Beatles, but talk about overrated. So much of their music is so dated too.

So you're saying that Black Sabbath was better than the Beatles? Give me a break.

The Beatles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Black Sabbath

Truth.

[Fin.]

The Beatles. Look at the combination of their critical acclaim, influence, sales, hits, experimentation, etc. No one even comes close.

And how can you say their music is dated? They are the number 2 biggest selling artist on the soundscan era (1991-current). Millions and millions of people will disagree with them being dated. Their music is timeless.

[Tyler Revolution]

I forgot what website I was on-- this shouldn't have been such a surprise to me. Guarantee most of you haven't heard all of the albums Ozzy sang on.

His solo work and Black Sabbath material combined, he's been on like 25+ albums. I'm a fan of Sabbath, but hearing every album Ozzy has sang on is fairly pointless and some of the stuff is a waste of time.

[Tyler Revolution]

The Beatles. Look at the combination of their critical acclaim, influence, sales, hits, experimentation, etc. No one even comes close.

And how can you say their music is dated? They are the number 2 biggest selling artist on the soundscan era (1991-current). Millions and millions of people will disagree with them being dated. Their music is timeless.

Worldwide, the Beatles have sold more records than any other artist/band.

[born to expire]

So you're saying that Black Sabbath was better than the Beatles? Give me a break.



Yes, Black Sabbath is better than the Beatles.

[KatieKutthroat.]

Yes, Black Sabbath is better than the Beatles.

lol. that's funny.

[born to expire]

His solo work and Black Sabbath material combined, he's been on like 25+ albums. I'm a fan of Sabbath, but hearing every album Ozzy has sang on is fairly pointless and some of the stuff is a waste of time.

I agree. My point was that most people probably haven't heard anything but "Iron Man" and "Paranoid."

s/t, Master of Reality, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Vol. 4, and Paranoid are classics.

[born to expire]

lol. that's funny.

lol

[Yes. And?]

Black Sabbath > The Beatles. Screw you all.

[noideas]

I agree. My point was that most people probably haven't heard anything but "Iron Man" and "Paranoid."

s/t, Master of Reality, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Vol. 4, and Paranoid are classics.

So how can you say that they are the best band ever when most people haven't even heard a whole album? Where is the far reaching impact? Either you are wrong in saying they are the best band ever or you are wrong in accusing most people of not ever hearing their music. I don't think both these statements can be true.

[Yes. And?]

Are you honestly asking where the far reaching impact lies in Black Sabbath's music? :eyebrow:

[chipdip18]

Black Sabbath > The Beatles. Screw you all.

Please explain why.

[noideas]

Are you honestly asking where the far reaching impact lies in Black Sabbath's music? :eyebrow:

Only if it is true that the vast majority of people have only heard two songs.

[Tyler Revolution]

Please explain why.

I would also like her to answer, it should be comical.

[Yes. And?]

Only if it is true that the vast majority of people have only heard two songs.
I might be wrong, but it seemed to me he was referring to the vast majority of people on this site.

[born to expire]

So how can you say that they are the best band ever when most people haven't even heard a whole album? Where is the far reaching impact? Either you are wrong in saying they are the best band ever or you are wrong in accusing most people of not ever hearing their music. I don't think both these statements can be true.

Black Sabbath is the best band to ever play music. They made the best music EVER. Their music is better than that of the Beatles. That is my point. I don't really care if some 16 or 17 year old has never heard their albums-- that's their loss.

Black Sabbath's influence is enormous. Every single "rock" (metal, hardcore/punk, etc.) band formed after about 1970 or 1971 owes something to Sabbath.

EDIT: Even the Beastie Boys sampled Sabbath.

[Tyler Revolution]

Black Sabbath is the best band to ever play music. They made the best music EVER. Their music is better than that of the Beatles. That is my point. I don't really care if some 16 or 17 year old has never heard their albums-- that's their loss.

Black Sabbath's influence is enormous. Every single "rock" (metal, hardcore/punk, etc.) band formed after about 1970 or 1971 owes something to Sabbath.

And Sabbath owes a lot to the Beatles. You honestly think Sabbath influenced more artists than the Beatles? You think they were more initiative than the Beatles?

[born to expire]

And Sabbath owes a lot to the Beatles.

What's your point? I like the Beatles to some extent... Black Sabbath is just a better band.

[noideas]

I might be wrong, but it seemed to me he was referring to the vast majority of people on this site.

So are you saying the people on this site are less likely to listen to music than people who don't regularly visit a website devoted to music? I just feel his points are contradictory.

[Tyler Revolution]

What's your point? I like the Beatles to some extent... Black Sabbath is just a better band.

How though?

[chipdip18]

How though?

Yes. How?

[born to expire]

So are you saying the people on this site are less likely to listen to music than people who don't regularly visit a website devoted to music? I just feel his points are contradictory.

Yes. Most of the people on the site only listen to the bands that are promoted on this site and their influences. It's going to be difficult to find more than 5 or 10 people on here who love stoner metal, for example. As much as people like to think this is a messageboard where people talk about all types of music, it's not.

When HellFest was canceled a few years ago and a secret show in NJ was announced for that Sunday, most people on this site thought it was going to be Taking Back Sunday or Brand New. It was obviously going to be Lifetime. Now, everyone on here loves Lifetime. Don't kid yourself.

[born to expire]

How though?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WG0PVoTJZHs

the riffs....

jesus christ... the riffs.

so amazing

[chipdip18]

Quit paying attention to the sheep on this site perhaps?

[Tyler Revolution]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WG0PVoTJZHs

the riffs....

jesus christ... the riffs.

so amazing

Haha, if "riffs" are what you think make a band the best of all time, then we're done talking.

[chipdip18]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WG0PVoTJZHs

the riffs....

jesus christ... the riffs.

so amazing

Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley, and Jimi Hendrix had better riffs.

[born to expire]

You guys are insane.

I've also never seen people get so butt hurt before. Listen to Sabbath, some day you will thank me.

[Superunknown]

You can't really compare the two bands. But it's obvious that The Beatles made more of an impact and were more influential. Well I would hope it is.

[chipdip18]

You guys are insane.

I've also never seen people get so butt hurt before. Listen to Sabbath, some day you will thank me.


Perhaps..... i know this is a crazy thought.... You are the insane one?

[TheOtherAndrew]

rofl @ this thread

[born to expire]

Black Sabbath created an entire genre with 3 notes. Listen to "Black Sabbath." No one else was playing like that before. That album came out in fucking 1970 dude... 1970.

And it's not only the riffs-- my tone was pretty sarcastic in that post. I'm sorry if it didn't translate well over the internet.

[Tyler Revolution]

You guys are insane.

I've also never seen people get so butt hurt before. Listen to Sabbath, some day you will thank me.

Your arguments make me giggle.

[born to expire]

Perhaps..... i know this is a crazy thought.... You are the insane one?

The bottom line is that I guarantee you have never heard a complete Sabbath album. Prove me wrong. You've yet to tell me what isn't amazing about Black Sabbath; whereas, I can sit here and tell you what I do and don't like about the Beatles.

[Tyler Revolution]

Black Sabbath created an entire genre with 3 notes. Listen to "Black Sabbath." No one else was playing like that before. That album came out in fucking 1970 dude... 1970.

And it's not only the riffs-- my tone was pretty sarcastic in that post. I'm sorry if it didn't translate well over the internet.

So they're the first? In 1970? What genre did they create?

[born to expire]

So they're the first? In 1970? What genre did they create?

I hope you are being sarcastic.

[born to expire]

Your arguments make me giggle.

It's much easier to gang up on someone's opinion with the help of 3 or 4 more people on a messageboard. If we were on any other music site, there would be at least an equal amount of people on both sides.

[chipdip18]

That may be true. But the fact is that we are on this site, and you have to deal with it this way.

[born to expire]

Also, I'm not denying the Beatles' influence or ability to write great music. I just think Black Sabbath is a better band.

No one has told me why Black Sabbath isn't incredible.

[noideas]

Yes. Most of the people on the site only listen to the bands that are promoted on this site and their influences. It's going to be difficult to find more than 5 or 10 people on here who love stoner metal, for example. As much as people like to think this is a messageboard where people talk about all types of music, it's not.

When HellFest was canceled a few years ago and a secret show in NJ was announced for that Sunday, most people on this site thought it was going to be Taking Back Sunday or Brand New. It was obviously going to be Lifetime. Now, everyone on here loves Lifetime. Don't kid yourself.

But I don't think that has anything to do with the website or the posters as a group. It is because the majority of people on this site are in high school or younger. I am not knocking on them, but it's just an age thing. I think tastes broaden as you get older. And I still don't think your point works because there are bands outside of the focus of this website that most everyone knows a bunch of songs from and enjoys listening too. Black Sabbath isn't one of them according to you.

[Tyler Revolution]

The bottom line is that I guarantee you have never heard a complete Sabbath album. Prove me wrong. You've yet to tell me what isn't amazing about Black Sabbath; whereas, I can sit here and tell you what I do and don't like about the Beatles.

So that's your preference, dude. Christ. To sit here and argue about who's better, and all you have to come up with is "the riffs are siiiiiick." Yeah, fuck that. That's not what makes music better. If you enjoy them for their heaviness, cool.

I, of course, would go with Zeppelin. Jimmy Page is superior to Iommi, truth. Zeppelin were more inventive, and a hell of a lot more creative. Lyrically it's not even a question. Sabbath is good, and they were influential, but there's a lot more artists/bands that were much better, and much more essential.

[born to expire]

I think tastes broaden as you get older. And I still don't think your point works because there are bands outside of the focus of this website that most everyone knows a bunch of songs from and enjoys listening too. Black Sabbath isn't one of them according to you.

I agree with your point about tastes broadening as you get older.

Black Sabbath isn't as accessible as the Beatles. Bands that get posted on here cite everyone from Elvis Costello to Radiohead as influences. Few cite Black Sabbath. That's all I was trying to say.

[chipdip18]

I do not like Black Sabbath because the music is bland and i am not a fan of the vocals.

[Tyler Revolution]

Also, I'm not denying the Beatles' influence or ability to write great music. I just think Black Sabbath is a better band.

No one has told me why Black Sabbath isn't incredible.

I can't tell you that they're not "incredible" because that's not my place. I can tell you why they aren't the best band of all time.

-They aren't the most creative
-They aren't lyrically the best
-They aren't as influential as other groups
-They weren't as initiative as other groups
-They aren't the best even musically

[born to expire]

So that's your preference, dude. Christ. To sit here and argue about who's better, and all you have to come up with is "the riffs are siiiiiick." Yeah, fuck that. That's not what makes music better. If you enjoy them for their heaviness, cool.

I, of course, would go with Zeppelin. Jimmy Page is superior to Iommi, truth. Zeppelin were more inventive, and a hell of a lot more creative. Lyrically it's not even a question. Sabbath is good, and they were influential, but there's a lot more artists/bands that were much better, and much more essential.

My point originally was to make a Black Sabbath appreciation thread. I felt like saying "Black Sabbath is the best band of all time" to start it off. I would have preferred if people had said "I don't agree, but they are still awesome. My favorite songs are..."

I love Zeppelin, but I don't agree. Black Sabbath just does more for me.

"Travellin' Riverside Blues" is such a sick song, man.

[born to expire]

I do not like Black Sabbath because the music is bland and i am not a fan of the vocals.

I pity both you and your taste in music.

[chipdip18]

My point originally was to make a Black Sabbath appreciation thread. I felt like saying "Black Sabbath is the best band of all time" to start it off. I would have preferred if people had said "I don't agree, but they are still awesome. My favorite songs are..."

I love Zeppelin, but I don't agree. Black Sabbath just does more for me.

"Travellin' Riverside Blues" is such a sick song, man.


Then i'm sorry, i had no idea what you were trying to make. And i've been rude.

[Tyler Revolution]

My point originally was to make a Black Sabbath appreciation thread. I felt like saying "Black Sabbath is the best band of all time" to start it off. I would have preferred if people had said "I don't agree, but they are still awesome. My favorite songs are..."

I love Zeppelin, but I don't agree. Black Sabbath just does more for me.

"Travellin' Riverside Blues" is such a sick song, man.

Haha, fair enough. Claiming a band is the best of all time is never a good idea, though.

...unless it's the Beatles. OH!

[born to expire]

Also, you people need to lighten up. Christ.

[Tyler Revolution]

I'm sorry. Making a insane claim and then not backing it up with any valid points gets me going.

[AlternateToLife]

Definitely not the best. I guess they're not bad. Not really my genre.

[SickOfStars]

Sabbath's albums with Ozzy ruled house, but the lyrics definitely crossed the "painful" line multiple times.

[IWasaCamera]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha at this thread.

[Tyler Revolution]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha at this thread.

I'm a few weeks late, but happy birthday, man.

[handlikesecret]

not really my thing, but i have respect for 'em.

[IWasaCamera]

I'm a few weeks late, but happy birthday, man.
haha thanks.

[Fin.]

I love Sabbath and have alot of their albums. I still know that it's really not even that close of a race between The Beatles and Sabbath as the best band ever. On any metal websites they may say Sabbath is the greatest band ever, but any well rounded music person knows that no one touches The Beatles.

Although, I know Rolling Stone Magazine is not the end all, be all of music critics, they list The Beatles as the greatest artist of all time and Black Sabbath number 85. I think Sabbath should be higher than that, but no higher than number 20.

[CellarGhosts]

haha, oh boy.

I enjoy my share of Sabbath material but they are by no means the best band of all time. If they're you're favorite band of all time, sure. that's fine, no qualms there at all. But to say they're the best? c'mon now.

I would elaborate on why I think this, but any points I could make have already been made by Tyler_Revolution and various other people.

[Ouch]

Not the best band of all time, but pretty damn good. Dio-led Sabbath owns Ozzy-led Sabbath.

Ozzy-led Sabbath was more hit risk, with Paranoid and, One of Sabbath's biggest fuck-ups of all, Technical Ecstasy.

Dio-Led Sabbath was much more consistant, with Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules.

[Genuma]

Fuck the majority of the people in this thread who made fools of themselves.

[chipdip18]

Woo! That would be me!

[Wildness774]

Ozzy is a nutjob
he putts on a good concert though

[Czarsy]

Just so everyone knows this thread title is 100% accurate.

[KatieKutthroat.]

Sabbath's albums with Ozzy ruled house, but the lyrics definitely crossed the "painful" line multiple times.

Hahahaha, your avatar is fantastic!

[Czarsy]

lol@people actually saying that Black Sabbath is overrated and comparing them to the Beatles. Two totally different bands who had two totally different impacts. Seriously, just because you like the Beatles better than Sabbath doesn't mean that you need to discredit one of the most influential bands of the last century to make a point to someone on a messageboard.

[KatieKutthroat.]

I think it's a matter of comparision when you claim that one band is the best of all time. If the OP was saying that Black Sabbath were the best band in their genre, no one would be comparing them to the Beatles, obviously.

[SickOfStars]

Hahahaha, your avatar is fantastic!

thank you. I actually fashioned that little pic myself :-D

[KatieKutthroat.]

thank you. I actually fashioned that little pic myself :-D

Haha, I'm quite impressed.

[SickOfStars]

:bow:

[born to expire]

Just so everyone knows this thread title is 100% accurate.

Trying to defend myself against 15 Beatlemaniacs was pretty difficult, especially when most of them have never heard Sabbath.

[SickOfStars]

Trying to defend myself against 15 Beatlemaniacs was pretty difficult, especially when most of them have never heard Sabbath.

by the way people were talking you'd think it was impossible to enjoy both of them without claiming that either is the best band ever

[born to expire]

Not the best band of all time, but pretty damn good. Dio-led Sabbath owns Ozzy-led Sabbath.

Ozzy-led Sabbath was more hit risk, with Paranoid and, One of Sabbath's biggest fuck-ups of all, Technical Ecstasy.

Dio-Led Sabbath was much more consistant, with Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules.

Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules are cool albums, but they really don't touch most of the Ozzy material. I really do love Heaven and Hell too... I just can't put it on the same level as the earlier stuff.

[born to expire]

by the way people were talking you'd think it was impossible to enjoy both of them without claiming that either is the best band ever

I wasn't even trying to get into an argument either. The Beatles and Sabbath = apples and oranges. So many people in here are so self righteous.

For those who have not heard Sabbath aside from "Iron Man" (which is nowhere near Sabbath's best song), check out these albums in their ENTIRETY:

Black Sabbath
Paranoid
Master of Reality
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Vol. 4
Sabotage.

You'll thank me later.

[SickOfStars]

I wasn't even trying to get into an argument either. The Beatles and Sabbath = apples and oranges.

precisely!

[KatieKutthroat.]

by the way people were talking you'd think it was impossible to enjoy both of them without claiming that either is the best band ever

This I could understand. But I think claiming a certain band is the best band of all time hands down is stupid. I just think the Beatles are better judging by influence, innovation, and overall I just prefer their style of music over the three or four Sabbath albums I've heard.

[SickOfStars]

This I could understand. But I think claiming a certain band is the best band of all time hands down is stupid. I just think the Beatles are better judging by influence, innovation, and overall I just prefer their style of music over the three or four Sabbath albums I've heard.

Me too. Every time it's been prompted, all I can think is "who the hell am I to make that call?"

[KatieKutthroat.]

Me too. Every time it's been prompted, all I can think is "who the hell am I to make that call?"

Yeah, exactly. Everyone has a favorite band, but no one can truly decide who's the best of all time.

[born to expire]

This thread is full of self righteous 16 year olds. Get over yourselves and your opinions.

I think Sabbath is the best band of all time. Was it a bit hyperbolic of me to say that in a thread? Yeah, sure. Do I care? Absolutely not.

[SickOfStars]

I wasn't even trying to get into an argument either. The Beatles and Sabbath = apples and oranges. So many people in here are so self righteous.

For those who have not heard Sabbath aside from "Iron Man" (which is nowhere near Sabbath's best song), check out these albums in their ENTIRETY:

Black Sabbath
Paranoid
Master of Reality
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Vol. 4
Sabotage.

You'll thank me later.

oh yes!

[SickOfStars]

This thread is full of self righteous 16 year olds. Get over yourselves and your opinions.

I think Sabbath is the best band of all time. Was it a bit hyperbolic of me to say that in a thread? Yeah, sure. Do I care? Absolutely not.

no worries. wasn't trying to slight your opinion. at least you made a credible claim as opposed to say uh.... paramore.

[KatieKutthroat.]

This thread is full of self righteous 16 year olds. Get over yourselves and your opinions.

I think Sabbath is the best band of all time. Was it a bit hyperbolic of me to say that in a thread? Yeah, sure. Do I care? Absolutely not.

lol, I hate when people play the age card. I hate being sixteen.

And everyone's entitled to their opinions.

[born to expire]

lol, I hate when people play the age card. I hate being sixteen.

And everyone's entitled to their opinions.

I was an idiot about music when I was 16. So is everyone else. You'd be surprised how much your taste will change.

[KatieKutthroat.]

I was an idiot about music when I was 16. So is everyone else. You'd be surprised how much your taste will change.

lol. You don't even know what my music taste is comprised of. I'm pretty sure I'm not an idiot about music because I'm not a huge Black Sabbath fan.

[born to expire]

lol. You don't even know what my music taste is comprised of. I'm pretty sure I'm not an idiot about music because I'm not a huge Black Sabbath fan.

I'm just saying that at 16 most people are really self righteous about their taste in music.

EDIT: and you actually have good taste in bands. You've proven me wrong.

[KatieKutthroat.]

I'm just saying that at 16 most people are really self righteous about their taste in music.

EDIT: and you actually have good taste in bands. You've proven me wrong.

Haha, alright. Thanks.

[Czarsy]

I'm 18 and I like the same shit I did when I was 16 for the most part. I've found tons of new shit though. I liked nu metal when I was 14 though.

Also...

SO I WENT TO THE DOCTOR TO SEE WHAT HE COULD GIVE ME...
HE SAID 'SON, SON, YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR'...
CAUSE SMOKIN AND TRIPPIN IS ALL THAT YOU DO...

[SickOfStars]

I'm 18 and I like the same shit I did when I was 16 for the most part. I've found tons of new shit though. I liked nu metal when I was 14 though.

Also...

SO I WENT TO THE DOCTOR TO SEE WHAT HE COULD GIVE ME...
HE SAID 'SON, SON, YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR'...
CAUSE SMOKIN AND TRIPPIN IS ALL THAT YOU DO...

I will be the first on the board to inform you that you are wise beyond your years in the many ways of independent heavy music

[born to expire]

I'm 18 and I like the same shit I did when I was 16 for the most part. I've found tons of new shit though. I liked nu metal when I was 14 though.

Also...

SO I WENT TO THE DOCTOR TO SEE WHAT HE COULD GIVE ME...
HE SAID 'SON, SON, YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR'...
CAUSE SMOKIN AND TRIPPIN IS ALL THAT YOU DO...

YES.

And you like Mobb Deep too. Nice work.

[Pluto.]

Was Ozzy the one who peed on the alamo? I can't remember who it was. Anyways, I enjoy Black Sabbath. I'm not a fan of the song Iron Man though.

[Machu505]

The Beatles.

[CellarGhosts]

Was Ozzy the one who peed on the alamo? I can't remember who it was. Anyways, I enjoy Black Sabbath. I'm not a fan of the song Iron Man though.
Yes, it was him.

Also, Iron Man is a fucking stupid song. But Sabbath still have some pretty swt tunes, that one put aside.

[born to expire]

sabbath is still the best band of all time, the beatles are overrated.

:-0 (is this the "gasp!" emoticon?)

[SwiftSilentDead]

One of my favorites. Master of Reality and Vol. 4 are my favorite albums from them. All of their first 5 are excellent though. Some of the albums with Dio are good too though. I love Mob Rules.

[speed]

You kids need to shut up and listen to born to expire ..... his posts speak truth about the Black Sabbath.

Easily one of the most amazing bands ever.

[CellarGhosts]

Black Sabbath were great, but not the greatest band of all time.

[hockeyguitar99]

sabbath is still the best band of all time, the beatles are overrated.

:-0 (is this the "gasp!" emoticon?)

Give it the fuck up already. They're not the greatest. The Beatles are, and I'm not a fan. I've listened to Black Sabbath's Self Titled, Paranoid, and Master Of Reality multiple times. They were all just okay. They can't touch The Beatles in innovation, influence, or sales. Get over yourself. You're the arrogant, self righteous one.

[Kid B]

*manditory joke sarcastically implying Brand New or Say Anything to be the best band of all time

[timbedinosaur]

When they become the best band of all time I'll become best friends with the Pope and the President. I mean c'mon, even if there was a fair way to call them the best band of all time the musical genius of The Beatles far surpasses the same riffes and subject matter that is Black Sabbath. I like Black Sabbath, don't get me wrong, but to make such a bold ignorant statement is just stupid. There is no way to tell who the greatest band of all time is because thats just an opionion made by a biased mind. Not everybody likes the same type of music, and not everybody likes the same bands. Thats what's so great about music, you get to choose what you like and who you like. Artists and bands are constantly releasing new material so the musical landscape broadens. And you can go wherever you want in this landscape, and you can pick your favorite spot, but that doesn't mean at all that's everybody's favorite spot.

[chipdip18]

*manditory joke sarcastically implying Brand New or Say Anything to be the best band of all time

Aren't Jesse Lacey, Max Bemis, John Lennon and that bigender guy from Tokio Hotel the original members of the Beatles anyway?

[timbedinosaur]

Aren't Jesse Lacey, Max Bemis, John Lennon and that bigender guy from Tokio Hotel the original members of the Beatles anyway?
Duh.

[DilesMavis]

Probably easily one of my favorite bands of all time.

[Circa1628]

Yes, Black Sabbath is better than the Beatles.

Black Sabbath isn't better than any band from that time period in music (Beatles, Doors, etc.)

[karlwithak]

"Black Sabbath is the best band of all time"

Really? I thought it was Demon Hunter

[Kerplunk_23]

I would say the best metal band of all time in my opinion hands down,but best band of all time I dont know about that one.

[DilesMavis]

since this is probably one of my favorite bands of all time as i mentioned. it's my 1,000th shout and i'm skipping that corny thank you thread, i don't really have many people to thank anyway, i post on and off over the years. so i'm leaving a post here.

as the time has gone by, and i have been listening to black sabbath probably ever since i was a kid...as my dad's a huge fan, my favorite albums have changed. in chronological order i'd say my personal favorites would be something like vol. 4 > s/t > master of reality > paranoid. it was a tough call though where to place the s/t and master of reality, they're both almost equal to me. solitude is fantastic and i still can't wrap my head around the fact that those are actually ozzy's vocals. my first guess was actually bill ward. great band though. love them lots.

weeeee 1,000 :-)

[LastDeclaration]

It's pretty hard to argue with Led Zep as the best/most influential/all around most awesome band ever. They're certainly better than BS...

[CellarGhosts]

Bump because

a) truth (sort of. not the best but still awesome as fuck).

b) idiots in this thread

c) Led Zeppelin are kinda overrated

[love_american_style]

they're not...but I do LOVE them

[SanePsychotic]

I love both Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin, and while I tend to favor Sabbath over Zeppelin, I do not necessarily think that Zeppelin is really "overrated". I think they're accurately rated. Sabbath's whole is better than the sum of its parts, while Zeppelin's parts are better than its whole. This isn't fact, of course, but merely my opinion.

[SwiftSilentDead]

I view Sabbath as the most important band of all time for me considering most of the music I listen to wouldn't exist if it wasn't for them.

On Led Zeppelin, it took me awhile to "get" them but I've grown to enjoy them as of late. Mostly Led Zeppelin II more than anything.

Anyway, more Sabbath talk. I've been listening to them since middle school but I didn't explore their albums until around high school and was blown away by Vol. 4, Master of Reality and their self/titled. Really started to appreciate them more then and now they are a top 5/10 band for me. I also like some Dio-era stuff, too.

[CellarGhosts]

I view Sabbath as the most important band of all time for me considering most of the music I listen to wouldn't exist if it wasn't for them.

On Led Zeppelin, it took me awhile to "get" them but I've grown to enjoy them as of late. Mostly Led Zeppelin II more than anything.

Anyway, more Sabbath talk. I've been listening to them since middle school but I didn't explore their albums until around high school and was blown away by Vol. 4, Master of Reality and their self/titled. Really started to appreciate them more then and now they are a top 5/10 band for me. I also like some Dio-era stuff, too.
Ditto. I more or less agree with everything here though. I've never been in love with Led Zeppelin like everyone else and honestly a lot of their stuff bores me but whatever.

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is my personal favorite record of theirs, followed by Master of Reality and the self-titled.

[whitelightning7]

I disagree.

[CellarGhosts]

sigh.

[cshadows2887]

Thread title is a lie, but it's the only thread I could find on them:

In the right mood, their debut is pretty awesomely creepy/murky.

[artsaves]

Thread title is true.

[Alligator Blood]

Did you not listen to what Tom Delonge said? I'm pretty sure the best band in the world ever is Angels & Airwaves.

[SwiftSilentDead]

We need the change the title so there's less bitching about who the best band ever is and more talk about how awesome Sabbath is.

[DilesMavis]

sabbath 4 ever

[SwiftSilentDead]

Great avatar.

[DilesMavis]

thank you:-)

[shit stroll]

man, 08 was a bad year for this website.

[DilesMavis]

hahaha yeah i made the same observation.

[JesseLareMusic]

its all personal preference. however, you cant really deny that they are good musicians..

[Justin Case]

As an old fart that remembers when Black Sabbath was new and different, I have a very subjective view on the band. I was just a young kid but i paid very close attention to music and the adults around me were always playing albums or the radio. The 70s was a dismally boring era for music. When we were lucky, my older brother and i were allowed to listen to the only stuff we thought was good - Hendrix, Zeppelin, Cream, and... well almost nothing else.
Then my older brother used his allowance to get this odd scary looking album with a witch woman in front of a castle. Black Sabbath's self titled album. That album is far heavier than anything that had come before, but it has deep groovy blues, a little jazz, Medieval guitar, etc. For me it was full of mystery and moods. I fell in love.
I would listen to all the original Sabbath albums. Never had interest in Ozzy solo stuff or post-ozzy Sabbath. i tried to like it, but i never did. Really, nothing else excited me until I heard punk in the late 70s.
So because i was a young kid laying back in the den with only red and blue dim lights, some incense my parents had lit, tripping away on those early Sabbath albums, my perspective is from the inside and very limited.
Some people think Sabbath is corny or worse. i can understand. But critics should understand the context of what they are criticizing. No one but Sabbath really tapped that deep dark mystery spirit so consistently and subtly. Sure, Zeppelin tapped into it in a song here or there, but not like Sabbath. Hendrix got into that a little too, with Voodoo Child, Voodoo Chile, and Machine gun. But Sabbath did it for a decade of albums.
one more note: unfortunately, Sabbath inspired "Heavy Metal" music. i think almost all of metal sucked and those that didn't were inspired by punk.