The Smiths (Official Thread)

[Kid B]

http://www.selections.com/images/products/picture1zoom/AG718.jpg

All that needs to be said.

[Rawrr]

No, Louder Then Bombs.

[bradyreier]

Best band of all-time, in my opinion. Adore them and everything they did to pieces.

[Kid B]

They are easily one of my favorite bands. I can honestly say that I think TQID is one of the few perfect albums out there.

[Kid B]

No, Louder Then Bombs.

http://midnightcafe.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/the-smiths-louder-than-bombs-298342.jpg

That's a compilation though :shrug:

[bowl of oranges]

i only have Meat Is Murder but i like it a lot

[Rawrr]

This thread made me throw ont he single collection.


They were my moms favorite band in high-school, so I have pretty much access to all of their cds.

[Kid B]

i only have Meat Is Murder but i like it a lot
If you like that (their worst album imo) then you will love the rest of their selection.

[stereomouse]

some girls are bigger than others, you know

[bradyreier]

This thread made me throw ont he single collection.


They were my moms favorite band in high-school, so I have pretty much access to all of their cds.
Nice. I have all of The Smiths discography as well as Morrissey's solo albums on cd, as well as tons of singles and such from each. Now I'm working on collecting all of the albums on vinyl.

[Rawrr]

I only have The Queen.. on wax.

[bradyreier]

The Queen Is Dead > Strangeways, Here We Come > The Smiths > Meat Is Murder

[bradyreier]

I only have The Queen.. on wax.
Well at least you have their best work on vinyl.

[Kid B]

I've only heard TQID, MIM, and S/T. I guess I will be downloading Strangeway now. :-)

[Kid B]

I only have The Queen.. on wax.
Lucky.

[bradyreier]

Strangeways is both Morrissey's and Johnny's favorite Smiths album.

[Fin.]

Amazing band. Morrissey is probably one of my five favorite lyricists of all-time.

[bowl of oranges]

If you like that (their worst album imo) then you will love the rest of their selection.i'll look into getting some more of their stuff then, if that's the case

[Rawrr]

My favorite Smiths song is most def This Night Has Opened My Eyes.

[El_Jeffe]

love the smiths! although not a fan of the wave of imitators since haha. the queen is dead is also my favourite of theirs

what morrissey did with his lyrics was astonishing, singing songs that dealt with topics that often didn't seem to belong in the pop realm. he really emphasized the possibility that a “simple” song could be as compelling, intimate, cultured & allusive, as any other form of great writing

the romance of morrissey’s vocals, fused with the affection of marr's melodic ways on the guitar was a beautiful thing. it's hard to believe the band was only together for such a short amount of time, yet were such an intense eruption of creativity. a couple decades on, their music has soaked into the masses & their influence is as obvious as ever, so many bands owe a great debt to the smiths

[Kid B]

I agree, they're one of the most important bands of all time. And yes, Morrissey was one of the best lyricists of all time too.
i'll look into getting some more of their stuff then, if that's the case
You really should.

[El_Jeffe]

girlfriend in a coma, i know
i know - it's serious
my, my, my, my, my, my baby, goodbye

there were times when i could
have "strangled" her....

such troubled bleak, vindictive lyrics. but at the same time, whenever you listen to it, you could almost swear it was a love song (well if you're not paying much attention)


also, johnny marr is actually another really big finn fan, he appeared with the two finn brothers on their dvd 7 worlds collide & appeared again on the latest crowded house album, time on earth, for a few tracks

[Osto]

I can never decide whether I like The Queen is Dead or the self titled more.

[bradyreier]

I can never decide whether I like The Queen is Dead or the self titled more.
The self-titled has some of my absolute favorite Smiths songs on it ("This Charming Man," "Still Ill," "Suffer Little Children"), but I find The Queen Is Dead to have a much better flow, and just better overall songs on it. I also love the production on The Queen Is Dead, and that is the one thing I dislike about the self-titled.

[Osto]

I like the production on the self titled a lot, but I can see why someone wouldn't. Vicar in a Tutu ruins the flow of Queen imo.

[mynameiscarterr]

Personally, I like The Smiths better than Morrissey's solo stuff.
BUT! I saw him about a year ago and his live performance does not disappoint.

[chipdip18]

So i have never heard any of the Smith before, yeah i know its probably a crime against music. But educate me please.

[TeenageMustache]

So i have never heard any of the Smith before, yeah i know its probably a crime against music. But educate me please.

get The Queen Is Dead and listen to it over and over.

[chipdip18]

get The Queen Is Dead and listen to it over and over.

Haha that's all the education i need on the band?

[TeenageMustache]

Haha that's all the education i need on the band?

no, but start with that. it's thier best work, in my opinion. then move on to Strangeways Here We Come.

[chipdip18]

Haha ok. Any background on the band? Judging by my music tastes will i like them?

[absolutecrunk]

listen to the more accessible songs like panic and how soon is now and there is a light that never goes out then listen to the rest of these dudes cuz theyre smarter than i


ps luv da smiffs

[chipdip18]

Hahaha

[TeenageMustache]

Haha ok. Any background on the band? Judging by my music tastes will i like them?

you probably will like them.

[TeenageMustache]

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[bradyreier]

So i have never heard any of the Smith before, yeah i know its probably a crime against music. But educate me please.
I actually think it's a good idea to listen to their albums chronologically, so I'd say start with The Smiths and work from there. They're all really good, so you really can't go wrong no matter where you start, but this way you can hear the evolution of the band and how they matured.

[SickOfStars]

The only promptings I've had to listen to this band were from a bunch of humongous brand new fans. I like brand new, but was very cautious to listen to this band and simply be labeled as one of the braindead fucks who heard the name in 'mix tape' and then got all their cd's because jesse lacey's taste clearly consists only of the musical equivalents to the nectar of the gods.


that said, I remember REALLY liking that 'Sing Me to Sleep' song.

[born to expire]

So i have never heard any of the Smith before, yeah i know its probably a crime against music. But educate me please.

And you were telling me that the Beatles were the best band of all time in the thread I made? Jesus.

The Smiths are better than the Beatles too.

Get: The Queen is Dead, Louder Than Bombs, Strangeways Here We Come, and The Smiths.

EDIT: Also check out Morrissey's solo albums.

[born to expire]

the musical equivalents to the nectar of the gods.



...the perfect way to describe The Smiths

ha ha ha

[SickOfStars]

...the perfect way to describe The Smiths

ha ha ha

give me and album title and I will be checking out this band SO hard in 10 minutes.

I've heard 'The Queen is Dead' thrown around quite a bit.

[born to expire]

see my post above.

[SickOfStars]

see my post above.

done and done.

thank you for not being a brand new foot-kisser in a trucker hat. I can now check this out guilt-free.

[ergo propter00]

the smiths <33

[SickOfStars]

I liked this band before I knew Brand New existed. They are huge, can't believe people equate the too in the way I can understand with Manchester Orchestra and Neutral Milk Hotel.

It was more the personal pride of not saying I found the Smiths from brand new. Kind of crappy on my part.

[AlternateToLife]

I never even noticed Brand New mentioned The Smith's in any of their songs. Curious.

Anyway, I'm shocked that this thread hasn't been created until today. The Smiths are one of the bands I've enjoyed since the years of my youth.

[Until The Bombs]

I never even noticed Brand New mentioned The Smith's in any of their songs. Curious.

Anyway, I'm shocked that this thread hasn't been created until today. The Smiths are one of the bands I've enjoyed since the years of my youth.

You're 14! You're still in your youth. Hell, older people would argue I'm still in my youth.

[AlternateToLife]

You're 14! You're still in your youth. Hell, older people would argue I'm still in my youth.

Haha 15 actually, and yes I know. I was just laughing to myself about how these "years of my youth" I speak of was like 3 years ago.

[Dr. Acula]

Great thread and one of my favorite bands! Why the hell I never made this thread I have no idea. Anyway, The Queen is Dead is one of my favorite albums of all time.

[Dr. Acula]

You're 14! You're still in your youth. Hell, older people would argue I'm still in my youth.

Hahaha no shit. I was gonna say the same thing.

[Kid B]

I liked this band before I knew Brand New existed. They are huge, can't believe people equate the too in the way I can understand with Manchester Orchestra and Neutral Milk Hotel.
I don't understand what you just said.

[AlternateToLife]

Hahaha no shit. I was gonna say the same thing.

hahahaha I love your username/avatar convo. Pure brilliance.

[Dr. Acula]

hahahaha I love your username/avatar convo. Pure brilliance.

Thank ya ;-)

[SanePsychotic]

The only promptings I've had to listen to this band were from a bunch of humongous brand new fans. I like brand new, but was very cautious to listen to this band and simply be labeled as one of the braindead fucks who heard the name in 'mix tape' and then got all their cd's because jesse lacey's taste clearly consists only of the musical equivalents to the nectar of the gods.


that said, I remember REALLY liking that 'Sing Me to Sleep' song.

You mean "Asleep"? That's the song that got me into them (I read Perks of Being A Wallflower).

I only own Louder Than Bombs but I really do need to get more of their stuff. It's really surprising that this thread didn't exist before. Weird.

[mattybobviously]

I don't understand what you just said.
Where as it's understandable why so many people get into Manchester Orchestra and Neutral Milk Hotel through Brand New because they aren't that well known, Ben can't believe The Smiths, who are alternative rock legends, have been relegated to that same status for a lot of members on this site.

[SamEyes]

I didn't really know The Smiths until recently, knew OF them, just didn't listen that much,

My mum's partner heard me listening to an Anberlin cover of There Is A Light That Never Goes Out and showed me the original track, along with the whole of TQID and it's brilliant, I love it.

Being a massive Brand New fan before I'd got into them, I can see the influence in places aswell so it's a nice little link. Anyone heard the 2nd untitled demo on the leaked EP? Sometimes called "Morrissey"? Sounds just like them haha. One of my favourite songs ever.

[Circa1628]

"Asleep" is in my top 10 songs of all time, "Half A Person" is great too

[ThemChains]

Been listening to a lot of The Smiths lately.

[cutyrribbon]

I've been listening to the Smiths for a few years now. I really got into them after watching The Complete Picture, great dvd.

[SamEyes]

And now I know how Joan of Arc felt, now I know how Joan of Arc felllllt.

[A Love American]

I loooove the Smiths. The Queen Is Dead is so good. Strangeways, Here We Come is also really good.

[micahistheballs]

The Queen is Dead is one of my 10 favorite records and There Is A Light... is one of my 3 favorite songs so I kind of like them.

[A Love American]

Haha

[Czarsy]

AWesome band.

[skashroomking]

i love this band

:-D

[SanePsychotic]

Lately I've been into more of Morrissey's solo work as opposed to the Smiths. Anyone feel the same?

[A Love American]

Viva Hate > The Queen Is Dead > Strangeways > All Smiths/Morrissey

[Osto]

I just can't get into any of moz's solo stuff. Dunno why.

[SanePsychotic]

I just can't get into any of moz's solo stuff. Dunno why.

It's good stuff. Maybe you should get his new album when it comes out in '09 and see if you can get into that or not. You're missing out on some great stuff.

[fenderkid212]

I just can't get into any of moz's solo stuff. Dunno why.
Same here, I love the Smiths, but I only think his solo stuff is alright

[A Love American]

Viva Hate is so good. Used to be my all time favorite, still up in the top 50 somewhere. Really, really good album. I love anything Morrissey does.

[SanePsychotic]

Same here, I love the Smiths, but I only think his solo stuff is alright

"Alright" is such an understandment. I can understand you liking The Smiths more than Morrissey solo, but it's much more than "alright". "Fucking fantastic" would be a better phrase.

[AP_Punk]

New hits collection from The Smiths due out in November (http://www.punknews.org/article/30668)

"Oh good, another Smiths hits comp to round out my shelf full of Smiths hits comps."

lol

[Circa1628]

they put out so many greatest hits. the band was so shortlived that everyone should just buy all their studio albums.

[StreetSpirit76]

Love this band. Been listening to Hatful Of Hollow constantly for the past week.

[El_Jeffe]

why anyone would ever want a collection of the singles versions of their songs i'll never know. they have more greatest hits than they do albums haha

[Dr. Acula]

Hahaha

[micahistheballs]

The Queen is Dead was my first big avatar after becoming prestigious.

Fun micahistheballs trivia!

[Osto]

Self Titled > Everything else.

[Melkor]

Had that new comp album on at work, such a great band. Have got their albums out again. I would say the s/t is my favourite as well.

[Mikeyx1230]

My fav band of all time, no hesitation.
Got myself a bunch of there vinyls for xmas = D
I love everything they have ever done, in my opinion, they could never do any wrong.

Morrissey solo is great too.

[chipdip18]

I tried getting into them a few months back and failed. It's probably worth a shot again.

[Mikeyx1230]

I tried getting into them a few months back and failed. It's probably worth a shot again.
It took me a few listens actually.
Just keep at it, and eventually, they will just click.
Get there Self Titled, and The Queen Is Dead.
Hit Random, and enjoy!

[erinfxs]

I love them, i know it's odd for a fifteen year old girl to love them.
But my dad played them since I was little, I used to hate them and now I actually have a real interest in music I have grown to love them, the Queen Is Dead is one of my favourite albums of all time.
I also love Morrisey's solo work.

[chipdip18]

It took me a few listens actually.
Just keep at it, and eventually, they will just click.
Get there Self Titled, and The Queen Is Dead.
Hit Random, and enjoy!

I'll keep those two albums in mind when i go to check them out again.

[Mikeyx1230]

I love them, i know it's odd for a fifteen year old girl to love them.
But my dad played them since I was little, I used to hate them and now I actually have a real interest in music I have grown to love them, the Queen Is Dead is one of my favourite albums of all time.
I also love Morrisey's solo work.
Morrissey sadly doesnt compare to The Smiths.
However, Viva Hate, Vauxall & I and Your Arsenal are brilliant albums.

[Amen Amen]

favorite band as of late. morrissey is brilliant

[erinfxs]

Morrissey sadly doesnt compare to The Smiths.
However, Viva Hate, Vauxall & I and Your Arsenal are brilliant albums.
He's no comparison, but i do love his work solo too though.

Me and my dad constantly argue over who made the smiths, morrisey or johhny marr.
when im lsoing the battle i just go: OH ALL OF THEM WERE GREAT, OKAY?!
haha, cause he seems to have a better knowledge of them :P

[Mikeyx1230]

He's no comparison, but i do love his work solo too though.

Me and my dad constantly argue over who made the smiths, morrisey or johhny marr.
when im lsoing the battle i just go: OH ALL OF THEM WERE GREAT, OKAY?!
haha, cause he seems to have a better knowledge of them :P

The Smiths couldnt have been without Morrissey or Marr, they both made the band.
Morrisseys Lyrics mixed with Marrs Guitar work, amazing.
However, dont forget there was a bassist and drummer too.

[erinfxs]

The Smiths couldnt have been without Morrissey or Marr, they both made the band.
Morrisseys Lyrics mixed with Marrs Guitar work, amazing.
However, dont forget there was a bassist and drummer too.
yeah, that was what i used to resort to saying. "they were all amazing dont forget the otherss!"

haha,

plus i PWN at this charming man on singstar hahaa,
just cause ive had a lot of practice :-)

[Mikeyx1230]

yeah, that was what i used to resort to saying. "they were all amazing dont forget the otherss!"

haha,

plus i PWN at this charming man on singstar hahaa,
just cause ive had a lot of practice :-)

Never played singstar, and if it involves singing, never will haha.

[ThemChains]

Seeing Morrissey in March.

[Mikeyx1230]

Seeing Morrissey in March.

Im actually hoping to go see him at some point.
Apparently he plays a few Smiths songs in the set as well.
Thats the closest we will ever get to seeing the real Smiths.

[Andypeebs]

"I would be more fulfilled making Christmas cards with the mentally illlllluh!"

Much love for The Smiths.

[Mikeyx1230]

I cant believe this thread isnt bigger.
I mean, one of the greatest bands of all times, and there is 7 pages.

[SanePsychotic]

Seeing Morrissey in March.

You lucky duck!

I cant believe this thread isnt bigger.
I mean, one of the greatest bands of all times, and there is 7 pages.

I know, it's kind of depressing. But what makes up for it is that those who are into the Smiths are generally really into them.

[Mikeyx1230]

You lucky duck!



I know, it's kind of depressing. But what makes up for it is that those who are into the Smiths are generally really into them.

Yea, they are.
I for one, am really into them.
They have been my favorite band of all time for about a year now.
and thats about around the same time i first heard them.

[sandra92]

Good band (;

[SanePsychotic]

Good band (;

You mean great band ;-) .

[sandra92]

You mean great band ;-) .

ahah . yes

[SanePsychotic]

ahah . yes

Just making sure that the truth is being spoken. :nod:

[Mikeyx1230]

Just making sure that the truth is being spoken. :nod:

Haha, good one Sane.
Fighting crime.

[SanePsychotic]

Haha, good one Sane.
Fighting crime.

I'm pretty much a superhero. :-d

[Mikeyx1230]

I'm pretty much a superhero. :-d
Haha, it seems that way.

[christopher™]

love this band. havent listened to them in a while.

[Mikeyx1230]

love this band. havent listened to them in a while.

I listen to them at least once a day, most of the time.
I dont go a week anymore without listening to them.
Even when im on a Cure binge, i find time for The Smiths.

[Divinehand]

It's impossible to pick a favorite song from this band.

[erinfxs]

Bumping this thread. One of my all time favourite bands.

Really love Strangeways Here We Come at the moment.

[micahistheballs]

It amazes me how tracks like Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want and Asleep were only b-sides.

[ThemChains]

Strangeways has a lot of low points that make it less enjoyable for me.

[deanster321]

It amazes me how tracks like Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want and Asleep were only b-sides.
The further in time you go back, the higher the standard of b-sides seems to be imo. But The Smiths really were outstanding in that area.

[erinfxs]

I do love Asleep too.

Decided to listen to Rank again, it amazes how good they sounds live. If only I was born in the sixties or something to have seen them haha.

[ThemChains]

Morrissey plays a lot of Smiths songs live.

[erinfxs]

Morrissey plays a lot of Smiths songs live.
I know, still not really the same though.
I intended on seeing him live on Wednesday, but I had a dance exam. :/

[ThemChains]

The songs are the same, it's the same person singing. Different people playing the instruments and you aren't there during the time of relevance, other than that...it's the same.

[erinfxs]

The songs are the same, it's the same person singing. Different people playing the instruments and you aren't there during the time of relevance, other than that...it's the same.
Yeah, that's all I meant, to have been there during the time of relevance.
I still wouldn't pass on seeing Morrissey cover them, by no means. Or at least see him perform his solo stuff.

[yves.]

I love the smiths so so much.

[erinfxs]

I love the smiths so so much.
I love your title.
Is that your favourite by them?

[micahistheballs]

Been listening to Louder Than Bombs lately. What a great compilation.

Why doesn't this band get more attention from Rolling Stone and mainstream publications of the sort hailing them for being as great as they are or do they and I've missed it?

[eliselovesmusic]

FINALLY!

A Smiths thread. Took you 'punks' long enough ;-)

[ThePartialGlow]

PsD0NpFSADM

[ThemChains]

Another indie love movie. Who gives a fuck.

[Hey Kevin]

I think Morrissey wrote some better songs

[ThePartialGlow]

Another indie love movie. Who gives a fuck.

Well, seeing as this is a Smiths thread...and there is a Smiths reference at the beginning of the trailer...I'd say it was a perfectly appropriate post. At least as appropriate as another cynical boost my post count response.

[iam_theculprit]

I really can't wait for this movie.

And for the record, I'm new to AP and love The Smiths. Hello.

[haltiamreptar]

Its good to see a place where there are smiths fans my age. where i come from not alot of kids take on this kind of music -sighs-. But i suppose they are missing out on something great. Im pretty sure the queen is dead is the most flawless piece of music I have ever heard but whenever I recommend it to someone else my age they say its gay. But thats the glory about the smiths, all their stuff is ambiguos making them neither right nor wrong. Love them.

[DilesMavis]

I love this band... so much. Morrissey is the man.

[Thomas Nassiff]

im just starting to get into the smiths. i DL'd 'strangeways, here they come first', and i really liked it. any suggestions on where i should go next?

[PenThrive]

im just starting to get into the smiths. i DL'd 'strangeways, here they come first', and i really liked it. any suggestions on where i should go next?


You may want to pick up a copy of The Queen Is Dead, then move onto Meat Is Murder.

[Thomas Nassiff]

You may want to pick up a copy of The Queen Is Dead, then move onto Meat Is Murder.

okay then, thanks. was strangeways a good way to start in the first place?

[PenThrive]

okay then, thanks. was strangeways a good way to start in the first place?

Not really. Tbh, Strangeways was my least favorite of their studio albums, but again, that comes down to personal preference. I think the lyrics and musicianship on TQIS & MIM are some of the best from the Smiths.

[Thomas Nassiff]

Not really. Tbh, Strangeways was my least favorite of their studio albums, but again, that comes down to personal preference. I think the lyrics and musicianship on TQIS & MIM are some of the best from the Smiths.

okay i see. the reason i started there is because i looked them up on wikipedia and morrissey and marr claim that strangeways is their favorite smiths album

[ThemChains]

Well, seeing as this is a Smiths thread...and there is a Smiths reference at the beginning of the trailer...I'd say it was a perfectly appropriate post. At least as appropriate as another cynical boost my post count response.

Haha, post count. Fuck off.





In thread relevancy: Everyone I work with likes the Smiths which makes picking something to listen to that much easier.

[ThePartialGlow]

Haha, post count. Fuck off.





In thread relevancy: Everyone I work with likes the Smiths which makes picking something to listen to that much easier.

I will not.

[ThemChains]

I would normally start shit here, but I like the reference in your user title.

[ThePartialGlow]

You're the first to recognize it from anything, so no beef here. The Smiths rock.

[ThemChains]

I'm calling Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

[Osto]

The Smiths' four full length albums are getting remastered and repressed on vinyl this month. The only downside? No Louder Than Bombs.

[Kyle Huntington]

Listening to Louder Than Bombs as we speak, "London" is such a tune.

[GunTheVillain]

Morrissey or The Smiths, guys?

[Kyle Huntington]

The Smiths always, you never answered why you prefer Morrissey solo...?

[PenThrive]

I prefer The Smiths hands-down.

[SpyKi]

Yeah, easily The Smiths. Not that Morrissey isn't awesome solo.

[PenThrive]

You kicked and cried like a bullied child
a grown man of twenty-five
oh, you said he'd cure your ills
but he didn't and he never will

[SanePsychotic]

The Smiths' four full length albums are getting remastered and repressed on vinyl this month. The only downside? No Louder Than Bombs.

Now that's a bummer. I wonder why that is.

[Kyle Huntington]

A personal favourite, self-titled is definitely at the top for me:
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[pennie]

Never knew there was a thread about these.I absolutely adore The Smiths.The Queen is Dead would be my favourite albums of all time.Also I prefer The Smiths to Morrisseys solo stuff.

[AnchorBraille]

seriously i think the smiths are becoming my favorite band....

[Wildness774]

i like handsome devil, and this charming man
good tunes

[Kyle Huntington]

seriously i think the smiths are becoming my favorite band....
Goodo.

Been a non mover top 3 of mine since I was pretty young. Been listening to Louder Than Bombs loads recently as it's all my friend has on their computer, so good.

[AnchorBraille]

Goodo.

Been a non mover top 3 of mine since I was pretty young. Been listening to Louder Than Bombs loads recently as it's all my friend has on their computer, so good.idk I think Jonney Marr's guitar work is so unique...it seems like you find something new with every listen.

[Chemical Swirl]

I was having the best dream ever, when I was abruptly woken up with my "This Charming Man" alarm on my cell phone. Fuck.

[Kyle Huntington]

How can you stay with a fat girl who'll say,
'"Would you like to marry me?
And if you like you can buy the ring,"
She doesn't care about anything.
"Would you like to marry me?
And if you like you can buy the ring."
I don't dream about anyone,
Except myself.

[Cuddleworthy]

the queen is dead is not as ahead of their other albums as everyone seems to think. just sayin

[StreetSpirit76]

the queen is dead is not as head of their other albums as everyone seems to think. just sayin

I've never thought that any one album of theirs sticks out from the rest, honestly. They're all incredibly solid.

[SpyKi]

the queen is dead is not as ahead of their other albums as everyone seems to think. just sayin
Agreed. I actually prefer the s/t.

[element4433]

I've never thought that any one album of theirs sticks out from the rest, honestly. They're all incredibly solid.Agree, but I listen to The Queen is Dead most, so that's why I say it's my favorite. Plus There is a Light That Never Goes Out is one of my favorite songs of all time.

[theguy77]

third "classic" artist to really impact me, though the word classic is very loosely defined for me. im a bit slow tracking down my music roots but this band is an example of pure satisfaction in that department. theyve got such a distinctive aesthetic, what with their dreamy textures and prominent basslines, i almost imagine them with grizzly bear-esque production if they were a band today. also, i'd expected morrissey to be a charismatic and compelling frontman and he absolutely did not disappoint. i love his lyrics and voice, and whats more, i love his expressions. the scat vocals at the end of "boy with the thorn in his side" are glorious. overall, truly fantastic pop music.

[Chromefox]

The Queen is Dead can't possibly be responsible for this band's reputation as gloomy and miserable.

[Paulb-182]

This band are weird for me. Sometimes I'll whack them on and love it, sometimes I hear them and think oh God not these.

[fadedmemories]

I dare say they're the best band from the 80's

[Paulb-182]

You're crazy

[Kyle Huntington]

You're crazy
Who's yours?

[Paulb-182]

Not that I care for much music of the 80's, but I always thought The Cure, U2 and Jesus and Mary Chain had better output in the 80's than The Smiths.

Edit: I also am a big fan of Doolittle by Pixies, although don't think one album makes them better than The Smiths

[Kyle Huntington]

Not that I care for much music of the 80's, but I always thought The Cure, U2 and Jesus and Mary Chain had better output in the 80's than The Smiths.

Edit: I also am a big fan of Doolittle by Pixies, although don't think one album makes them better than The Smiths
Ah yeah cool, had no idea you were a Cure fan, that's awesome. So good. Still prefer The Smiths though, you will probably find this interesting actually. So true what he says about them not having a shit song:

Y1MsuoNJQ3U

[Nourez]

I feel like listening to The Queen is dead for the first time in months today.

[Paulb-182]

Ah yeah cool, had no idea you were a Cure fan, that's awesome. So good. Still prefer The Smiths though, you will probably find this interesting actually. So true what he says about them not having a shit song:

I agree about Morrisey, that guy's lyrics are immense. Always enjoy a nice bit of a Noel inetrview too, he talks a lot of sense. I mean I think I own all of their stuff, although can't be sure of that, and I don't think I can think of one song I dislike, Panic is a bit boring, but otherwise they were an awesome band, and simply, nothing either of them have put out since has come anywhere near it.

[theguy77]

god this music is so addictive, i love it immediately

[Paulb-182]

god this music is so addictive, i love it immediately

Have you only just checked them out?

[theguy77]

Have you only just checked them out?

yeah about a week ago. long time coming, right?

[Paulb-182]

yeah about a week ago. long time coming, right?

Incredibly.. What have you started with?

[theguy77]

Incredibly.. What have you started with?

the queen is dead, of course!

[Kyle Huntington]

the queen is dead, of course!
I do adore that album, but it bothers me that people seem to hold it that much higher than any other album of theirs.

[Paulb-182]

the queen is dead, of course!

Well, you say of course.. but I've always enjoyed Strangeways, Here We Come and thought it to be their best stuff. And then even some of the lesser known songs are their best too. Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want and You Just Haven't Earnt It Yet Baby are just a couple of my favourites.

I do adore that album, but it bothers me that people seem to hold it that much higher than any other album of theirs.

I never do this, but..

This.

[theguy77]

I do adore that album, but it bothers me that people seem to hold it that much higher than any other album of theirs.

Well, you say of course.. but I've always enjoyed Strangeways, Here We Come and thought it to be their best stuff. And then even some of the lesser known songs are their best too. Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want and You Just Haven't Earnt It Yet Baby are just a couple of my favourites.

oh no dont get me wrong im definitely interested in their other records. that one is just the quintissential one according to the accounts of smiths listeners so due to it being the most popularized, i picked that one first.

[Paulb-182]

oh no dont get me wrong im definitely interested in their other records. that one is just the quintissential one according to the accounts of smiths listeners so due to it being the most popularized, i picked that one first.

I have to say, Vicar In A Tutu is the worst song they ever put their name to.. and Frankly Mr Shankly isn't much better. It is a good album though in general. Some great songs on there. Cemetery Gates and the singles from it are awesome

[SanePsychotic]

I can't believe that Ryan's just now getting into the Smiths. Getting into them is almost a magical thing.

Sadly, I've only listened to The Queen Is Dead and Louder Than Bombs. Hopefully I can get my hands on Meat Is Murder sometime soon as it's rapidly becoming Smiths season.

[Paulb-182]

If I was honestly giving someone advice on what to hear from them who are just starting out I'd say get The Sound of The Smiths.. It pretty much has everything you'd ever want to hear from them on.. I know it's a best of, but it's so comprehensive it's untrue.

[boxingwithstars]

i don't have enough Morrissey in my collection... what are his best solo albums?

[Kyle Huntington]

i don't have enough Morrissey in my collection... what are his best solo albums?
I really enjoy Viva Hate, Vauxhall & I and Years Of Refusal.

[StreetSpirit76]

i don't have enough Morrissey in my collection... what are his best solo albums?
Viva Hate, Vauxhall and I, and Bona Drag. If you're a Smiths fan I think you'll dig Viva Hate, as it's not too far removed from their sound and some of the lyrical content even deals with the breakup. Vauxhall is my personal favorite but it's much sparser and largely ballad driven. Bona Drag meanwhile is a collection of songs that were for the most part previously unreleased on any album, and in my opinion it's one of his strongest releases. Any of the three would be a great start, but I'd probably suggest Viva Hate.

[ThisIsNotDan]

the queen is dead, of course!

I actually finally started to listen to The Smiths last month too. also chose this album. now I can say that I see how badly Brand New ripped them off on Untitled Demo #2.

and in terms of what I've heard I'd say The Queen Is Dead > S/T > Strangeways > Meat Is Murder. I dunno Meat Is Murder clicked with me the least even though its supposedly their seminal work

[Kyle Huntington]

i don't have enough Morrissey in my collection... what are his best solo albums?

Viva Hate, Vauxhall and I, and Bona Drag are my favorites. If you're a Smiths fan I think you'll dig Viva Hate, as it's not too far removed from their sound and some of the lyrical content even deals with the breakup. Vauxhall is my personal favorite but it's much sparser and largely ballad driven. Bona Drag meanwhile is a collection of songs that were for the most part previously unreleased on any album, and in my opinion it's one of his strongest releases. Any of the three would be a great start, but I'd probably suggest Viva Hate.

I didn't include Bona Drag because of the fact it was a compilation of sorts, but definitely agree with this and recommend it.

[Paulb-182]

I actually finally started to listen to The Smiths last month too. also chose this album. now I can say that I see how badly Brand New ripped them off on Untitled Demo #2.

and in terms of what I've heard I'd say The Queen Is Dead > S/T > Strangeways > Meat Is Murder. I dunno Meat Is Murder clicked with me the least even though its supposedly their seminal work

I fucking hate that song.. I wouldn't say it sounds anything like The Smiths as such though, all but the fact he puts on that stupid accent.

Do check out their other stuff, a lot of their B-Sides/one off singles are better than album tracks

[fadedmemories]

You're crazy
Why would you say that? I'm won't act like I'm an expert on 80s pop culture, but I've been listening to a lot of British bands from that era these past three months, and I really can't find any other band that can convince me that they're better than The Smiths. I like The Smiths' S/T (my least favorite from them) more than The Cure's Disintegration (my favorite 80's record from any band other than The Smiths).
I actually finally started to listen to The Smiths last month too. also chose this album. now I can say that I see how badly Brand New ripped them off on Untitled Demo #2.

The Queen is Dead is also my first Smiths record, and my current favorite. Just wondering why a lot of people choose to listen to this album first?

[Paulb-182]

Why would you say that? I'm won't act like I'm an expert on 80s pop culture, but I've been listening to a lot of British bands from that era these past three months, and I really can't find any other band that can convince me that they're better than The Smiths. I like The Smiths' S/T (my least favorite from them) more than The Cure's Disintegration (my favorite 80's record from any band other than The Smiths).

I've already said why. I've always found a few other 80's bands better than them, I don't claim to know a lot about 80's music, because I don't really like it on a whole, but of the few bands I do enjoy, The Smiths aren't the best. I've also explained that while I enjoy The Smiths a fair amount three quarters of the time, they can also be pretty damn cringeworthy the other. Oh and I also think Disintegration is The Cure's best.

[fadedmemories]

I've already said why. I've always found a few other 80's bands better than them, I don't claim to know a lot about 80's music, because I don't really like it on a whole, but of the few bands I do enjoy, The Smiths aren't the best. I've also explained that while I enjoy The Smiths a fair amount three quarters of the time, they can also be pretty damn cringeworthy the other. Oh and I also think Disintegration is The Cure's best.
Haha sorry dude, I didn't bother to read the posts after the one I quoted.

Disintegration is really good. So is Pornography.

[erinfxs]

The Queen is Dead is also my first Smiths record, and my current favorite. Just wondering why a lot of people choose to listen to this album first?

Possibly my favourite record of all time? Not sure, but I love it.

And I think maybe because it has so many fan-favourites and hits on the album e.g. Frankly Mr Shankly, Bigmouth Strikes Again, There Is A Light That Never Goes Out...

[TachyonEvan]

The Queen Is Dead is perfect.

[Cuddleworthy]

And when I'm lying in my bed
I think about life
and I think about death
and neither one particularly appeals to me

[Kyle Huntington]

I was happy in the haze of a drunken hour,
but heaven knows I'm miserable now.
I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
and heaven knows I'm miserable now...

...In my life,
why do I smile
at people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?

[theguy77]

I actually finally started to listen to The Smiths last month too. also chose this album. now I can say that I see how badly Brand New ripped them off on Untitled Demo #2.

and in terms of what I've heard I'd say The Queen Is Dead > S/T > Strangeways > Meat Is Murder. I dunno Meat Is Murder clicked with me the least even though its supposedly their seminal work

hahaha omg so true i drew connections immediately. untitled 2 is still a great song though.

[hockeyguitar99]

Probably my favorite band of all time.

The Queen is Dead is probably my favorite album of all time as well.

[hockeyguitar99]

Not that I care for much music of the 80's, but I always thought The Cure, U2 and Jesus and Mary Chain had better output in the 80's than The Smiths.

Edit: I also am a big fan of Doolittle by Pixies, although don't think one album makes them better than The Smiths

Pixies did not just have one good album.

[SpyKi]

I have to say, Vicar In A Tutu is the worst song they ever put their name to.. and Frankly Mr Shankly isn't much better. It is a good album though in general. Some great songs on there. Cemetery Gates and the singles from it are awesome
I love Vicar in a Tutu, one of my favourites on TQID. I love FMS too. Some Girls is my least favourite from that album. The self titled is my favourite album of theirs.

[TachyonEvan]

I'll say right now, Johnny Marr is a difficult guitarist to copy.

[Circa1628]

i don't have enough Morrissey in my collection... what are his best solo albums?

Some of his older ones like Bona Drag and Viva Hate are classics, but a couple of his newer ones are actually pretty damn good like Years of Refusal and You Are The Quarry

[Circa1628]

Great, now I am listening to all Smiths/Morrissey on shuffle. Not that it's a bad thing

[iam_theculprit]

I love The Smiths, but I can't get into Morrissey's solo stuff really. When I listen to it it just makes me want to listen to The Smiths so I do that.

[Circa1628]

Let's all agree by the way that "Asleep" is the best Smiths song

[Kyle Huntington]

Let's all agree by the way that "Asleep" is the best Smiths song
No.

[Paulb-182]

Pixies did not just have one good album.

It's the only one I consider of a greater worth than The Smiths ones.

[SanePsychotic]

Let's all agree by the way that "Asleep" is the best Smiths song

It's not, though it's a good song to start with.

[fadedmemories]

I'll say right now, Johnny Marr is a difficult guitarist to copy.
A true innovator of the instrument.

[megajon]

The sad thing about this thread is in 15 years time there will be one much like this for Brand New on absolutecrunk.net

[Kyle Huntington]

It's not, though it's a good song to start with.
I don't think so, doesn't really display a "typical" Smiths sound, so not the best to start with as well as not being the best track over all. Is great, mind.

[drewinseries]

I love The Smiths, but I can't get into Morrissey's solo stuff really. When I listen to it it just makes me want to listen to The Smiths so I do that.

i was that way at first, but it totally grew on me. years of refusal is a really good album

[fadedmemories]

The sad thing about this thread is in 15 years time there will be one much like this for Brand New on absolutecrunk.net
Hahahaha

Funny, but true

[fadedmemories]

By the way, listening to The Queen Is Dead at the moment :-)

[Kyle Huntington]

The sad thing about this thread is in 15 years time there will be one much like this for Brand New on absolutecrunk.net
Probably but I can't help but find some blasphemy in that sentence, The Smiths and Brand New are on completely different levels. I'd hope those that appreciate both bands realise that, which I'm sure most do.

[TachyonEvan]

I feel like there are definitely Brand New fans out there on this website who don't realize that.

[Circa1628]

It's not, though it's a good song to start with.
Kind of a weird way to put it... I have listened to them since I was 17, I'm not new to the Smiths

[11:11]

I feel like there are definitely Brand New fans out there on this website who don't realize that.
Haha some people listening to Mixtape are probably saying "Lulz, criticizing the Smiths? Morrissey? Who the fuck are they lulzzzzzzzz".

[SanePsychotic]

I don't think so, doesn't really display a "typical" Smiths sound, so not the best to start with as well as not being the best track over all. Is great, mind.

I understand your point, but I still think it's a decent song to start with. Really, any Smiths song is (to me) a good song to start with.

[SanePsychotic]

Kind of a weird way to put it... I have listened to them since I was 17, I'm not new to the Smiths

I said that it was good to start with because it was the first Smiths song I ever heard. Maybe I should have clarified the context.

[Kyle Huntington]

I understand your point, but I still think it's a decent song to start with. Really, any Smiths song is (to me) a good song to start with.
Well yeah, not trying to start a weird pointless debate. Just in the context of what you said "Asleep" wouldn't be my choice of song by The Smiths to start someone on nor would "any song". That being said, I'm not sure what I'd pick, probably "This Charming Man" or one of the singles.

[SanePsychotic]

Well yeah, not trying to start a weird pointless debate. Just in the context of what you said "Asleep" wouldn't be my choice of song by The Smiths to start someone on nor would "any song". That being said, I'm not sure what I'd pick, probably "This Charming Man" or one of the singles.

Good pick. I'm not trying to start a weird argument or anything either, I'm just bored. To me "Asleep" is an okay song to start with, probably because that's how I got into the band.

[Kyle Huntington]

Good pick. I'm not trying to start a weird argument or anything either, I'm just bored. To me "Asleep" is an okay song to start with, probably because that's how I got into the band.
Fair one.

[boxingwithstars]

Some of his older ones like Bona Drag and Viva Hate are classics, but a couple of his newer ones are actually pretty damn good like Years of Refusal and You Are The Quarry

Viva Hate, Vauxhall and I, and Bona Drag. If you're a Smiths fan I think you'll dig Viva Hate, as it's not too far removed from their sound and some of the lyrical content even deals with the breakup. Vauxhall is my personal favorite but it's much sparser and largely ballad driven. Bona Drag meanwhile is a collection of songs that were for the most part previously unreleased on any album, and in my opinion it's one of his strongest releases. Any of the three would be a great start, but I'd probably suggest Viva Hate.

I really enjoy Viva Hate, Vauxhall & I and Years Of Refusal.

thanks for the recs, the only album i have is Years Of Refusal but i love it. i will be sure to check out some of his earlier albums.

[Dr. Acula]

Viva Hate. You must have that album.

[Circa1628]

I said that it was good to start with because it was the first Smiths song I ever heard. Maybe I should have clarified the context.
It's all good. It's actually the first one I heard also

[fadedmemories]

I feel like there are definitely Brand New fans out there on this website who don't realize that.
See: Everyone in the Brand New thread ;-)

[tpnations]

Does these guys have a particular album that is darker and more brooding, maybe even downright depressing, than their others?

[ThemChains]

The Queen Is Dead has I Know It's Over...possibly one of the most depressing songs ever.

[Circa1628]

The Queen Is Dead has I Know It's Over...possibly one of the most depressing songs ever.
"Asleep" gives it a good contender

[ThemChains]

Well, if you see The Smiths as tongue in cheek, none of their songs are actually depressing.

[Circa1628]

this is true

[tpnations]

Well, if you see The Smiths as tongue in cheek, none of their songs are actually depressing.

Just trying to get my foot in the door. Already very late to the party.

[T-bag]

Heard a song from them once. It was average. It wasn't punk.

[Kyle Huntington]

Heard a song from them once. It was average. It wasn't punk.
Who claimed that they were?

[KercoCosa]

Well, if you see The Smiths as tongue in cheek, none of their songs are actually depressing.

Agree'd. Though I cant stand You know it's over, because the chorus is a horrible reflection on life, especially when your in a bad mood anyway

[T-bag]

Who claimed that they were?

This site does. It's not punk.

[Kyle Huntington]

This site does. It's not punk.
Tut.

[Cuddleworthy]

lol

[maxvsmaradona]

Well, if you see The Smiths as tongue in cheek, none of their songs are actually depressing.

I don't know... Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want is kinda depressing. So is How Soon Is Now. But that's just my opinion.

This site does. It's not punk.

Uh... where does it say that The Smiths are punk?

[Eich696]

Listened to the Smiths earlier this year and just couldnt get into them. Then I tried listening to them again a couple weeks ago and have been hooked ever since.

[T-bag]

I don't know... Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want is kinda depressing. So is How Soon Is Now. But that's just my opinion.



Uh... where does it say that The Smiths are punk?

The forum is called absolute punk. If it is not punk. It shouldn't be here. The smiths are not punk.

[maxvsmaradona]

The forum is called absolute punk. If it is not punk. It shouldn't be here. The smiths are not punk.

The Smiths helped influence many different punk, pop punk, and indie bands. If you really don't like that AbsolutePunk honors a great band, then I suggest you get the fuck out.

[T-bag]

Samuel L Jackson is punk.The smiths are not punk. Pop Is not punk.You are not punk. If it is not punk,i suggest it gets the fuck out.

[Kyle Huntington]

:yawn:

[ThemChains]

I don't know... Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want is kinda depressing. So is How Soon Is Now. But that's just my opinion.



Uh... where does it say that The Smiths are punk?
I would say that those two songs are (mostly Please Please Please) as How Soon Is Now? is a boring song. But those songs may be the exception to the rule.

[Kyle Huntington]

I love How Soon Is Now, that guitar plus the lyrics make it one of my Top Ten Smiths songs probably.

[T-bag]

Nah wasn't a fan of it. Found it somewhat bland compared to the early stuff. Particularly the black metal album they recorded earlier in their career.

[ThemChains]

Fuck this guy.

[kearn1tm]

Fuck this guy.

You can't make me!

[ThemChains]

You can't make me!
Would I have to try that hard?

[maxvsmaradona]

I would say that those two songs are (mostly Please Please Please) as How Soon Is Now? is a boring song. But those songs may be the exception to the rule.

How Soon Is JNow does lag on, but it's amazing.

I am human, and I need to be loved. Just like everybody else does.

[RushAndAPush]

This site does. It's not punk.The music may not be punk. The thing is Morrissey's ideals were very punk.

[kearn1tm]

boosh

[Cuddleworthy]

boss edgy

[IntoTheSun]

:eyebrow: